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Drunk Canuck posted:Haha silly Betty Betty's like that kid in elementary school that always was "are you gonna finish that?"
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| # ? Apr 2, 2012 03:04 |
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I know there were awkward negotiations to bring the show back... did they have to drop a character an episode like Scrubs did in its last (real) season to save money? No Betty last week, no Joan this week.
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| # ? Apr 2, 2012 03:04 |
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Astroman posted:"Stop me at 3 ice creams. This is 1." Ouch. That's just cold.
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| # ? Apr 2, 2012 03:04 |
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I knew how that entire end scene was going to play out as soon as I saw the icecream. Sally is totally afraid she is going to end up a whale like her mom.
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| # ? Apr 2, 2012 03:05 |
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"Who the hell are The Tradewinds?" I wonder?
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| # ? Apr 2, 2012 03:06 |
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Astroman posted:"Stop me at 3 ice creams. This is 1." Awesome. And drat, Pete has completely outmaneuvered Roger and he knows it.
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| # ? Apr 2, 2012 03:07 |
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Sigh. The Romney joke is going to be a full fledged "thing" tomorrow, isn't it? Like, front page of Huffington Post, no less than three outraged segments on Fox News thing.
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| # ? Apr 2, 2012 03:08 |
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AndrewP posted:Awesome. Pete is pulling out all the stops
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| # ? Apr 2, 2012 03:08 |
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Nog posted:"Who the hell are The Tradewinds?" Nope. That Wikipedia Styx article posted:In 1965, the name "Tradewinds" was changed to TW4 after another band called The Trade Winds broke through nationally. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trade_Winds  They were just peaking right around the time of this episode, though peaking is relative because their highest charting singles didn't crack the top 30. They don't last much longer.
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| # ? Apr 2, 2012 03:09 |
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Tender Bender posted:I know there were awkward negotiations to bring the show back... did they have to drop a character an episode like Scrubs did in its last (real) season to save money? No Betty last week, no Joan this week.
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| # ? Apr 2, 2012 03:09 |
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Y Kant Ozma Post posted:I dislike Betty but it's funny how reading incredibly vitriolic stuff in here makes me want to side with her. It's pretty loving weird in this thread. I wasn't being "incredibly vitrolic." I said she's not a sympathetic character, and she isn't. That said, I'm glad they're not going to kill her off, because she's important and she adds a lot to the show. It should be really interesting to see how her relationship with Sally changes, if at all, and how Henry will react to discovering that she's still reaching out to Don for emotional reassurance. Still really liking Megan.
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| # ? Apr 2, 2012 03:13 |
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Think I'm going to bail out for this season and wait for the DVDs or something. The commercials are really bugging me and the way the plots are spreading out isn't working with the weekly format. This is a show I need to just sit down and cruise through a couple episodes at a time.
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| # ? Apr 2, 2012 03:13 |
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skinny white boy posted:Think I'm going to bail out for this season and wait for the DVDs or something. The commercials are really bugging me and the way the plots are spreading out isn't working with the weekly format. This is a show I need to just sit down and cruise through a couple episodes at a time. I think this episode in particular felt really aimless. Not bad, but somehow unsatisfying.
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| # ? Apr 2, 2012 03:20 |
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I've always felt really sorry for Betty. She had a taste of independence and is educated, got dropped into a Good Housewife role, Don was a dog, and...I don't know what she wants, but I hope she gets it. I know its cliche and part of it was her thyroid, but something as blatant as her putting on weight is about as in your face as you can get about her being unsatisfied. That being said... Astroman posted:"Stop me at 3 ice creams. This is 1." 
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| # ? Apr 2, 2012 03:24 |
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Schwarbage posted:I think this episode in particular felt really aimless. Not bad, but somehow unsatisfying. Nothing really happened that will have any lasting consequences. SCDP hired that Jewish guy, and that was about it. And Pete did something douchey, which happens in every episode.
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| # ? Apr 2, 2012 03:25 |
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Hostile Rabbi posted:And Pete did something douchey, which happens in every episode. I love seeing Pete get one over Roger, but like someone said earlier its goign to come to a head and he's going to go out in a big destructive wave of glory.
