|
GreenBuckanneer posted:Lane sucks, what are you talking about? Get out of this thread.
|
| # ? May 1, 2012 08:50 |
|
|
|
| # ? May 18, 2013 15:37 |
|
|
Another series of excellent posts and popular opinions by the GreenBuckanneer.
|
| # ? May 1, 2012 09:02 |
|
|
I'm sorry that my opinion is dissenting. I'll keep in mind to be an echo chamber instead of expressing an opinion.
|
| # ? May 1, 2012 09:12 |
|
|
GreenBuckanneer posted:I'm sorry that my opinion is dissenting. I'll keep in mind to be an echo chamber instead of expressing an opinion. You don't have to go that far. I'd take you just being able to deal with the consequences of your posts. Are you perhaps talking about season 4, while the rest of us are watching season 5?
|
| # ? May 1, 2012 09:28 |
|
|
GreenBuckanneer posted:Lane sucks, what are you talking about? I've been a passive reader of this thread but I need to finally say this to you - it's "R O G E R". Thanks.
|
| # ? May 1, 2012 09:35 |
|
|
Vorgen posted:You don't have to go that far. I'd take you just being able to deal with the consequences of your posts. Yes, as I'm not just quite done but felt I was caught up enough since I'm 90% season 4. fork banger posted:I've been a passive reader of this thread but I need to finally say this to you - it's "R O G E R". Thanks. Sorry, it's like 6am. My bad.
|
| # ? May 1, 2012 09:58 |
|
|
Vorgen posted:You don't have to go that far. I'd take you just being able to deal with the consequences of your posts. Yes, he even explicitly says as much: GreenBuckanneer posted:I'm halfway done the fourth season, am I supposed to hate betty draper? At that point I think his opinions make much more sense. Joan was occasionally a bit bitchy to Peggy and I don't remember Lane being very sympathetic until the Godzilla episode, from what I recall. Aaanyway, this was another fantastic episode. As some have pointed out, this was a "happy" episode despite everyone looking seriously bummed out by the end of it. It's not that it wasn't their fault though, except for Sally, everyone got themselves into their present situation. I think it's happy because realizing these new things is good for them, even if it's upsetting in the short term. Like Don was certainly upset when told about the effects his stunt with Lucky Strike (which at the time was probably the best they could do) had, but realizing that the big shots don't trust him is crucial for getting SCDP back on track, likewise Megan might re-evaluate her career and steer it in a way that would make her happier down the line.
|
| # ? May 1, 2012 10:01 |
|
|
GreenBuckanneer posted:Yes, as I'm not just quite done but felt I was caught up enough since I'm 90% season 4. Definitely not caught up enough considering Season 5 is halfway over now.
|
| # ? May 1, 2012 12:09 |
|
|
Richman777 posted:Definitely not caught up enough considering Season 5 is halfway over now. I'm currently on the first episode of season 5 now, I'm not sure my opinion is going to radically change unless something radical happens.
|
| # ? May 1, 2012 17:53 |
|
|
I dunno, when her husband comes back and acts like a complete dick, while she's sincerely trying to be a good wife and mother, that could do it.
|
| # ? May 1, 2012 17:58 |
|
|
GreenBuckanneer posted:I'm sorry that my opinion is dissenting. I'll keep in mind to be an echo chamber instead of expressing an opinion. You could also try having a sense of humor- see if that works out for you.
|
| # ? May 1, 2012 18:20 |
|
|
GreenBuckanneer posted:I'm currently on the first episode of season 5 now, I'm not sure my opinion is going to radically change unless something radical happens.
|
| # ? May 1, 2012 18:28 |
|
|
MC Fruit Stripe posted:I dunno, when her husband comes back and acts like a complete dick, while she's sincerely trying to be a good wife and mother, that could do it. Well, he did surprise sex his wife, so I can't say I liked him very much. She's much better this season though. I still love Roger and Peggy though. Lane is too much of a goofball but I suppose I'm judgmental to the actor himself. Pete's never changed though, he's been a consistent dirtrag.
|
| # ? May 1, 2012 19:12 |
|
|
GreenBuckanneer posted:Lane sucks, what are you talking about? How can you be so wrong after having watched the episode with the Big Texas Belt Buckle?
|
| # ? May 1, 2012 19:52 |
|
|
GreenBuckanneer posted:I'm currently on the first episode of season 5 now, I'm not sure my opinion is going to radically change unless something radical happens. Well later on they (spoiler alert)indicate that he is the inventor of the kickflip, so that is pretty radical. And he does other cool stuff. It's not unreasonable to get on the Lane Train.
|
| # ? May 1, 2012 20:29 |
|
|
MaverickEX posted:Well later on they (spoiler alert)indicate that he is the inventor of the kickflip, so that is pretty radical. He skateboards? What? No.
|
| # ? May 1, 2012 20:32 |
|
|
GreenBuckanneer posted:He skateboards? What? No. It turns out the reason you never see the second floor of their new office is because Lane had it replaced with a giant half-pipe.
|
| # ? May 1, 2012 20:35 |
|
|
(spoilers) The skate rink is revealed in an episode this season where he kicks Pete's rear end in a fistfight, plants a big kiss on Joan, and then goes downstairs and totally shreds. How can you not love Lane?
|
| # ? May 1, 2012 20:39 |
|
|
pre: JOANIE
(to the secretaries)
That's Lane Pryce! Oh, God, he's a dream!
