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Fargin Icehole
Feb 18, 2011


The 100% Green Is based on your readiness? Well poo poo, no wonder. When you're not connected to the EA servers, It's automatically set to 50%, and I was maybe 15% ish away from achieving maximum war effort status.

Oh well. I guess in the end, none of this poo poo mattered. Even if I now commanded the reapers, they'd find some way to bring Shepard back, just like that little cute reveal for the Renegade ending.

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nippon nifties
Feb 20, 2006

dire dire ducks


Megaman's Jockstrap posted:

Just FYI if Bioware's site was hacked/crashed due to the ending we just lost all hope of ever getting it patched.

You can't give in to people who do stuff like that.

According to my friend:

posted:

: that's a page that comes up when you flip a switch in the drupal backend
: as such it means there's no problem with the server or database
: they just shut it off.
: those offline pages are customizable too so I guess they don't care for appearances.

Chatlog but whatever

Iseeyouseemeseeyou
Jan 3, 2011



Cardboard Fox posted:

I was thinking this as well. They could have broke the bank releasing DLC for all the planets that need to be rebuilt. Palaven, Thessia, and Earth would be 3 DLCs and almost everyone would buy them if the ending actually made sense.

We beat The Reapers using the crucible, now we have to rebuild the universe and put everything back together, stay tuned for the next DLC $$$$$$$$$

This is the reason minecraft is coming to/on xbox right?

Spacebump
Dec 23, 2003

Nowitzness

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

If Bioware uses that as an excuse to blow us off I will get even more pissed at them.

Bioware doesn't need excuses to blow off work. Example "space winter" or Tali's face.

Thwomp
Apr 9, 2003

BA-DUHHH

Fargin Icehole posted:

The 100% Green Is based on your readiness? Well poo poo, no wonder. When you're not connected to the EA servers, It's automatically set to 50%, and I was maybe 15% ish away from achieving maximum war effort status.

Oh well. I guess in the end, none of this poo poo mattered.

What's lame is that if you don't do every side quest, you won't get past the 4000 EMS threshold without MP. Also, your readiness declines over time (it doesn't take much to get it past 4-5000 but still).


What happens 3 years from now when you feel like going back through Mass Effect and can't find anyone to play with.

MindlessSpartan
Jul 22, 2007

An efficient, green vehicle with 5000 pounds of towing capacity.


Fargin Icehole posted:

Oh well. I guess in the end, none of this poo poo mattered. Even if I now commanded the reapers, they'd find some way to bring Shepard back, just like that little cute reveal for the Renegade ending.

Indoctrinated presence detected

Fargin Icehole
Feb 18, 2011


Also it's very wierd that I cared more about what happened to my squadmates than getting to the Citadel teleport thing. Only to find out that one of them (Ashley) was already in the Normandy when it crashed?

Where the gently caress were they going? It's not like I died in the Attican traverse or some poo poo.

Jarmel
Feb 18, 2012


Thwomp posted:

What's lame is that if you don't do every side quest, you won't get past the 4000 EMS threshold without MP. Also, your readiness declines over time (it doesn't take much to get it past 4-5000 but still).


What happens 3 years from now when you feel like going back through Mass Effect and can't find anyone to play with.

Supposedly it's flat out impossible to hit 4k EMS without multiplayer.

nippon nifties
Feb 20, 2006

dire dire ducks


Thwomp posted:

What happens 3 years from now when you feel like going back through Mass Effect and can't find anyone to play with.

They thought ahead

deepshock
Sep 26, 2008

Poor zombies never stood a chance.


Some non-ending spoilers concerning Overlord content: What it looks like is you CAN get the scientist from that DLC to kill himself if you were looking in vain for a 'shoot him' option back ON Overlord. Just 'let him worry' when you meet him on Arrae.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ino89MH5s1I (This video has the Renegade ending to Overlord first, which leads to David's demise. However, you gain Dr. Archer as war assets. The second segment is the Paragon ending to Overlord with the 'let him worry' option when you meet him here. This leads to him putting himself out to pasture.)

And here's the 'Let Dr. Archer know his brother is safe at Grissom' option, where you still tell him how much of a poo poo he is, with him agreeing! Most people here knew about this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv7UFi2pr0Y (Paragon ending to Overlord, inform him of his brother's safety at Grissom.)

I'm pretty sure you can save the academy AND let him worry at the same time. No doubt there are quite a few players who have.

deepshock fucked around with this message at Mar 16, 2012 around 20:26

Fargin Icehole
Feb 18, 2011


Jarmel posted:

Supposedly it's flat out impossible to hit 4k EMS without multiplayer.

