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Khablam
Mar 29, 2012

Now you're fighting a bear,
and your life's in grave danger and you don't even care.

Genderfluid posted:

If that had actually been the case I would have probably stopped watching and lost all respect for the show.
Well, this is what makes these theories very silly, producers generally respect the audience better than this. I think at the heart of it everyone wants to predict something like this based on literally no evidence at all, so they can go TOLD YOU SO at the end. I'm sure it's spurred on by confirmation bias from that one unwatched show that did something like this 12 years ago.

It's all good until they just won't let it go and a discussion derails into discussing it.

On topic: I've started re-watching from the first season since the finale, and I have to say I definitely think they're mirroring S1 themes and stylings in the final episode. It's nothing I can put my finger on, except to say it feels closer to the finale than any of the previous 2 or 3 seasons.

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Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl


Propaganda Machine posted:

I don't know how you guys feel about death of the author, but according to the AMC behind the scenes thing, Jon Hamm says Don sees something in Megan and decides to make her his "discovery," for whatever that's worth.

I really dislike her character so I'd rather think she totally sucks at acting but, well, that's apparently what Jon Hamm thought Don was thinking.

I think the author's opinion and intent can be interesting and informative, although I'm guessing some people in this thread probably want nothing more to do with Weiner's intents and opinions after what he's said about Pete's encounter with the au pair, and Joan's intended reaction to the prostitution offer.

I can't remember who directed those episodes though, so I tend to wonder if his statements pertaining to those episodes are less of a "this is what happened on the screen" and more of a "this is what I tried to write, before the cast and crew got hold of it."

That said, some people might still find it repugnant that Weiner would write scenes where Pete succeeds in seducing a teenaged foreign girl and Joan responds to an offer of prostitution with anything but utter disgust.

Misogynist
Jul 14, 2003

hubthumping

Khablam posted:

Well, this is what makes these theories very silly, producers generally respect the audience better than this. I think at the heart of it everyone wants to predict something like this based on literally no evidence at all, so they can go TOLD YOU SO at the end. I'm sure it's spurred on by confirmation bias from that one unwatched show that did something like this 12 years ago.
Literally every possible bad dramatic device has been done by The Killing in the past 18 months, so it's not like AMC doesn't have a track record of this.

Geekslinger
Jan 30, 2005



I've been out of town for the last week and a half, so after finally getting home last night my wife and I sat down to watch the finale only to discover because of the poo poo with AMC and Dish Network that Dish moved the channel numbers around and hosed up my DVR schedule so it didn't record.

I checked the schedule and didn't see any replays listed for the next couple of weeks so it looks like I'm buying the episode on iTunes tonight.

If they don't get this mess sorted out it looks like I'll be buying a season pass for Breaking Bad as well.

Kelly
Jul 3, 2003


You know what to do...
You know what to do



Geekslinger posted:

I've been out of town for the last week and a half, so after finally getting home last night my wife and I sat down to watch the finale only to discover because of the poo poo with AMC and Dish Network that Dish moved the channel numbers around and hosed up my DVR schedule so it didn't record.

I checked the schedule and didn't see any replays listed for the next couple of weeks so it looks like I'm buying the episode on iTunes tonight.

If they don't get this mess sorted out it looks like I'll be buying a season pass for Breaking Bad as well.

Comcast has an option to record a show on any channel - Direct TV doesn't have one?

my cat is norris
Mar 11, 2010

We must carry this in our hearts: that what we have is special, that it can be taken from us, and that when it is taken from us, we will be tested. We will be tested to our very souls.



Kelly posted:

Comcast has an option to record a show on any channel - Direct TV doesn't have one?

You mean Dish!

Something I've run into with Fios is that if I set my DVR to record an episode on "this channel only" -- something I do to make sure I get the HD recording -- and the channel is abruptly reassigned, my scheduling gets hosed up, too.

Has only happened once, fortunately!

Geekslinger
Jan 30, 2005



Kelly posted:

Comcast has an option to record a show on any channel - Direct TV doesn't have one?

