Mad Men: "This doom and gloom - I'm tired of it!"

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Oh grumpy Don, you're so grumpy.

# ¿ Mar 26, 2012 01:59

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# ¿ May 21, 2013 23:54

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BAHAHAHA SMOOTH HARRY

# ¿ Mar 26, 2012 02:15

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thrakkorzog posted:

I had a constitutional law professor argue that part of the reason Plessy v. Ferguson got all the way to the Supreme Court was because the railroad companies hated having to deal with the separate but equal crap. Since having separate cars for Whites and Blacks screwed up their bottom line.

That is relatively widely accepted as part of the reason the case got there, my constitutional law professor at UChicago also mentioned it. I agree that a big part of Pete's progressivism on the race issue comes from his raw desire to do better business, but I don't think it necessarily detracts from his character. After all, if he's deigning to believe that the black market is substantial, he certainly considers them to be solidly human - which is a hell of a lot better than some people thought back then.

# ¿ Apr 1, 2012 05:41

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BrooklynBruiser posted:

The Brit knows nothing about baseball, so he cheers for the wrong NY team. Makes sense to me!

Actually, since he's associated with a hard-fighting young underdog like SCDP it makes perfect sense that he's a Mets fan. If he worked at a hulking dinosaur like McCann Erickson or BBDO then him being a Yankees fan would be OK.

# ¿ Apr 8, 2012 20:37

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Chiming in to say this is a fantastic episode.

# ¿ Apr 9, 2012 02:40

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GO AWAY HARLOT

# ¿ Apr 9, 2012 02:44

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No Don noooooooooo

# ¿ Apr 9, 2012 02:44

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I hate you sometimes, Don.

# ¿ Apr 9, 2012 02:45

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That owned.

# ¿ Apr 9, 2012 03:00

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Joanie

# ¿ Apr 9, 2012 03:01

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Best episode since The Suitcase, albeit for wholly different reasons.

# ¿ Apr 9, 2012 03:06

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Y Kant Ozma Post posted:

I think it was "I'm sorry for putting you out" or something?

That's exactly what it said.

# ¿ Apr 9, 2012 03:06

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They're repeating the episode at 11 if you want to watch it and missed it.

# ¿ Apr 9, 2012 03:14

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E the Shaggy posted:

These Subway commercial ideas on the Pitch are AWFUL.

If this is supposed to grab people it'll die on the vine. This sucks.

Mad Men owns precisely because t maintains a mystique about the industry.

# ¿ Apr 9, 2012 03:23

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You kidding? Ginsberg is the man and appears to have a ton of room for development.

# ¿ Apr 9, 2012 05:08

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Regarding Ginsberg being future Don, that seems to be the case.

I mean, I don't think Don is beyond recovery when it comes to him being out of touch, but I do think it's kind of inevitable that he shifts into a (more productive version of) Roger mode as the series moves forward. So Ginsberg and Peggy competing for the new accolades when it comes to creativity in SCDP makes pretty good sense.

I don't really think Ginsberg freaking out about the media on the Speck murders is meant to be anything more than it is at face value: an indication that he's a pretty sensitive and sometimes touchy guy. The Cinderella pitch is an indication that the dude, for all of his supposed genius, don't necessarily know what women want so well. Even in Mad Men, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

# ¿ Apr 9, 2012 05:34

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The sniper's name was Charles Whitman. It wasn't too close to home, it WAS home.

# ¿ Apr 16, 2012 02:34

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I like how prior to this season everyone was pretty warm on Pete.

The writers sure have put the kibosh on that in one fell 51 minute swoop, eh?

# ¿ Apr 16, 2012 03:07

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gargamale posted:

FIXED that for you. Don seems to be back in his pattern too. Maybe why he felt like playing wise man to Pete at the end.

I don't see that in the least. Don seems to be relatively content in my reading. I mean, my God, he's actually TRYING right now. He might see storm clouds on the horizon (Pete's "see where you are when your honeymoon is over…" bit) but I perceived his mood at the brothel not as irritation that he was confining himself by not cheating on Megan but as a genuine level of disinterest and mild bemusement at the events there.