I'm not gonna pay for gold membership just so I can get a green explosion on an ending.

(For the record, it's my account. I borrow someone else's for Multiplay, because I'm a cheapskate like that.)

Buuuut like I said, none of it matters. Way that I see it, they'll either revise the ending and continue some stuff like Bethesda did with Fallout 3 (Unlikely), or they'll bleed more customers dry for different war assets and squadmates you don't particularly care for, so that you don't need readiness to achieve 100%.

Fargin Icehole fucked around with this message at Mar 16, 2012 around 20:16

MindlessSpartan
Jul 22, 2007

An efficient, green vehicle with 5000 pounds of towing capacity.


Jarmel posted:

Supposedly it's flat out impossible to hit 4k EMS without multiplayer.

Thwomp posted:

What happens 3 years from now when you feel like going back through Mass Effect and can't find anyone to play with.
Just more evidence that these hacks decided that Green was the best ending because "perhaps the truth...is somewhere in the middle"

Cthulu Carl
Apr 16, 2006

Your words are as empty as your cereal bowl. I am the Vanguard of your Hanzo steel's destruction. This exchange is over...


MindlessSpartan posted:

Just more evidence that these hacks decided that Green was the best ending because "perhaps the truth...is somewhere in the middle"

Shouldn't it be color-coded purple then?

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

Slightly Amused



Cthulu Carl posted:

Not-Mordin died envisioning a planet-wide krogan orgy.

As funny as it is to keep calling this guy Not-Mordin, does he have a real name?

Cthulu Carl
Apr 16, 2006

Your words are as empty as your cereal bowl. I am the Vanguard of your Hanzo steel's destruction. This exchange is over...


Internet Kraken posted:

As funny as it is to keep calling this guy Not-Mordin, does he have a real name?

As Shep says after Joker cracks a joke after he dies: "HIS NAME IS PADOK WIKS!"

Mr.Unique-Name
Jul 5, 2002

Good. You read this avatar.
So you survived disagreeing with me about video games. The legend of Mr.Unique-Name needs to be rewritten.

Now it gets fun!

Cap'n Crunch? What is this shit?


The ending choices are a political statement. Think about it. Left is blue, right is red. Blue is all about control. Red is about burning everything and making necessary sacrifices.

The real answer is in the middle where you find utopohgodthishurtstowrite

Cthulu Carl
Apr 16, 2006

Your words are as empty as your cereal bowl. I am the Vanguard of your Hanzo steel's destruction. This exchange is over...


Mr.Unique-Name posted:

The ending choices are a political statement. Think about it. Left is blue, right is red. Blue is all about control. Red is about burning everything and making necessary sacrifices.

The real answer is in the middle where you find utopohgodthishurtstowrite

They clearly want us to vote Nader (Does he still run in the Green Party?)

Sacrificial Toast
Nov 5, 2009



So just out of curiosity, what characters other than Steve can be romanced beginning in ME3 rather than coming in from the previous games, and are there any significantly different scenes as a result?

Malek
Jun 22, 2003
What?

Jarmel posted:

Supposedly it's flat out impossible to hit 4k EMS without multiplayer.

This is incorrect. I'm sitting at 6.4k before the final mission with 50% multiplayer. (Yes that's after the multiplyer.)

You DO however need a Mass Effect 2 (or 1) save to achieve this high. The NPCs and previous decisions do add up on this. (Just not the ending. )

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Are you mocking me?

Mr.Unique-Name posted:

The ending choices are a political statement. Think about it. Left is blue, right is red. Blue is all about control. Red is about burning everything and making necessary sacrifices.

The real answer is in the middle where you find utopohgodthishurtstowrite

So you're saying I should vote for Ron Paulpard, who will turn everyone into crazy purestrain robots?

... Hmm, that does make sense.

Omnicarus
Jan 16, 2006



Cthulu Carl posted:

They clearly want us to vote Nader (Does he still run in the Green Party?)

gently caress you Gingrich and the Moon Bases all the way. HIT RED.

Sombrerotron
Aug 1, 2004

Release my children! My hat is truly great and mighty.

Mr.Unique-Name posted:

The ending choices are a political statement. Think about it. Left is blue, right is red. Blue is all about control. Red is about burning everything and making necessary sacrifices.

The real answer is in the middle where you find utopohgodthishurtstowrite
Green is typically associated with lefter-than-left-lefty-hippy-pinkos, so I'm not sure if this analogy works out that well.