It might be that my Dish DVR is a couple of years old, but it when you set up a schedule for a show it only scans that channel number for episodes. When they dumped AMC down into the low tier channels the scheduler still looks on the existing channel number for new episodes.

I ended up getting the finale off iTunes last night and enjoyed it thoroughly. Once again the music selection was top notch for setting the closing.

Simstim
Mar 16, 2005

You just gave me a great idea buddy.

Geekslinger posted:

It might be that my Dish DVR is a couple of years old, but it when you set up a schedule for a show it only scans that channel number for episodes. When they dumped AMC down into the low tier channels the scheduler still looks on the existing channel number for new episodes.

I ended up getting the finale off iTunes last night and enjoyed it thoroughly. Once again the music selection was top notch for setting the closing.

Comcast shows all airings of the show *with the same title* on all channels. It also has a nifty search tool for actors names and shows/films. Comcast's DVRs problem is, depending on how far ahead you are looking, the show's title hasn't loaded and that is a pain in the rear end because it wont show up in the search.

Hanks Lust Cafe
Mar 18, 2011



I watched a few Season 1 episodes the other day and it really is shocking to see how much younger and more lively Don looked back then.

DasNeonLicht
Dec 25, 2005

"...and the light is on and burning brightly for the masses."

Hanks Lust Cafe posted:

I watched a few Season 1 episodes the other day and it really is shocking to see how much younger and more lively Don looked back then.

I was recently looking at Season 1 clips, too, and I noticed the same thing. I wonder how much of that is the actors aging, and how much of that is the characters aging. I guess they're both aging at the same rate, but still, it's interesting to think of how a television series actor has to embody all the experiences they have had since they first started portraying that character.

When you think about it, Don has gone though an awful lot to take the wind out of his sails -- affairs, suicides, divorce, business turmoil...

BrooklynBruiser
Aug 20, 2006

Oh my god. The microchip has been compromised.


DasNeonLicht posted:

I was recently looking at Season 1 clips, too, and I noticed the same thing. I wonder how much of that is the actors aging, and how much of that is the characters aging. I guess they're both aging at the same rate, but still, it's interesting to think of how a television series actor has to embody all the experiences they have had since they first started portraying that character.

When you think about it, Don has gone though an awful lot to take the wind out of his sails -- affairs, suicides, divorce, business turmoil...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M-iiIpzEfU

It's how they're aging the characters, and it's amazingly done.

Propaganda Machine
Jan 2, 2005

Truthiness!

Geekslinger posted:

I've been out of town for the last week and a half, so after finally getting home last night my wife and I sat down to watch the finale only to discover because of the poo poo with AMC and Dish Network that Dish moved the channel numbers around and hosed up my DVR schedule so it didn't record.

I checked the schedule and didn't see any replays listed for the next couple of weeks so it looks like I'm buying the episode on iTunes tonight.

If they don't get this mess sorted out it looks like I'll be buying a season pass for Breaking Bad as well.

AMC is a great channel, and if I had Dish I would dump my subscription over this bullshit. Vote with your wallet!

misguided rage
Jun 15, 2010

God I fucking love Diablo 3 gold, it even paid for this shitty title

BrooklynBruiser posted:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M-iiIpzEfU

It's how they're aging the characters, and it's amazingly done.

This is incredible. "I decided to heckle the characters because I don't know anything about them as people. NO MATTER HOW GOOD YOU DO WITH IT MOHAWK AIRLINES DOESN'T EXIST NOW!!"

Funhilde
Jun 1, 2011

Cats Love Me.

DasNeonLicht posted:

I was recently looking at Season 1 clips, too, and I noticed the same thing. I wonder how much of that is the actors aging, and how much of that is the characters aging. I guess they're both aging at the same rate, but still, it's interesting to think of how a television series actor has to embody all the experiences they have had since they first started portraying that character.

