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Is there any way to replace EDI's model with a generic bot?
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Amateur Saboteur posted:[Tali Sex Doll] God dammit, you son of a bitch.  That's not cool! Worse than loving goatse.
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Lets all stop being noble goons for a second and admit they weren't selling any boxart with 'homely' Shepard on the cover. VVV canon Shep is based off a goddamned male model, default femshep was just some plain Jane it's not that hard to figure. Amateur Saboteur fucked around with this message at Mar 12, 2012 around 07:09 |
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Coughing Hobo posted:They included that face as one of the presets for a custom appearance. Right, I just don't see why they felt they needed to change it from being the default one.  Amateur Saboteur posted:Lets all stop being noble goons for a second and admit they weren't selling any boxart with 'homely' Shepard on the cover. They use ManShep for all the ad copy anyway...
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TheJoker138 posted:Doing all the bad rear end stuff as a female makes it all seem even more bad rear end somehow too. Of course I'm going to say I agree, but I do want to go a bit further and say that I've always found Talimancers amusing because they don't even understand the very character they worship. See, Talimancers are not "anyone who romances Tali", they are a special breed. They view Tali as some innocent, pure, timid, shy asian night elf waifu straight out of a Japanese anime. They honestly do view Tali as if she was Tsukasa from Lucky Star or something of that sort. That is who they want her to be. As you might imagine, that takes a lot of twisting the story and misunderstanding the character to get her to fit that mold. A common argument is that she is some delicate flower because when you first see her in ME1 you need to rescue her. This is ridiculous and wrong but I don't think I need to explain why that is to anyone here, so I won't. I'm mostly just explaining and poking fun at Talimancer logic. Did you know that Talimancers back in ME2 would commonly get her exiled so that Tali had no choice but to be with Shepard and so Shepard could "look after her" better? That only Shepard was good enough for her? So what I'm getting at is that yes I think Tali works a lot better as a little sister character than a romance. Especially since when you romance her in ME2, she really just seems like she has a crush and it doesn't feel like and equal relationship at all. It feels weird. And she definitely seems too young. I think these reasons are precisely why she wasn't a romance option in the first game, anyway.
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| # ? Mar 12, 2012 07:07 |
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TheJoker138 posted:Doing all the bad rear end stuff as a female makes it all seem even more bad rear end somehow too. All of the romance options are pretty bad, really. Tali's and Liara's romance options aren't that different at all in tone, either, except Tali's is delayed by a game, so she isn't coming on to you literally one or two missions later like Liara does. They're both socially awkward people (I guess that's the right word here?) who just sort of blindly grope their way towards Shep. But since when has Bio gotten romance options right?
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TheJoker138 posted:I always play as a female if a game gives me the choice, so I've never actually heard any of his dialogue beyond when I tried to replay ME1 as him and it was just so...wrong...that I had to stop and start over as another female instead. I'm sure he's fine, but he'll never be Shepard to me Do yourself a favor and look up a youtube compilation of Meer's Renegade Shep scenes. The paragon run is harder to get across without playing the whole thing through, but he really does a great renegade.
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Beanpants posted:Me too, man. I play as paragon, and his work in 3 was his strongest yet, but when I pop out a renegade interrupt, Meer kills it. Does he say "Kirrahe" if you take that path instead of talking to Thane about it?
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Amateur Saboteur posted:Lets all stop being noble goons for a second and admit they weren't selling any boxart with 'homely' Shepard on the cover. Let us all be grateful that at least they did not put her in a bikini or walking away from an explosion. I am being entirely serious. I am glad they didn't slap EDI or Ashley on there in the background like ME2. Merry Magpie fucked around with this message at Mar 12, 2012 around 07:12 |
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Pladdicus posted:My one and -only- renegade action in all of ME3.    Ruined my perfect Paragon. WORTH IT.
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| # ? Mar 12, 2012 07:09 |
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Pladdicus posted:My one and -only- renegade action in all of ME3. That one, and shooting TIM because for some reason I didn't have enough rep for the fourth paragon convo option. I might have picked one or two other convo ones, but those were the only renegade cutscene choices I made.