Thwomp
Apr 9, 2003

BA-DUHHH

Sacrificial Toast posted:

So just out of curiosity, what characters other than Steve can be romanced beginning in ME3 rather than coming in from the previous games, and are there any significantly different scenes as a result?

I don't think Vega can be romanced.

There's aren't any new characters beside him and Steve.

ChronoReverse
Oct 1, 2009


Malek posted:

This is incorrect. I'm sitting at 6.4k before the final mission with 50% multiplayer. (Yes that's after the multiplyer.)

You DO however need a Mass Effect 2 (or 1) save to achieve this high. The NPCs and previous decisions do add up on this. (Just not the ending. )

6.4K EMS or just total assets? Can you show a screenshot of both your War Readiness and the War Assets listing?

It's easy to get even 7000 total assets.

Jarmel
Feb 18, 2012


Malek posted:

This is incorrect. I'm sitting at 6.4k before the final mission with 50% multiplayer. (Yes that's after the multiplyer.)

You DO however need a Mass Effect 2 (or 1) save to achieve this high. The NPCs and previous decisions do add up on this. (Just not the ending. )

You have a 6.4k after the Readiness multiplier? People have calculated everything and it seems to cap out around 3.5k. We're not talking about pure assets.

Cthulu Carl
Apr 16, 2006

Your words are as empty as your cereal bowl. I am the Vanguard of your Hanzo steel's destruction. This exchange is over...


Sacrificial Toast posted:

So just out of curiosity, what characters other than Steve can be romanced beginning in ME3 rather than coming in from the previous games, and are there any significantly different scenes as a result?

I think Traynor if your FemShep.

And PSP Licking reporter. But why would you considering how loving mutated she looks.


Omnicarus posted:

gently caress you Gingrich and the Moon Bases all the way. HIT RED.

Reapers took out Luna Base

Malek
Jun 22, 2003
What?

ChronoReverse posted:

6.4K EMS or just total assets? Can you show a screenshot of both your War Readiness and the War Assets listing?

It's easy to get even 7000 total assets.

EMS. At work at the moment but will gladly when I get home. Granted I had to loot every planet, do every side quest and paragon'd my way to a better universe.

Jarmel posted:

You have a 6.4k after the Readiness multiplier? People have calculated everything and it seems to cap out around 3.5k. We're not talking about pure assets.

I'm not either. My Total assets were around 12.8k.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010



Thwomp posted:

I don't think Vega can be romanced.

There's aren't any new characters beside him and Steve.
There are several other new characters on the Normandy, some of which can be romanced.

Decius
Oct 14, 2005

You would be wise not to take me lightly, Your Grace... and wiser still not to make of me a foe

Malek posted:

This is incorrect. I'm sitting at 6.4k before the final mission with 50% multiplayer. (Yes that's after the multiplyer.)

You DO however need a Mass Effect 2 (or 1) save to achieve this high. The NPCs and previous decisions do add up on this. (Just not the ending. )

Hm, 3700 is the highest I got doing basically everything as Paragon import from 1 and 2. I can't really see how you can get 6.4 k. You sure you're talking about EMS?

Jarmel
Feb 18, 2012


Malek posted:

EMS. At work at the moment but will gladly when I get home. Granted I had to loot every planet, do every side quest and paragon'd my way to a better universe.

There's no way there are over 12,000 war assets in the game including stuff from imports.

MadHat
Mar 31, 2011


Steve, Traynor, and Reporter Lady can all be romanced of the New Characters.

MindlessSpartan
Jul 22, 2007

An efficient, green vehicle with 5000 pounds of towing capacity.


Malek posted:

This is incorrect. I'm sitting at 6.4k before the final mission with 50% multiplayer. (Yes that's after the multiplyer.)

You DO however need a Mass Effect 2 (or 1) save to achieve this high. The NPCs and previous decisions do add up on this. (Just not the ending. )

So your total military score was 12,800?

Mr.Unique-Name
Jul 5, 2002

Good. You read this avatar.
So you survived disagreeing with me about video games. The legend of Mr.Unique-Name needs to be rewritten.

Now it gets fun!

Cap'n Crunch? What is this shit?


Thwomp posted:

I don't think Vega can be romanced.

There's aren't any new characters beside him and Steve.

Allers and Treynor.

thefncrow
Mar 14, 2001


Malek posted:

This is incorrect. I'm sitting at 6.4k before the final mission with 50% multiplayer. (Yes that's after the multiplyer.)

