Batham posted:

What about the green and blue ending?

Dan Didio posted:

Yeah, even ignoring the fact that pulp fiction was largely explotive and loving terrible and not at all something for a modern narrative to aspire to be like, it was created in an entirely different context and doesn't actually resemble Mass Effect in any significant way.

Buck Rogers and Captain Future are pulp science-fiction. Mass Effect isn't.

Utritum posted:

Zaeed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPJ_QsIVOD0

Venmoch posted:

It is a shame this isn't in. I can't imagine the fistbump that would've resulted from hearing

"Burn! You son of a bitch!"

Burning Mustache posted:

Just one more mission ... with that lovely old rifle ...

Burning Mustache posted:

Just one more mission ... with that lovely old rifle ...

Krinkle posted:

They didn't huskify jack's voice? How hard is it to pass a filter over her default attack lines? That's just lazy and makes the scene kind of silly.

ZombyDog posted:

To be fair, at least Zaeed managed a cameo, imagine the tragedy if he got offed in an email.

Kasonic posted:

There was a little bit of a filter there; do regular Phantoms even have a synthy voice?

Maybe if she was a Nemesis with their glitchy voice, but I thought it was fine.

Pochoclo posted:

Is there a good ending for the game yet?

Burning Mustache posted:

Just one more mission ... with that lovely old rifle ...

That DICK! posted:

Yeah, but unfortunately you can only unlock it if you've managed to keep General Leo and Aeris alive.

Piedmon Sama posted:

Replaying ME1 as an Engineer has reminded me how much I love Kaidan's inane commentary about everything.

"Those tunnels remind me of bathroom tiles."

"Bit nippy."

"At least it's a dry heat."


God bless your unflappable blandness, Kaidan.

tiberion02 posted:

Ahh man, I just got a mental image of you saying farewell to Zaeed on Earth, and he holds up Jessie and says that he's been tinkering to keep her ready for this one last mission.

:HEADCANON:

Piedmon Sama posted:

Replaying ME1 as an Engineer has reminded me how much I love Kaidan's inane commentary about everything.

"Those tunnels remind me of bathroom tiles."

"Bit nippy."

"At least it's a dry heat."


God bless your unflappable blandness, Kaidan.

ungulateman posted:

savetheclocktower posted:

I can only speak for myself, but multiple endings is never what I wanted. ME1 didn't have multiple endings; it had one ending (you defeat Saren and Sovereign) with differences in minor details, depending on your choices. ME2 didn't have multiple endings; it had one ending (you defeat the Collectors) with differences in minor details, depending on your choices. Just because the Council can live or die, just because Zaeed can live or die, doesn't mean it's an entirely different ending.

The trick is to make the details minor enough that they don't effect the denouement, but major enough that the player feels like their choices mattered. ME1 was probably the best at this; Saren and Sovereign are dead, humans put themselves on the map, but the choices you make (Destiny Ascension, Udina vs. Anderson on the Council) can "spin" the ending in different directions. It's not that I'm against having multiple endings in theory, but I'd rather they shoot for one strong narrative.

ashpanash posted:

So it's increasingly apparent that the ending was severely cut down/changed for time constraints which makes the "artistic integrity" line as big a gently caress you from a gaming company as I can remember.

But I digress. Let me ask this question. Do you think Bioware decided to blow up/gently caress the Mass Effect Universe to death, making sure there would never be any sequels, because they thought the Reapers were the ultimate enemy, and any enemy you would face in the future would fail to live up to them?

I can understand why they might take that approach, especially looking at other games and fiction that continues past the original planned story. For example, after Wing Command 3/4, they made a lovely Wing Commander game where they basically introduced a new alien race because the Kilrathi were turned into TNG Klingons. In the Star Wars EU, apparently there's some new super-threat race from beyond the galactic rim or something. In the Farscape comics, apparently there's a new bad-rear end race that rival the Scarrans.

I wonder if the Mass Effect team thought "well, we don't want to take this content in the future with some other reaper-like threat from another galaxy, so we'll end it here." Which I can imagine them thinking, only the problem with that line of thinking is it's very short-sighted. It's not necessary to have a new big bad existential threat to all life to justify a game or series of games in the universe. I think that's a trap that a lot of sci-fi writers fall into. You'd think a team with this much "artistic integrity" could see their way through it. Oh there I go again. God that phrase pisses me off.

Myrdhale posted:

That's a possibility but I don't agree with their choice if that is the case. I think it's a bit premature. The setting didn't necesserily need a big bad to stay interesting; it was still a wild frontier in a lot of places, plenty of areas to explore and just enjoy on a smaller scale. New stories that weren't about Shepard specificly could focus on much smaller scale stories, I.e. a planet in the Terminus systems throwing off Batarian Rule, The Alliance securing the Attican Traverse from pirates, so on and so forth. You couldn't raise the stakes much higher in Shepard's story, that's true, but the setting itself is much bigger than Shepard alone, unlike something like Halo, where outside of the main character there really isn't anything to talk about.

