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 There's been demand for a spoiler thread for Mass Effect 3, similar to the one we had for Deus Ex: Human Revolution, for a few days now. There's a massive amount of blacked-out text in the ME3 thread, and  Obviously this thread contains no spoiler tags but plenty of serious spoilers for the game's ending, the various paths the characters can take, and every outcome your choices can have, for all three Mass Effect games. --- Here are your new loving endings!  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFzrRz6Dc0Y http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgYYYmzr7_A http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5J-QDTM8Zk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PThzItSAT5c abraham linksys fucked around with this message at Jun 26, 2012 around 14:25 |
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ASK ME ABOUT GETTING REAL MAD IN A SECRET SANTA FOR RECEIVING THE EXACT GAG PRESENT I ASKED FOR AND THEN DOING A COMPLETE U-TURN WHEN I REALISED IT WASN'T EVEN THE ENTIRE PRESENT 
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| # ? May 23, 2013 02:09 |
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I'll reiterate my biggest thing from what I was posting in the other thread; I played through ME1, ME2, and ME3 in one huge orgy of not-being-a-productive-human-being this week. Seriously put like 40 or 50 hours of sitting in front of my TV like a slug. AND I GET REPAID BY HAVING TO HAVE MY SHEPARD DIE WHAT THE gently caress I just wanted to survive and go back and see "and then he and Tali built a house and had hot alien sex forever the end."
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| # ? Mar 11, 2012 06:19 |
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The fact that Shepard dies is irrelevant, I was expecting - even hoping for - that. What matters is that the endings are a loving abortion. They render every choice you've made in the entire series irrelevant. I have never seen five years of investment so completely and perfectly ruined by five minutes of bad writing. BSG and Lost both had bad final seasons to ease us into disappointment. Mass Effect 3 was a genuinely poignant, moving game -- right up until that ending. It's almost impossible to believe the endings were written by the same writers. e: Poll on the (usually terrible) Bioware Social Network shows a total of 97% of players asking for a revised ending http://social.bioware.com/633606/polls/28989/ Mac Walters' twitter flooded with people asking what the gently caress happened is also pretty gratifying https://twitter.com/!/search/realtime/%40macwalterslives General Battuta fucked around with this message at Mar 11, 2012 around 06:23 |
| # ? Mar 11, 2012 06:20 |
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That ending is going to cop a lot of flak. My personal thoughts: It was foreshadowed with the Quarian-Geth conflict. I can't remember exactly what the kid said, but the gist of it to me was that humans and synthetics cannot live alongside each other, they will destroy each other. See what happened with the Quarians and Geth. I chose the Synthesis ending and then googled to find that apparently all that changes is the colour of the explosion - ok whatever, don't really care. The Synthesis ending to me is the only one that really makes a lot of sense, although I did seriously consider the destroy ending. The control one does not jibe with Shepard's character and felt really out of place. I am assuming that it was the Reapers themselves, or the forerunners of them, who built it all this way. Machines can wait forever, after all, and it seemed to me like the child wanted you to choose the Synthesis option. I am guessing that was the grand plan for them from the beginning and they just needed to wait for organic life to reach a point where this could happen. As is made clear, the only way you were even able to get to this point is to completely unite the galaxy. Javik even mentions that although the Protheans fought as one, their uniformity was what finished them. So the way I look at it, the Reaper-creators looked at what was happening and set a grand design in process. They knew that the remnants of each cycle would push the next cycle a little further along, and when organic life was ready, they would reach that pinnacle, and the next stage of evolution would begin. This ending felt more similar to something out of Arthur C Clarke or similar, than a Hollywood style ending. I actually thought the game was going to end when you get blasted by the Reaper's laser and it would just fade out with everyone calling to find out what happened - thought I was about to get the 'bad ending' or something. A lot of people in forums seem to be complaining about 'well who are the creators of the reapers then?' Not really sure how that's a valid criticism - they exist, therefore someone built them. I don't know if I agree with the child-hallucination theory. It seems to me like the kid that got into the shuttle was real enough, then that kid became an avatar of sorts for Shepard, of the guilt and grief he carries. The Catalyst needed something recognisable to Shepard, and that was a prominent image in his mind. It was amusing watching the dreams throughout the game - particularly the one where Shepard sees (what I assume is meant to be) peacetime Shepard with his son. This was particularly funny to me because I play a black Shepard but the kid is still white. He is a very forgiving or naive Shepard. The other one that amused me is that I used Inferno armor throughout the entire game, and the closeups with a nearly opaque visor make Shepard look a whole lot like a Spartan. It was nice to see a lot of characters get some closure. Mordin's sacrifice was nice, Thane doing one last heroic thing before dying having made his peace with his son was sweet, and Grunt being a stone-cold badass and staggering up covered in blood demanding some food was hilarious. The Illusive Man becoming what amounted to Saren 2.0 was a little disappointing but hardly surprising. I thought about it a lot and there wasn't really much else they could have done with his character. I had hoped Bioware might go for a 'sweep in and save the day at the last minute - haha PSYCH we killed the Reapers and waited just long enough that you can't fight back, hard luck guys we won' angle, but nope. Finally, Kai Leng was loving retarded and him throwing me into a pit and being like haha SUCKAAAAA was bullshit, loving CHARGE back out of there son and ruin his poo poo. Playing Vanguard made that fight hilarious because he was all yeeeeah boiiii i'm gonna gently caress you up and I just charge-novad the living gently caress out of him and he didn't land a single hit.