So your total assets is above 12000? Because Jeff Gerstmann was talking with someone who worked at EA/Bioware about the game and mentioned he had total assets of 6901, to which the response was "Oh, so you did pretty much a completionist playthrough".

TheAgent
Feb 16, 2002

The call is coming from inside Dr. House

MindlessSpartan posted:

So your total military score was 12,800?
Yeah, after doing everything from my ME1 import game my EMS was only around 7.5k with 100% readiness. I don't think there's nearly 13,000 points worth of war assets.

This is also after promoting 2 level 20 guys from multiplayer.

ChronoReverse
Oct 1, 2009


Malek posted:

I'm not either. My Total assets were around 12.8k.

Then we really need to see your War Assets listings (preferably expanded).

I'd say a large portion of people in this thread all have imports from ME1 and certainly never got even close to 12k total.

KaneTW
Dec 2, 2011

Jones killed Solaire! How could she.



I scanned every planet (I think) and did every sidemission but one or two and ended up around 7k total/3.5k EMS.


No way in hell you have 13k without modifying your save or game.

Jarmel
Feb 18, 2012


He's either flat out wrong or lying. There is NOT 12k in war assets in the game.

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.


In New Game+ your fish and models count as War Assets, maybe that's it!?!??!

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Thulsa Doom
Jun 20, 2011

Ezekiel 23:20


I rewrote the ending.

The game proceeds as normal through the conversation with the Illusive Man. Shepard opens the Citadel, and the Crucible docks. Shepard collapses and rises up on the platform, etcetera.

The Crucible activates as Shepard wakes up. It flickers through various forms. It starts off as Space Kid. Shepard's first question is along the lines of "Hey, how did you know how to look like that kid?" The AI gets nervous, changes to Anderson, then Ashley or Kaidan, and finally to the LI. Then, it turns into Harbinger, who lays it out for you.

The Reapers were originally built by a race at war with an artificial intelligence. The Reaper-creators couldn't defeat their AI adversaries on their own terms, so they uploaded themselves into Harbinger, the first Reaper.

Once they were uploaded, they realized their mistake. The AIs are right. Organic life is temporary and inferior. They consumed the AI they intended to destroy to enhance their own perfection, and then seeded the galaxy with Mass Effect technology to guide organic life along a particular path. Worthy species are harvested when they reach the peak of their civilization. The Reapers don't see the individual members of that species as worthy, but as materials to create a worthy being. They view the galaxy as their property, a garden to be tended.

The Crucible was left behind by a faction of the ancient creators who opposed the Reaper plan. It isn't an anti-Reaper weapon, but a gigantic off switch. The final component is Shepard herself, a being composed of both organic and Reaper technology. Shepard must interface with it. The Crucible doesn't have a brain or AI because its creators didn't trust that it wouldn't just join the Reapers; an organic being has to take control of it.

Depending on your assets, your options and their outcomes are:

-Order the self destruction of all Reaper derived technology everywhere. This is the "bad end". Everything made by Reapers will be destroyed- Reapers themselves, the Geth infused with reaper code, Mass Effect relays, the Citadel, and anything that has Reaper derived technology built into it. The end result is a galactic dark age. However, the way that element zero works is an innate feature of the material, so this option doesn't Space Magically make guns, starship drives, and non-Reaper tech that operates from the basic principles stop working. Society will rebuild, but it will take hundreds or thousands of years.

-Send out a shutdown code. The Reapers will go offline, but only temporarily. The fleet will have a few minutes to destroy the bulk of the Reaper force around Earth. If your war score is too low, you can pick this option, but it ends in failure, as not enough Reapers will be destroyed in the interim. If this option is chosen, the galaxy will have to fight off the remaining Reapers after the battle for Sol, which will still be a lengthy, grinding war, and there's still the risk they left reserves in dark space or prepared some other means of returning.

-Join the Reapers. This option requires Shepard to sacrifice herself by diving into the Crucible. The system will then merge Shepard's mind with the Reapers. They will experience everything Shepard experienced, and the gameplay choices will determine the outcome. In your dying moments, you talk to Harbinger. You have a Renegade option, where if you have a high enough check, you can get Harbinger to confess the real reason the Reapers reap- they are afraid that if they don't carefully control galactic history, a new race will arise and overthrow them. If you're a Renegade, you can talk them into striking out into the great void to spread their magnificence to other galaxies and leave ours alone for a time, immediately ending the war. If you're a Paragon, you can throw the Geth/Quarian peace and all your achievements in their faces, and with a high enough check, broker an uneasy peace.

I'd rather have a ripoff of the Berserker series than the incoherent poo poo we got.

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