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sportsgenius86 posted:Except this time Pete has a point Yep. It's an incredibly dysfunctional environment. Pete is right, he shouldn't have to fight Roger. They're both partners, and Pete is bringing in a ton of business. He almost left before, and it was only the idea that he was a partner that kept him around. But Roger won't even treat him with the respect of a partner. And if he left now, they'd be under.
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Party Plane Jones posted:Sepinwall said it best, Pete has never been the most well-rounded character of the bunch, but this is turning into Season 1 Petulant Pete. Hopefully they dial it down a bit. Except Pete is completely right.
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JaundiceDave posted:could you gif lane dancing Suffer through Peggy and her boyfriend. 
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sportsgenius86 posted:Except this time Pete has a point From what I recall, season (3? 4? No idea what we're on now) Pete had a bit more tact. As he is now he's shooting himself in the foot in the way he approaches people.
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Wow could Peggy look more bored during that?
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Pete will whine and pout to office people if he doesn't get his way. We already know that Roger will purposely gently caress up business just to be a petulant dick. Everyone knows Pete is right but they know there's nothing they can do about Roger so they're left to tell Pete he's screwed.
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Party Plane Jones posted:From what I recall, season (3? 4? No idea what we're on now) Pete had a bit more tact. As he is now he's shooting himself in the foot in the way he approaches people. Pete had no leverage before. He has leverage now.
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Party Plane Jones posted:From what I recall, season (3? 4? No idea what we're on now) Pete had a bit more tact. As he is now he's shooting himself in the foot in the way he approaches people. It was one episode, lets not act like Pete has completely regressed because of this episode. He was well within his rights to be pissy the entire episode because he's not being rewarded for exceptional work. I think we'll see him ascend a lot this season, maybe to a point where he and Don are close working partners. Maybe something like how Don and Roger were in the earlier seasons. I do wonder if the show will display Roger getting his act together at some point. It would be a waste if he just became a running gag, the rich guy in the office who doesn't actually do anything. His character needs...SOMETHING.
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JaundiceDave posted:could you gif lane dancing Someone else will likely do a better version, but I found this on tumblr:  
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So, this is June '66 then, given the age of Joan's baby. The Goldwater in '68 sign in the Y&R window in the open threw me, I thought they jumped ahead three years. And then Sally sounding like Harvey Firestein seemed to confirm that, but I guess it's been less than a year (even though it's been two irl). Since it's been so long, could someone refresh my memory about where we saw Lane and his wife last season. I remember her going back to England and it seemed like maybe the Price marriage was over. So she moved back to NY then? Also, Peggy's boyfriend is the same guy from the hipster party that got raided right? Did they get together in a relationship last season or is that something that happenedover the interim?
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zoux posted:So, this is June '66 then, given the age of Joan's baby. The Goldwater in '68 sign in the Y&R window in the open threw me, I thought they jumped ahead three years. And then Sally sounding like Harvey Firestein seemed to confirm that, but I guess it's been less than a year (even though it's been two irl). Both of these things happened in the interim, much like Don's marriage.
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I accidentally an egalitarian.
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zoux posted:So, this is June '66 then, given the age of Joan's baby. The Goldwater in '68 sign in the Y&R window in the open threw me, I thought they jumped ahead three years. And then Sally sounding like Harvey Firestein seemed to confirm that, but I guess it's been less than a year (even though it's been two irl). He went over to England to get his house in order. He came back over due to lucky strike and it seemed that she was moving back over. Also yes that is the guy from the party and they got into a relationship after her lesbian friend had them meet again. /\ /\ /\ At one point last season he came into the office pretending to be a delivery man and Peggy called him her boyfriend.
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Actually, I'm pretty sure both of them happened in the last couple episodes of season 4. I know for a fact that Peggy slept with Abe in one of them. And I'm pretty sure that Lane said he had convinced his wife to return to England, though she hasn't returned to being on-screen until tonight.
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kylejack posted:Yeah, but when people say that Pete's prank makes up for him acting "bitchy" it makes me suspect they're a bit like him.
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| # ? Mar 26, 2012 04:32 |
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I don't know if this was intentional or not, but it seemed like they really toned down the amount of smoking and drinking. Probably a good thing since it used to be cartoonishly excessive.
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SpaceMost posted:How was he acting bitchy this episode? He's 100% in the right; Sterling is a dinosaur who's being kept on life support out of loyalty. At this point he's basically a washed-out bro who still hits on high school girls and always gets the first beer because of that wicked touchdown he scored in '86. No that wicked touchdown his father made. Also remember when he destroyed the chance to do business with Honda.
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Big Piece O poo poo posted:I don't know if this was intentional or not, but it seemed like they really toned down the amount of smoking and drinking. I noticed Don picked up smoking again after quitting last season.
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Party Plane Jones posted:I noticed Don picked up smoking again after quitting last season. I think he started smoking again like one or two episodes after The Summer Man. He didn't quit, he just had a momentary reflection that didn't seem to do him a whole lot.
