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Y Kant Ozma Post posted:Because it seems like something that would be an issue for her with good reason. Mom seemed very surprised when Abe mentioned that he loves it when Peggy makes ham, remember? She knows about shiksha appeal.
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I must be the only one who thought Don and Megan were going to find his secretary sleeping in his office when they went there to bang after saving the Heinz account.
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| # ? Apr 30, 2012 05:30 |
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Poor Sally. No person should have to see that.
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| # ? Apr 30, 2012 06:21 |
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AWWNAW posted:I must be the only one who thought Don and Megan were going to find his secretary sleeping in his office when they went there to bang after saving the Heinz account. you're not the only one
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| # ? Apr 30, 2012 06:35 |
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EvilCornbread posted:Yep, that was exactly how I read that. I think Megan's realizing she thought she wanted this, but really doesn't. Plus whatever her dad was alluding do -- were we supposed to know what that was?
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| # ? Apr 30, 2012 06:42 |
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The adventures of Sally Draper are the best. 
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| # ? Apr 30, 2012 07:00 |
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kylejack posted:Megan came to NYC because she wanted to act. She just took the secretary job while she was still trying to make the acting/modeling thing work. i thought she had already given up the acting dreams after she left california? or did she never live there and i'm misremembering her talking about her history with her ex roommate
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cletepurcel posted:Was it just me, or did the dysfunctional relationship between Megan's parents seem like a best-worst-case scenario for Don and Megan in 20 years (if it hypothetically lasted that long.) Almost every line between Don and Emile was father-daughter related. Not a coincidence that Sally also is in most of the episode. When Emile spoke with Megan at the dinner table, it was pretty clear he had clear expectations for his daughter; same goes for Don when he vetoes Sally's outfit - makeup and boots. If Megan is something like her mother, then you can see her attitude is to "try everything; no regrets.". Something it seems at odds with her husband. Maybe it's the same view of Megan her father has of her - why is she putting all this effort into something (advertising) she probably doesn't like? Not to mention it seems like Megan is probably going to be a bit more aimless/stuck at advertising (Don said no one chooses it a few episodes ago). Also the age disparity between husband/wife, or at least Megan's parents were fashioned in a way that made it pretty obvious.
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Y Kant Ozma Post posted:Because it seems like something that would be an issue for her with good reason. Mom seemed very surprised when Abe mentioned that he loves it when Peggy makes ham, remember? In a broader context, it's also something Peggy sort of shares with Don, since a lot of his former lovers have been Jewish. I think it adds to the whole Peggy-as-Don thing. Especially if she sleeps with Ginsberg later like a lot of people seem to think.
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JaundiceDave posted:i thought she had already given up the acting dreams after she left california? or did she never live there and i'm misremembering her talking about her history with her ex roommate
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BrooklynBruiser posted:I'm about 90% sure Megan's dad was in The Hunt For Red October... Maybe that's why they made him a Commie! Watching Hunt for Red October now, and yep, Megan's dad was the engineer on the Red October. Awesome.
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| # ? Apr 30, 2012 07:31 |
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The French scenes were really bad. The accents were all over the place. Megan's mom sounded like a British actress trying to sound Parisian.
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| # ? Apr 30, 2012 08:45 |
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It was Julia Ormond, wasn't it? She's British.
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EndOfTheWorld posted:Down goes granny! I'm going to assume coincidence, but I really wish that it was intentional to have two grannies going down in the same episode.
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^^^ Well played, Sir. ^^^ _________________________ JaundiceDave posted:after a shaky first 2 episodes, this has been the longest string of consistently A or A+ episodes this show has ever had. absolutely fantastic I concur. My wife has missed the last 3 episodes and this morning asked me to tell her what she had missed. I couldn't even begin. I just told her that she has to watch it to believe it.
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| # ? Apr 30, 2012 14:31 |
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This was one of the funniest episodes I can remember, too. There should be some kind of Secretly Hilarious Emmy award.
