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Malek posted:(That's my interpretation for Kela Selai) The Mass Effect wiki points out it's usage is similar to Allahu Ackbar, which makes the Tali romance even funnier (and fitting given the Quarians in their Space-burqas). "Shepard, I love you..." "ALLAHU ACKBAR!" 
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CrushedB posted:"Illusive Man, this is crazy. We're not ready for this kind of power. You can't control it." The Illusive Man couldn't control them. But I can. 
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I don't think punching the Quarian on your ship is acceptable in a purist Paragon run like Kai Leng and Udina. Those were more-or-less life and death but punching the Quarian was just being a dickhead bully. "I DON'T AGREE WITH YOUR OPINIONS [RIGHT HOOK]"
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Cthulu Carl posted:The Mass Effect wiki points out it's usage is similar to Allahu Ackbar, which makes the Tali romance even funnier (and fitting given the Quarians in their Space-burqas). Han: "Oh well in that case. RAMMING SPEED!" Amateur Saboteur posted:I don't think punching the Quarian on your ship is acceptable in a purist Paragon run like Kai Leng and Udina. Those were more-or-less life and death but punching the Quarian was just being a dickhead bully.  What? I ... what!?
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Affi posted:So I recognized some Quorian live-ships in the ending video, do these still pop up if you side with the Geth? Do the asari cruisers also show? I thought those were there because I saved the Destiny Ascension and a few others around the galaxy. No, instead of the live-ships, you've got a bunch of Geth cruisers and dreadnoughts. Which I think was a huge cop out. You've got resources for slightly different scenes of ships involving past decisions (Destiny Ascension, Quarians/Geth) but not enough to put the Quarians AND the Geth together? If you save the Quarians OR make peace between the Geth and Quarians, you get to see live-ships warping in. You only see the Geth ships if you save the Geth. If you made peace, you just get Joker mentioning the Geth fleet reporting in. Was it that hard to draw both in? Just a bit irritating.
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Amateur Saboteur posted:I don't think punching the Quarian on your ship is acceptable in a purist Paragon run like Kai Leng and Udina. Those were more-or-less life and death but punching the Quarian was just being a dickhead bully. It's really letting Gerrel off light. Most people who try to kill Shepard end up dead.
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Amateur Saboteur posted:I don't think punching the Quarian on your ship is acceptable in a purist Paragon run like Kai Leng and Udina. Those were more-or-less life and death but punching the Quarian was just being a dickhead bully. He was going to kill you.
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Young Freud posted:This talk about the Krogan's future, post-Shepard, has made me think what would happen to all the Council races in the aftermath? I stand by my theory that when the Citadel races start hopping between solar systems, they'll find the Vorcha and Yahg as client races of the Volus. 
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Thwomp posted:You only see the Geth ships if you save the Geth. If you made peace, you just get Joker mentioning the Geth fleet reporting in. I saw both in my cutscenes. They even showed a geth sitting in a pilot chair, which I thought was silly.
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skoolmunkee posted:I saw both in my cutscenes. They even showed a geth sitting in a pilot chair, which I thought was silly. Seeing the geth chilling out in the pilot's seat was cute, but now I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT MASS EFFECT. Why do they need a physical platform to control the fighters? Couldn't the geth programs interface with the ship directly? I had this same question when Legion was flying me out of the dreadnought.
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ZuljinRaynor posted:He was going to kill you. Sure, Shepard in reality is a one-man army, but theoretically he's a soldier in a war. Generals make choices that put the lives of those in their command in jeopardy all the time as well as bystanders. I swear Shepard has to say some variation of "they knew the risks" at least a dozen times so he comes off as a hypocrite baby when he's mad someone did it to him. e: After he punches him he says "if I didn't need your fleet.." He'd what? Murder the Admiral for exercising his authority in something he thought was the correct decision? I'm not defending Gerrell really, just saying Shepard getting emotional and doing aggressive things spontaneously isn't consistent with the Paragon narrative. Amateur Saboteur fucked around with this message at Apr 10, 2012 around 18:03 |
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OatmealRaisin posted:Seeing the geth chilling out in the pilot's seat was cute, but now I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT MASS EFFECT. Why do they need a physical platform to control the fighters? Couldn't the geth programs interface with the ship directly? I had this same question when Legion was flying me out of the dreadnought. Synthetics are not so different from organics, you see.
