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ImpAtom posted:Liara falls right into the classic "writing someone smarter than you" trap where she actually comes across as kind of dumb because we're told she's supposed to be a super-genius scientist/information broker/ect but the writers rarely can write around that fact becuase they either can't come up with ideas or the ideas they can come up with would nullify conflicts quickly. So Liara has to be stupid because if she was smart half this poo poo wouldn't happen. They came up with plenty of moments where a super smart person could be helpful to the player in a meaningful way. And gave them all to loving Traynor.
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sassassin posted:tbh I've not played it with from ashes installed. I'd like to think a paleontologist would go "Yeah, that makes sense" and the Pope would be the one to get super pissed. Internet Kraken posted:I just don't get how nobody figured out that the Asari were influenced by the protheans. Clearly it wasn't a big secret, and someone who spent their whole life studying protheans probably should have known this. Liara is terrible at everything. It's hilarious when you see the old stone painting thing of the Goddess and she's obviously a massive loving Prothean. How Liara didn't immediately make that connection when she saw Javik is bey- oh, it's just a plothole. Oh. sassassin posted:They came up with plenty of moments where a super smart person could be helpful to the player in a meaningful way. Oh man you're right. Does Liara ever do ANYTHING plot-important with her Shadow Broker Powers?
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sassassin posted:tbh I've not played it with from ashes installed. Cleatcleat posted:And then years later on they find out Christ was a t-rex. I want to believe!
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sassassin posted:They came up with plenty of moments where a super smart person could be helpful to the player in a meaningful way. I thought it was hilarious how Traynor kept moving the game along. She rocks.
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Dush posted:Oh man you're right. Does Liara ever do ANYTHING plot-important with her Shadow Broker Powers? She gets the whole Crucible thing started on Mars...and that's about it. I mean, to be fair, she's doing something with her Shadow Broker role almost every time you walk into her office...it's just almost never important to the player. Honestly, at this point, I don't even know why they bothered making her the Shadow Broker. LotSB probably should just have ended with Liara and Shep taking down the Shadow Broker and then there just not being one, because they have done almost nothing with actually making Liara the SB. In fact, what they've done is even worse because they weren't equipped to handle writing a character with that kind of power as a strict ally to Shepard. It really falls into what ImpAtom says - they gave Liara way too much power and then realized if they had her actually use it, half the fuckin' game wouldn't even happen because Shep would be informed beforehand. So they just kinda ignored it. Ugh. And yes, half the poo poo Traynor does should've been coming from Liara. And Miranda bugging Kai Leng to ultimately find the Cerberus base...that's yet another thing that could've come from the Shadow Broker position.
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Dush posted:Nah, I'd think she'd be more fascinated. It also makes a lot more sense logically than a literal interpretation of those legends. I dunno, it's just like - it seems like they put a lot of effort into making her mature up for LOTSB and ME3, and she's a much better character now, but she suddenly turns into a giant baby about some perfectly logical explanations for some mythological religion she's never shown to be heavily invested in. Why? You could also rationalize this one by saying, I dunno... her view of the Protheans has been recently shaded heavily by Javik being such a dickwad, and so she's upset they had such a big impact on the Asari's evolution? I guess? Or it was just hastily written and therefore kind of sloppy. Hmmmm I kind of took it that she was more upset about Thessia getting blown up than the revelation that the Protheans were behind Asari religion, to be honest. It's also one thing to see a broken, war torn place. It's another thing when that place is your home. Seeing Afghanistan in shambles would bother you less than seeing your hometown starting to look like Afghanistan. It would probably bother you if the place you grew up got blown off the face of the Earth. I don't think Liara is being a horrible space racist by getting more upset about her homeworld than other planets, I think most people would get a lot more upset about their world than others.