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| # ? Apr 2, 2012 03:28 |
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Fooley posted:I've always felt really sorry for Betty. She had a taste of independence and is educated, got dropped into a Good Housewife role, Don was a dog, and...I don't know what she wants, but I hope she gets it. I know its cliche and part of it was her thyroid, but something as blatant as her putting on weight is about as in your face as you can get about her being unsatisfied.
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| # ? Apr 2, 2012 03:31 |
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Astroman posted:"It's always darkest before the Dawn" How did nobody else comment on this. Roger always has the best one-liners. Jesus.
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| # ? Apr 2, 2012 03:32 |
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Athenry posted:Before she became as despised as she is now, she was pretty sympathetic. Yeah, I remember the season 1 thread when she was shooting the pigeons after the neighbor had threatened their dog. Season 1 is really the height of her sympathetic side, she got too far into slapping kids in the later seasons. I did think that the character had turned a corner after Don finally dropped the Dick Whitman bombshell but that turned out to be an illusion very quickly.
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| # ? Apr 2, 2012 03:34 |
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Hostile Rabbi posted:Nothing really happened that will have any lasting consequences. SCDP hired that Jewish guy, and that was about it. And Pete did something douchey, which happens in every episode. My guess is that Betty will finally have a real arc this season and that this near death experience is what will ultimately lead her to start questioning her lot in life. Either that, or the ice cream scene is making the exact opposite point, that even after something like this, Betty is not capable of change or self improvement. Too early to tell though.
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| # ? Apr 2, 2012 03:38 |
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Simon Magus Says posted:Either that, or the ice cream scene is making the exact opposite point, that even after something like this, Betty is not capable of change or self improvement. Too early to tell though. I think it's this. Betty's shown herself time and again to be largely incapable of taking responsibility for her own actions/decisions. The fact that she was disappointed that her weight wasn't caused by cancer after getting the phonecall only reinforces this. She's basically a child. Just look at the way she pleaded with Don to tell her "everything will be all right". Maybe there's some sort of redemption arc planned for her this season, but I don't see it.
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| # ? Apr 2, 2012 03:43 |
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This was the first average episode of Mad Men I can think of. I enjoyed it, but ultimately it felt like filler. Such a weird episode.
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| # ? Apr 2, 2012 03:47 |
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Pete is the best. The whole Mohawk scene was just pure  and I loved it.
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| # ? Apr 2, 2012 03:49 |
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Schwarbage posted:I think it's this. Betty's shown herself time and again to be largely incapable of taking responsibility for her own actions/decisions. The fact that she was disappointed that her weight wasn't caused by cancer after getting the phonecall only reinforces this. She's basically a child. Just look at the way she pleaded with Don to tell her "everything will be all right". Maybe there's some sort of redemption arc planned for her this season, but I don't see it. The "Say the thing you always say" moment was really touching while at the same time hammering this point home. I want to go out on a limb and say she'll get the pills, become a mess and piss off lurch even more, because having her in a fat suit probably isn't very fun at all. I don't like Bets but I don't hate her, and having her slowly become (even more?) manic on speed would be one direction they could go, though it might be a tad stale.
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| # ? Apr 2, 2012 03:50 |
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Simon Magus Says posted:My guess is that Betty will finally have a real arc this season and that this near death experience is what will ultimately lead her to start questioning her lot in life. Added to that, maybe she can learn to just be happy being a little overweight but still loved by Henry.  Honestly, it's not the worst thing in the world to be slightly overweight. Society and Henry's mother are dogging her about it, but Henry is literally telling her, a la Johnny Sack in The Sopranos "I don't care. I love you anyway." If she can accept that, it would be a good first step to accepting herself and maybe finding a place in the world that makes her happy, whether that's a job or being Henry's wife and a mother or whatever. And if she's happy with herself, she'll be less self centered and nicer to the kids and Henry, thus ending a lot of the "Betty's a horrible person" feelings a lot of viewers have.
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| # ? Apr 2, 2012 03:51 |
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Himuro posted:This was the first average episode of Mad Men I can think of. I enjoyed it, but ultimately it felt like filler. Such a weird episode. I had the exact same feeling about Three Sundays from Season 2. Such an underwhelming episode.