EXT. BUILDING AND STREET
Lane dashes down the street, followed by Pete and the boys. Most of the
staff in the office hurry outside to watch, including JOANIE and the
secretaries.
Lane looks behind him - Pete and company are gaining. Then Peggy on a
scooter comes by. Thinking quickly, Lane yanks the scooter out from under
her, kicks off the orange crate and creates a homemade SKATEBOARD! Lane hops
on it and sails off down the sidewalk!
Pete and the boys have never seen anything like it - nor has Peggy!
Everyone stares at Lane as he whizzes down the sidewalk.
PEGGY
Wow! Look at him go!
GINSBERG
What is that thing?
PETE
(to his boys)
Someone drive the car!
Pete and the gang jump in Trudy's convertible. Pete peels out after Lane.
|
| # ? May 1, 2012 20:57 |
|
|
I too like Back to the Future. 
|
| # ? May 1, 2012 21:03 |
|
|
SpaceMost posted:
This is goddamn brilliant.
|
| # ? May 1, 2012 21:03 |
|
|
I swear to God, sometimes goons are the best thing. I would pledge quite a bit to a kickstarter raising money so that Jared Harris would be totally radical on a skateboard while Christina Hendricks looks on.
|
| # ? May 1, 2012 21:14 |
|
|
JayMax posted:The French scenes were really bad. The accents were all over the place. Megan's mom sounded like a British actress trying to sound Parisian. The accents were all over the place except where they were supposed to be: Quebec. They didn't even try not to sound and look utterly Parisians. Couple is fighting? I replaced the uppity accent with the normative "stie d'cālisse de tabarnak" that should have been heard - because it's still HBO - and I might even have created a violently slammed door or two in my head to make it right. --- The scene between Joan and Peggy. When one goes through a rough patch, one feels naturally more tolerant towards other people. A happily married Joan would have treated diamondless Peggy differently, more like looking down at her from her golden tower above. Nice touch here that disappointed Peggy would find comfort in newly-single Joan. The author of the article a poster quoted last week would probably claim that this is again the writers pandering to the fans, but come on; this particular friendship is long overdue. 
|
| # ? May 2, 2012 03:41 |
|
|
GreenBuckanneer posted:
The thing about this show is that ALL of the characters are flawed. They're well-rounded and make mistakes and we judge them based upon how we see what is good and what is bad. Who is to say what this is? Don is a great example of this. Guy cheats on his wife and lies about a secret life, yet we side with him because anyone is better than Betty Draper-Frances. Perhaps this is how I feel about Pete. Pete has always been my favorite character because I understand his character and his motivation. His upraising and circumstances drive him to achieve and he longs nothing more than to desire. Achieving and holding tangible accomplishments isn't enough because in the end he'll always want more, to desire. That's why the Miniature Orchestra Episode really gave me ~feelings~ because you saw more about his character. Deep down he'll never be happy. He longs too much, strives too much. You can do this to all characters in the show, which is why I actually adore how all of the characters are written. Yes, I dislike Betty but I feel that we're suppose to dislike her. This is the one show where I just love seeing the characters do things on screen. It's perfection. All of them.
|
| # ? May 2, 2012 04:34 |
|
|
TXT BOOTY7 2 47474 posted:Does anyone else find it odd that Peggy had no moral crisis or other reaction to Abe's "proposal," given the random handjob last episode? If nothing else, it seems like the sort of thing she would have told Joan in their kitchen conversation the next morning. Peggy's somewhat prone to crises of conscience and that handjob scene was WAY too out of character to have no repercussions when a man wants to take their relationship more seriously immediately after. No one responded to this - was there a mention of it I missed?
|
| # ? May 2, 2012 04:37 |
|
|
TXT BOOTY7 2 47474 posted:No one responded to this - was there a mention of it I missed? As a good catholic, Peggy Olson has the remarkable ability to remove events of her history from her memory, and going on as if they never happened. See: a bastard child.
|
| # ? May 2, 2012 05:05 |
|
|
I really don't think the handjob was that big a deal.
|
| # ? May 2, 2012 05:31 |
|
|
JayMax posted:I really don't think the handjob was that big a deal. You don't think public sexual activity with strangers is a big deal when you're in a committed relationship? Especially for a Catholic girl in the 60s?
|
| # ? May 2, 2012 05:34 |
|
|
Bobfromsales posted:As a good catholic, Peggy Olson has the remarkable ability to remove events of her history from her memory, and going on as if they never happened. Yeah, she's been trained well by Don. Also, is it just me or is there a lot more sex this year than in year's past?