When you think about it, Don has gone though an awful lot to take the wind out of his sails -- affairs, suicides, divorce, business turmoil...
Don't forgot the two big aging factors : booze and smoking

BrooklynBruiser
Aug 20, 2006

Oh my god. The microchip has been compromised.


misguided rage posted:

This is incredible. "I decided to heckle the characters because I don't know anything about them as people. NO MATTER HOW GOOD YOU DO WITH IT MOHAWK AIRLINES DOESN'T EXIST NOW!!"

My favorite line from that is "WE GET IT, YOU'RE GOOD AT MOST THINGS!"

Colonial Air Force
May 22, 2002

Bombing Redcoats since 1775.


misguided rage posted:

This is incredible. "I decided to heckle the characters because I don't know anything about them as people. NO MATTER HOW GOOD YOU DO WITH IT MOHAWK AIRLINES DOESN'T EXIST NOW!!"

Play-Doh doesn't taste as good as it smells, but neither does penis.

TheBizzness
Oct 5, 2004

I don't mean to impose, but I am the ocean

Colonial Air Force posted:

Play-Doh doesn't taste as good as it smells, but neither does penis.

I've finally found my first tattoo.

Geekslinger
Jan 30, 2005



Propaganda Machine posted:

AMC is a great channel, and if I had Dish I would dump my subscription over this bullshit. Vote with your wallet!

I love the shows on AMC that much I did exactly this. Swapped to DirectTV and having it installed the day before Breaking Bad starts.

Dickeye
Oct 12, 2007

"I never thought you'd be the one to help me achieve my dreams!"

Most Improved CD Poster Custom Title Award, 2007 to present.


I just restarted watching this show (made it part way through season 2 last time, but ADHD and no money for netflix meant I stopped), and I'm remembering why I liked it before. The only thing I still don't understand is what the gently caress is the point of that arc with Betty and Glen? It feels like it's just supposed to be Betty freaked out by the EVIL LIBERAL'S kid

passionate dongs
May 22, 2001

Snitchin' is Bitchin'

Dickeye posted:

I just restarted watching this show (made it part way through season 2 last time, but ADHD and no money for netflix meant I stopped), and I'm remembering why I liked it before. The only thing I still don't understand is what the gently caress is the point of that arc with Betty and Glen? It feels like it's just supposed to be Betty freaked out by the EVIL LIBERAL'S kid
Glenn served as an emblem of a broken home encroaching into Betty's idyllic suburban life.

Dickeye
Oct 12, 2007

"I never thought you'd be the one to help me achieve my dreams!"

Most Improved CD Poster Custom Title Award, 2007 to present.


passionate dongs posted:

Glenn served as an emblem of a broken home encroaching into Betty's idyllic suburban life.

Alright yeah this makes sense. It just feels like there was supposed to be more going on with Glen and Helen as the intruders into their lives and then nope.

kaworu
Jul 23, 2004
PLEASE TELL US MORE ABOUT YOUR CAT AND WHAT A GOOD VALENTINE IT IS


passionate dongs posted:

Glenn served as an emblem of a broken home encroaching into Betty's idyllic suburban life.

I also felt like Glenn was there to reflect just how incredibly childlike Betty's perception of the world was. The key scene being when he's like, "We can run away together. No, really - I have money, we can do it!" And the truth is that at the time Betty was barely more mature than Glenn in how she was perceiving her relationship with Don. At least that was how I took it.

Hanks Lust Cafe
Mar 18, 2011



All the Glenn and Betty weirdness completely pays off at the end of the season with the heartbreaking scene between Betty and Glen while he waits in the car for his mom.

Genderfluid
Jun 18, 2009

my mom is a slut



http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/26987695.html

Canadian Surf Club
Feb 15, 2008


For some great modern commentary check out the comments to see how far we've come from Mad Men

Fooley
Apr 25, 2006

Blue moon of Kentucky keep on shinin'...

I got really excited Brian Batt was in there, then I saw it was a couple years old .

Hoops
Aug 19, 2005


A Black Mark For Retarded Posting

http://www.amctv.com/shows/mad-men/...26#/finalresult

Just a stupid little quiz, but I got them all right so I'm the best

OctaviusBeaver
Apr 30, 2009

Say what now?