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OldMemes posted:So with snythesis, everyone has glowly things and the Reapers are like "Well, our job here is done" and go away forever? What? Yep, note the fumble between that and the lumbering machines they became in 3. Its been about 2.5 weeks since I finished this game, haven't had the heart to touch it again. Originally I wasn't necessarily mad at the end, but now I am. In fact, I'm mad at the whole loving game because I can't help but think that they hosed everything up du.. Whatever, this isn't worth it. Gammatron 64 posted:I kind of took it that she was more upset about Thessia getting blown up than the revelation that the Protheans were behind Asari religion, to be honest. This. That scene between her and Javik..hell the whole talky part of thessia in the temple and the after scene on the ship totally humanized Liara. I honestly think that was the best her character has ever been at. The Shep pep talk afterwards is pretty good too. And plus, even though they handled it badly through the series at times, you gotta remember that she's technically like 2 steps out of high school in Asari terms. Yeah she's basically Doogie Houser MD, but she's young. TyroneGoldstein fucked around with this message at May 1, 2012 around 14:17 |
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by themselves. Them going "ok organics, that's cool" and....going away (?) is just baffling.
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I just find it odd that there wasn't an opportunity to reveal the existence of the Thessian beacon. Granted its a massive Renegade action but done well it could've been a very interesting moral choice. Keep the existence of the Beacon hidden and keep the Asari on your side or reveal it causing severe fractures within Asari leadership meaning less Asari EMS but bringing extra support from outside interest groups (Like Aria). Also, Liara would probably dislike you but could be brought back onto your side with a successful Reputation check by pointing out the Asari hypocrisy or something. ("All information should be free Liara! Your people hid this from everyone!")
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sassassin posted:Since his defeat could well result in billions of deaths over the next few decades, it's worth getting upset about.
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ZuljinRaynor posted:I thought it was hilarious how Traynor kept moving the game along. Obviously this means Tryanor must be the new Shadow Broker. She can install glyph in her chessboard.
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Dush posted:I'd like to think a paleontologist would go "Yeah, that makes sense" and the Pope would be the one to get super pissed. Most palaeontologists would probably collapse in a heap and wonder why they never made the connection. Their entire academic career was based around determining which side of its mouth a t-rex liked to chew on based on fossilised teeth, completely missing that it also used a knife and fork while it ate and, you know, created us i.e. the important stuff. The Pope would probably take it worse (even though his religion just got 100x cooler), but gently caress it this analogy rules but I can't be bothered to take it further...
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Venmoch posted:I just find it odd that there wasn't an opportunity to reveal the existence of the Thessian beacon. Granted its a massive Renegade action but done well it could've been a very interesting moral choice. At the point in the game in which you hear about it, I doubt anyone would care very much. Compared to the Rannoch and Tuchanka choices it's petty irrelevant bullshit.
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Pineapple Salad posted:You guys, I ran into the most loving ridiculous glitch while playing MP. I got to the extraction zone at Firebase White one time, went to take cover, and promptly fell through the floor. For sixty seconds, I watched the firebase get smaller and smaller in the distance as I fell. I was still alive at the end of the countdown, but apparently not in the zone, so we didn't earn a Full Extraction bonus. The other day, the wife was playing and for some reason her character, for all intents and purposes, became a ghost. Everything looked normal, she could run around, shoot her guns, use powers, etc., but nothing affected anything (she couldn't do any damage to enemies) and enemies ignored her. She Nova-ed in circles around a nemesis, who just waited quietly for someone to come into range. This effect lasted the entire match, and not only did her team get the Full Extraction bonus, she also kept getting assist points any time anyone killed anything. loving bizzare. Favorite track? An End Once and For All.
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I had a terrain bug actually save our group yesterday. It was on FBW and I fell about 3 feet through the floor. I couldn't shoot anything or hit stuff with my powers, but I could revive my chumpals and my throws would at least cause enemies to make an attempt to dodge. Atlases just stared dumbfounded at the ground while my buddies wailed on them. Despite this the match showed me how absolutely terrible my IRL friends are. They went down every 4-5 seconds to a nemesis, a phantom, and a few troopers on Silver and this went on for easily like 20 minutes. I'm going to rename all my characters to Greg Jennings.
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Maybe I'm exaggerating, but I think this is pretty funny. I don't think we'd be analyzing so much of plotpoints like Thessia and Kai Leng if the ending were handled better. Instead, we have months to dick around and talk about the rest of the game while waiting for closure. Not that I disagree with any of the points being brought up.
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I didn't think so many people would get upset about how I felt about the ending. I mean, I did say it was BAD, and I don't like it, just not as much as people here do. It's not offensive, to me, it's just boring and lazy. And I guess I just can't get as much fervor or hatred up in myself for that ending like others can, which I guess makes it look like I'm some sort of ending apologist.
