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showbiz_liz posted:I was like "oh I should try to find some clips of Connor from Angel," so I went and looked at the Wikipedia plot summaries to remind myself which episodes he was in, and, christ almighty that was a weird show, wasn't it? Yep there was an episode that had Angel turn into a puppet.
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bobkatt013 posted:Yep there was an episode that had Angel turn into a puppet. I actually watched it while it was on the air, but jumping back into season three and having forgotten all of the context, it is WAY weirder than I remembered. Aaaanyways, I was thinking about Don's fiancee today (having only finished watching last night, so I'm sure this has all been discussed already, but whatevs). I kind of think season 4 was a lot of Don being sick of being with uber-dependent women and looking for someone who could take charge somehow. I mean his first sex scene of the season was demanding that a woman slap him in the face... so then there was Faye, who could run her own poo poo, and then there was Megan, who could run HIS poo poo. Not just the 'good with kids' thing, but the way he got her to control his drinking, stuff like that. I think he's looking for a mom for himself.
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showbiz_liz posted:I actually watched it while it was on the air, but jumping back into season three and having forgotten all of the context, it is WAY weirder than I remembered. Maybe, but how much of that is Megan and how much is Don? I mean, I don't think Megan controlled Don's drinking as much as Don allowed Megan to control his drinking. There is a difference. He could have said "stop me at three" to anybody...it was his choice to ask for help there.
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showbiz_liz posted:I was like "oh I should try to find some clips of Connor from Angel," so I went and looked at the Wikipedia plot summaries to remind myself which episodes he was in, and, christ almighty that was a weird show, wasn't it?
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More awesomely creepy Pete - "Have you ever been hunting?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-p6KC0Yd6TY Pilli fucked around with this message at Mar 16, 2012 around 04:03 |
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Stark posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NByKpaX7MFw I love that line. "Sterling Cooper has more failed artists and intellectuals than the Third Reich." Foreshadowing the irrelevance of Kinsey? Or just lamenting the hiring practices? Actually... as head of creative, wouldn't he have hiring and firing power over the writers and artists? But then, I could totally see him neglecting those duties because it bored him.
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Kartheiser somehow stopped being Connor for me in Season 2 or so and is now forever Pete Campbell. He rose above the Whedon-y tripe and went on to do great things, like the Chip n' Dip.bobkatt013 posted:Yep there was an episode that had Angel turn into a puppet. That was also the best episode of Angel aside from The Cautionary Tale of Numero Cinco.
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I think Cambell is the best character for me because he really feels like the only actor there who BELONGS in that time period. Every other actor I can tell is trying desperately to look like they belong in the 60's, but for some reason, the actor playing Campbell to me looks like they plucked him straight out of the 60's, sent him packing in a time machine to present day, and gave him a job.
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Vanderdeath posted:Kartheiser somehow stopped being Connor for me in Season 2 or so and is now forever Pete Campbell. He rose above the Whedon-y tripe and went on to do great things, like the Chip n' Dip. He really did and watching Angel is weird now since I expect him to be awesome like Pete Campbell instead of Connor.
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I'm actually a big fan of Angel. In fact, I'm currently rewatching it on Netflix due to lack of anything else new to watch, but hey, different strokes. Anyway: I think I follow the same formula as others. I hated Campbell at the beginning, but he grew on me. I think part of it has to do when he stops treating his wife like poo poo. I know men treating women as property is kind of "the thing" in the 60's, but it also seemed like they wanted to portray Campbell as kind of the antagonist of the show. He tries to blackmail Don, he's always angsty about being passed over, and he treats his wife terribly. But he seems to come around as he and Don start to respect each other more, and he starts showing his wife a little more respect and dignity, he grows on ya. I still miss Paul, personally.
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Coleman posted:But he seems to come around as he and Don start to respect each other more, and he starts showing his wife a little more respect and dignity, he grows on ya. Until Pete meets his neighbor's German au pair.
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I just realized that Trudy on Mad Men and Annie on Community are played by the same actress. Yes, I feel quite at home living under this rock.
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Stark posted:Until Pete meets his neighbor's German au pair. But, again, I appear to be crazy and liked him as Connor too. But alas.
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Coleman posted:In fairness, if we don't hold Don's serial womanizing against him, you can't hold it against Pete too much. He still treats Trudy a lot better, doesn't snap at her as often, doesn't treat her like poo poo for no reason, etc. Guys in the 60s like getting play on the side, but Pete handles himself so much better than he did in the first season, so I think he's a lot more enjoyable to watch. YA remember when he said that he never want to be away from her again? Also I hated Connor in season 3 and 4. In 5 he was pretty great.
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I've been a fan of Mad Men since it started, I'm a student of American History and this period is probably my favorite. If you want to read an incredibly engaging tome about the period, check out Nixonland by Rick Pearlstein, it will fill in a lot of the societal blanks that the show brilliantly fades to the background. Does anyone have any guesses on when the new season takes place? Given that last season ended around October '65, and considering the layover between seasons, I'd guess it picks up in Spring of '67. In the intervening time America has really turned on it's head. The antiwar movement is in full swing, with Dr. King finally coming out in support of the movement. The civil rights movement has taken a radical turn, as riots have happened in Detroit, Cleveland, and Newark, and new leaders like Stokely Carmicheal and Huey Newton are preaching a message of militance over non-violence. Meanwhile LSD and hippie culture have stormed mainstream America, and Sgt. Peppers, Are You Experienced, and a slew of other earth shattering rock albums will be released. Point is historically we are getting to "The Sixties" as we know them in popular culture, and I can't wait! Also, Don on acid? It could happen.
