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Blast Fantasto posted:It's not like they just announced the monthlong exclusivity right now. This was publicized before the game's release. It is Microsoft blowing through money trying to drive Sony's market share down. If in a year their market share relative to Microsoft's has decreased, this will be considered a success. If it has not, it will be used as rationale for spending more money to do more of the same thing (or close to it).
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| # ? May 4, 2012 16:30 |
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Kilroy posted:This might be Microsoft's reasoning but it's loving stupid. Anyone defending it as a solid business decision is also loving stupid. You're talking about a small fraction of people (who hear about it in time if at all), who also own two consoles, which is itself a small fraction of the console market. Who cares. It gets more money to developers to develop more for that game, ostensibly. You can bet Zenimax didn't eat that money and Bethesda saw some of it. You can also bet that any DLC will eventually hit every platform. This is a win-win for all gamers, because it incentivizes continued support of the game. The only people that should be upset about this sort of poo poo are the ADHD super impatient types that the corporate people assume all of us are, and those people probably stopped playing this game over a month ago, probably.
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| # ? May 4, 2012 16:52 |
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Junkenstein posted:It was announced before the game was released, so it probably did sway people with both consoles... Thank you for correcting me. All I could find were articles from the DLC announcement acting like it was a surprise. Still sucks, but what can you do?
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Fuzz posted:Who cares. It gets more money to developers to develop more for that game, ostensibly. You can justify any business proposal, no matter how unethical or illegal, with these words. Do not utter these words unironically.
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| # ? May 7, 2012 11:10 |
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Broken Knees Club posted:You can justify any business proposal, no matter how unethical or illegal, with these words. Do not utter these words unironically. The emphasis to my point was the one month lag, which is nothing at all. If you can't patiently wait another month after waiting >6 for the thing in the first place, you've got problems. I say that unironically. This is not some Rockstar game that may or may not (RDR) come out on PC sometime in the next 3 years... it's a month. There is very little reason to get butthurt, yet I consistently see people lose their poo poo over the wait. Hell, I regularly see posts from people in game threads talking about how they ate some extra cost at the last minute or even ended up paying >10 bucks extra just to get a game on release day or even just 1 day early, which I really do not comprehend and have always been confused by. I chalk it up to impatience, boredom, and poor impulse control, but that's a way off topic discussion. Point is, 1 month exclusivity is a minor hindrance, and it does objectively get the studio more money for literally zero extra work at a minimal cost to end user satisfaction. And yeah, I am saying that unironically.
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| # ? May 7, 2012 14:06 |
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Fuzz posted:The only people that should be upset about this sort of poo poo are the ADHD super impatient types that the corporate people assume all of us are, and those people probably stopped playing this game over a month ago, probably. Honestly I think it's a pretty lovely move, and I play on an Xbox so I'm not even one of the people who has to wait a month. It's just kind of a crappy way to treat their customers on other platforms.
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| # ? May 7, 2012 14:10 |
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Fuzz posted:The emphasis to my point was the one month lag, which is nothing at all. If you can't patiently wait another month after waiting >6 for the thing in the first place, you've got problems. I say that unironically. This is not some Rockstar game that may or may not (RDR) come out on PC sometime in the next 3 years... it's a month. There is very little reason to get butthurt, yet I consistently see people lose their poo poo over the wait. Hell, I regularly see posts from people in game threads talking about how they ate some extra cost at the last minute or even ended up paying >10 bucks extra just to get a game on release day or even just 1 day early, which I really do not comprehend and have always been confused by. I chalk it up to impatience, boredom, and poor impulse control, but that's a way off topic discussion. Microsoft is stupid for offering the money in the first place. Zenimax is not stupid for taking it, as where Microsoft is giving up a lot of cash for virtually nothing, Zenimax is receiving a lot of cash for virtually nothing. It's greedy and shows a slight contempt for their customers, but it's still a good business decision.
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| # ? May 7, 2012 15:24 |
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Kilroy posted:Microsoft is stupid for offering the money in the first place. Zenimax is not stupid for taking it, as where Microsoft is giving up a lot of cash for virtually nothing, Zenimax is receiving a lot of cash for virtually nothing. I look at it this way: Zenimax is receiving a lot of cash for 360 players to be beta testers. 