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| # ? Mar 11, 2012 06:20 |
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For such a character driven series, they really neglected them at the end. I am okay with Shep being sacrificed for humanity/the milky way, but don't cut off right there. Let's see some repercussions for both the entire planet and his crew.
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| # ? Mar 11, 2012 06:22 |
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Mass Effect 3 is a video game with an ending.
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| # ? Mar 11, 2012 06:23 |
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Two Finger posted:It was foreshadowed with the Quarian-Geth conflict. I can't remember exactly what the kid said, but the gist of it to me was that humans and synthetics cannot live alongside each other, they will destroy each other. See what happened with the Quarians and Geth. Commander Shepard caused them to live together in peace after Legion dissolved himself into the Geth?
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| # ? Mar 11, 2012 06:23 |
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I was really disappointed the Illusive Man was indoctrinated. It's such a cheap reason for him to be doing what he was doing  . And what IS up with his eyes? He had freaky eyes back in ME2 when I assume he wasn't indoctrinated at that point (otherwise what the gently caress was he doing stopping the Reapers). e: also I hated the ending and wanted the option (even if really hard) to have a "happy" ending where Shepard lives, the relays survive, reapers are dead (or otherwise not a threat...). I figured that went without saying 
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| # ? Mar 11, 2012 06:23 |
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Amateur Saboteur posted:Mass Effect 3 is a video game with an ending. Barely. e: The most annoying part of the ending is the whole Normandy going through the mass relay thing. It makes zero sense and is a huge logic hole. Lloyd Boner fucked around with this message at Mar 11, 2012 around 06:26 |
| # ? Mar 11, 2012 06:24 |
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I just had a bunch of emotional investment in my video game pixel dude built up from so much playing all at once I guess. But then again I found myself not really liking the darker turn that ME3 took; I guess I should have been expecting it but man, having the entire game being about billions of sentient beings dying followed by your character sacrificing himself at the end of it all is just depressing as gently caress.
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| # ? Mar 11, 2012 06:24 |
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The endings for this game make absolutely no sense considering (in the continuity of The Arrival DLC) mass relays exploding blows up the entire system so congratulations, you destroyed everything linked to a Mass Relay, dooming thousands of worlds. Really, the only people who would come out semi-decently in this if you don't screw them over are the Quarians: they're back on their homeworld for the most part, wheras every other species in Citadel space has had their homeworld completely devastated and are now cut off from food (Turians) and mates (Krogan). As it stands, you could have just had Shepard die after hitting the button next to Anderson and it would have been a far better ending than what we got. I can't think of such a high budget gaming having this bad of an ending, even taking into account KotOR 2 and Human Revolution or the original Fallout 3 ending. Party Plane Jones fucked around with this message at Mar 11, 2012 around 06:28 |
| # ? Mar 11, 2012 06:25 |
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ImpAtom posted:Commander Shepard caused them to live together in peace after Legion dissolved himself into the Geth? Eh, was more talking about the fact that they started fighting in the first place, obviously it had happened before and they knew it would happen again.
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| # ? Mar 11, 2012 06:26 |
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opblaaskrokodil posted:I was really disappointed the Illusive Man was indoctrinated. It's such a cheap reason for him to be doing what he was doing The ending was ridiculous for a lot of reasons but the thing that got me was the setup for the button press. I went in a random direction and when I found it was Control, I hit it anyway because that entire section was poo poo and I couldn't be bothered spending ten minutes limping slowly over to the other side.
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| # ? Mar 11, 2012 06:27 |
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I was bugged that if the Citadel/Catalyst was there the whole time controlling the reapers, how did it not fix the sabotage by the Protheans of the signal to summon the reapers?