Sal must have been bored out of his mind.

Pilli
Jul 3, 2011

Dogs have owners,
cats have staff



This picture deserves a prize and also should be official belated promotion stuff for S4.

Simstim
Mar 16, 2005

You just gave me a great idea buddy.

Pilli posted:

This picture deserves a prize and also should be official belated promotion stuff for S4.

Not enough garish suits to be a S4 promo.

Admiral Bosch
Apr 19, 2007
Who is Admiral Aken Bosch, and what is that old scoundrel up to?

So, I discovered this show when my friend made me watch the Season 5 finale. I really wish she hadn't, because I've been binging through every episode. Holy gently caress, what an incredible piece of television.

pigdog
Apr 23, 2004


So I bought L.A. Noire from the Steam sale and had been playing the hell out of it. I'm sure it's old news, but that game has half the cast of Mad Men literally acting in it. Starring our very own Ken Cosgrove, with actors of Harry, Paul, that annoying comedian from Season 2ish?, and even Pete making an appearance. The game is good and all the Mad Men stuff actually makes the game's 40es noir vibe even better. The game is on sale at just €7.50 or whatever amount of dollars on Steam right now; go get it.

pigdog fucked around with this message at Jul 18, 2012 around 21:28

Rageaholic Monkey
May 31, 2005

the sea was angry that day, my friends


When I first played it, I had never seen Mad Men. Then I played it again after binging through Seasons 1-4 on Netflix, and it was pretty jarring that 2nd time.

Cpt. Spring Types
Feb 19, 2004

Wait, what?

I'm pretty sure I remember Peggy having a minor role in that as well, only it's probably one of the side missions.

Misogynist
Jul 14, 2003

hubthumping

pigdog posted:

So I bought L.A. Noire from the Steam sale and had been playing the hell out of it. I'm sure it's old news, but that game has half the cast of Mad Men literally acting in it. Starring our very own Ken Cosgrove, with actors of Harry, Paul, that annoying comedian from Season 2ish?, and even Pete making an appearance. The game is good and all the Mad Men stuff actually makes the game's 40es noir vibe even better. The game is on sale at just €7.50 or whatever amount of dollars on Steam right now; go get it.


Haha, that even looks like Cosgrove. (Unless that's what you were getting at.)

Grem
Mar 29, 2004

You see, at the time I was misquoted. I never said 'The Super-man exists and he is American', what I said was '*God* exists and he is a 3rd Street Saint'



I think they used the actor's faces almost exactly. It's like a Mad Men detective game.

cbirdsong
Sep 8, 2004

Commodore of the Apocalypso

Grem posted:

I think they used the actor's faces almost exactly. It's like a Mad Men detective game.

Yeah they pretty much just photographed their faces and mapped them to 3D models:



Because the faces weren't captured while the actors were actually moving around, it can be a little weird sometimes, but because most of the game is interrogation scenes, it mostly works.

prom candy
Dec 16, 2005

best alliance in hip-hop, waiyyohhh

The game is kind of a dud (really repetitive and not very interactive) but it was definitely cool seeing/hearing those actors in it.

DasNeonLicht
Dec 25, 2005

"...and the light is on and burning brightly for the masses."

prom candy posted:

The game is kind of a dud (really repetitive and not very interactive) but it was definitely cool seeing/hearing those actors in it.

I wouldn't call it a dud -- more of a let-down. It was genuinely exciting and stimulating for me for a good while, and the story at some points was actually quite riveting. Overall, a flawed game, but worth a play if you're interested and can find a good deal.

Edit: I think one of my favorite parts was the music. Someone did a really good job on the scoring for the game.

Check it out if you're a fan of noir or mystery at all.

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bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

Yes join me


Mad Men got nominated for Outstanding Drama Series, Elisabeth Moss for Best Actress, John Hamm got nominated for Best Actor in a Drama and Best Guest in a comedy (BANJO), Jared Harris for Best Supporting Actor, Julia Ormond for Gest Guest, and Ben Feldman for Best Guest .

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