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skoolmunkee posted:I saw both in my cutscenes. They even showed a geth sitting in a pilot chair, which I thought was silly. Why would geth fighters even need cockpits? Mobile platforms aren't needed for piloting ships, just download processes straight into the fighter itself. The cutscene when you leave the dreadnought did give me a hilarious mental image, though. I don't know if I wasn't paying attention but it looked like only Tali and Shepard got in and not Javik. So I pictured him clinging to the top as it flew back to the Normandy, swearing the whole time.
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Amateur Saboteur posted:I don't think punching the Quarian on your ship is acceptable in a purist Paragon run like Kai Leng and Udina. Those were more-or-less life and death but punching the Quarian was just being a dickhead bully. He was a sneaky little poo poo who tried to kill some of my crew because he was thinking with his trigger finger. He's lucky I only punched him. Nobody endangers Shepard's crew and gets away with it.
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ZuljinRaynor posted:He was going to kill you. Amateur Saboteur posted:No, no he wasn't. He was just arguing with you. He previously made a military decision that could have resulted in Shepard's death, but at the time and in the foreseeable future he was no threat. ... I ... I ... I ...
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skoolmunkee posted:I saw both in my cutscenes. They even showed a geth sitting in a pilot chair, which I thought was silly. If you save both, you get a shot of a Geth in a pilot's chair during Hackett's speech. Then as the fleets warp in, the Quarians pull up last with the live-ships. If you save the Geth, you get the pilot shot but then a whole mess of Geth ships are in the place of the Quarian live-ships. The shot isn't replicated if both races live nor can I make out any Geth ships during any of the sequences.
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Kavak posted:Why would geth fighters even need cockpits? Mobile platforms aren't needed for piloting ships, just download processes straight into the fighter itself. So they can potentially evacuate to a mobile platform and perform a Geth airdrop.
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PiCroft posted:I know this was pages ago, but Miranda pissed me off so much. The design, not the character herself. I found her conveniently placed catsuit-slit, high-heels and gratuitous rear end-shots so loving horrible I am too embarassed to have her on screen with other people around. As sad as it is I think it's just the "default setting" for game artists--guys who grew up on really indulgent comic books or fantasy novels or whatever and are now working in a really male-dominated industry. You can be like "Josh I need some female armor sets" and they'll be like "sexy space babe suits, gotcha". What weirds me out is that Mass Effect 1 had mostly pretty reasonable designs (besides Ashleys pink armor and a few other things). But then in 2 they brought in Miranda (and Jack to a lesser degree) and right when I was ready to believe that was a fluke they doubled down with Liara's new giant-boobed armor in Shadow Broker, then Ashley's even more giant-bobbed armor in 3, then Liara's still bigger boobed alternate armor, and of course EDI. And Jessica Chobot. And probably some other stuff I'm forgetting. I don't know what the cause of this might be beyond simply changing staff. I'm hesitant to ascribe it all to planned marketing or whatever because I think in a lot of cases you have to actively stop character artists from making horribly sexist stuff.
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All the fleets arriving is a pretty awesome scene. I really wish they'd done more with that. Like a suicide mission-esque series of choices assigning different fleets to different tasks. Sure, that's Hackett's job and all, but as someone in this thread pointed out already, none of the allied forces are showing up to support Hackett. They're doing it to support Shepard. Mostly I really wanted people getting various races ignobly killed due to assigning them to the space vents. Same for the ground forces once you hit Earth. I guess I'm finally reaching the conclusion that while the last 5 minutes are by far the most terrible and ruinous, there's a lot of other significant flaws in the endgame that starchild made me overlook.
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Amateur Saboteur posted:Y'know you're right, making a hard decision in a time of war that can potentially result in people's (who signed up to a career where they risk dying every single day in combat) death has the exact same context as deliberate murder. You're acting like Shephard was a grunt, not one person whom has done unimaginary great deeds before. Contextually, you're legitimizing the death of Superman because at that moment it would provide more benefit without scoping out the long run. I stand by my statement.
