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GramCracker
Oct 8, 2005

Smooth operator.


Doronin posted:

Mr. Belding and that look on Don's face when he's told he can't smoke... that scene was awesome.

Please tell me someone has a screen cap showing Don's face. This is exactly how his face looked: That was just a complete death stare. It ruled.

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qbert
Oct 23, 2003

It's both thrilling and terrifying.

As soon as Don told Megan he was okay with her quitting to be an actress, I knew it was because he was afraid of repeating the same mistake with Betty. It's becoming very evident that he doesn't want to work anymore and only liked work because Megan was around. Also that yelling match between Don and Peggy at the end felt very much like parents arguing over their daughter's bad life choice.

"Pizza House!" and actual Beatles music made this ep for me.

Y Kant Ozma Post
Jun 7, 2001

show, pro-heart, that you have got gall!


Jeff Wiiver posted:

e: wait nevermind it was "Tomorrow Never Knows"

Only one of my favorite Beatles songs, sheesh

zoux
Apr 28, 2006



kylejack posted:

Empty elevator shaft: My read was that Don was planning on going to the bar and getting poo poo-faced. The shaft was a sign for him that that's a dead-end that will destroy another marriage, and to keep your poo poo under control. So he took the sign and went back and made himself one drink in the office.

It was reinforced for me later when Megan remarked that she expected him to come home drunk, tells him how proud she is of him, and he smiles.

My first read of that was he was trying to catch her in the lobby. Maybe it was saying something about chasing after her, I don't know. But I think we know what's going to be going on in this thread for the next week.

Weren't people skeptical about Don/Megan last season? I think their marriage is much more interesting than Don and Betty's marriage, but that's probably helped by Jessica Pare's acting ability.

qbert
Oct 23, 2003

It's both thrilling and terrifying.

zoux posted:

Weren't people skeptical about Don/Megan last season? I think their marriage is much more interesting than Don and Betty's marriage, but that's probably helped by Jessica Pare's acting ability.

Yeah both sides kind of surprisingly lucked out. Jessica Pare sure as heck didn't expect to turn into the female lead of this season's Mad Men, and I doubt Matt Weiner had any idea she could pull off the acting chops from her few scenes last season.

Really glad the storyline turned out more interesting than I was dreading.

Reinanigans
Aug 31, 2005

"See? Now this is why you didn't get a movie." -Suicune

Y Kant Ozma Post posted:

Only one of my favorite Beatles songs, sheesh

I couldn't believe they played that particular song. At first I was in disbelief that they would play any Beatles song, just based on the cost. Then I figured it'd be the safe pick off that album, with "Eleanor Rigby."

But when I heard that unmistakable intro, I loving lost it. I actually heard "Tomorrow Never Knows" on TV. Hell yes.

Oh yeah, the episode was great. Rory Gilmore <3

TXT BOOTY7 2 47474
Jan 12, 2006

eat your vegetables dot com


Did anyone else feel a little uncomfortable when Taxman didn't start after Don put the needle on the record?

Obviously Tomorrow Never Knows was a perfect choice but it just felt so wrong

UltimoDragonQuest
Oct 5, 2011



Don must really hate The Beatles.
He dropped the needle to the final song on side two.

e: vvvvvvvvvvvv

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Jeff Wiiver
Jul 13, 2007

So I parallel double park that mutha fucka sideways
Old folks talkin bout "Back in my day..."
But homie this is my day


zoux posted:

My first read of that was he was trying to catch her in the lobby. Maybe it was saying something about chasing after her, I don't know. But I think we know what's going to be going on in this thread for the next week.
The more I think about it, maybe Don was convinced that she was going to come back, and change her mind. Ignoring that that's not really how elevators work, I think it's a possibility, especially if you're right about him trying to catch her in the lobby. Don's used to being the one in a relationship who makes big decisions and I don't think he's really used to a significant other going after what they want so strongly. Betty would've never done what Megan did in this episode, which I think is just further solidifying his love for her.

edit: to the two people above, Megan told him to play that song first.

cletepurcel
Oct 24, 2009

so why dont we
put him into a canan
and shoot him into the trolls base where
ever it is and let him kill all of them. its
so perfect that it can't go wrong.

i think its the best plan i
have ever heard in my life

I can't help but contrast it with when Betty briefly modeled again for the Coke ad in season 1, there she was just a pawn of the agency recruiting Don, and when Don shuts it down by rejecting the offer, you can tell she is a little crushed. She had no control at any stage of that process, compare it to Megan taking initiative and succeeding

Although its interesting that Megan was clearly influenced by what her dad said to her in the previous episode.

xbilkis
Apr 11, 2005

god qb
me
jay hova


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Iw0euc4qDk

FetusOvaries
Jun 16, 2010

I'll kiss you in the rain

bobkatt013 posted:

I grew up in the 30s indoor plumbing is a dream.

