Astroman posted:

This right here is a pretty mindblowing Season 5 promo pic...though it might be a bit spoilery:

Aatrek posted:

I knew Don would never wear that tie!

Bobfromsales posted:

isk posted:

That's exactly what I was thinking, that Draper was channeling Gordon Gekko with that gray hair and suit/tie combination.

Stupidly excited for season 5, and I saw season 4 recently enough to remember most of the threads (and to recognize Megan as a Russian prostitute from an episode of Life, then Kinsey as a cat-loving manbaby from another episode).

If Bert Cooper is back, I take it as a good sign that the reports of Robert Morse's declining health were either premature or entirely inaccurate. He never has a major role longterm, but even in his socks it's an important one because he's quirky and insightful and a reminder of the old guard that's not always so relevant anymore.

Astroman posted:

Mad Men On The Couch by Dr. Stephanie Newman

Qmass posted:

Am I the only one that finds this odd? Of course fictional characters have a psychological profile but isn't it created inadvertently or by applying pop-pscyhology thus making a professional assessment kind of retarded? I guess what im wondering is - Do writers and actors actually have the ability to intentionally create a profile with depth and consistency that makes analysing it a worthwhile endeavour?

SpaceMost posted:

At best it's cutesy popcorn reading, at worst it's thinly-veiled narcissism.

courtney_beth posted:

I hope we finally get to see Pete's daughter. Actually, I'll be happy with any scenes featuring Pete.

OnlyJuanMon posted:

Pete Campbell is the best part of this show....and I really couldn't tell you why.

isk posted:

If Bert Cooper is back, I take it as a good sign that the reports of Robert Morse's declining health were either premature or entirely inaccurate. He never has a major role longterm, but even in his socks it's an important one because he's quirky and insightful and a reminder of the old guard that's not always so relevant anymore.

OnlyJuanMon posted:

Pete Campbell is the best part of this show....and I really couldn't tell you why.

bobkatt013 posted:

Since you go from hating him in the first season to slowly really liking him. Also when you are used to him being Conor from Angel you see it was the writing not the actor.

Vanderdeath posted:

Hell's Bells has entered my vocabulary thanks to Pete Campbell.

Coleman posted:

So I finally wound up getting my Netflix back, and after the insistence of numerous friends, I watched through Breaking Bad. It was good, but I was kind of forcing myself through it because of how many people said it was the best show they've seen.

Then I watched Mad Men, and I absolutely sped through it because I was really enjoying it. I've now finished through Season 4, and it really is just a fantastic show.

But I have one pressing question, namely for those who watched the show as it aired new on AMC.

During Season 4, did they run through some kind of "Who will Don Marry?" campaign? I had accidentally seen on Wiki during the first season that Betty had a new last name, so I figured they would get divorced. Then a friend of mine (thinking I had caught up) casually mentioned "Dons new fiancee", so I obviously knew it was coming. But in watching the 4th season, I have a feeling they might have had a campaign of the sort anyway. At the very first episode of Season 4 (again a friend of mine telling me he would be engaged by the end of the season), I thought it was going to be the Doctor. Typical TV, insert a new female role, gotta be her. But the more the season went on, and he's involved in serious, semi-serious, and casual relationships with numerous different women, it felt like they must've played off that angle.

When Sally runs away to Dons office, and is running from Don, after she trips and runs into Megans arms, I thought it might be her, but that it was a little... soft for the show. I even thought it might be Betty for a while. She gets so upset at seeing him on a date, and they turn Henry from lovesick random guy, to unlikable schmuck, I thought they might give Betty one of those "the grass is always greener" storylines.

It was brilliantly done, either way. But I'm just curious if that's the angle they were trying to go for, or if it just sort of happened.

JaundiceDave posted:

You mean like a marketing thing for the show? Not in the slightest. Matt Weiner is famously tight lipped about spoilers and the advertising for the show never contains any information about the actual plot for the season.

I'm not sure if you saw, since I'm assuming you watched on netflix, but even the scenes from next week at the end of each episode consist of about ten seconds of random snippets of dialogue that give away nothing about the content of the episode. Personally, I'm guessing that AMC forces weiner to do a scenes from next week and he just makes it as obscure as possible.

Coleman posted:

Yeah I watched on Netflix, so I wouldn't have seen those even if I wanted to. (I almost never watched the Next Week On...s). But that's interesting, seems like such an odd way to portray the season without a campaign, "who shot Mr Burns" kinda thing.

JaundiceDave posted:

I mean, look at the current campaign for this season. It only uses footage from old seasons

Coleman posted:

I haven't even seen that, yet. I literally just finished season 4 and didn't want any more spoilers than I already had.

OnlyJuanMon posted:

Pete Campbell is the best part of this show....and I really couldn't tell you why.

Stark posted:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NByKpaX7MFw

This is why.

Pinwiz11 posted:

I always thought this is why:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOQYDmpRUzQ

bobkatt013 posted:

Since you go from hating him in the first season to slowly really liking him. Also when you are used to him being Conor from Angel you see it was the writing not the actor.

kaworu posted:

I never saw Angel and wasn't particularly familiar with Vincent Kartheiser prior to Mad Men (I mostly knew about him because gay author Dennis Cooper had a creepy crush on him prior to his Mad Men fame and would make sexually suggestive comments about him in some of his books) but I don't think it's particularly fair to say that it's ALL about the writing. I remember Weiner stating how much he initially hated the Pete Campbell character as originally written, and never saw much potential in him at all. Then when he saw how Kartheiser managed to imbue the character with all this depth and charisma, it completely changed the way he saw the character and caused him to take him more seriously and make him a much more major part of the show.

So I'd definitely say that Kartheiser himself is responsible for a great deal of the Pete Campbell magic. And I mean, so much of that character isn't the writing but the physicality - his body language and his comportment and his tone of voice and all that stuff.

bobkatt013 posted:

That is what I am saying. On Angel he is one of the most hated characters. I was saying that it was the writing on angel that made him bad not the actor.