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Coleman posted:I'm actually a big fan of Angel. In fact, I'm currently rewatching it on Netflix due to lack of anything else new to watch, but hey, different strokes. I think Pete is forced by the expectations of his upbringing and society to be a certain way, and he rebels against it. Not necessarily because he's deep down a really nice guy intentionally, or he's trying to better himself...he's just on a kind of slow drift towards being progressive. If you asked him if he was a progressive he's deny it up and down, but he's moving in that direction. Though not without his flaws.
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Astroman posted:I think Pete is forced by the expectations of his upbringing and society to be a certain way, and he rebels against it. Not necessarily because he's deep down a really nice guy intentionally, or he's trying to better himself...he's just on a kind of slow drift towards being progressive. If you asked him if he was a progressive he's deny it up and down, but he's moving in that direction. Though not without his flaws. It also helped to see how lovely his family is.
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Yea, I was really happy when his dad died. What a shithead
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adjective_noun posted:Does anyone have any guesses on when the new season takes place? Given that last season ended around October '65, and considering the layover between seasons, I'd guess it picks up in Spring of '67. Do we know that there will be a time jump at all? That would mean skipping over everyone's reaction to Joan's pregnancy, Don's wedding, etc., plus a whole year of escalation in Vietnam. Not saying they WON'T skip a year, but do we actually know if they will?
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showbiz_liz posted:Do we know that there will be a time jump at all? That would mean skipping over everyone's reaction to Joan's pregnancy, Don's wedding, etc., plus a whole year of escalation in Vietnam. Not saying they WON'T skip a year, but do we actually know if they will? I don't know if they will, but I really hope they do. I've always liked that Mad Men has been willing to skip fairly long periods of time. It's a show that is mainly about people's personal struggles, and I don't think there is much to gain by showing Don & Megan being happy newlyweds. Although, pregnant Joan might be interesting, depending on where her husband is.
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On non pete talk. I am rewatching the series to get ready for the new season, and I am at the episode when Duck abandons his dog. Before that he seemed like a bit if a dick but after that he became completely unlikable.
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For the Pete fans.. pulled from my 4th grade yearbook  
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I miss Hildy. Please come back Hildy. 
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What episode is the thread title from
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The season four finale, Tomorrowland, when Henry Francis yells at Betty for firing Carla.
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Big Piece O poo poo posted:I miss Hildy. I miss Miss Blankenship.  "YOUR DAUGHTER'S PSYCHIATRIST HAS CALLED!!"
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Pilli posted:I miss Miss Blankenship. *5 seconds later* BZZZZZZZZ "Mr. Campbell to see you."
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Big Piece O poo poo posted:I miss Hildy. Having seen Supernatural before Mad Men, it was quite a pleasant surprise to see Julie McNiven done up all 60s secretary style 
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Pilli posted:I miss Miss Blankenship. "If I wanted to see two negroes fight, I'd throw a dollar bill out my window."
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manero posted:For the Pete fans.. pulled from my 4th grade yearbook Which school did he go to? Once I found out he was from the Twin Cities, I liked him more 
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Glenn is so goddamn creepy. He is a future serial killer. Also I found the first moment when you saw how awesome Pete is. When he told his mother the truth about her finances.
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bobkatt013 posted:Glenn is so goddamn creepy. He is a future serial killer. Also I found the first moment when you saw how awesome Pete is. When he told his mother the truth about her finances. I like a bit before that, when his dad says he thinks it "just isn't a good idea" to give them money for an apartment, and Pete is all:  You thought it was a good idea to bail out Bud when he hit that girl on her bike.
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Aatrek posted:The season four finale, Tomorrowland, when Henry Francis yells at Betty for firing Carla. Completely forgot she did this. I hate Betty so much. Carla was the only good things those kids had.
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Fists Up posted:Completely forgot she did this. I hate Betty so much. Carla was the only good things those kids had. Don is an okay father.
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My favorite thing about Pete is that he doesn't know how to drive
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How can you not love Pete immediately after the Chip n Dip incident? I love when that dude is macking on the return lady at the store and Pete's just like "He's got the clap, you know!"
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Fists Up posted:I hate Betty so much. S3 kind of drove me mad for all the Betties standing there, doing nothing, being miserable, taking air time away from the agency's happenings. I only forgive Matt for that because he picked a good Betty actress to play Betty. But I still want an extended behind-the-scene video about January and Kiernan playing those awful Betty/Sally scenes. I want to believe they're buddies IRL to be able to play out those scenes as good as they did. 
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Pilli posted:S3 kind of drove me mad for all the Betties standing there, doing nothing, being miserable, taking air time away from the agency's happenings. Apparently January Jones scares the children.
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bobkatt013 posted:Apparently January Jones scares the children. She apparently scared one iteration of the many Bobbies. I'm interested in any other info you might have on the topic because I have none.
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Pilli posted:She apparently scared one iteration of the many Bobbies. I'm interested in any other info you might have on the topic because I have none. That is all I heard.
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