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| # ? Mar 12, 2012 07:09 |
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Aristobulus posted:
Jesus Christ. There are people like this? I've seen the stuff on the Bioware forums - I think one of the posters on SA (Dan Didio?) has a quote from there - but I always forget just how insane they are.
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about crazy Tali fans.
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Aristobulus posted:Did you know that Talimancers back in ME2 would commonly get her exiled so that Tali had no choice but to be with Shepard and so Shepard could "look after her" better? That only Shepard was good enough for her? That's pretty funny because if they did that and tried to be Paragon in ME3 Tali loving kills herself.
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Amateur Saboteur posted:Lets all stop being noble goons for a second and admit they weren't selling any boxart with 'homely' Shepard on the cover. drat straight, male shepard is dreamy <3
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tehllama posted:That's pretty funny because if they did that and tried to be Paragon in ME3 Tali loving kills herself. Ha, you think they give a poo poo about Legion? I guarantee almost all of them stopped Legion from uploading the data in the first place and didn't even consider peace. Anything to please their perfect space waifu~
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| # ? Mar 12, 2012 07:11 |
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WarLocke posted:They use ManShep for all the ad copy anyway...
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^^ OK I had not noticed that. I can see the facelift to sell boxes, I just want to sperg a little because I'm a neckbeard I guess.  Amateur Saboteur posted:VVV canon Shep is based off a goddamned male model, default femshep was just some plain Jane it's not that hard to figure. That was part of why the face was so awesome. FemShep is a loving soldier (or sniper or biotic, whatever) not a runway model.
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CrushedB posted:Does he say "Kirrahe" if you take that path instead of talking to Thane about it? I don't know if Shepard adds Kirrahe, but someone mentioned that if Miranda dies because of Kai Leng then Shepard adds her name.
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Nombres posted:All of the romance options are pretty bad, really. Tali's and Liara's romance options aren't that different at all in tone, either, except Tali's is delayed by a game, so she isn't coming on to you literally one or two missions later like Liara does. They're both socially awkward people (I guess that's the right word here?) who just sort of blindly grope their way towards Shep. With Liara you can explain the fact that it happens fast away via her and Shepard's weird psychic link thing that they seem to share, and that that's how it just seems to go down with Asari in general.
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Aristobulus posted:Of course I'm going to say I agree, but I do want to go a bit further and say that I've always found Talimancers amusing because they don't even understand the very character they worship. Which is so wrong. She was badass in ME1 (though you don't find out until ME3) on her own pilgrimage with proof of Saren she contacts the Shadow Broker, tries to cut deals with the council and criminal elements. But she's still a kid. In ME2 she has hero worship and is clearly not terrible emotionally mature yet, so that disparity of power and abuse of position as her 'saviour' is...kinda creepy. Mitigated somewhat by simply acknowledging her feelings and going 'paragon' but still kinda creepy. Is Tali romanceable in 3 if you haven't done it in 2? She's pretty cool in 3.
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tehllama posted:That's pretty funny because if they did that and tried to be Paragon in ME3 Tali loving kills herself. I've had strong suspicions about EA/Bioware trying to troll its fans with ME3, but this was one of the times I actually found it funny as hell. It's one of the better scenes, actually, I think - it's pretty poignant and there's actually a point to it in the game. What would you do if you just saw the last of your race wiped out because the guy you had a crush on flipped 'em off to make buddies with your ancestral enemy (that by the way killed your father)? Actually, though, if you have high enough Paragon, can't you convince the Quarian Fleet to retreat? TheJoker138 posted:With Liara you can explain the fact that it happens fast away via her and Shepard's weird psychic link thing that they seem to share, and that that's how it just seems to go down with Asari in general. True enough, I guess. None of them are particularly fine literature quality, though.
