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Zzulu
May 15, 2009


Doesn't Legion end up as a miniboss if you send his body to Cerberus in ME2?

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Modus Operandi
Oct 5, 2010


NutritiousSnack posted:

This is why he's my favorite character. He's just loving inept and powerless compared to Shepard despite trying so hard to be a badass. He is literally a basement dwelling weeaboo trying to fight a hardened badass.

But a weeaboo is a non-asian person obsessed with asian pop culture. It would be a hilarious backstory if it turned out Kai Leng is the Cerberus equivalent of that Shep fanboy and had some augmentation to change his race from white to an asian ninja so he could join Cerberus as a hitman.

thefncrow
Mar 14, 2001


oxford_town posted:

Something I enjoyed about Mass Effect 3: once you "confirm" your love interest, anyone else you were stringing along up to that point gets the message off-screen and is completely fine with being just friends.

Actually, they don't, not necessarily. I romanced Liara in ME1 and Miranda in ME2. I got the choice with Liara, and I went with her for ME3.

But then later I got Miranda's first email to meet on the Citadel, and she asks basically the same thing Liara did. I told her that things had changed, and it just crushes her. She makes a fairly quick excuse why she has to leave this very instant while trying to hide the fact that she's very visibly crying.

thetrin
May 4, 2009

I pull down the curtain, wantin to do me some dirtin aint nuthin better then jerkin my gerkin so I start with some flirtin

But my magic find aint working so I can't do no spurtin its got Wirt's feelins all hurtin, and his wooden leg stops all perking


Superstring posted:

I was lukewarm on Kai Leng until I realized a near death Thane almost beat him. Then it was like meh.

Also, is he supposed to be Japanese? What with being a space ninja and all. Japanese surnames are multisyllabic. That one bugs me the most. But probably because I'm asian and tired of different asians being one-size fits all culturally in media.

Yeah, that bothered me too. I don't know why his name isn't Japanese.

Dolphin Fetus
May 31, 2006

We must kill them. We must incinerate them. Pig after pig. Cow after cow. Village after village. Army after army.

kater posted:

Kai Leng should have been Conrad.

Conrad should have killed Kai Leng.

Blarghalt
May 19, 2010

MEAN GREEN CARTOGRAPHER PIRATE MACHINE


Dolphin Fetus posted:

Conrad should have killed Kai Leng.

Conrad is Kai Leng.

Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].



Superstring posted:

I was lukewarm on Kai Leng until I realized a near death Thane almost beat him. Then it was like meh.

Also, is he supposed to be Japanese? What with being a space ninja and all. Japanese surnames are multisyllabic. That one bugs me the most. But probably because I'm asian and tired of different asians being one-size fits all culturally in media.

Thane went out like a badass. I wish we'd gotten more of that in ME2 instead of "MY DEAD WIFE!"

Thwomp
Apr 9, 2003

BA-DUHHH

thefncrow posted:

Actually, they don't, not necessarily. I romanced Liara in ME1 and Miranda in ME2. I got the choice with Liara, and I went with her for ME3.

But then later I got Miranda's first email to meet on the Citadel, and she asks basically the same thing Liara did. I told her that things had changed, and it just crushes her. She makes a fairly quick excuse why she has to leave this very instant while trying to hide the fact that she's very visibly crying.

poo poo, now I'm pretty glad I stuck with her. Liara wasn't nearly so torn up when I declined her.

Agamembar
Jan 21, 2005

A USS Enterprise appears.
USS Enterprise uses 'Phaser Barrage'.
Its super effective.

Modus Operandi posted:

But a weeaboo is a non-asian person obsessed with asian pop culture. It would be a hilarious backstory if it turned out Kai Leng is the Cerberus equivalent of that Shep fanboy and had some augmentation to change his race from white to an asian ninja so he could join Cerberus as a hitman.

For a while I thought he was going to be a shepherd clone they had brain washed into believing he was a Cerberus assassin which explained his desire to beat you to prove he was better than the original but no, not that clever.

Zzulu
May 15, 2009


Speaking of Conrad, he had one of the best scenes in the game with the whole "slowmotion comedy jump"

AND he walked away with a girl

Flatscan
Mar 27, 2001

Outlaw Journalist



Agamembar posted:

For a while I thought he was going to be a shepherd clone they had brain washed into believing he was a Cerberus assassin which explained his desire to beat you to prove he was better than the original but no, not that clever.

You know something sucks when people are saying the plot of Star Trek Nemesis would have been better.

Cardboard Fox
Feb 8, 2009

[Tentatively Excited]


The renegade action alone at the end of the fight makes putting Kai Leng in the game worth it.

Drighton
Nov 30, 2005



Lady Gaga posted:

My Legion died because I couldn't convince the Quarians to back off so I had to choose between the Quarians and the Geth. I chose the Quarians because Tali is my BFF. Legion attacks Shepard, choking her, and Shepard or Tali shoots Legion. Legion dies asking, "Does this unit have a soul?" and Tali says "Yes."

I was playing renegade, and I never cared for Tali, so I sided with Legion and let her jump off a cliff. Then Legion sacrificed himself.