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:I didn't think so many people would get upset about how I felt about the ending. I mean, I did say it was BAD, and I don't like it, just not as much as people here do. It's not offensive, to me, it's just boring and lazy. And I guess I just can't get as much fervor or hatred up in myself for that ending like others can, which I guess makes it look like I'm some sort of ending apologist. There's quite a few posts like this, and I've gotta ask - did you play all the games in the trilogy? I'm not saying everyone who did was upset about the ending and everyone who didn't wasn't, but it always makes me wonder. Plenty of people played them all and felt pretty invested and the ending is really dissapointing in a number of ways, it's no wonder they'd get super pissed.
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Dush posted:There's quite a few posts like this, and I've gotta ask - did you play all the games in the trilogy? I'm not saying everyone who did was upset about the ending and everyone who didn't wasn't, but it always makes me wonder. Plenty of people played them all and felt pretty invested and the ending is really dissapointing in a number of ways, it's no wonder they'd get super pissed. I honestly felt the same way when I first saw it (I said as much in the thread). I wasn't really 'angry' about it. I'm still not, but I am angry at other things about the game due to the ending.
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Dush posted:There's quite a few posts like this, and I've gotta ask - did you play all the games in the trilogy? I'm not saying everyone who did was upset about the ending and everyone who didn't wasn't, but it always makes me wonder. Plenty of people played them all and felt pretty invested and the ending is really dissapointing in a number of ways, it's no wonder they'd get super pissed. Yes, I played and enjoyed all three games. Like I said, I don't like the ending, in fact I think it's nearly impossible to see that ending and not hate it. But I like 3, and the series as a whole.
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Dush posted:There's quite a few posts like this, and I've gotta ask - did you play all the games in the trilogy? I'm not saying everyone who did was upset about the ending and everyone who didn't wasn't, but it always makes me wonder. Plenty of people played them all and felt pretty invested and the ending is really dissapointing in a number of ways, it's no wonder they'd get super pissed. Most of these types of posts come right after the person has finished the game, though. Then a few days later they come back and are angry. It just kind of eats away at you the more you think about it.
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I never thought Thessia was as bad as some of you make it out to be, Kai Leng asside. To me it showed that the Asari were just flat out assholes instead of just the pompous assholes that they're made out to be in previous games. They act like they're the smartest, sexiest, etc... but all the while, their civilization was uplifted by direct intervention of the Protheans. They couldn't even figure out basic stuff (I think written language was given as an example in the temple? I'm not sure.) on their own. Ontop of that, their technological edge came from being able to leech of a fully functional Prothean beacon that had an actual intact database and flipping VI (not just a distress beacon like on Eden Prime). To sweeten the deal, the Asari were also the ones who insisted that withholding any and all Prothean technological findings from the council, would result in almost the most severe of punishments. For me, it was basically saying that the entire Asari culture was nothing but a big lie while making GBS threads on everyone else. The shift in Liara's character I personally attest to the problem finally hitting home instead of someone else's place, combined with the revelation of Asari culture being the galaxy's biggest farce. About Shepard after Thessia, I never thought he was torn up because he simply lost to Kai Leng. It's that he's lost the crucial key to activate the crucible to Cerberus, and initially has no damned clue where to look for them. Shepard had to look for a needle in a haystack the size of the Galaxy, and didn't have the time to do it since the reapers were advancing on every front. I'd be loving depressed too if I was in his situation. There is basically no hope of finding it, no option B or C, while the devil comes knocking on your door. edit: Favorite track ? From the Wreckage Batham fucked around with this message at May 1, 2012 around 16:40 |
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Dush posted:There's quite a few posts like this, and I've gotta ask - did you play all the games in the trilogy? I'm not saying everyone who did was upset about the ending and everyone who didn't wasn't, but it always makes me wonder. Plenty of people played them all and felt pretty invested and the ending is really dissapointing in a number of ways, it's no wonder they'd get super pissed. I played them all, mass effect 2 must have got 20+ playthroughs from me (1 run for all classes with male and female variants on insanity, a few gimmick run throughs on the others) and ME1 was my timesink for about a year, I think. And yes, the ending is bad but I'm still not as angry as some people are. Despite thinking about it. Guess I like lots of speculation (the pointless my head canon is better than your head canon argument).