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| # ? Apr 2, 2012 03:53 |
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It wasn't the greatest of episodes but they've introduced 2 pretty significant new supporting characters that we're likely to see plenty of for the entire rest of the season at least. How does that count as filler?
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| # ? Apr 2, 2012 03:56 |
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Astroman posted:"Stop me at 3 ice creams. This is 1." This really oughta be the new thread title quote.
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| # ? Apr 2, 2012 04:14 |
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FateoMcSkippy posted:Pete is the best. The whole Mohawk scene was just pure If you gave a tapered haircut we'd have the perfect Pete emote.
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| # ? Apr 2, 2012 05:31 |
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pete campbell owns
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| # ? Apr 2, 2012 06:16 |
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Can anyone identify the song in the credits after Betty eats the ice cream? \/\/\/ Thanks! Digital Scumbag fucked around with this message at Apr 2, 2012 around 06:22 |
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I am 16 going on 17
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| # ? Apr 2, 2012 06:21 |
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I got the impression that Betty was lying about the call, and that her cancer could be malignant but she just does not want anyone to know. It feels like the whole scene with her getting lunch with her friend was focused on her friend talking about how she has not told anyone and she wants her husband to just tell her kids she got hit by a car, as well as just wanting to jump in and sink to the bottom as fast as possible. The coincidence of her husband receiving another call that allowed her to answer the phone seems extremely relevant since it gave Betty the opportunity to lie when they could have just as easily had him answer the phone for the good news without it changing much of the scene (unless they really wanted to get the Romney jab in). Plus she had that second sundae, so maybe her weight loss goal no longer matters to her anymore.
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| # ? Apr 2, 2012 08:04 |
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I really liked that episode, it was hard to come out and blow away the first episode of the season because honestly that was a great episode. I sort of wish the Betty cancer arc went a bit further and didn't end so quickly, but at least we have her obesity. 
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| # ? Apr 2, 2012 08:05 |
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Pete is just getting pushier and pushier. God drat.
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| # ? Apr 2, 2012 08:07 |
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I'd really like to see some Betty vs Megan action going. Megan dropping some ice burns on Betty would warm my heart. Also, watching this show must be extremely uncomfortable if you are a girl. I'm a guy and I cringe sometimes with the blatant sexist comments and situations.
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| # ? Apr 2, 2012 08:08 |
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Enigma89 posted:I'd really like to see some Betty vs Megan action going. Megan dropping some ice burns on Betty would warm my heart. With this season dealing with race, I imagine it would also be uncomfortable for black fans, too. We'll see how far they go with it.
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| # ? Apr 2, 2012 08:18 |
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Enigma89 posted:I really liked that episode, it was hard to come out and blow away the first episode of the season because honestly that was a great episode. I sort of wish the Betty cancer arc went a bit further and didn't end so quickly, but at least we have her obesity.
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Pain of Mind posted:I got the impression that Betty was lying about the call, and that her cancer could be malignant but she just does not want anyone to know. It feels like the whole scene with her getting lunch with her friend was focused on her friend talking about how she has not told anyone and she wants her husband to just tell her kids she got hit by a car, as well as just wanting to jump in and sink to the bottom as fast as possible. The coincidence of her husband receiving another call that allowed her to answer the phone seems extremely relevant since it gave Betty the opportunity to lie when they could have just as easily had him answer the phone for the good news without it changing much of the scene (unless they really wanted to get the Romney jab in). Plus she had that second sundae, so maybe her weight loss goal no longer matters to her anymore. That's interesting, and it would make more sense than bringing up the cancer thing only to drop it again in the same episode. It could also explain the ice cream. If she knows it's the cancer making her fat, she might as well eat all the ice cream. Enigma89 posted:Also, watching this show must be extremely uncomfortable if you are a girl. I'm a guy and I cringe sometimes with the blatant sexist comments and situations. Yeah, like when they call women girls.
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kylejack posted:That's interesting, and it would make more sense than bringing up the cancer thing only to drop it again in the same episode. It could also explain the ice cream. If she knows it's the cancer making her fat, she might as well eat all the ice cream. Seems unlikely to me, given her response -- immediately being upset about her weight gain situation, lashing out her mother in law, etc. Also, I just don't see Betty as being able to hide something like that (cancer diagnosis) from everyone. It would seem very out of character.
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