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| # ? Mar 11, 2012 06:28 |
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Two Finger posted:Eh, was more talking about the fact that they started fighting in the first place, obviously it had happened before and they knew it would happen again. Yes, but the example given in this very game is "and then they made peace." The fact that Shepard can't go "Dear Deus Ex Machina: I made peace between synthetics and organics. You may be super-advanced but you are still an idiot. Luv: Shepard" is ridiculous.
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| # ? Mar 11, 2012 06:29 |
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Quornes posted:I was bugged that if the Citadel/Catalyst was there the whole time controlling the reapers, how did it not fix the sabotage by the Protheans of the signal to summon the reapers? Because Bioware didn't think about the lovely ending they wrote.
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ImpAtom posted:Yes, but the example given in this very game is "and then they made peace." The fact that Shepard can't go "Dear Deus Ex Machina: I made peace between synthetics and organics. You may be super-advanced but you are still an idiot. Luv: Shepard" is ridiculous. Eh without arguing the point too much it seemed to me like this kind of fit into the plan in general as it would take a singular individual to be able to do something like that and unite the galaxy to even get to the point where black shepard talks to his white son and decides to make everyone into cyborgs. Basically I liked it thematically but when you look at it, it pretty much falls apart because Bioware can't write worth a drat.
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| # ? Mar 11, 2012 06:33 |
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opblaaskrokodil posted:I was really disappointed the Illusive Man was indoctrinated. It's such a cheap reason for him to be doing what he was doing
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| # ? Mar 11, 2012 06:34 |
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It's like Bioware knew going into the game that they were never going to write an ending that would satisfy everybody, so they decided to do the next best thing and troll the gently caress out of their entire fanbase.
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| # ? Mar 11, 2012 06:36 |
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Two Finger posted:Eh without arguing the point too much it seemed to me like this kind of fit into the plan in general as it would take a singular individual to be able to do something like that and unite the galaxy to even get to the point where black shepard talks to his white son and decides to make everyone into cyborgs. Even if you make that argument, it takes the same 'singular individual' to deal with the Krogans and the Rachni, both of whom threatened the entire galaxy as well, so even the "organic vs synthetic" threat doesn't make sense.
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Amateur Saboteur posted:TIM was indoctrinated before he started Cerberus when he found some Reaper tech somewhere, sometime I dunno I was in Borders one day and there was a comic book with him on the cover so I skimmed it and yeah.
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| # ? Mar 11, 2012 06:36 |
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This is what really happened for me and then Shepard, Tali, Liara, Garrus, and all their friends went to Rannoch and built a giant rear end house where they partied for all eternity 
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| # ? Mar 11, 2012 06:38 |
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Lloyd Boner posted:Because Bioware didn't think about the lovely ending they wrote.
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ImpAtom posted:Even if you make that argument, it takes the same 'singular individual' to deal with the Krogans and the Rachni, both of whom threatened the entire galaxy as well, so even the "organic vs synthetic" threat doesn't make sense. Why are you arguing with me about this when the biggest flaw with the whole game was the fact that black shepard had a white son and was totally cool with it, who was keeping his bed warm?
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Two Finger posted:Basically I liked it thematically but when you look at it, it pretty much falls apart because Bioware can't write worth a drat.
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| # ? Mar 11, 2012 06:40 |
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Two Finger posted:Why are you arguing with me about this when the biggest flaw with the whole game was the fact that black shepard had a white son and was totally cool with it, who was keeping his bed warm? What the gently caress are you talking about? At no point in Mass Effect 3 is it ever implied that Shepard has a son. The pure white kid you see in the dream sequences is the kid who dies during the game's opening. And the frustrating thing about the ending is that it takes 5 minutes to come up with an ending that satisfies the fans. They had to work to get something this bad.
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Amateur Saboteur posted:TIM was indoctrinated before he started Cerberus when he found some Reaper tech somewhere, sometime I dunno I was in Borders one day and there was a comic book with him on the cover so I skimmed it and yeah. Then why the hell would he spend the most resources pretty much ever spent ever to revive Shepard, the only guy to ever have killed one of the things? If he's indoctrinated, that would seem to imply he's on the reaper's side, but all of his actions would dictate that he is not except for at the very end being arbitrarily not able to kill them. It makes no sense at all, I mean, in ME2 he's not a psychopath and in ME3 he is. Bah. Also; Lovin' that thread title  My biggest disappointment in ME3 (outside of the ending) was not getting Blasto or some other Hanar as a squadmate.
