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Himuro
Jan 13, 2007

by Y Kant Ozma Post


Godammit Roger.

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Himuro
Jan 13, 2007

by Y Kant Ozma Post


It thought there were gonna be girls here.

Himuro
Jan 13, 2007

by Y Kant Ozma Post


Bert has the best one liners.

Himuro
Jan 13, 2007

by Y Kant Ozma Post


Holy poo poo Don. And he seemed to be doing so well.

Himuro
Jan 13, 2007

by Y Kant Ozma Post


Rageaholic Monkey posted:

Never seen shaving cream like that before. Oh 60s

That's how I shave!

Himuro
Jan 13, 2007

by Y Kant Ozma Post


Lane is desperate to dip his stick. Jeez.

Himuro
Jan 13, 2007

by Y Kant Ozma Post


Harry is a cocky rear end in a top hat.

Himuro
Jan 13, 2007

by Y Kant Ozma Post


Poor Megan.

Himuro
Jan 13, 2007

by Y Kant Ozma Post


Where is an update on Betty?

Himuro
Jan 13, 2007

by Y Kant Ozma Post


Rageaholic Monkey posted:

I haven't missed her once in the entire hour and 45 minutes so far of this episode, so the fewer of these the better.

But more Betty means more Sally.

Himuro
Jan 13, 2007

by Y Kant Ozma Post


I don't know what you're talking about.

Himuro
Jan 13, 2007

by Y Kant Ozma Post


10 minutes left? Less commercials please.

Himuro
Jan 13, 2007

by Y Kant Ozma Post


What the gently caress

Himuro
Jan 13, 2007

by Y Kant Ozma Post


I like the cut to Pete smiling in his new office after the fact

Himuro
Jan 13, 2007

by Y Kant Ozma Post


This show is amazing.

Himuro
Jan 13, 2007

by Y Kant Ozma Post


bobkatt013 posted:

I love how they are forced to become socially progressive not due to believing it but because of outside forces, like loosing lucky strikes and Roger being petty.

Historically, for a lot of businesses during that era, that seems to be far the course.

Himuro
Jan 13, 2007

by Y Kant Ozma Post


Party Plane Jones posted:

Sepinwall said it best, Pete has never been the most well-rounded character of the bunch, but this is turning into Season 1 Petulant Pete. Hopefully they dial it down a bit.

Except Pete is completely right.

Himuro
Jan 13, 2007

by Y Kant Ozma Post


cletepurcel posted:

Neat fact I haven't seen mentioned: the Y&R incident actually happened, right down to the dialogue and time.

Can you expound upon it?

Himuro
Jan 13, 2007

by Y Kant Ozma Post


Why would they have Lane swipe money from the company when Duck basically did that very thing, except legally? It would be a retread of something the show has already visited.

Himuro
Jan 13, 2007

by Y Kant Ozma Post


I didn't get a pimp vibe at all. A pimp would dress more flashy than that.

Himuro
Jan 13, 2007

by Y Kant Ozma Post


Fragmented posted:

No she called him. Ok new theory, the hot chick and "pimp" are Russian spys. They left the wallet for Lane to find(the cabbie was in on it too).

End game? Remember Pete going after all the clients making rockets in Cali? SCDP is going to be used as the front of a global communism takeover of American advertising calling it now.

If this were on the networks this wouldn't be much of a stretch.

Himuro
Jan 13, 2007

by Y Kant Ozma Post


Fooley posted:

I've always thought Pete doesn't seem as bad as some of the other characters because he takes a more practical stance on race than some of the others. I'm not saying deep down he hates whoever, but with Admiral and Honda, he see's it as more of a business opportunity than a chance for overall equality. Its a step in the right direction and its more progressive than some characters on the show, but it seems more out of business than him trying to also move ahead race relations.

It would be interesting to see someone on the show become more of an activist though. Actually believe it, and not the proto-hipster Kinsey was.

EDIT: I just realized that's pretty much what you said. But yeah, that's what I've taken away from him.

I find Pete's stance to be the most realistic in terms of history. Businesses were forced to work with minorities and very often, not because they wanted to either, but because they either had to or it expanded their business for survival.

The mistake many people make is the assumption that all civil rights progression was made because people were legitimately interested in helping minorities. When money is involved, peoples views can, and will, be bought.

This doesn't really make him "progressive" of course, but it definitely makes him more forward thinking than the rest, a trait that will serve him well in the 70's.

Himuro fucked around with this message at Mar 30, 2012 around 10:38

Himuro
Jan 13, 2007

by Y Kant Ozma Post


This was the first average episode of Mad Men I can think of. I enjoyed it, but ultimately it felt like filler. Such a weird episode.

Himuro
Jan 13, 2007

by Y Kant Ozma Post


Pain of Mind posted:

I got the impression that Betty was lying about the call, and that her cancer could be malignant but she just does not want anyone to know. It feels like the whole scene with her getting lunch with her friend was focused on her friend talking about how she has not told anyone and she wants her husband to just tell her kids she got hit by a car, as well as just wanting to jump in and sink to the bottom as fast as possible. The coincidence of her husband receiving another call that allowed her to answer the phone seems extremely relevant since it gave Betty the opportunity to lie when they could have just as easily had him answer the phone for the good news without it changing much of the scene (unless they really wanted to get the Romney jab in). Plus she had that second sundae, so maybe her weight loss goal no longer matters to her anymore.