|
| # ? May 2, 2012 05:37 |
|
|
McSpanky posted:You don't think public sexual activity with strangers is a big deal when you're in a committed relationship? Especially for a Catholic girl in the 60s? I don't think she cares about being a good Catholic girl anymore. And I don't know how committed she is about her relationship with Abe, or was at the time. She got high and gave a handjob to some random dude she'll never see again. We've seen our share of extra-conjugal sexual encounters on this show, and this was by far the most harmless.
|
| # ? May 2, 2012 05:59 |
|
|
Bobfromsales posted:See: a bastard child. I was really hoping that Peggy's Mom was going to bring up all of Peggy's dirty laundry and why she doesn't support her decisions. Some hysterical raid of "You're living in sin? Shouldn't be surprised, you did have a bastard child years ago." I don't think Peggy has told anyone outside of Don, Pete and her family about that. Now I want secret!baby to be mentioned in a future episode. Don't you think Pete wonders whatever happened to that kid?
|
| # ? May 2, 2012 06:01 |
|
|
McSpanky posted:You don't think public sexual activity with strangers is a big deal when you're in a committed relationship? Especially for a Catholic girl in the 60s? Peggy has been steadily portrayed as the progressive one amongst a conservative society. I'm not sure she was happy with herself after the fact, Catholic ingrained guilt and all, but still she did it. My guess is Abe was more on her mind than the Bible ever was when that happened. Go, Peggy.
|
| # ? May 2, 2012 06:50 |
|
|
courtney_beth posted:The thing about this show is that ALL of the characters are flawed. They're well-rounded and make mistakes and we judge them based upon how we see what is good and what is bad. Who is to say what this is? Don is a great example of this. Guy cheats on his wife and lies about a secret life, yet we side with him because anyone is better than Betty Draper-Frances. I agree to an extent, but I'd take it a step further and say I and others side with Don not so much because he's "better" than Betty, but because he is deeply flawed but has the potential to be a better person. One thing I kinda noticed in this episode was that Don was less pensive and emo than normal. There were little touches that Hamm gave his performance that gave me a general vibe that Don was genuinely happy and centered in this episode. I was waiting for him to blow up or get angry or look like he was repressing strong feelings and he wasn't. He just seemed generally in a good place. A far cry from S1 emo "you're born alone and you die alone" Draper.
|
| # ? May 2, 2012 07:07 |
|
|
Bobfromsales posted:As a good catholic, Peggy Olson has the remarkable ability to remove events of her history from her memory, and going on as if they never happened. I was confused with how they seemed to ignore last week events, but this makes sense to me, particularly with the attitude her mother showed at dinner. "Would you rather I not told you at all?" "Yes!" In regards to informing her mother that Abe was moving in. I'd also like to mention that what her mother said about "if you're lonely, get a cat" was soul-crushing and a very Catholic, repressive thing to say. It also fits with the theme of Peggy becoming more like Don, while Don becomes less and less so with Megan's influence in his life.
|
| # ? May 2, 2012 07:13 |
|
|
Astroman posted:I agree to an extent, but I'd take it a step further and say I and others side with Don not so much because he's "better" than Betty, but because he is deeply flawed but has the potential to be a better person. Yeah but last week he flipped the gently caress out, abandoned his wife at a HoJo's, broke into their apartment to see her, chased her around, tackled her, and then sobbed that he thought he'd lost her forever. He's centered and happy most of the time but at other times he explodes in really inappropriate and hosed up ways. He's found his new normal and it is not good.
|
| # ? May 2, 2012 07:20 |
|
|
I laughed when they were all in the conference room celebrating the success of the Heinz pitch and Ken is talking about Don and Megan pulling it off, when Harry interjects with "and Megan and Don just passed it back and forth like a couple of pros" with this stupid knowing grin. Ken "You weren't even there!".
|
| # ? May 2, 2012 11:08 |
|
|
GreenBuckanneer posted:I'm halfway done the fourth season, am I supposed to hate betty draper? Masturbating? Perfectly normal. Masturbating while a guest in someones house, while they're sleeping next to you? Probably not no.
|
| # ? May 3, 2012 04:49 |
|
|
NeoNaoNeo posted:Masturbating? Perfectly normal. Masturbating while a guest in someones house, while they're sleeping next to you? Probably not no. Not to be creepy or anything, but you know kids do weird stuff sometimes and it doesn't mean they're totally screwed up and in need of therapy, right?
|
| # ? May 3, 2012 05:23 |
|
|
Y Kant Ozma Post posted:Not to be creepy or anything, but you know kids do weird stuff sometimes and it doesn't mean they're totally screwed up and in need of therapy, right? Sure, but that doesn't mean it's crazy to send her to a child psychologist for acting out in such a way. Kids need someone safe to talk to.
|
| # ? May 3, 2012 05:28 |
|
|
|
| # ? May 18, 2013 15:37 |
|
|
Betty's behavior was purely punitive, though.
|
| # ? May 3, 2012 05:35 |
|