Piedmon Sama posted:

Replaying ME1 as an Engineer has reminded me how much I love Kaidan's inane commentary about everything.

"Those tunnels remind me of bathroom tiles."

Aristobulus posted:

What in the world is Kaidan saying looks like bathroom tiles anyway. I have no idea what's being referred to here.

The Grumbles posted:

Just finished this. Got the synthesis ending. I thought it was pretty cool? ...Thoughts?

The Grumbles posted:

Its pretty damning of the collective immaturity of the so-called 'gamer' community that people feel entitled for a story to be told beyond the scope of what has already been given.

The Grumbles posted:

Even if it is at odds with the choose-your-own adventure mechanics of the games, things like that petition to 'fix' the ending are so hideously brattish, even if the game was a little mismarketed.

The Grumbles posted:

I really enjoyed the universe, how well mapped out things like technology and alien cultures were, and how it explored this idea of different species having fundamental psychological differences for evolutionary reasons.

Megaman's Jockstrap posted:

Here's a thought: your post was the same stupid warmed-over nonsense that's been debunked a dozen times in this thread, and there's absolutely nothing original, engaging, or insightful about what you wrote.

Megaman's Jockstrap posted:

Here's a thought: your post was the same stupid warmed-over nonsense that's been debunked a dozen times in this thread, and there's absolutely nothing original, engaging, or insightful about what you wrote.

The Grumbles posted:

I really enjoyed the universe, how well mapped out things like technology and alien cultures were, and how it explored this idea of different species having fundamental psychological differences for evolutionary reasons.

That DICK! posted:

Pfft. Spoken like someone whose never beaten Of Mice and Men.

Phylodox posted:

I never thought a drawing of some space bros with babies would attract such ire. Man, some people just hate happiness. Guess I won't do that drawing of Legion playing with some puppies after all.

The Grumbles posted:

Just finished this. Got the synthesis ending. I thought it was pretty cool? It's kind of embarrassing that people have been demanding that they 'fix' the ending. I sure hope that Steinbeck releases a patch for Of Mice And Men so that Lennie doesn't die. Its pretty damning of the collective immaturity of the so-called 'gamer' community that people feel entitled for a story to be told beyond the scope of what has already been given. Even if it is at odds with the choose-your-own adventure mechanics of the games, things like that petition to 'fix' the ending are so hideously brattish, even if the game was a little mismarketed.
The silliest thing about all this is that the writing in this game is no great feat of literature. I really enjoyed the universe, how well mapped out things like technology and alien cultures were, and how it explored this idea of different species having fundamental psychological differences for evolutionary reasons. But things like plot and writing, at least in ME3, is generic filler at best, and at worst actually kind of undermines the cohesiveness of the world, in that you have this guy who for some reason is humanity's 'best hope' because he can either deliver a fairly inspiring speech, or be very rude to people. It's cool how the lore of the game grows with your decisions but the whole thing of shepherd being somehow special is never, ever justified, apart from the whole mass-relay thing in the first game. And it's because of the writing that this is the case, as all his 'moving speeches' are just kind of these ham-fisted cliches about 'hope' or 'honour' or whatever. This is why I think I was pretty satisfied with the ending. It gave closure to the questions of why the mass effect universe operates how it does, but it isn't as if Shepard is some great literary hero who has been done a disservice here. Compare shephard with any classic fictional hero and it's immediately obvious that rather than having a compelling, believable character you've got this tedious cliche machine. I think a lot of this may well be the demands of bioware's whole good guy/bad guy choice system, which holds back the possibility for believable characterisation. Thoughts?

Trast posted:

Some Goons just don't want to be happy. Some Goons just want to see the thread sperg.

The Grumbles posted:

This is why I think I was pretty satisfied with the ending. It gave closure to the questions of why the mass effect universe operates how it does...

That DICK! posted:

Pfft. Spoken like someone whose never beaten Of Mice and Men.

BexGu posted:

Title - ME3 - You’ll Never Be Alone

Megaman's Jockstrap posted:

Here's a thought: your post was the same stupid warmed-over nonsense that's been debunked a dozen times in this thread

Sky Shadowing posted:

Valid thoughts. Now come to the realization that the ending shatters the universe you enjoyed so much. That you've been fighting to save it for three games, but the only way to save it is to destroy it yourself.

Phylodox posted:

Yeah, but did you get the green ending where George and Lennie get merged?

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Aye, but equally tedious is the "my god, I was cheated - this is worse than when my wife left me/my children were killed" that represents the other option