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Why did the Volus fleet get destroyed I recruited them in a vent guys 
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Zzulu posted:It's possible they might make non-RPG games in the ME universe too. They were even developing a Mass Effect multiplayer FPS before it got scrapped and parts of it turned into the multiplayer we see in ME3 This picture is from a few pages back now, but I just want to say: I loving hate how stupid this gun looks. It looks like a fish. As our friends the krogan know too well, guns are better than fish, and I'll add that they sure as hell shouldn't look like fish. The avenger is the dumbest looking gun I have ever seen and I hate it. Blech.
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gyrobot posted:So they can potentially evacuate to a mobile platform and perform a Geth airdrop. You know, that's a pretty good explanation for me. Plot hole filled.
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Lotish posted:This picture is from a few pages back now, but I just want to say: I loving hate how stupid this gun looks. It looks like a fish. As our friends the krogan know too well, guns are better than fish, and I'll add that they sure as hell shouldn't look like fish. The avenger is the dumbest looking gun I have ever seen and I hate it. Blech. I can't figure out why they went with that as the iconic gun for the series over the Spectre assault rifle from ME1. That thing looked great.
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gyrobot posted:So they can potentially evacuate to a mobile platform and perform a Geth airdrop. That actually makes a lot of sense. If the fighter is damaged, put the processes in a mobile platform that can eject or whatever for later pickup or even deployment onto the battlefield.
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Amateur Saboteur posted:Y'know you're right, making a hard decision in a time of war that can potentially result in people's (who signed up to a career where they risk dying every single day in combat) death has the exact same context as deliberate murder. Gerrel is also seen to be working at cross-purposes to Shepard throughout, endangering his own civilians in order to try and start a war. There's a lot more reasons to punch him than shooting at a ship with Shepard on it. I doubt it's totally consistent with a Paragon Shepard (who presumably has more self-control) but it was sure as gently caress satisfying.
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FairGame posted:All the fleets arriving is a pretty awesome scene. I really wish they'd done more with that. Like a suicide mission-esque series of choices assigning different fleets to different tasks. My personal favorite part about space battle part is if you save the Geth and the Quarians, you only see the Quarian fleet in the lead up. Also if you got the Destiny Ascension destroyed in ME1, it's replaced by a random Asari cruiser.
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Lotish posted:This picture is from a few pages back now, but I just want to say: I loving hate how stupid this gun looks. It looks like a fish. As our friends the krogan know too well, guns are better than fish, and I'll add that they sure as hell shouldn't look like fish. The avenger is the dumbest looking gun I have ever seen and I hate it. Blech. I hate the Avenger too, but that's mostly because the thing is pathetically weak even at level 10. It's looks aren't as much of a deal-breaker, but I hate how it pops up in every cutscene that needs a gun bigger than a pistol no matter what the character usually uses. Amateur Saboteur posted:Y'know you're right, making a hard decision in a time of war that can potentially result in people's (who signed up to a career where they risk dying every single day in combat) death has the exact same context as deliberate murder. Gerrel deliberately ignored the plan to evacuate the battered civilian fleet and wait on Shepard's instructions to shoot the second the target presented itself at the risk of both Shepard and a fellow admiral. That kind of loose cannon crap doesn't fly when you're risking your entire species on a war that's already taking attention away from the looming threat of extinction by Reapers. Geostomp fucked around with this message at Apr 10, 2012 around 18:18 |
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Amateur Saboteur posted:Y'know you're right, making a hard decision in a time of war that can potentially result in people's (who signed up to a career where they risk dying every single day in combat) death has the exact same context as deliberate murder. You guys should all be getting mad at Legion for disabling the ships systems and making it such a juicy target in the first place
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Grey Fox V2 posted:In just ME3? Because shooting and blowing up the gas pipe while the Blood Pack Krogan threatens to rampage across the galaxy in ME2's loyalty mission for Mordin is necessary for all players. Let's add one to this - taking the first bottom-right renegade response to the dying reaper on Rannoch instead of the left-neutral option. Then using the renegade interrupt on it to air-strike it into submission one last time. just did this on my newgame+ paragon and it was so satisfying. also for ME2, that renegade interrupt at the start of Miranda's Loyalty mission is a must-do, every single time.
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Geostomp posted:I hate the Avenger too, but that's mostly because the thing is pathetically weak even at level 10. It's looks aren't as much of a deal-breaker, but I hate how it pops up in every cutscene that needs a gun bigger than a pistol no matter what the character usually uses. At least its not the Mantis. That stupid thing looks like something a kid would build out of cardboard.