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Hopefully, Dawnguard is just a ruse, and the new DLC is about going to Elsewehre with your new Khajiit buddies to help the king and his horrible addiction to skooma. Featuring all new features like!: -New skooma properties. Instead of just giving you endurance, it will now work like a real drug. Take too much and you'll die! Behold the Empires failure to stop the war on the cat people and their drugs! -Crazy cat people desert poo poo. Watch as adventurers get eaten by giant sandworms and oh gently caress, I'm out of Skooma -The sky is meltinggggg
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| # ? May 7, 2012 21:52 |
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God I fucking love Diablo 3 gold, it even paid for this shitty title
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Pon de Bundy posted:Hopefully, Dawnguard is just a ruse, and the new DLC is about going to Elsewehre with your new Khajiit buddies to help the king and his horrible addiction to skooma. Featuring all new features like!: Sounds like a perfect opportunity to post the Khajiit Theme again. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pgv2GL-BHoI
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Sky Shadowing posted:I look at it this way: Zenimax is receiving a lot of cash for 360 players to be beta testers. Which is in its own way really terrible. PC owners make way better beta testers with their ability to patch games, DLC and varied hardware and software. Probably harder to debug, but that means fewer surprises later on, honestly. Pure disdain for customers all around, really.
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| # ? May 8, 2012 07:06 |
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Be nice to the PS3 players, waiting a month for DLC has been the LEAST of their problems. (lol)
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| # ? May 8, 2012 16:48 |
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Seriously. I know some poor fools who still buy Bethesda games on the PS3 because it is their only choice. And the tears, they won't stop. 
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| # ? May 8, 2012 16:51 |
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Kilroy posted:Microsoft is stupid for offering the money in the first place. Zenimax is not stupid for taking it, as where Microsoft is giving up a lot of cash for virtually nothing, I feel like since we don't know if it was $10,000 or a million or anywhere in between we can't really make statements like this. Microsoft has some crazy high profit margins and I'm sure a lot of cash to eke out a slightest tenth of a percent of market-share is worth it to them. Just saying. You gotta think about the future too, are there enough people butthurt about this that when TES6 comes out those people are going to get it for xbox next time?
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| # ? May 8, 2012 20:30 |
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I would laugh my balls off if the PC version of the DLC somehow leaks a month early when the 360 one is released.
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| # ? May 9, 2012 14:41 |
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Bohemian Nights posted:I would laugh my balls off if the PC version of the DLC somehow leaks a month early when the 360 one is released.
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| # ? May 9, 2012 17:20 |
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Slugworth posted:If past DLC is any indication, people will just port the 360 version to PC same day I always wondered if that would work.
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| # ? May 9, 2012 19:31 |
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I hope one of the DLC's involve Orsinium or somewhere near there. It would be interesting to see what the Orc's main stronghold looks(looked?) like. That and I would love to be surrounded by constantly yawning Orcs. Seriously, why do they yawn so drat much?
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Sky Shadowing posted:I do feel sorry for PS3 gamers especially. Not only does their Skyrim not perform correctly, they get double shafted by having to watch Xbox gamers get DLC 30 days before the rest of us. It was incredibly difficult to put in all those hours only to have this game (and Fallout 3, and New Vegas) become a laggy, freezing, unplayable mess. I'm glad I am playing it (again) on a 360 now. Mordaedil posted:Bethesda has been worse on DLC. An announcement basically saying nothing is sort of exciting in that aspect. I never had any problems with PS3's Oblivion other than the lack of DLC that the 360 got. Like I said, those other games though...they were a big reason why I dumped my PS3 and got an Xbox. I waited my whole life for a stress-relieving, normal-life-escaping experience like Skyrim, I'd rather play it NOT shuddering and freezing. War Bunny fucked around with this message at May 11, 2012 around 10:35 |
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There are other good games on the PS3 though.  I personally stick with a Wii, PS3 and PC. Mordaedil fucked around with this message at May 11, 2012 around 11:11 |
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War Bunny posted:I never had any problems with PS3's Oblivion other than the lack of DLC that the 360 got. I beg to differ. Nothing was quite as frustrating as not being able to cure vampirism on the PS3 GOTY edition. Primarily a 360 user now.
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| # ? May 11, 2012 11:09 |
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A British Nerd posted:I beg to differ. Nothing was quite as frustrating as not being able to cure vampirism on the PS3 GOTY edition. Primarily a 360 user now. You never buy the GotY edition of a Bethesda game on PS3. They literally just toss the 360 version on a disc and don't bother doing anything more. Laziest poo poo ever.
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I swear PS3 Oblivion had a bigger draw distance or nicer average framerate or something else to compensate for it coming out a year late.
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| # ? May 11, 2012 11:46 |
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Man, I got the Creation Kit. The CREATION. KIT. I can make DLC for my own drat self, and fight Giygas, Radagast and I'm pretty sure that I put a weird Claude Frollo wannabe wizard in a gigantic spire. I also live in a floating Dwemer time-bubble where I build tiny spider bots to skitter and play with and their clanking is oh so cute. Regardless of THAT particular insanity I inflict on Tamriel, Dawnguard looks like it might be a cool piece. Looking forward to more information on the exact content, and whether I'll have more decor to throw about in my Omniglot Room.