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Batham posted:About Shepard after Thessia, I never thought he was torn up because he simply lost to Kai Leng. It's that he's lost the crucial key to activate the crucible to Cerberus, and initially has no damned clue where to look for them. Shepard had to look for a needle in a haystack the size of the Galaxy, and didn't have the time to do it since the reapers were advancing on every front. I'd be loving depressed too if I was in his situation. There is basically no hope of finding it, no option B or C, while the devil comes knocking on your door. This is exactly what I thought too. Actually, I decided that Kai Leng was so bad that I created some of Shepard's thoughts to make me feel better about it. So Shepard loses the Prothean VI to some Cerberus dickwad, but whenever anyone mentions Kai Leng to him/her, he/she just thinks "Who? What? Oh that guy, what's his name again?" Like Shepard completely forgot about any of his/her encounters with that character. Shepard thinks that a Reaper blew up the temple, tripped and fell through a hole in the ground, and fumbled the VI, which some Cerberus douchebag picked up. In fact, Shepard completely ignores the existence of anime-dude right up to the point of breaking his stupid sword and stabbing him.
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:I didn't think so many people would get upset about how I felt about the ending. I mean, I did say it was BAD, and I don't like it, just not as much as people here do. It's not offensive, to me, it's just boring and lazy. And I guess I just can't get as much fervor or hatred up in myself for that ending like others can, which I guess makes it look like I'm some sort of ending apologist. I didn't get mad at the ending, I just laughed at it for being so lazy, pretentious, and bad. When I heard Bioware called their fans 'dumb' for not getting their 'artistic vision', that's when I got mad. I hate pretentious fuckers parading their poo poo around as art and thinking this makes them deep. Red-Leg Scissorman fucked around with this message at May 1, 2012 around 17:16 |
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Batham posted:I never thought Thessia was as bad as some of you make it out to be, Kai Leng asside. To me it showed that the Asari were just flat out assholes instead of just the pompous assholes that they're made out to be in previous games. They act like they're the smartest, sexiest, etc... but all the while, their civilization was uplifted by direct intervention of the Protheans. The thing is though - this is what they meant to show and portray, but it isn't what actually happened. I'm going to talk about why the whole Beacon thing pisses me off and I think it's just poorly written garbage. Okay, so you mention that the Asari are boosted because their bit of Prothean Tech has a fully functional VI - except there's no reason the Asari should've been able to actually interact with this VI. Remember that when Shepard gets there, it just seems to be a statue and a temple. It takes the Beacon recognizing a Prothean presence (Shep's cypher/Javik) to activate, not an Asari. It doesn't activate for Liara. And when it activates, the entire statue crumbles into pieces. That the statue is still standing when Shepard arrives very likely means that the Asari never actually activated the VI, which also makes sense because how would the Asari activate it anyway? There's more problems though - if the Asari did somehow find a way to fully activate the Beacon - this raises more questions. First of all, it means the Asari have a way to understand Prothean tech. This means Shepard isn't unique or special - and then the entire beginning of ME1 is thrown into question. Why was Shepard sent to get the Beacon? If the Asari can understand Prothean tech, why wasn't a high ranking Asari sent to retrieve it? If the Asari can understand Prothean tech, why don't they know about the Reapers? It seems ridiculous to think that the Protheans never would've mentioned the Reapers in a beacon the Asari found - hell, Javik even complains that the galaxy was unprepared for the Reapers because he said the Protheans did exactly that - they left warnings about the Reapers in multiple beacons all over the place. As well, there's just a problem with the portrayal of the Asari. If they can understand Prothean tech - why aren't they actually that much more advanced than other races? They seem to be on equal or lower footing than the Turians or Salarians - so much for that huge advantage from the Beacon! It seems to have done nothing more than give them a head start ages ago in the past and was why they were the first spacefaring race and the one to basically start galactic civilization - but in the modern times it seems to have offered them nothing to put them actually ahead. So then it comes to this - if they either actually can't understand Prothean tech, or it's not actually giving them any advantage, then why is it such a big deal that they have it, and why bother hiding it? The whole thing is just riddled with plot holes because it was poorly thought out and rushed. Like the entire Thessia segment. It seems okay the first time you go through, but if you think about it, it just makes no sense at all.