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| # ? Mar 11, 2012 06:42 |
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General Battuta posted:What the gently caress are you talking about? At no point in Mass Effect 3 is it ever implied that Shepard has a son. The pure white kid you see in the dream sequences is the kid who dies during the game's opening. See the dream where Shepard sees himself give the kid a hug and then they both die in the flames. Seems pretty clear implication to me. Also it's called a joke
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SurreptitiousMuffin posted:I wouldn't say that. They can't write endings worth a drat. The ending was awful on just about every level but the game itself is pretty good. Yeah, Tuchanka was amazing and Mordin is an incredibly well written character.
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Isaacs Alter Ego posted:Then why the hell would he spend the most resources pretty much ever spent ever to revive Shepard, the only guy to ever have killed one of the things? If he's indoctrinated, that would seem to imply he's on the reaper's side, but all of his actions would dictate that he is not except for at the very end being arbitrarily not able to kill them. It makes no sense at all, I mean, in ME2 he's not a psychopath and in ME3 he is. Bah.
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| # ? Mar 11, 2012 06:43 |
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^^^ There's one if you have From Ashes that jizzes himself that he gets touched by an Enkindler (Javik)Two Finger posted:Why are you arguing with me about this when the biggest flaw with the whole game was the fact that black shepard had a white son and was totally cool with it, who was keeping his bed warm? Ha, you thought the Grandpa at the end was Shepard.
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opblaaskrokodil posted:Were there any Hanar even in ME3? I don't seem to recall seeing any floating around the citadel. Certainly I didn't speak to any, but I don't recall them even as scenery NPCs. There was a sidequest with an indoctrinated hanar, as well as a random event where Javik met a hanar (if you have From Ashes).
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| # ? Mar 11, 2012 06:44 |
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What is with major game developers and lovely endings these days? ME3 was by far the worst I have seen by a magnitude or two, but DX:HR and Skyrim were still terrible.
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| # ? Mar 11, 2012 06:45 |
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Amateur Saboteur posted:
Two Finger posted:It was amusing watching the dreams throughout the game - particularly the one where Shepard sees (what I assume is meant to be) peacetime Shepard with his son.
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^^^^^^^^^^^ That's not Shepard's son though... it's the kid that died in the opening sequence... At best he's symbolic of a child, and having some completely random-rear end kid show up would just confuse people. I think he's just more representative of the innocent masses who are dying (though I always found him an irrelevant figure who I couldn't care about, compared to people who I had actually interacted with at length and who died, e.g., Ashley or Kaidan) CVagts posted:There was a sidequest with an indoctrinated hanar, as well as a random event where Javik met a hanar (if you have From Ashes). . Where do I find this sidequest with an indoctrinated hanar? opblaaskrokodil fucked around with this message at Mar 11, 2012 around 06:48 |
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Man, I just wanted to hang out with my bros after stopping the Reapers, why can't we just chillax on Omega?
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Two Finger posted:Uh, what? That kid was from the very start of the game. As well as the very end. In no way is it implied to be his/her son.
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opblaaskrokodil posted:Oh, EA is retarded and purchasing DLC doesn't work for me Some salarian Spectre comes up to you in the Embassies, I think. It's Kasumi's ME3 appearance, so you might have to have gotten her in ME2 for it to trigger.
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Really, I'm not all too upset about the endings, though I will echo that they were a little short and should have fleshed out what happened to your crew buddies a little more. And it would have been nice to see something a little more tailored to all of your choices rather than whatever one you make in the last five minutes of the game. But, I destroyed the Reapers and my Shepard lived so I really can't complain.  Really, I think with the scope of the villains in this serious, Bioware would have been damned no matter what. I do want to see a nice, happy ending where just the Reapers are destroyed and I can make blue babies with my waifu, but that's just one potential ending. There were so many different ways for the ending to go, that you really could have just thrown a dart at a board and had a better chance at guessing what route Bioware was going to take. Having a Reaper AI give you a choice was about as high up on my list as any other, I suppose, and I don't think anyone is really surprised Shepard dies in a lot of the endings. Overall, I'm disappointed with the endings, but I'm not going "OMG this game sucks Bioware let Icarus fly too high up!" Overall, the series was fantastic, and the vast majority of ME3 was badass. I fully intend to play through again with some of my other Shepards, but I'll ignore pretty much everything after you go up on the Great White Elevator after TIM. Axel Serenity fucked around with this message at Mar 11, 2012 around 07:02 |
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| # ? May 23, 2013 02:09 |
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A redditor edited the endings to make a halfway decent compilation that is nowhere near as bad as what we got from Bioware: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoVnvJ4OxRg . I think they pulled from the trailer/announcment movies as well? What they should have done was just look at ME1: You have one inevitable ending (Sovereign is destroyed/Reapers are destroyed) but you have a lot of ways to get there.
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