Don and Rubber Soul.

It was Revolver.

sorry this makes me mad : )

FetusOvaries fucked around with this message at May 7, 2012 around 05:11

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

Yes join me


FetusOvaries posted:

It was Revolver.

sorry this makes me mad : )

No problem I have no idea why I thought it was Rubber Soul.

No Manners No
Jul 15, 2010


Jeff Wiiver posted:

I hope they're not going to kill off Megan because I think that would be kind of lazy and soap opera-ish of them, but if you look at the lyrics to "Love You To", the elevator scene and the shot at the end of the show where she's pretending to be dead, its hard not to draw that conclusion. I'm hoping it's just a red herring though.

e: wait nevermind it was "Tomorrow Never Knows"

I don't see her as pretending to be dead in anything except how it looks. I think the acting exercise she's doing is to become focused on everything around her. It stood out to me in direct contrast with the gift she gave Don with the idea that he could be more aware of what's going on right now. He doesn't even make it through the entire song.

Another thing that I noticed is that she's going to classes to become a better actor. Dick "Don Draper" Whitman acts every day of his life. I'm not exactly feeling it, but are we supposed to get the idea that Megan is talented at advertising?

If we are, and an upcoming episode has her succeeding at acting too, then I wonder what that would do to Don. This episode seems like it's either the beginning of where they grow increasingly distant from one another or it's supposed to show that they're somehow balanced.

pipian
Jun 17, 2004
Robot Appendectomy

FetusOvaries posted:

It was Revolver.

sorry this makes me mad : )

The Beatles nerd in me is a bit annoyed that they played the Stereo version rather than the Mono.

EvilCornbread
Jun 2, 2011



I thought this episode was brilliant in the way that people dealt with Megan's realization -- it's incredibly easy to take that kind of career rejection personally, and to see Don put on a brave face and even be borderline genuinely supportive was almost shocking. I was so proud of him.

And then Peggy, at first being downright pissed and telling Megan off (and yet right at the same time about telling Don), then seeing how hard and brave it actually was for her. Man. I get that people think this show is slow, but the character interactions are just second-to-none.

That empty elevator though...eesh, that was reeeealy unsettling. Pete is destined for that thing.

Harlock
Jan 15, 2006

Tap "A" to drink!!!



If only she said it like Futurama/Animal House. That's only how I want to hear it in my head anyways.

I'm really glad Peggy can stand up to Don and yell back in his face. Our girl has come a long way.

Shes Not Impressed
Apr 25, 2004

When it's over I just want to be able to look in the mirror and say, 'Well, you were a half-decent player.'


Pete Campbell smashing that glass in the hotel room, for me, is what I imagine Pete Best does any time he hears a song by The Beatles.

rawillkill
Aug 15, 2009


kylejack posted:

Empty elevator shaft: My read was that Don was planning on going to the bar and getting poo poo-faced. The shaft was a sign for him that that's a dead-end that will destroy another marriage, and to keep your poo poo under control. So he took the sign and went back and made himself one drink in the office.

It was reinforced for me later when Megan remarked that she expected him to come home drunk, tells him how proud she is of him, and he smiles.

You... you're something special man. Good read on that. Never would have considered it.

elpintogrande
Sep 3, 2000


If anyone can grab an HD screenshot, I would be in your debt for that wide shot with Don's reaction after the woman tells Don he can't smoke in the flavor lab.

robot roll call
Mar 7, 2006

dance dance dance dance dance to the radio


Haha, I knew this would be the thread title.

I can't believe they got a Beatles song. The whole time he was putting the record on I figured they'd cut away before it actually started playing. Instead it was a backdrop to a great scene. I'm impressed. I also did not realize the insurance guy's wife was the girl from Gilmore Girls until I came to the thread. She's beautiful, it was very easy for me to identify with Pete's feelings for her (infidelity aside).

Also, I did a little research on pictures of the Earth since the discussion in this episode made me realize how a lot of us probably take that kind of thing for granted. I assumed they were talking about the blue marble which is pretty much "the" image everyone thinks of, but it hadn't been taken at that point. It's more likely they were discussing this picture. I could be wrong, but the date seems to match pretty well.

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MC Fruit Stripe
Nov 26, 2002

When life gives you lemons DANCE DANCE DANCE!

Paid in part by CF


I am sold on Ginsberg

anotherone
Feb 8, 2001
Username taken, please choose another one

elpintogrande posted:

If anyone can grab an HD screenshot, I would be in your debt for that wide shot with Don's reaction after the woman tells Don he can't smoke in the flavor lab.

elpintogrande
Sep 3, 2000


anotherone posted:



You are the best.

courtney_beth
Jul 23, 2007

I SHALL NOT USE MY
HOOVES AS HANDS


I hope that instead of bringing in a new copywriter that they continue to use Stan and Ginsberg more, especially Ginsberg. He's awesome.