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Myrdhale posted:I didn't get mad at the ending, I just laughed at it for being so lazy, pretentious, and bad. When I heard Bioware called their fans 'dumb' for not getting their 'artistic vision', that's when I got mad. Oh, I didn't hear about this.
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Yeaaah, that's the thing that set alot of people off. When fans called out the writers on the poo poo ending, the responce was essentially; "YOU CAN'T HATE IT, MORONS, LOOK AT ALL THE PERFECT SCORES IT GOT! YOU PEOPLE ARE JUST STUPID PLEBES WHO DON'T KNOW ART WHEN YOU SEE IT! ENTITLED BABIES! I'M GOING TO TALK TO THE GAME JOURNALISTS WHO KISS MY rear end, THEY'LL UNDERSTAND HOW GREAT I AM!" Thus, anger. It's one thing to serve us up poo poo and admit it's poo poo, at least then we can forgive them because of release dates and budget constraints. It's another to serve us poo poo, and when we ask why it's poo poo, call us entitled and spit in our face.
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Myrdhale posted:I had pretentious fuckers parading their poo poo around as art and thinking this makes them deep. That's silly, if you can understand it, it isn't art! If we want to have an artistic vision we have to make it as incomprehensible as possible. 
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Siets posted:Didn't see this posted anywhere yet, so I'll share. Jimmy Hinson from OC Remix put out a pretty great remix album of 8 tracks from Mass Effect 1. Apparently, he spoke in person with Jack Wall and Wall personally requested that Hinson do this project. The album is completely free on Hinson's site here: Dush posted:I cannot BELIEVE you didn't pay attention to Video Games Masterpiece FF7. loving plebian. Uh, duh, the theme of Aeris getting stabbed is obviously...
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:Oh, I didn't hear about this. Oh, it was pretty widespread to the point where Forbes was writing about it: http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkai...er-entitlement/ Grey Fox V2 posted:Aeris died. Nerds Cried. I admit it. I cried. I was a big emotional baby when I was young. Things got to me. Now I'm a cynical bastard...that still cries, but manly tears now. MANLY. Berk Berkly fucked around with this message at May 1, 2012 around 17:24 |
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Aristobulus posted:As well, there's just a problem with the portrayal of the Asari. If they can understand Prothean tech - why aren't they actually that much more advanced than other races? They seem to be on equal or lower footing than the Turians or Salarians - so much for that huge advantage from the Beacon! It seems to have done nothing more than give them a head start ages ago in the past and was why they were the first spacefaring race and the one to basically start galactic civilization - but in the modern times it seems to have offered them nothing to put them actually ahead. The Asari hit "high tech" level, and then stagnated because all the young Asari are strippers or hookers or both, all the middle-aged Asari are commandoes and huntresses, and all the old Asari Matriarchs are intellectual advice-givers. There's just no room in there for a scientist age period.
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rotinaj posted:The Asari hit "high tech" level, and then stagnated because all the young Asari are strippers or hookers or both, all the middle-aged Asari are commandoes and huntresses, and all the old Asari Matriarchs are intellectual advice-givers. Its like the old Elves vs Humans thing in D&D. Elves live for-loving-ever. Requiring several hundred years to reach 'maturity'. Humans on the other hand, live a measly 80 years, so they have to actually get on the loving ball and get poo poo done. So why is a level 1 elven character pretty much as strong as a level 1 human character? You'd think having the benefit of hundreds of years of age would give you a massive advantage, right? Because they have no drive. They believe they have all the time in the world. They don't have to worry about dying of old age anytime soon, and as such most of their time is dedicated to faffing about. Edit: Actually, now that I think about it, the Asari are pretty much blue skinned space elves. The quiet 'You're another race and you think you're civilized and that your culture could ever compare to ours. That's so cute!' judgement, the 'humans suck because they are short lived and instead of waiting a couple hundred years to test things out demand things get changed right now' mentality, and the fact that even when the galaxy is crumbling around them the Asari councilor still can't fess up to anyone but the one sole light of hope in the Galaxy. Not even telling the Turians and the Salarians about it, implying that they still believe they're too special to be judged like all the other species in the galaxy. E-Tank fucked around with this message at May 1, 2012 around 17:38 |
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Berk Berkly posted:I admit it. I cried. I was a big emotional baby when I was young. Things got to me. Now I'm a cynical bastard...that still cries, but manly tears now. MANLY. Not to go too off-topic, but I was still pretty shaken up. Honestly though, the first time I beat Final Fantasy X, I cried during the ending. To this day, I still can't beat Persona 3 without crying either. Every loving time! I am an emotional baby when it comes to really well-done plot devices, and I am not afraid to admit it. This is one more reason why Tuchanka is so awesome in ME3. Mordin and Wrex put forth some of the most heartfelt themes in the series, and I genuinely felt sadness when Mordin died, but I also felt so much pride in the choice he made. I saluted the TV screen when I watched him go up that elevator.
