Phylodox posted:

Puistokemisti posted:

Has there ever actually been a game where a ghost child and slow motion monochrome dream sequences actually added to the game instead just being really terrible?

PureRok posted:

Actually, she was 21-22 in the first game. She was born in 2161 and Mass Effect takes place in 2183.

Sorry, people calling people who romance Tali creepy because she's so young bother me. She was in her mid-20s by the time you can romance her. I don't see how that's remotely creepy. I do agree that most Talimancers are creepy as gently caress, though, but for different reasons. Her age shouldn't be an issue.

Aristobulus posted:

You're missing the point. Pointing to her actual age isn't a very good defense, just like I can't defend similar accusations against Liara by saying "She's actually over 100" because that's a cop out.

The issue has to do with how old she comes across as - and Tali comes across as a really young, naive character because she is freshly embarking on her Pilgrimage, so she understands very little of the galaxy outside the Flotilla.

It's in the way she acts and talks to people and things like that.

I don't know if I agree that it's pedophilia to romance Tali always...however the Talimancers specifically are a unique case because they attribute certain personality traits to her that play up the very things that make her seem particularly young and naive in the first place, so for those people it pretty much is bordering on pedophilia, because they DO seem to regard her as a child or inexperienced teenager.

PureRok posted:

Huh. I guess I never looked at her that way. Which I guess that makes me one of the not creepy Talimancers?

I don't think I get it, then.

AwkwardKnob posted:

Hahaha oh man, Bioware Bioware Bioware... just can't get a break, can they.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertc...se-advertising/


It's pretty rough that the BBB is even weighing in on this, official declaration or not. Technically yes, they did false-advertise, huh?

I can agree with that. The vast majority of ME3's advertising campaign has almost nothing to do with the actual game. I'm mostly thinking of all the TAKE BACK EARTH poo poo and those intense videos showing fights and character moments on Earth entirely absent from the game.

PiCroft posted:

As much as I think getting the BBB and Advertising Standards Agency (or whatever its called) involved was a step too far, I'd love it if game companies started to get their poo poo pushed in for promising poo poo they then conspicuously don't deliver. At the moment, a lot of game advertising resembles those old snake oil adverts you get pre-1950's or so about how Honest Doc's Miracle Tonic will cure Cancer, Headaches, Fever, Spine Misalignment and Death.

PiCroft posted:

As much as I think getting the BBB and Advertising Standards Agency (or whatever its called) involved was a step too far, I'd love it if game companies started to get their poo poo pushed in for promising poo poo they then conspicuously don't deliver. At the moment, a lot of game advertising resembles those old snake oil adverts you get pre-1950's or so about how Honest Doc's Miracle Tonic will cure Cancer, Headaches, Fever, Spine Misalignment and Death.

GOTTA STAY FAI posted:

PureRok posted:

Actually, she was 21-22 in the first game. She was born in 2161 and Mass Effect takes place in 2183.

Sorry, people calling people who romance Tali creepy because she's so young bother me. She was in her mid-20s by the time you can romance her. I don't see how that's remotely creepy. I do agree that most Talimancers are creepy as gently caress, though, but for different reasons. Her age shouldn't be an issue.

Phylodox posted:

GOTTA STAY FAI posted:

[code]Alliance Relay Chat System (TM) Client v 2.1

GOTTA STAY FAI posted:

code:

Alliance Relay Chat System (TM) Client v 2.1
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Please wait, [Shepard], verifying your login information...
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Login approved.  Welcome to ARCS!
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YOU are now logged in as [Shepard]

