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Amateur Saboteur
Feb 5, 2010

The galaxy's most dangerous cereal killer.

Mass Effect 3 is a video game with an ending.

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Amateur Saboteur
Feb 5, 2010

The galaxy's most dangerous cereal killer.

opblaaskrokodil posted:

I was really disappointed the Illusive Man was indoctrinated. It's such a cheap reason for him to be doing what he was doing .
And what IS up with his eyes? He had freaky eyes back in ME2 when I assume he wasn't indoctrinated at that point (otherwise what the gently caress was he doing stopping the Reapers).

e: also I hated the ending and wanted the option (even if really hard) to have a "happy" ending where Shepard lives, the relays survive, reapers are dead (or otherwise not a threat...). I figured that went without saying
TIM was indoctrinated before he started Cerberus when he found some Reaper tech somewhere, sometime I dunno I was in Borders one day and there was a comic book with him on the cover so I skimmed it and yeah.

Amateur Saboteur
Feb 5, 2010

The galaxy's most dangerous cereal killer.

Lloyd Boner posted:

Because Bioware didn't think about the lovely ending they wrote.
You guys want a serious loving laugh check this out. It's a google doc complied by Biofan spergs that lists like 100 things that the writer for the novel (who is the exact same lead writer for the game) wrote that contradict Mass Effect's own lore some of it to a ridiculous degree. Keep in mind all these novels are canon.

Amateur Saboteur
Feb 5, 2010

The galaxy's most dangerous cereal killer.

^^^ There's one if you have From Ashes that jizzes himself that he gets touched by an Enkindler (Javik)

Two Finger posted:

Why are you arguing with me about this when the biggest flaw with the whole game was the fact that black shepard had a white son and was totally cool with it, who was keeping his bed warm?

Ha, you thought the Grandpa at the end was Shepard.

Amateur Saboteur
Feb 5, 2010

The galaxy's most dangerous cereal killer.

Isaacs Alter Ego posted:

Then why the hell would he spend the most resources pretty much ever spent ever to revive Shepard, the only guy to ever have killed one of the things? If he's indoctrinated, that would seem to imply he's on the reaper's side, but all of his actions would dictate that he is not except for at the very end being arbitrarily not able to kill them. It makes no sense at all, I mean, in ME2 he's not a psychopath and in ME3 he is. Bah.


gently caress if I know, dude just buy this and find out why the plot makes no sense!

At least then you'd get this sweet pic of TIM totally not forcing this turian to have sex with him at gunpoint

And let me guess you probably had no clue the leader of Cerberus was actually Cyclops eh?

Amateur Saboteur fucked around with this message at Mar 11, 2012 around 06:53

Amateur Saboteur
Feb 5, 2010

The galaxy's most dangerous cereal killer.

Axel Serenity posted:

Really, I'm not all too upset about the endings, though i will echo that they were a little short and should have fleshed out what happened to your crew buddies a little more. And it would have been nice to see something a little more tailored to all of your choices rather than whatever one you make in the last five minutes of the game. But, I destroyed the Reapers and my Shepard lived so I really can't complain.

You can complain about the 60 trillion aliens you just murdered by stranding them on their barren homeworlds without the intergalactic resources they need to survive and the fact that you destroyed every kid in the universe's gameboy and playstation.

Amateur Saboteur
Feb 5, 2010

The galaxy's most dangerous cereal killer.

Is there any actual reason Shepard survived a near direct hit from a beam that the Codex explicitly mentions can obliterate even the Alliance's largest Dreadnoughts in a single blow?

VVV I got Garrus Liara; both my most used and the two with me in the final battle..

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Amateur Saboteur
Feb 5, 2010

The galaxy's most dangerous cereal killer.

Can we share gameplay differences so I don't have to play again to see what I missed? Like someone who got the shittiest ending describe to me how earth supposedly gets destroyed.

And someone born on Earth is Shep all like "...I was raised on these streets, now I'm takin' 'em back "

Amateur Saboteur
Feb 5, 2010

The galaxy's most dangerous cereal killer.

Slim Killington posted:


I just had a sudden flashback to reading the epilogue of the last "The Dark Tower" novel where Stephen King basically writes "well, I couldn't think of a good ending so well here ya go, but reading the books up to here was pretty sweet right?".

Amateur Saboteur
Feb 5, 2010

The galaxy's most dangerous cereal killer.

I said come in! posted:

God, there was some hilarious poo poo in ME3. I got quite a few laughs out of some of the stuff I encountered. At least Bioware has a sense of humor. The news reporter that is finally ready for your upper punch was pure gold. But she still got her rear end knocked out in the end!
Anyone else get drunk Tali/Ashley, they were both sufficiently humorous.