Almost as awesome as the random appearance of Mr. Belding, who has not aged well at all.

And as the resident Pete Campbell apologist, his actions this week made it very difficult for me to sympathize for him.

UltimoDragonQuest
Oct 5, 2011



Is it just me or was Ginsberg checking out that guy as he left the meeting room?

Y Kant Ozma Post
Jun 7, 2001

show, pro-heart, that you have got gall!


I really don't think Ginsberg is gay!

kylejack
Feb 28, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 32 hours!


I noticed in the credits that Ginsberg is still credited as a guest star. Bad sign for him?

courtney_beth posted:

And as the resident Pete Campbell apologist, his actions this week made it very difficult for me to sympathize for him.
He's a bad bad man, and all the pain he's getting right now is just the karmic kick in the balls he deserves.

courtney_beth
Jul 23, 2007

I SHALL NOT USE MY
HOOVES AS HANDS


UltimoDragonQuest posted:

Is it just me or was Ginsberg checking out that guy as he left the meeting room?


I have been getting vibes off him since his first appearance. There's just little things here and there that make me wonder...

robot roll call
Mar 7, 2006

dance dance dance dance dance to the radio


Y Kant Ozma Post posted:

I really don't think Ginsberg is gay!

I agree, Martians do not abide by our human notions of sexuality.

windwaker
Jul 9, 2004

That's like killing a unicorn!


What is up with the heavy-handed Pete-suicide symbolism this season? It seems too obvious for this show to introduce like five different ways that he could die.

Azure_Horizon
Mar 27, 2010

You can live in the wreckage and pretend it's the mansion you remember, or you can crawl from the rubble and move on.


Y Kant Ozma Post posted:

I really don't think Ginsberg is gay!

I don't, either. I don't really paint him as having a discernible sexuality that we can pinpoint.

Elftor
Jan 10, 2003


"Tomorrow Never Knows" is pretty advanced Beatles listening for someone who just warmed up to "I Want to Hold Your Hand" two weeks ago. I'm not sure Megan understands what a crotchety old man Don is.

Quinton
Apr 25, 2004

there were a most
disfortunate accident


TXT BOOTY7 2 47474 posted:

Did anyone else feel a little uncomfortable when Taxman didn't start after Don put the needle on the record?

Obviously Tomorrow Never Knows was a perfect choice but it just felt so wrong

Yeah, that had me scratching my head. It seemed like one of those little factual details that Mad Men tends not to mess up. He clearly put the needle down on the outside and his handling of the record certainly made me think he was finding the A side, and then it wasn't Taxman...

kylejack
Feb 28, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 32 hours!


Ugh, record nerds. Poor Matthew Weiner.

Metrication
Dec 11, 2010

Of course you have a choice. You can decide how you say yes.


They're always so stingy on Harry screen time, very upsetting.

Enigma89
Jan 2, 2007

Ich bin ein Berliner


kylejack posted:

Empty elevator shaft: My read was that Don was planning on going to the bar and getting poo poo-faced. The shaft was a sign for him that that's a dead-end that will destroy another marriage, and to keep your poo poo under control. So he took the sign and went back and made himself one drink in the office.

It was reinforced for me later when Megan remarked that she expected him to come home drunk, tells him how proud she is of him, and he smiles.
I didn't think of that but this makes a lot of sense. Props

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

Yes join me


kylejack posted:

I noticed in the credits that Ginsberg is still credited as a guest star. Bad sign for him?

During the first season Roger and Cooper were just guest stars.

Ofc. Sex Robot BPD
Aug 30, 2008


No Manners No posted:

I don't see her as pretending to be dead in anything except how it looks. I think the acting exercise she's doing is to become focused on everything around her. It stood out to me in direct contrast with the gift she gave Don with the idea that he could be more aware of what's going on right now. He doesn't even make it through the entire song.
Right.

It looked like she was doing a breathing exercise, which is pretty common in acting classes. I took a drama elective in uni and we did something similar -- begin with laying on your back, breathing in and out focusing on your diaphragm, clear your head. Then the instructor/director will start giving you directions, like bouncing your diaphragm to cause spontaneous laughing or crying, or lead you in to movement exercises. It's not about playing dead, it's about becoming more aware of your own body and the bodies of the people around you.

Quinton posted:

Yeah, that had me scratching my head. It seemed like one of those little factual details that Mad Men tends not to mess up. He clearly put the needle down on the outside and his handling of the record certainly made me think he was finding the A side, and then it wasn't Taxman...
Why would Megan go through the trouble of telling Don to "start with this one" and pointing at the record sleeve if she was only telling him to start with the first track of the first side?

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Menamino
Jul 23, 2004

WHERE DA LEAD AT

I know Pete's suicide has been the thing heavily foreshadowed this season. But when Rory Gilmore drew her little heart on the window, my initial reaction was "Pete gon kill train dude." Now, I'm not so sure what to think.

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