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| # ? Apr 30, 2012 14:52 |
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I really don't think I can overstate how much I enjoyed Roger and Sally's interactions. I think when we were all around Sally's age, there were adults in our lives, whether they were friends of our parents, or aunts and uncles or neighbors, who were just natural with you, treated you like an adult, let you in on adult jokes and such. Adults who you really looked forward to hanging out with because they were just cool with us. Slattery did that perfectly. You could tell just how much Sally was enjoying this little peek into the adult world that Roger was letting her have. This has been a really really good season so far.
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zoux posted:I really don't think I can overstate how much I enjoyed Roger and Sally's interactions. I think when we were all around Sally's age, there were adults in our lives, whether they were friends of our parents, or aunts and uncles or neighbors, who were just natural with you, treated you like an adult, let you in on adult jokes and such. Adults who you really looked forward to hanging out with because they were just cool with us. Slattery did that perfectly. You could tell just how much Sally was enjoying this little peek into the adult world that Roger was letting her have. Roger might not be a good dad as far as a role model's concerned, but he's definitely one of the coolest ones.
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I couldn't help but laugh out loud at how sad the sad table was at the end of that episode. I'm really enjoying the new Roger too.
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isk posted:Roger might not be a good dad as far as a role model's concerned, but he's definitely one of the coolest ones. He's a great druncle, and it's very similar to relationships that I've had with adults as a child and then as I grew up. You find out some things about them that make it hard to reconcile the image you had of them while you younger, and then as you discover them being an actual person. It turns out this cool rear end person is a drunk or a philanderer, or a cheat or whatever. Sally finds this out immediately, but I could definitely relate to having your image of this person you loved as a child tarnished as you find out their human flaws.
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Fistgrrl posted:It was Julia Ormond, wasn't it? She's British. That's who I thought it was. I tried to IMDB it but it didn't show up on her list and it was bothering me all night because I could swear it was her.
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Has the show addressed why her parents named her Megan? It's not a French name, and they don't speak English when they're all alone together. I'm guessing that the real reason is that the writers didn't give Megan a backstory until they realized she was going to be a major character, but I'm wondering if any in-show reason has been given and I missed it. It just seems odd.
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Blue Scream posted:Has the show addressed why her parents named her Megan? It's not a French name, and they don't speak English when they're all alone together. I'm guessing that the real reason is that the writers didn't give Megan a backstory until they realized she was going to be a major character, but I'm wondering if any in-show reason has been given and I missed it. It just seems odd. My parents gave my sister a Spanish name because they thought it sounded pretty, even though there isn't an ounce of Spanish/Mexican culture anywhere in the family tree.
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I wonder if Glen is going to be a bigger part of the show in the future. They've kept him as a friend and confidante and the scenes we see of them show that they're both growing up into their own little persons, and have made an effort to keep in touch.
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This one was all about the characters accepting what was put in front of them, even if it isn't what they wanted. Peggy accepting Abe's offer to move in to her apartment when she wanted a proposal; Megan accepting the life of a copyrighter when she wanted a career as an actress; even Sally ate the plate of fish she received at the banquet when we were told at the beginning of the episode that she specifically didn't like fish. Even Don, who doesn't want to see his daughter grow up, accepts that one day, Sally will be wearing makeup (and probably more).
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SpaceMost posted:I wonder if Glen is going to be a bigger part of the show in the future.
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hepscat posted:I feel awful for Sally. If only it had been some random folks, not her buddy Roger. Her grandma stole her date! Sally had just put her other grandma in a cast earlier in the episode, so I can't wait til next week when she gets her revenge on her man-stealing French grandma-ma! Excellent episode. But I am getting a little irritated with the "Godfather"-esque music they've started incorporating the past couple of weeks.
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I think they are setting the stage for Megan's exit from SCDP. I think Megan's mom is going to tell her dad that she blew Roger in order to piss him off and get revenge for his infidelities. I think Megan is going to find out about it and that's going to be the final straw that gets her to quit.