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| # ? May 12, 2012 12:38 |
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How about a DLC 3000 years in the future, where you must protect the new emperor, Cyber Septim, from assassination.
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greatn posted:How about a DLC 3000 years in the future, where you must protect the new emperor, Cyber Septim, from assassination. Divine Cybermancy is the only  game you'll ever need.
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greatn posted:How about a DLC 3000 years in the future, where you must protect the new emperor, Cyber Septim, from assassination. Would you be protecting them from the Mythic Nova?
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Isn't there some Vivec lore written from several thousand years into the future? Put it in that era. E; Here we go. Makes perfect sense. http://elderscrolls.blogspot.com/20...-fifth-era.html
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I know you guys are joking but probably some Bethsoft devs read this forum and you really shouldn't risk giving them any ideas so I'd appreciate it if y'all knocked it off. Orsinium or bust!
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Earwicker posted:Orsinium or bust! You sir are a proper Orc, like myself. Screw these dorky elves, or vampires, or whatever. Orsinium gently caress yeah! I bet it has a massive statue of Malacath, a bunch of skulls for furniture, and sells nothing but gigantic hammers and axes.
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Gonkish posted:You sir are a proper Orc, like myself. Screw these dorky elves, or vampires, or whatever. Orsinium gently caress yeah! I bet it has a massive statue of Malacath, a bunch of skulls for furniture, and sells nothing but gigantic hammers and axes. And cookbooks. Don't forget cookbooks.
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Fuzz posted:And cookbooks. Don't forget cookbooks. Cookbooks about how best to cook horses. (Protip: DON'T. YOU'RE AN ORC. EAT THE HORSE LIVE.)
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Earwicker posted:I know you guys are joking but probably some Bethsoft devs read this forum and you really shouldn't risk giving them any ideas so I'd appreciate it if y'all knocked it off. They were probably the ones who instigated the whole Todd Howard hate. Perfect revenge at your boss!
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Mordaedil posted:They were probably the ones who instigated the whole Todd Howard hate. Perfect revenge at your boss! I think Todd Howard instigated the Todd Howard hate.
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| # ? May 19, 2012 02:31 |
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Todd Howard owns sorry.
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I will always respect Todd Howard for admitting, on camera, that the ending of Fallout 3 was a mess and needed to be fixed. Guys got balls saying that on record.
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Fuzz posted:You never buy the GotY edition of a Bethesda game on PS3. They literally just toss the 360 version on a disc and don't bother doing anything more. Laziest poo poo ever. It makes sense to me since on PSN, they NEVER drop the cost of DLC. Operation Anchorage for Fallout 3 is still $10, last I looked.
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Dr.Smasher posted:It makes sense to me since on PSN, they NEVER drop the cost of DLC. Operation Anchorage for Fallout 3 is still $10, last I looked. I'd rather have a game that's optimized for my system than a lazy port of the alternate system's version, call me crazy. The DLC for FO3 was not worth the lovely performance of grabbing the GotY to save a few bucks.
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Fuzz posted:I'd rather have a game that's optimized for my system than a lazy port of the alternate system's version, call me crazy. The DLC for FO3 was not worth the lovely performance of grabbing the GotY to save a few bucks. I'm happy enough with a PS3 and have no desire or financial capacity to upgrade my computer to play current games. In other words, gently caress it.
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Dr.Smasher posted:I'm happy enough with a PS3 and have no desire or financial capacity to upgrade my computer to play current games. In other words, gently caress it. Again, you are missing the point. There are 2 versions of FO3 on PS3... 1- The original release, which was optimized for hte PS3, ran great, looked great, and was all around pretty solid aside from the inherent bugs to the game that all versions of it had. This is the best version you can get on the PS3, and it's pretty drat good. 2- The GotY version, which was a hasty slap-dash port of the 360 GotY edition. They did this for Oblivion, too. The reason is that the 360 version is built around DirectX which isn't actually very different from the PC version and didn't require any special coding or a completely different engine setup like the PS3 version does. Making a GotY of the PS3 version would have been a whole lot of extra work, so they just ported the 360 version to the PS3 and it sucks rear end, runs like poo poo, looks bad, and overall is just a pathetic piece of software. tl;dr: Sell your GotY and get the regular version. That's how you need to play Bethesda games if you own a PS3. Skyrim will most likely be no different.
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