Amateur Saboteur
Feb 5, 2010

The galaxy's most dangerous cereal killer.

randombattle posted:


To be absolutely fair and not trying to defend the terrible ending, but all things considered the dude just got railed by 500 gigatons of reaper payload and had a giant hole in his abdomen. If that poo poo happens to me and I'm still alive I'm probably complying with the talking computer god kid thing when I have no more cards up my sleeve anyway.

Amateur Saboteur
Feb 5, 2010

The galaxy's most dangerous cereal killer.

randombattle posted:

gently caress it this is my ending

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAmVVAjZZeM

MY SHEPARD IS THE SHEPARD THAT WILL PIERCE THE HEAVENS!
From a weeaboo perspective this kind of owns.

Amateur Saboteur
Feb 5, 2010

The galaxy's most dangerous cereal killer.

Mass Effect should have ended like the Sopranos with Garrus foreshadowing about getting shot in the back of the head saying repeatedly over the course of the game some variation of "I bet you never hear it happen". And indeed Shepard is about to on-switch the Crucible..he's slowly staggering up to the switch aaaaaaaaand cut to black.

*Journey plays*

credits.

Amateur Saboteur
Feb 5, 2010

The galaxy's most dangerous cereal killer.

I see alot of people tossing around "ME4". There's going to be more Mass Effect universe for sure, but they've said the title "Mass Effect" is Shepard's story and ends with 3 so if they do anything else with the IP it will be a prequel or very distant future likely.

Plus the 'mass effect' is effectively dead with all the relays gone so it makes sense.

Amateur Saboteur
Feb 5, 2010

The galaxy's most dangerous cereal killer.

TheJoker138 posted:

But...But they said nothing in my ending about the relays being dead. Why are the relays dead no matter what you picked?
I don't know why does Cyborg Shepard get to live if you destroy all synthetic life in the galaxy?

Amateur Saboteur
Feb 5, 2010

The galaxy's most dangerous cereal killer.

Guys, guys remember when some of you were so upset that you fought a T-800 at the end of 2 and ranted about it? Hoo boy I bet you'd take that ending any day now.

Amateur Saboteur
Feb 5, 2010

The galaxy's most dangerous cereal killer.

randombattle posted:

Mass Effect 3 will forever be a fantastic game full of fantastic moments that will never be talked about because of how bad the ending is.
I don't think you realize a ton of guys play Mass Effect like Halo and couldn't give 2 fucks about the story as long as they get to shoot poo poo and motorboat alien titties so I don't think the legacy will be that diminished except by hardcore fans and goons; who mostly hate Bioware anyway.

Amateur Saboteur
Feb 5, 2010

The galaxy's most dangerous cereal killer.

Mehrunes posted:

The synthesis ending doesn't make any loving sense at all. This isn't Blade Runner, that's actually good writing. This makes even less sense than "RED MATTER" (i.e. Black Hole droplets). You can't just smear everything with translucent circuitry and say you've solved anything. It doesn't make any sense! Aghh!
That's cute how you singled that ending out like it somehow makes significantly less sense than the other 2.

Amateur Saboteur
Feb 5, 2010

The galaxy's most dangerous cereal killer.

TheJoker138 posted:

Them having the one Prothean we ever see be a huge dickhole to everyone instead of the enlightened scholar that they were always made out to be was actually a stroke of genius, and a great twist on expectations. It sucks that he was day 1 dlc, cause I can't imagine playing the game without his interactions with the rest of the crew (I never used him on a single mission though).
I felt strongly obligated to take him to Tuchunka to fight the first Reaper. I'm glad he reacted to it appropriately as well something like "This will be my first taste of Reaper blood but not my last!"

Amateur Saboteur
Feb 5, 2010

The galaxy's most dangerous cereal killer.

xeria posted:

He's really at his best if you take him to the asari homeworld with Liara, but I also liked his interjections when talking to Wrex on Sur'kesh.

Wrex: "I like to eat salarian livers."
*Salarian guard narrows his eyes*
Javik: "They are quite a delicacy."
Salarian guard: "......."

I'm on my second playthrough and I've been taking him on every mission just to see what else he has to say as he meets 'new' races and we go to different homeworlds.
"Salarians? The lizard people evolved???"

"..I think they're amphibians.."

"They used to eat flies "

Amateur Saboteur
Feb 5, 2010

The galaxy's most dangerous cereal killer.