Is convincing the Quarians to back off part of the paragon game, or is there some kind of prerequisite from ME1 or ME2 that will unlock the "Everybody Lives!" option?

And now I want to mod Mass Effect into a Doctor Who game....

oxford_town
Aug 6, 2009


thefncrow posted:

Actually, they don't, not necessarily. I romanced Liara in ME1 and Miranda in ME2. I got the choice with Liara, and I went with her for ME3.

But then later I got Miranda's first email to meet on the Citadel, and she asks basically the same thing Liara did. I told her that things had changed, and it just crushes her. She makes a fairly quick excuse why she has to leave this very instant while trying to hide the fact that she's very visibly crying.

Oh no, I know that. I had the option to continue things with Ashley (my LI in 1), so I took all the positive dialogue options whilst she was in the hospital. I then met with Jack, agreed to continue things with her, and got the Paramour achievement. But Ashley never took me up on the sweet, sweet lies I had fed her earlier in the game, and the game treated us as just friends from then on despite that fact that she should really think that Shep is still interested.

Der Waffle Mous
Nov 27, 2009

In the grim future, there is only commerce.


He's just a character from one of those awful books.

Apparently he likes adrenaline and breakfast cereal.

ChronoReverse
Oct 1, 2009


Zzulu posted:

Speaking of Conrad, he had one of the best scenes in the game with the whole "slowmotion comedy jump"

AND he walked away with a girl

It was also hilarious when he went on that long spiel about mass effect weapons, heatsinks, and ammunition.

Preechr
May 19, 2009


Didn't Conrad have a wife, or was that some poo poo he made up to sound like he wasn't a total fuckup?

DFu4ever
Oct 4, 2002



thetrin posted:

Yeah, that bothered me too. I don't know why his name isn't Japanese.

It wouldn't surprise me if the writer thought Leng was a Japanese name.

Axialbloom
Jul 7, 2011

Teach Me! Mordin-sensei!



Dr. Abysmal posted:

I never triggered a single piece of dialog by walking past them for the entire game. They just stood there in silence, it made me wonder what the point of them even being there was.

Oh man that's a shame. Some of their dialogue is hilarious and if you encourage Kenneth to be honest about his feelings towards Gabby you can eventually walk in on them canoodling in the lower decks of engineering.

Marx
Oct 24, 2003

This was the greatest day of my life. Finally I could stand on my soapbox and tell you American scum that you got exactly what you deserved.
P.S. Sorry Osama that Americans were not compassionate enough to take you in peacefully. You deserved better.


Replace Kai Leng with a phantom who has a heavier dose of the standard black/gold Cerberus colors and take out all dialog. You can talk at it, but it never says a word.

Congratulations, you now have a better character than Kai Leng.

Lady Gaga
Sep 20, 2009


Oh god I just realized Aria was on the Citadel. She better live she's my favorite non-squad member.

Darko
Dec 23, 2004

Distrusting me was the wisest thing you've done.

oxford_town posted:

Oh no, I know that. I had the option to continue things with Ashley (my LI in 1), so I took all the positive dialogue options whilst she was in the hospital. I then met with Jack, agreed to continue things with her, and got the Paramour achievement. But Ashley never took me up on the sweet, sweet lies I had fed her earlier in the game, and the game treated us as just friends from then on despite that fact that she should really think that Shep is still interested.

Whoever you agree to romance immediately goes on the com and puts out a universe-wide announcement saying "Shepard and I are in love!"

Axialbloom
Jul 7, 2011

Teach Me! Mordin-sensei!



Preechr posted:

Didn't Conrad have a wife, or was that some poo poo he made up to sound like he wasn't a total fuckup?

He didn't have a wife. He made that up. There's actually an extensive amount of dialogue with Conrad that a lot of people miss. Probably because once you do a certain quest he disappears. Which is a shame because in my opinion it's some of the funniest dialogue in the game.

VVV Edit: Yeah you need to talk to him before he saves you. There's a large amount of dialogue and he can also become a War asset.

Axialbloom fucked around with this message at Mar 14, 2012 around 20:37

Lotish
Dec 10, 2008

I pick up my Devil Axe...
...and DEVIL!


Preechr posted:

Didn't Conrad have a wife, or was that some poo poo he made up to sound like he wasn't a total fuckup?

His wife paid for his shuttle fare off world. The implication is she wanted rid of him. I doubt she was there when he got back.

edit: ^^^ wait, what? He disappeared on me as soon as he appeared on the Citadel. "Saved" me and then poof!

Amdis
Jan 9, 2007



Drighton posted:

I was playing renegade, and I never cared for Tali, so I sided with Legion and let her jump off a cliff. Then Legion sacrificed himself.

Is convincing the Quarians to back off part of the paragon game, or is there some kind of prerequisite from ME1 or ME2 that will unlock the "Everybody Lives!" option?

And now I want to mod Mass Effect into a Doctor Who game....

Someone had a flow chart posted in the other thread but it basically comes down to having fulfilled a certain number of options. If they're done then at the point that legion is almost done uploading you'll get a paragon and a renegade option which basically involves shepard yelling at the quarians to stop being idiots.