[LOVE_THIS_RIFLE]  Shepard?
[aBuSeD_BiOtIc]  holy poo poo shepard i thought harby got you for sure
[guddamn]  Guddamn, Shepard, you're tougher than I am!
[Shepard]  Not much time to chat, guys, I'm banged up pretty bad
[Jacob]  Is Anderson there with you?  Did you make it to the Citadel?
[Shepard]  Long story, Jason.  Anderson bled out.  Smoked a blunt with him before he went, though.
User [Behind_Blue_Eyes] has been disconnected (reason: ping timeout)
[Shepard]  TIM showed up, but let's just say that Cerberus should start looking for a replacement.
[Not_an_Undergrad]  Glad you're alive, Shepard.  Unfortunate for The Illusive Man.
[The_Last_Prothean]  Ha ha ha, so it turns out that he was wrong about controlling the reapers.
[LOVE_THIS_RIFLE]  foolish human
[Shepard]  foolish human
[Jacob]  foolish human
[guddamn] foolish human
[GRUNT]  FOOLISH HUMAN
[~Kasumi~]  Foolish human :3
[aBuSeD_BiOtIc]  calibrations
[aBuSeD_BiOtIc]  poo poo
[The_Last_Prothean]  Should we live through this, I will take pleasure in killing you all.
[Shepard]  haahhaha, I'm dying here
[Shepard]  Seriously, I'm literally dying here.
[Shepard]  Any ideas on how to make this thing work?
[Shepard]  Out the window, I can see us getting our asses handed to us.
[Shepard]  Lower orbit is a mess and Earth is burning :(
[We_Are_Geth]  Examine the control panel.  Select the option that says "activate attached device."
[aBuSeD_BiOtIc]  like it's gonna just say that
[Not_an_Undergrad]  Crucible constructed after-the-fact.  Citadel may not recognize it.
[Vega]  Did you try kicking it?
[Shepard]  Negative on the kicking it, James.  Also, dying hurts
[Shepard]  Wait, something's happening
[Shepard]  Quick, what's your favorite color
[JOKA]  Pinku
[The_Last_Prothean]  Red, like my enemies' blood.
[aBuSeD_BiOtIc]  red
[guddamn]  Blue
[LOVE_THIS_RIFLE]  Red.
[LOVE_THIS_RIFLE]  Thought for sure Joker would've said "green."
[Not_an_Undergrad]  White.
[GRUNT]  READ
[GRUNT]  WAIT RED
[Jacob]  Orange, commander.
[~Kasumi~]  Black.
[Shepard]  Red it is.  Cover your necks and asses because poo poo's about to get crazy
User [Shepard] has been disconnected
[JOKA]  OH poo poo WHAT THE gently caress IS THA
User [JOKA] has been disconnected
User [The_Last_Prothean] has been disconnected
User [Vega] has been disconnected
User [aBuSeD_BiOtIc] has been disconnected
User [~Kasumi~] has been disconnected
User [Grunt] has been disconnected
User [guddamn] has been disconnected
User [Jason] has been disconnected
User [We_Are_Geth] has been disconnected
User [Not_an_Undergrad] has been disconnected
User [LOVE_THIS_RIFLE] has been disconnected
[Gardner]  Back to work.

Amateur Saboteur posted:

Devs went on record saying the design for Tali was literally modeled after a silhouette of the Virgin Mary.

Kavak posted:

Great, but who's Gardner?

Kavak posted:

Great, but who's Gardner?

GOTTA STAY FAI posted:

code:

Alliance Relay Chat System (TM) Client v 2.1
[JOKA]  OH poo poo WHAT THE gently caress IS THA

Servetus posted:

Mess Sergeant Gardner

BexGu posted:

That's another thing that chaps my rear end. I don't mind that they basically made Tali into a space elf (come on, like it was really going to be anything else) but they couldn't at least use her VA Ash Sroka as a model? At least it wouldn't be the bottom of the barrel laziness like photo shopping a stock photo would be.

BexGu posted:

That's another thing that chaps my rear end. I don't mind that they basically made Tali into a space elf (come on, like it was really going to be anything else) but they couldn't at least use her VA Ash Sroka as a model? At least it wouldn't be the bottom of the barrel laziness like photo shopping a stock photo would be.

Aristobulus posted:

Oh god Fai I love you. I don't know how you manage to make those chat logs always so full of gold.

Can we get some kind of a key as to who belongs to what username? I'm pretty sure I know them all, but it's possible I'm wrong on at least one.

BexGu posted:

That's another thing that chaps my rear end. I don't mind that they basically made Tali into a space elf (come on, like it was really going to be anything else) but they couldn't at least use her VA Ash Sroka as a model? At least it wouldn't be the bottom of the barrel laziness like photo shopping a stock photo would be.

PiCroft posted:

I know this is hindsight, but after seeing "Tali's" face, I kinda prefer it being a mystery.

Also yeah I could fully understand if Sroka didn't want to put her face to Tali. I can only imagine the creepfest she's had to endure as a result of being her VA, never mind her physical likeness.

Ambiguatron posted:

There'd be people on BSN taking up a collection to pay for one of their number to visit her home and collect her sweat.

Aristobulus posted:

Oh god Fai I love you. I don't know how you manage to make those chat logs always so full of gold.

Can we get some kind of a key as to who belongs to what username? I'm pretty sure I know them all, but it's possible I'm wrong on at least one.

Amateur Saboteur posted:

Saying Liz wanted too much money paints her in a pretty negative light. I'm sure it wasn't that.

Krataar posted:

So this is a terrible thing it's a real issue of Fornax

GOTTA STAY FAI posted:

[code]Alliance Relay Chat System (TM) Client v 2.1

Young Freud posted:

No Tali, Miranda, or Wrex? The first two can breathe vacuum for all I care, but Wrex?

Adrastus posted:

So this is the fan made fornax Casey Hudson talked about. I dunno, I kinda want to destroy the franchise and salt the ashes too after seeing this. And hey, almost 40k downloads on one mirror alone.

GOTTA STAY FAI posted:

wrex has a lot on his plate now that the genophage is cured fyi

Ambiguatron posted:

You ever see all those pictures of Conan on a throne and there's like ten girls in chainmail bikinis laying on and around him? That's Wrex now.