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SquirrelPrincess posted:Excellent episode. But I am getting a little irritated with the "Godfather"-esque music they've started incorporating the past couple of weeks. I've been thinking the music is a little incongruous lately too. It was a funny episode in a lot of ways, but the song over the end credits last night made it feel as if the show were being played for laughs.
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What do you think the fallout is going to be from the revelation that no one will do business with Don because no one trusts him?
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zoux posted:What do you think the fallout is going to be from the revelation that no one will do business with Don because no one trusts him? I can see Don becoming a liability for the business. Hell, he was already a walking time bomb at Sterling Cooper, and that was before he disappeared for a month as they were closing the PPL deal. SCDP has done a lot of riding on Don's reputation, and they might have to develop some more refined chops now. The part that interests me most is that we've had the aphorism that "when you don't like what's being said, change the conversation" thrown about since season 1, and now Don is finding out that a lot of businesspeople like things as they are, thank you very much.
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Aatrek posted:This one was all about the characters accepting what was put in front of them, even if it isn't what they wanted. Peggy accepting Abe's offer to move in to her apartment when she wanted a proposal; Megan accepting the life of a copyrighter when she wanted a career as an actress; even Sally ate the plate of fish she received at the banquet when we were told at the beginning of the episode that she specifically didn't like fish. Even Don, who doesn't want to see his daughter grow up, accepts that one day, Sally will be wearing makeup (and probably more). Someday Sally will spread her legs and fly.
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That was one of th best episodes in quite a while. The last line was perfect.
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Aatrek posted:even Sally ate the plate of fish she received at the banquet when we were told at the beginning of the episode that she specifically didn't like fish. Yeah, especially when it was served in the most gruesome (besides alive) way possible. She was adventuring into adulthood by taking a nibble anyway. Also I may need to rewatch this, but I think after she sees Roger and Marie, she sits back down and the waiter asks her if she's done with her kiddie cocktail and she says yes. Nice.
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bobkatt013 posted:Someday Sally will spread her legs and fly. Someone I work with is convinced that line plus the walk in on Roger and phone call at the end mean we're going to get some kind of Sally gives Glenn a hummer incident, which both disturbs the poo poo out of me and seems within Weiner's wheelhouse at the same time.
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Fistgrrl posted:I think after she sees Roger and Marie, she sits back down and the waiter asks her if she's done with her kiddie cocktail and she says yes. Nice. This is how it happens, although at the time I didn't read anything into that except "I am nauseated by the filthy nature of the world I've been a part of since birth."
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LifelongFan posted:The only reason Glen is on the show is because he's Matthew Weiner's son. The actor specifically, sure, but the character is necessary in that we need to have Sally communicating with some sort of peer in order to get more insight on her character. There's really no way to do that without it seeming potentially clumsy; it'd be like sitting her in a therapist's office every week just so she can say what she thinks about everything. Glen's a better alternative to that, and serves as a pretty good bridge. I probably don't need to overstate it because it's obvious, but seeing her friendship with Roger develop and go down the tubes is a pretty familiar moment for any of us I imagine. When I was her age I always liked having adults treat me like one of the gang...until they actually behaved as adults do in all situations and I realized oh, wait, I don't WANT to be grownup yet.
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sportsgenius86 posted:Someone I work with is convinced that line plus the walk in on Roger and phone call at the end mean we're going to get some kind of Sally gives Glenn a hummer incident, which both disturbs the poo poo out of me and seems within Weiner's wheelhouse at the same time.
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vyst posted:Hahahahahahahaha Roger getting a hummer She really should have yelled: GO GET'EM TIGER at him.
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SpaceMost posted:I also got that impression at the end of the episode and I'm pretty sure Glenn will be her first. They have been building up to that since they became friends. It will also be worth it for the Betty breakdown that will occur when she finds out.
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