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Myrdhale posted:Yeaaah, that's the thing that set alot of people off. When fans called out the writers on the poo poo ending, the responce was essentially; That's what set me off. I was disappointed, yeah, but I wasn't mad until Bioware decided to act like giant manbabies about it. If they had merely acted like adults in this situation, I would still have respect for the company.
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They never actually called anybody stupid or babies (although they certainly imply it). A lot of what you guys think is an affront to you is actually a dogwhistle to the gaming press.
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The Grimace posted:This is one more reason why Tuchanka is so awesome in ME3. Mordin and Wrex put forth some of the most heartfelt themes in the series, and I genuinely felt sadness when Mordin died, but I also felt so much pride in the choice he made. I saluted the TV screen when I watched him go up that elevator. The ends of Tuchanka and Rannoch are the first times I've smiled at a game for a long time. Giving the krogan, quarians and geth peace is extremely satisfying. Doesn't help that I like them a lot as species. 
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:They never actually called anybody stupid or babies (although they certainly imply it). A lot of what you guys think is an affront to you is actually a dogwhistle to the gaming press. Stanly Woo and Fatass Priestly are Bioware employees.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:They never actually called anybody stupid or babies (although they certainly imply it). A lot of what you guys think is an affront to you is actually a dogwhistle to the gaming press. That is true (I remember your earlier post, it was quite well thought out and written), but it ends up having the same effect. Instead of responding to fan criticism and listening to complaints, they seal themselves off with the heavily invested press core that always tells them how awesome they are. They ignore us in favour of those who tell them how great their art is, and those are the ones who proceeded to call everyone entittled brats. They tell us if we want games to be art, then we can't complain about it. In the end, it amounts to telling fans they aren't listening to them, and if the fans didn't think it was artistic, tough poo poo, fans aren't the people who matter. e: Shimrra Jamaane posted:Stanly Woo and Fatass Priestly are Bioware employees. yeah, and those assholes.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Stanly Woo and Fatass Priestly are Bioware employees. Oh well yes. They are horrible idiots. To be honest I completely forgot about them. I'm talking about the more 'official' press releases and blogs and stuff, not the terrible behavior of their so-called 'community managers'. Myrdhale posted:Instead of responding to fan criticism and listening to complaints, they seal themselves off with the heavily invested press core that always tells them how awesome they are. Look I think the Extended Cut is a terrible idea, but you can't say that they didn't respond to fan criticism. We are getting a free 'enhanced' ending - which, if you believe Weekes, is really a rewrite disguised as an enhancement. That's not really 'sealing off' (imo it's a misguided response to criticism, and many other things, but not a complete non-response). Also to my knowledge they gave the fans the opportunity to take them on face-to-face and got soft-balled at PAX, you can't really blame the gaming press for that one. Megaman's Jockstrap fucked around with this message at May 1, 2012 around 18:18 |
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Berk Berkly posted:I admit it. I cried. I was a big emotional baby when I was young. Things got to me. Now I'm a cynical bastard...that still cries, but manly tears now. MANLY. "Shepard-Commander, I must go to them. I'm sorry..." "Had to be me. Someone else might have gotten it wrong."  Say what you will about the game, but those two scenes are amazing. There's so many great character moments in this entry in the series...(Kelly Chambers RIP neva forget)  Best music for me, is "Vigil" - it just captures the joy and wonder of space travel, and it's so nice and reflective when it plays during the sadder moments.
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