For lack of a better word, I firmly think Don is finally maturing.

# ¿ Apr 16, 2012 06:31

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Roger is going to have a bad trip.

# ¿ Apr 23, 2012 02:23

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I am not pleased right now.

# ¿ Apr 23, 2012 02:44

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I did not enjoy that episode. I thought the pacing was good and the camerawork and plot-points were fine, but there was something...off about the execution.

# ¿ Apr 23, 2012 03:08

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cletepurcel posted:

The key question here with regards to Don: now that he (presumably) is going to actually give a poo poo about his job again, will it cause him to philander again? My guess is yes.

My guess is that they will tease it and play with it but Don, having appeared to have actually evolved somewhat, will end up remaining faithful. I honestly think I'd prefer that.

Then again, I thought they were going to keep on this newly calmed down Don until tonight happened, so what do I know?

# ¿ Apr 23, 2012 06:02

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Ginsberg is the loving man.

# ¿ May 7, 2012 02:40

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Ken Cosgrove (accounts!) is the only decent guy left in the drat office.

# ¿ May 28, 2012 02:19

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"He's a baby. He doesn't know that we all wish his father was dead."

# ¿ May 28, 2012 02:29

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Ginsberg with the Star Trek reference.

# ¿ May 28, 2012 02:33

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RUMSEN YAY

# ¿ May 28, 2012 02:34

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twistedmentat posted:

I saw it as more of him just using a military term.

Ordinarily I'd say that you're right, but Ginsberg's gotta be even more of a Trekkie than Kinsey.

# ¿ May 28, 2012 02:36

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GOD loving drat IT.

# ¿ May 28, 2012 02:45

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PotatoJudge posted:

$19,000 in '67 dollars is a big ol pile of cash

$130,000 per year in today's marketplace.

That's a fuckload of money for a female copywriter TODAY, let alone '67.

# ¿ May 28, 2012 02:56

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Wow.

# ¿ May 28, 2012 03:03

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Hamass posted:

If she didn't spread her legs for some fat gross Jaguar executive, there's no chance of her making partner. Gross Herb wanted to gently caress Joan, Joan demanded a significant promotion, now Herb has been hosed & Joan is partner with a 5% stake in the company. It's loving your way to the top, and the truth is Joan didn't have to pay Herb a visit.

That's absolute bullshit if you're positing that Joan doesn't deserve a piece of the company though. It's been diluted somewhat with the increased emphasis on Lane the last two seasons, but Joan has always been demonstrated to be incredibly competent, efficient, and vital to the organization - as much so as Don or Lane or Pete and probably moreso than Roger and Bert (their considerable capital aside).

# ¿ May 28, 2012 03:59

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Hamass posted:

Peggy can't eat the lobster or work on Jaguar because they don't respect a women's opinion, (despite everybody knowing Peggy is drat good at her job)

That isn't true worth a drat and certainly not the message the show is trying to send - if that was the case she wouldn't be going to an agency that is naming her chief copy writer and paying her almost half of what Don makes with about a third of his experience and a non-partner status.

# ¿ May 28, 2012 04:16

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Oh god lane lane lane nooo Lane

# ¿ Jun 4, 2012 02:08

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NOOOO LANE NOOOOO

# ¿ Jun 4, 2012 02:10

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Oh, Jesus. This firm is bleeding people left and right.

# ¿ Jun 4, 2012 02:12

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Goddamn it.

Goddamn it. Goddrat it. Lane has been my favorite.

# ¿ Jun 4, 2012 02:15

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"For the sex! It's always disappointing. For me, anyway."

# ¿ Jun 4, 2012 02:19

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# ¿ May 21, 2013 23:54

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NOT KEN COSGROVE (ACCOUNTS)!

# ¿ Jun 4, 2012 02:21

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