^Don't forgot those non-sapient crab things you can roadkill on Virmire

I can almost cry thinking of the scene where Shep, Garrus, Jacob, and Javik kick back and knock down some nattys on the Citadel that will never happen .

Amateur Saboteur
Feb 5, 2010

The galaxy's most dangerous cereal killer.

kevdude posted:

I felt that the destroy ending was the only "real" ending based on how the game and story and choices had gone for the entire series. Instead of just making it one of the choices, they should have made it the default and branched off from there. I was shocked that the synthesis and control options were even presented to me, it just seemed like a giant dump on the where the game was steering you.

I am also still pretty upset about Mordin Best videogame character of all-time in my opinion.
Destroy is outlandishly Renegade and goes against Paragon Shep's core personality (even moreso than the other 2) It's almost literally sacrificing trillions of lifeforms to potentially save his own in perhaps the most selfish move in existence ever

Amateur Saboteur
Feb 5, 2010

The galaxy's most dangerous cereal killer.

ThePutty posted:

From what I saw in that space battle, they were bombing it's arms and they started to fall off, not a giant strike.
In the final scenes the entire galactic fleet (every loving active ship in the galaxy) kill maybe 2 or 3 of the hundreds of Reapers while getting downed by the dozens per second.

Amateur Saboteur
Feb 5, 2010

The galaxy's most dangerous cereal killer.

WAR FOOT posted:

It interesting, as the kid discusses the paths, you see The Illusive Man attempting Control, and Anderson having a go at Destroy.

It seemed natural that Shepard would do what Anderson would.
As stated before Shepard -- a character as built up over 3 games wouldn't take any of the options ever. It just isn't him. Renegade has some small compatibilities but that's because that mentality is kill first don't care that you gently caress over billions later.

Amateur Saboteur
Feb 5, 2010

The galaxy's most dangerous cereal killer.

kevdude posted:

One dude taking control of the machines hellbent on murdering the trillions of innocents is perfectly fine? Turning all life into part robot likely against their will is perfectly fine? You're being a bit hyperbolic here.
And you're being ignorant of my post

Amateur Saboteur posted:

As stated before Shepard -- a character as built up over 3 games wouldn't take any of the options ever. It just isn't him. Renegade has some small compatibilities but that's because that mentality is kill first don't care that you gently caress over billions later.
So, no none of them are fine; that's why people think the ending is bad! Because of how not fine the options are!

Amateur Saboteur
Feb 5, 2010

The galaxy's most dangerous cereal killer.

I'm still convinced being a cyborg no matter how contrived is the only way anyone in the new galaxy survives and deals with being stranded on random planets with not enough organic resources.

Amateur Saboteur
Feb 5, 2010

The galaxy's most dangerous cereal killer.

inthesto posted:

So I just beat the game and I don't think I need to beat the "the ending sucks" drum any more. Even before the final cinematic, the whole deus ex ghost kid sequence was terribly hamfisted at best.

The concern I really want to voice is this: Does anyone else get the sense that each game in the series was written by a different team, each one in isolation from the others? Cerberus does the best job of representing the disconnect between each game. In ME1, they're a horrible terrorist group that performs live experiments and murders an admiral in cold blood. In ME2, they're shady but have the right goals and all the terrible poo poo they did is handwaved away by Miranda. Then in ME3 they're right back to the terrorist angle, except now it's pushed far over the top with a healthy dose of "NO I USED YOU" as garnish.

Then you just get other poo poo like Harbinger being a complete afterthought in ME3, each of the games having gigantic plot holes inbetween them, and drastic shifts in tone in each game. It's like they were all working off the same notes but had zero collaboration.
Well, they do enough retcon to fill in the Cerberus hole I feel. In 2 they retcon 1 as a splinter group much like the ones who hosed with Jack. Then in 3 they double retcon when you watch the vids and they were always pretty darn evil but they put alot of lipstick on it (recruited new, friendly faces like Kelly Chambers and Chef Boyardee to give you the impression "hey these guys are downright jovial!" As well as blanketing you with familiar faces like Joker and Chakwas to make you forget your previous impression of them.

If you look at ME1 Cerberus then 3 you can see how they mesh so just chalk 2 up to deception.

Amateur Saboteur
Feb 5, 2010

The galaxy's most dangerous cereal killer.

inthesto posted:

Haha, holy poo poo this does indeed explain a lot. Apparently my guess of "different writers, same notes, no collaboration" wasn't all that far off the mark.

That said, does Tali's face ever actually get revealed?
Bioware ripped a stock photo from google and photoshopped it to be Tali's face.