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Haha, one of the Bioware Social mods is closing every ending-related thread that pops up saying users should post in one of the existing ones. I think by tomorrow we'll have a 1000-page thread against it on there  e: also, people are really desperately clinging to theories of either hallucination caused by blood loss or indoctrination. Like, a lot of people. It's kind of sad.
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ASK ME ABOUT GETTING REAL MAD IN A SECRET SANTA FOR RECEIVING THE EXACT GAG PRESENT I ASKED FOR AND THEN DOING A COMPLETE U-TURN WHEN I REALISED IT WASN'T EVEN THE ENTIRE PRESENT
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WarLocke posted:^^ OK I had not noticed that. I can see the facelift to sell boxes, I just want to sperg a little because I'm a neckbeard I guess. My FemShep in ME1 had a giant facial scar to further this, if I'm remembering right. They seem to have taken that option away though.
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Internet Kraken posted:Ha, you think they give a poo poo about Legion? I guarantee almost all of them stopped Legion from uploading the data in the first place and didn't even consider peace. Anything to please their perfect space waifu~ This is basically it, yes. Talimancers are vicious. I would not feel wrong in saying that most of them would have simply purposely killed Legion during the suicide mission because he opposed Tali. There's precedent for this. Many of them killed Kal'Reegar because they saw him as competition for Tali. And they can be the only ones for Tali. So when Legion actually opposes her?
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Nombres posted:I've had strong suspicions about EA/Bioware trying to troll its fans with ME3, but this was one of the times I actually found it funny as hell. It's one of the better scenes, actually, I think - it's pretty poignant and there's actually a point to it in the game. What would you do if you just saw the last of your race wiped out because the guy you had a crush on flipped 'em off to make buddies with your ancestral enemy (that by the way killed your father)? Paragon/Renegade near max (I did it with half a bar from full). Rescuing the peace captain. Completing the other geth mission. Having worked for peace in ME2 and the collector base existing I think somehow works into it making it easier but isn't necessary.
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Nombres posted:I've had strong suspicions about EA/Bioware trying to troll its fans with ME3, but this was one of the times I actually found it funny as hell. It's one of the better scenes, actually, I think - it's pretty poignant and there's actually a point to it in the game. What would you do if you just saw the last of your race wiped out because the guy you had a crush on flipped 'em off to make buddies with your ancestral enemy (that by the way killed your father)? There a couple more variables involved. You have do all the side missions beforehand. Not destroy the Geth during ME2. And save Admiral vas Quib Quib Edit: Forgot the Reputation score as well. The collector base doesn't matter.
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Nombres posted:Actually, though, if you have high enough Paragon, can't you convince the Quarian Fleet to retreat? I believe you still have to pass a different rep check that depends on whether or not you saved the Quarian general, whether or not Tali got exiled, and maybe something else (reprogrammed the geth?). Simply being high paragon isn't enough.
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Pladdicus posted:My one and -only- renegade action in all of ME3. That and blowing TIM away. I missed an persuade on him somewhere so the last Paragon option was grey, but shooting honestly felt better anyways.
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Aristobulus posted:This is basically it, yes. Talimancers are vicious. I would not feel wrong in saying that most of them would have simply purposely killed Legion during the suicide mission because he opposed Tali. This reminds me. Kal'Reegar dies in a goddamn newspaper, being a badass. So does that one biotic at the end of Jack's Loyalty mission who tries to start the facility back up. Saves like, a whole transport full of kids or whatever. It was a very subtle reference I really liked.
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Anal Tributary posted:Haha, one of the Bioware Social mods is closing every ending-related thread that pops up saying users should post in one of the existing ones. This is how they'll deal with it. Cryptic did the same thing in Star Trek Online when they implemented a skill cap a week before the beta ended. Shove all discussion into one thread, ban people who keep making new threads, and ignore it.