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Liara didn't strike me as exploitative. Her boobs got bigger but her outfit wasn't nearly as stupid as Miranda or Samara. What I found silliest about Ashley's redesign was her face. Minimal makeup and a ponytail is a lot more sensible for a female soldier than her new glamor model look.
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Omnicarus posted:I can't figure out why they went with that as the iconic gun for the series over the Spectre assault rifle from ME1. That thing looked great. The Vindicator. It's a poo poo gun too (now).
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Amateur Saboteur posted:No, no he wasn't. He was just arguing with you. He previously made a military decision that could have resulted in Shepard's death, but at the time and in the foreseeable future he was no threat. First of all, that makes him a complete idiot because if I'm dead, everyone is dead and the Reapers are going to kill everyone. Also, I'm in charge of the operation and I told them to evacuate the civilians. He disobeyed everything so he got what he had coming. Amateur Saboteur posted:Sure, Shepard in reality is a one-man army, but theoretically he's a soldier in a war. Generals make choices that put the lives of those in their command in jeopardy all the time as well as bystanders. I swear Shepard has to say some variation of "they knew the risks" at least a dozen times so he comes off as a hypocrite baby when he's mad someone did it to him. Or, you know, Shepard has to deal with the Reapers and not just a bunch of dumb robots and dumb suit people with their dumb conflict. The Reapers are a problem and dead Shepard means everyone dies. Amateur Saboteur posted:e: After he punches him he says "if I didn't need your fleet.." He'd what? Murder the Admiral for exercising his authority in something he thought was the correct decision? I'm not defending Gerrell really, just saying Shepard getting emotional and doing aggressive things spontaneously isn't consistent with the Paragon narrative. My run is mostly Paragon (95% probably), but I pick a few Renegade stuff occasionally. Back in Mass Effect 1, I told Udina no one stabs me in the back when I got grounded. He got what he had coming in in Mass Effect 3. Shepard's only human. Getting emotional is normal. That's why I also told the Turian Councillor in ME1 to go to hell after they ignored me third/forth report. Doctor Doctor posted:You guys should all be getting mad at Legion for disabling the ships systems and making it such a juicy target in the first place I was mad at him. I was mad at him for not telling me stuff at all the whole time. If the geth wanted to party, I'd let them. Just without Reaper upgrades. I hope he liked those 3 renegade interrupts.
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Haledjian posted:I think Weekes mentioned the writers not having much contact with the artists, right? Do you remember Mass Effect 1? It was alright in the sense that everyone got skin tight armor. It was one of my biggest complaints about the game. The armor looked a like a catsuit that was painted on. I stuck with the starting armor for pretty much the whole game because everything else looked dumb(er). I expected Shepard to drop a line about how he felt that he was wearing nothing at all. I do imagine that the art design of certain characters is due to a lack of communication. Bulletstorm had an article where one of the one of the producers argued with the art designer responsible for designing the female lead. The artist claimed that she should be sexy and the producer described how she was designed with a D-cup and large cleavage. The producer shot the dude down and the final product was a lot more sensible. Here's a link to the article: http://techland.time.com/2010/10/14...-bulletstorm/4/
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Elotana posted:Liara didn't strike me as exploitative. Her boobs got bigger but her outfit wasn't nearly as stupid as Miranda or Samara. Why? Seriously, the redesign is just poo poo. Half of her outfits are horrible as well, even her soldier armor is massively form-fitting compared to vega, kaidan or even female Shepard. even the early concepts are better than what we got 
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Malek posted:I did 3 of those 4 things. The paragon option for them ceasing fire however was still satisfying.  Bongo Bill posted:In ME3, the only thing that determined whether you could pass charm or intimidate checks was your reputation score, regardless of paragon and renegade choices in the past. I played mostly paragon wasn't locked out of any renegade options. I think they finally got it.
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Elotana posted:Liara didn't strike me as exploitative. Her boobs got bigger but her outfit wasn't nearly as stupid as Miranda or Samara. I figure by ME3 she's something of a celebrity, so she's told to dress up a bit. Kaidan doesn't need to. Dude already looks good.
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Haledjian posted:At least its not the Mantis. That stupid thing looks like something a kid would build out of cardboard. At least the Mantis had stopping power. The Avenger was a peashooter.
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