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Azure_Horizon posted:I think he started smoking again like one or two episodes after The Summer Man. He didn't quit, he just had a momentary reflection that didn't seem to do him a whole lot. Yeah, I double checked and he mentions to the Cancer Society in Tomorrowland that he still smokes, you just don't see it for the rest of the episode. Having a 17 month gap between seasons screws with memory.
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Man, was Harry always this big of a douche? I liked him the best for reasons not related to the show (met Rich Sommer once at a board game convention, really nice guy) but drat did I wince at his character this episode. It could be the 17 month lapse in memory, but I always thought he was a more respectful guy than that.
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Rusty Kettle posted:Man, was Harry always this big of a douche? I'd say cheating on your wife is pretty loving douchey, yes.
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What song played at the beginning when Sally woke up? Great organ sound and interesting chords, whatever it was.
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It's some instrumental version of "Ebb Tide." (i know that because phil spector and the righteous brothers did a killer version of that song)
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Abel Wingnut posted:What song played at the beginning when Sally woke up? Great organ sound and interesting chords, whatever it was.
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| # ? Mar 26, 2012 05:41 |
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I enjoyed the extra long episode tonight. I hope there's a little more payoff to Pryce being creepy with Dolores. I laughed out loud at his "the books are practically held together with spit!" "You're an old man, you just get to watch..." *booty* 
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Y Kant Ozma Post posted:I'd say cheating on your wife is pretty loving douchey, yes. Oh yea. I forgot about that. Didn't he immediately regret it and become depressive after that or something?
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sportsgenius86 posted:If you thought that was boring, maybe Mad Men isn't your thing. Really enjoyed the last few seasons, I guess I just expected something a bit more after so long.
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Rusty Kettle posted:Oh yea. I forgot about that. Didn't he immediately regret it and become depressive after that or something? Yes he did. Harry's arch has been the polar opposite of all the other mid level execs who started off together in season 1. Pete and Ken are growing up after starting off as frat boys. Are they perfect? Christ no. Harry on the other hand starts off married, settled, and boring when surrounded by the other frat guys. I noticed the big change in season 4 where he was a wannabe playboy without any of the skills. It's like he's having a mid life crisis 10 years too early. He seems to desire the freedom that everyone else enjoyed in season 1. Yes, he had his "affair" but it certainly wasn't something he was proud of. I think season 4/5 Harry would be very fine having an affair.
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Rusty Kettle posted:Oh yea. I forgot about that. Didn't he immediately regret it and become depressive after that or something? He immediately told her and started sleeping at work. Harry Crane seeing Don late at night while in his underwear is part of the last episode of the first season, The Wheel, from what I recall.
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If I'm remembering right, Harry was supposed to kill himself after the Carousel pitch because he'd ruined his marriage and didn't have it in him to be a womanizing creep like everyone else. Wiener liked Somer or thought it was too on-the-nose or something, so he changed it. It's mentioned in the season one commentary.
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I'm really glad they didn't go with the suicide option because I think it would have been too much for the show. Wiener has said before that real life isn't that dramatic and that he didn't want his show to be either. But on the flip side I don't think Harry has done anything worth a drat in the last two seasons. I don't like how he's just the funny loser around the office. His character is on the same line as Ken's but Ken has grown leaps and bounds. I don't think Wiener knows what he wants to do with Harry at this point but can't find a way to write him out either. They should have left him at SC at the end of season 3, it would have given them more room to bring in a new character.
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Pete owns, this show owns. Goddamn I am so happy it's back.
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Rexicon1 posted:Really enjoyed the last few seasons, I guess I just expected something a bit more after so long. I dunno, I feel this is exactly the way show was the past few seasons. I think the time between S4 and S5 may have altered your perception of what the show really is. trigger: I also love my Ducks.
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For the anecdote, the bizarre word Megan utters just before Roger, Jane, Don and her enter the apparment is "cālisse" - a French Canadian curse word so bad you'd never say it in front of your mother. I had quite a laugh at the jacket Pete was wearing at the party. That's a good way of showing how Pete is avant-garde, as those jackets would be all over the place in the seventies but very rare back in 1966. Extra popcorn will be bought next week to watch miserable Betty being miserable. I'm also expecting a Sally rebellion this season, so the popcorn budget is being upped right here and now.
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zoux posted:So, this is June '66 then, given the age of Joan's baby. The Goldwater in '68 sign in the Y&R window in the open threw me, I thought they jumped ahead three years.
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The season has to build to something, colour me delighted for establishing a lot of possible drama to come.
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literallyincredible posted:. Going by his history, I'm guessing Lane would be cool with having a token minority secretary, especially if she's hot.
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Pilli posted:I had quite a laugh at the jacket Pete was wearing at the party. That's a good way of showing how Pete is avant-garde, as those jackets would be all over the place in the seventies but very rare back in 1966.
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Josh Lyman posted:As much as peeople swoon over Don and Roger, I'm a big fan of Pete's wardrobe. That jacket looked like Pete raided Herb Tarlek's closet.
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