I was thinking the same exact thing.

Himuro
Jan 13, 2007

by Y Kant Ozma Post


I finally watched last weeks ep. I missed it because holy gently caress, Sundays is my tv night. But I recorded it on dvr.

Good lord, that episode was ridiculous and the way they're setting up the characters and their struggles was nothing short of brilliant.

I am feeling so drat sad right now. Not Sally, not my Sally!

Himuro
Jan 13, 2007

by Y Kant Ozma Post


I missed what Lane explained about how his friend's wife found out about the fun night out? Why'd he tell her?

Himuro
Jan 13, 2007

by Y Kant Ozma Post


I love how direct they're taking the characters this season. Pete seemed to have a well adjusted family life (for the most part) before this season. This latest episode, he cries in an elevator and glares at a teenage girl getting finger banged by an young, hot jock he unsuccessfully coerced. Pete was utterly, devastatingly emasculated this episode. Which is funny, because I always thought that's the "ad" of life that Pete bought into.

Pete wants to be the big alpha male like Don Draper. He starts the show seducing Peggy not only for the thrill, but because he wants to literally be Don Draper - or at least, that's my interpretation. It makes the character communication between the two even more interesting tonight. Here Don is, Pete's ideal, and he won't bang a hooker. Five or so years ago when Pete joined Sterling Cooper, Don probably would have been all over that. And now, after Don successfully fixes Pete's pipes (haha), he makes him look like a buffoon by taking the moral high road and it stings like a bee. "That's rich coming from you."

This point is made even further by his prostitute scene where HE becomes the king for a while. Finally, Pete does something no one can fault him at.

And yet we see Pete fail, continuously, as he tries to achieve that Draper "ideal". One that probably never existed to begin with. We see Pete emasculated in every single area Don won over time and time again (remember the "fight" with the comedian in season 2? Don ended that quick.)

Such a thrilling episode. I don't remember the series treating the other characters like it would Don before, but they really pulled their punches this episode.

Also, a friend thinks that they're setting Sally up to be a coke whore. Anyone's thoughts on that? I think they're setting her up to be a hippie who - probably - takes copious amounts of drugs (thanks grandma!).

Himuro fucked around with this message at Apr 16, 2012 around 14:50

Himuro
Jan 13, 2007

by Y Kant Ozma Post


Harry posted:

Setting her up? What, in like 4 years? She's only 13 in real life, not sure what her age is on the show.

No, in adulthood.

Himuro
Jan 13, 2007

by Y Kant Ozma Post


That's what I told him!

Himuro
Jan 13, 2007

by Y Kant Ozma Post


Bishop posted:

E: I think it's pretty obvious that they are setting Sally up to be dysfunctional or rebellious in some way, but a coke whore? Thats er, way too specific if not a bit misogynistic.

Well, he's obviously joking and ribbing at the fact that a lot of the characters experience extreme lows, Don's hippie friend being a major example.

The point is that, the dialogue between Sally and her grandmother, and giving her drugs, he says it's signaling red flags and it's pretty hard to argue, especially since she [the grandmother] says the killer hated his mother. Henry's mother is a dreadful woman.

Himuro
Jan 13, 2007

by Y Kant Ozma Post


JaundiceDave posted:

"The Man with the Miniature Orchestra
by Dave Algonquin

There were phrases of Beethoven's ninth symphony that still made Coe cry. He always thought it had to do with the circumstances of the composition itself. He imagined Beethoven, deaf and soul-sick, his heart broken, scribbling furiously while death stood in the doorway, clipping his nails. Still, Coe thought, it might have been living in the country that was making him cry. It was killing him with its silence, and loneliness. Making everything ordinary, too beautiful to bear."

The episode ends with Pete looking on as drivers ed girl and mr handsome hook up in class, his face dimly lit by the light of the projection, his expression pitiably sad. The sountrack fades to the sound of a dripping faucet, and the episode ends.


Thanks for this. I was coming into this thread again specifically to ask for a transcript of the voice over at the end. Goddamn, Cosgrove.

Himuro
Jan 13, 2007

by Y Kant Ozma Post


Please make more posts, Posts. Because that post was interesting as it was informative.

Himuro
Jan 13, 2007

by Y Kant Ozma Post


Roger on acid?

Himuro
Jan 13, 2007

by Y Kant Ozma Post


I knew it but I didn't know it.

Himuro
Jan 13, 2007

by Y Kant Ozma Post


I want to see Don on shrooms.

Himuro
Jan 13, 2007

by Y Kant Ozma Post


Mad Men is kicking every tv show in the teeth these past three episodes, holy poo poo.

Himuro
Jan 13, 2007

by Y Kant Ozma Post


How far do you guys think Don drove?

Himuro
Jan 13, 2007

by Y Kant Ozma Post


What in the gently caress is with this season and dream sequences?

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Himuro
Jan 13, 2007

by Y Kant Ozma Post


Interlude posted:

What did Megan say? Every time we fight...



She said every time they fight they sink even further than before. That's not word for word, but it was the general message.

Guess I was beaten.

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