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I sort of like Garrus' romance path. I'm not afraid to admit it. At the very least, I think it's by far the least embarrassing of the ME2 romances, outside of Liara, and it's carried across great in ME3. Mostly because, to me, it seems to be based less on wish-fulfillment attraction (like you'd see in the Tali space princess bunch, the horrible one-liners for Jacob's path, or anything having to do with Miranda) and more on mutual exhaustion (you got all your friends killed, I was dead a month ago, so any port in a storm, right). It also doesn't significantly shake up Garrus' own character whenever he has to enter "romance" mode and instead just draws on one of his more distinct personality traits - that he's got a long history of being a fuckup, and he knows it, and really doesn't want to repeat it. It sort of helps justify why he turns into an awkward, stuttering doofus for most of his romance-specific dialogue.
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TheJoker138 posted:My FemShep in ME1 had a giant facial scar to further this, if I'm remembering right. They seem to have taken that option away though. Yeah, my Shep had a gigantic gouge on his nose, but the Lazarus Project took care of that.
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Aristobulus posted:This is basically it, yes. Talimancers are vicious. I would not feel wrong in saying that most of them would have simply purposely killed Legion during the suicide mission because he opposed Tali. TheJoker138 posted:My FemShep in ME1 had a giant facial scar to further this, if I'm remembering right. They seem to have taken that option away though. Amateur Saboteur fucked around with this message at Mar 12, 2012 around 07:21 |
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TheJoker138 posted:With Liara you can explain the fact that it happens fast away via her and Shepard's weird psychic link thing that they seem to share, and that that's how it just seems to go down with Asari in general. Yeah, there's a lot to be said for the mind melding Asari can do. It can be very intimate, and it almost certainly was for Liara who probably had not really done that with people before. Something else worth pointing out, though this can equally be used for any romance, not just Liara, is this - there is more to the relationships than what you see. Liara does not actually fall for Shep over the span of 2 conversations, it is just condensed for ease of writing and the player's sake of not having to sit through a ton of dialogue and scenes. This is easier to understand when you look up the timeline of how long ME1 actually takes, and compare it with how long it seems to take to the player. There is clearly more going on than what the players personally see. This is also implied by the fighting that is going on between Liara and the Vermire Survivor over Shepard, if you lead both of them on, for example. You never really see any fighting until that moment, and the player doesn't see a lot of room for it, but it must have been going on sometime. I think more can be said for the Liara romance, as well, but I don't think people want me to get more into it than I have here.
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Oxxidation posted:Mostly because, to me, it seems to be based less on wish-fulfillment attraction Star Trek/Wars has ruined me, I have a pavlovian reaction to go after green/blue space women.
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At any point does Shepard not shoot Anderson in the gut during the confrontation with TIM?
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Amateur Saboteur posted:You have like a doctorate in talimancology or something? I'm going to guess that Aristobulus may have spent some time on BSN at some point. If you post there at all you will quickly learn A LOT about talimancers and how hosed up they are. It's not like they keep to their own threads or anything, they never shut the gently caress up about her.
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| # ? Mar 12, 2012 07:21 |
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WarLocke posted:That was part of why the face was so awesome. FemShep is a loving soldier (or sniper or biotic, whatever) not a runway model. Well, what you get is the BioWare community voting on what they find attractive, then the BioWare face generator producing the same old poo poo but with more makeup to hide the low quality eyelashes.
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Came into ME3 wary, ended up really getting into it due to the fun of seeing subplots from all three games get developed and concluded, began telling friends who were wary after ME2 that they should get it, finished game today, have been going down my list telling them to disregard my recommendation. Never seen an ending so efficiently kill my enjoyment for a game before. I know complaining about it has already become passe, but good lord. I also don't get why I couldn't do the final Paragon dialogue choice for The Illusive Man in the endgame--my Paragon score was maxed out and the only Renegade choices I made in the entire game (up until that point, at which TIM got a bullet) were killing Kai Leng and being conversationally rude to the Prothean VI afterward. Was there another requirement I missed?
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Aristobulus posted:I think more can be said for the Liara romance, as well, but I don't think people want me to get more into it than I have here. Though the save I used for this ME3 playthough was not one where Liara was my love interest, the mind meld just before you roll out in the final push on Earth was very 
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