That isn't a joke.

Amateur Saboteur
Feb 5, 2010

The galaxy's most dangerous cereal killer.

TheJoker138 posted:

Apparently it's not a stock photo that they changed slightly, at least according to some random blogger who says he ran this:



through some photoshop fuckery and ended up with this:



E: Fixed for table breaking.

http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/p...image/123488108
All I know there's this.

Amateur Saboteur
Feb 5, 2010

The galaxy's most dangerous cereal killer.


This is also a thing.

Amateur Saboteur
Feb 5, 2010

The galaxy's most dangerous cereal killer.

Two Finger posted:

Ahahahahahahaha you have to be loving kidding.
"guys we go gold tomorrow and we need a background to cap off the ending we started on last Tuesday Ramirez, get on it."

Internet Kraken posted:

Literally a space elf. It's like they just decided to go with the most common fan creation they found on deviantart.

EDIT: How do you properly maintain hair that long when you're wearing a helmet all the time?
and liberally apply nail polish for nails noone evers sees ever

Amateur Saboteur
Feb 5, 2010

The galaxy's most dangerous cereal killer.

Even though I know there's no way it was pre-planned I got a pretty good nerd callback-gasm when they revealed EDI was the rogue AI from ME1 on luna base.

Amateur Saboteur
Feb 5, 2010

The galaxy's most dangerous cereal killer.

Internet Kraken posted:

As much as I hate that ending even I admit its a bit touching simply becuase of the Mass Effect 1 theme being played.

I'd say its less a teaser for a new DLC or more a setup for inevitable spin-off games in a far distant future where most of what you did aside from the very end has become irrelevant.

EDIT: But really, could they not have found a better voice actor for that kid?

Heh, 'most'.

Amateur Saboteur
Feb 5, 2010

The galaxy's most dangerous cereal killer.

Hey where/when is Conrad I played for 30 hours and didn't run into him or Liara's dad and I'm so upset.

Amateur Saboteur
Feb 5, 2010

The galaxy's most dangerous cereal killer.

TheJoker138 posted:

Yes, the entire game (all THREE games) is just some old guy telling a kid a story.
If you look at it that way it's potentially really loving sick and disturbing. Like why is some old dude telling this small child the exploits of this guy who could have just been like trekking the galaxy being space hitler and having casual sex with random aliens simulatenously.

Was everything you did part of the story? "And then Billy, the Shepard unsheathed his rigid shaft and plunged it deep into the quarian's induction tube"

Amateur Saboteur
Feb 5, 2010

The galaxy's most dangerous cereal killer.

Scionix posted:

The funniest thing was I was pretty dissapointed already at that point because the best thing Bioware could come up with as a plot device to beat the reapers was a ~*superweapon*~

At least the gameplay was good
To be fair they were never going to beat the Reapers without a super weapon of some kind and prove me wrong by listing one conceivable alternative.

Amateur Saboteur
Feb 5, 2010

The galaxy's most dangerous cereal killer.

Gaseous Snake posted:

"Then the Shepard had Traynor come up for a game of chess. But no chess was played my child. Those two hosed like crazy! I tell ya, my child, no one had seen two ladies go at it like that until that day."
Traynor is a goon I'm p. sure.

Amateur Saboteur
Feb 5, 2010

The galaxy's most dangerous cereal killer.

Charlie Mopps posted:

That was probably the hardest part for me. Must have died there about 15 times.
I thought that was cake compared to like 3 different London segments where they spawned Banshees on top of you with no room to run. I guess it's class dependent though 'cause I just hacked Cerberus' turrets on the Atrium and they murdered everyone for me.

Amateur Saboteur
Feb 5, 2010

The galaxy's most dangerous cereal killer.

Lava Lamp Goddess posted:

Speaking of Chambers, is Kelly in this game at all? I saved her in ME2 but didn't see her at all in ME3. Not even an email.
You can manipulate her into committing suicide I hear. ^^ oh maybe I heard wrong.

Speaking of suicide what the gently caress was the deal with Paragon/Renegade this time. It felt so loving utterly unimportant. I can only recall 2 meaningful checks with Udina and Tali/Legion and I had brim filled Paragon at the end but it wouldn't let me choose the last Paragon/Renegade choice during the TIM conversation when he's sticking up Anderson like wtf? I needed more than full bar??

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Amateur Saboteur
Feb 5, 2010

The galaxy's most dangerous cereal killer.

I was pretty ok with dying to that random Reaper blast before you ride the beam.

And then again when I thought he died trying to press the button to fire the Crucible.

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