Thwomp
Apr 9, 2003

BA-DUHHH

Darko posted:

Whoever you agree to romance immediately goes on the com and puts out a universe-wide announcement saying "Shepard and I are in love!"

In the future, the Citadel-Facebook automatically knows when to change your relationship status.

Mayor Dave
Feb 20, 2009

Leader (possibly) of the civilizing forces

Lady Gaga posted:

Oh god I just realized Aria was on the Citadel. She better live she's my favorite non-squad member.

She almost definitely made it off, how else could they sell the Take Back Omega DLC they teased so hard during the game?

Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

Emergency induction port.

Aladdin posted:

I think "You...big...stupid...jellyfish" wins as the best line in the game.

Ahem.

Zzulu
May 15, 2009


Kai wasn't a literal ninja so he doesn't have to be Japanese, guys

randombattle
Oct 16, 2008

This hand of mine shines and roars! It's bright cry tells me to grasp victory!



Preechr posted:

Didn't Conrad have a wife, or was that some poo poo he made up to sound like he wasn't a total fuckup?

Yeah it's either he made that up or his wife dumped him in ME2.

DFu4ever
Oct 4, 2002



Darko posted:

Whoever you agree to romance immediately goes on the com and puts out a universe-wide announcement saying "Shepard and I are in love!"

You should get a copy of an email sent from your chosen LI to all the other possible LIs telling them to "gently caress off, he's mine", shortly followed by a second email titled "DO NOT READ PREVIOUS EMAIL!!!!1"

Thulsa Doom
Jun 20, 2011

Ezekiel 23:20


Oh for gently caress's sake, he had a katana.

It would be hilarious if after killing him Shepard unmasked him and it turned out he was a grossly fat white man pressed into a muscle suit by mass effect fields.

Spite
Jul 27, 2001

Small chance of that...


Darko posted:

Whoever you agree to romance immediately goes on the com and puts out a universe-wide announcement saying "Shepard and I are in love!"

Liara would probably actually do this.

New Directive from the Shadow Broker: tell everyone that Cmdr Shepard is getting blue alien action tonight and to gently caress off.

Preechr
May 19, 2009


Heh, maybe his wife is the one talking to her Asari mistress right outside the elevator on the Presidium Commons.

Regarding the Quarians, in ME2 I thought Koris was a whining pussy and Gerrel was sympathetic, but misguided. Once I got to the Quarians in ME3, I found that Koris was actually an alright guy, and Gerrel was a total dick. Not bothered by it, just interesting.

Preechr fucked around with this message at Mar 14, 2012 around 20:38

thefncrow
Mar 14, 2001


Drighton posted:

I was playing renegade, and I never cared for Tali, so I sided with Legion and let her jump off a cliff. Then Legion sacrificed himself.

Is convincing the Quarians to back off part of the paragon game, or is there some kind of prerequisite from ME1 or ME2 that will unlock the "Everybody Lives!" option?

And now I want to mod Mass Effect into a Doctor Who game....

There is definitely a renegade option to make the Quarians back down. It may be tied to ME1 or ME2 actions, though.

What I got was that I got forced into making a choice between Geth or Quarian. Forced to choose, I chose Quarian. Legion pleads with you, at which point you're offered a second dialogue wheel. You can confirm what you just selected, but now there are Renegade/Paragon actions of [Rally the Fleet] (Paragon) and [Warn the Fleet] (Renegade).

Warn the Fleet has Shepard basically change his mind and tell Legion to begin the upload. Then he calls the Admirals and tells them that the Geth are returning to full strength in 30 seconds, and if they don't want to be obliterated, they have to turn back now. He goes on to further give them a big angry speech about how hosed up their command is, and that if they continue charging into certain doom, Shepard will watch with glee as the Geth destroy them completely. The Quarians back down after that.

Rad Valtar
May 31, 2011

"Some day coach I'm going to throw 6 TD's in a Super Bowl"

"Sit your ass down Steve"


So did anyone else allow Legion to upload the knowledge of the Reapers as he died and allow the entire Quarian race to be destroyed by the Geth? Because really those loving assholes had it coming. I also watched Admiral Ran get really pissed at me for allowing it and shoot herself in the head.

Thulsa Doom
Jun 20, 2011

Ezekiel 23:20


Darko posted:

Whoever you agree to romance immediately goes on the com and puts out a universe-wide announcement saying "Shepard and I are in love!"

Joker, I have mated with a woman/man/turian/asari/Kelly. Inform the men.

Darko
Dec 23, 2004

Distrusting me was the wisest thing you've done.

Preechr posted:

Didn't Conrad have a wife, or was that some poo poo he made up to sound like he wasn't a total fuckup?

He admits he made it up and has a shrine to Shepard in ME3 if you didn't get him killed in 2.

The Wall
Jan 2, 2012


Ambiguatron posted:

Oh for gently caress's sake, he had a katana.

He brought a knife to a gunfight.

This is why he was an easy boss.

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Zzulu
May 15, 2009


Shepard gives a great "I am tired of cleaning up your poo poo you idiots" renegade speech during the Quarian/Geth showdown.

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