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I liked the ending a lot. Saw the synthesis thing coming from miles away. My Shepard worked her rear end off for the galaxy and seemed to get absolutely nothing out of it. Like, I felt seriously abandoned by the end of the game. Ashley could barely say a word, Liara was a despondent mess, Garrus and Tali were busy being Sick Nasty, all the cool ME2 characters had killed themselves and the rest just spat out platitudes wishing luck... Trudging down the path and plunging into oblivion to ensure this never happens again felt really satisfying. The ending with the old man and kid was horrible, but mostly because of the VA. The idea that people are upset because it reduces the trilogy into some story being told really loving confuses me because near as I can tell, it's a drat video game and not actually real.
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Liara's final goodbye with the eclipse was one of the best things in the entire series. I still don't really understand what people were expecting from the ending to be so disappointed with it. I liked that in the end none of your choices mattered. It's the loving reapers. Giant killer space robots from hell. You were always hosed. Shepard getting derpy at some ancient Reaper consciousness is pretty much the essence of Mass Effect.
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| # ¿ Mar 12, 2012 23:18 |
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Asiina posted:I didn't cause I didn't choose any renegade options ever. Why would anyone do this. Shepard kills Udina. End of story. Mister Bates posted:I still don't know why in the hell that was considered a 'Renegade' interrupt. Stowing personal pride and cowing to political bullshit is the cornerstone of a paragon choice. Now if Gerrel had tried to blow up a fleet of puppydogs, it would have been paragon to punch him. kater fucked around with this message at Mar 13, 2012 around 02:33 |
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Erz posted:Minor nitpick but I didn't like how conventional the reapers' warfare ended up being. I liked how they arrived on Earth, starting blowing up everything, and THEN asked all the leaders to come forward and negotiate peacefully in order to indoctrinate them. The reapers invasion tactics :: Shepard's derpy rear end speeches.
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Internet Kraken posted:How though? It doesn't make sense. Everyone being part organic/synthetic doesn't mean they won't still try and kill each other. The problems the Reapers are supposedly working against aren't solved by the magic space DNA. There is nothing to indicate that a created species would still not trying to kill its creator. If all life is synthetic then it's kinda hard for synthetic to revolt against imperfect squishy organics. Synthesis is essentially accomplishing the Reaper's goals without the whole galaxy-wide genocide. Which is why it's the obvious choice for Commodore McGoodpants Shepard. It felt satisfying in that it ends the whole thing, where the other choices don't.
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Nelson Mandingo posted:By choosing any of the endings, Shepard lets fear compromise who he is. I would love an ending where Shepard just goes back down the elevator and talks to Hackett. "Thank goodness, Commander. It's a good thing you didn't let your fear of these unstoppable death machines persuade you to compromise."
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| # ¿ Mar 13, 2012 03:59 |
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Merry Magpie posted:Anderson or Udina? Or are you talking about Save Council/Let Council Die? That's like saying it doesn't matter if you choose Spacer/Earthy/Colonist or Survivor/Hero/Dickwad.
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Merry Magpie posted:It didn't in ME2, and it doesn't in ME3. In the game I played folks wouldn't shut up about Akuze. It was back to ME1 levels of dropping it in everywhere. VVVVV Not gonna lie, first thing I did when regaining control is pull out the pistol and try to shoot the evil thing. kater fucked around with this message at Mar 13, 2012 around 04:38 |
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Merry Magpie posted:That's a rather bold statement. I can only offhand recall a couple. Happen to recall when exactly it occurred? I wanna say Hackett/Anderson and Liara are the most common ones, but I really felt it was pervasive. Pretty sure even Javik has a line about it. It even got mentioned in the Cerberus videos, which was truly bizarro world.
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Dolphin Fetus posted:What the hell did Liara do to me at the end? Is that how Asari reproduce/have sex? She embraced eternity.
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| # ¿ Mar 13, 2012 04:53 |
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Just rewatched the ending, and man... poo poo on the content all you want, but they loving nailed the tone. Whoever did the music for this game deserves awards. All of the awards. Also the whining about needing multiplayer/whatever to get THE BEST ENDING is goddamn hilarious in context of what it actually does.
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| # ¿ Mar 13, 2012 05:17 |
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Benjamin Black posted:Generic Marine (I can never remember his name) and Kaidan/Ashley? play a game of poker in there and that's about it. I don't think it happens with Ashley. Instead one of the crew makes some joke about never using the poker table. Merry Magpie posted:Hmm I didn't buy Javik, so I can't comment on it. I do recall Liara making some reference to background, but I'm pretty sure the only other mention of Akuze for sole survivors is Joker. It definitely gets mentioned by Hackett when you ask why you are the one doing all this poo poo, and I really don't think that's the only time he mentions it. I'm sure some of it only pops up for some choices though. I was a mix of Para/Rene but made sure to complain whenever I had the chance. kater fucked around with this message at Mar 13, 2012 around 05:35 |
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raindragon16 posted:I know bitter-sweet endings can be harsh, but all of the choices now are awful and honestly, I can't complete the game; what's the point if my choices never mattered? So Bioware turned the act of playing the game into a paragon/renegade meta-choice? If it all ends in an explosion why bother.
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Dolphin Fetus posted:If we actually do get it, as dlc, well..I don't know. Considering how much better the game is with Javik than without my shock at such an action is approximately nil. I hope it's something akin to Awakening though. Another 15 hours goddammit. Lord knows that ME3 feels rushed enough for them to have already been working on something else the last 6 months.
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Verviticus posted:Lots of people here have said they'd even prefer an ending where Shepard collapses and bleeds out as the fleet is completely stomped and everything dies and it's a complete failure over the current endings because it has a sense of finality - it's over. The current endings don't actually make enough sense to give that feeling. But Shepard dies in either case. I don't really give a drat whether or not EDI and Joker survive to make robo-babies on Pandora, just that Shepard died trying to resolve the hell going on. People are talking about how this ending betrayed the series. Shepard just falling down and bleeding out would have been loving ridiculous in that regard. Shepard doesn't quit.
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RickDaedalus posted:I wasn't aware Vega says that he hears things on the the ship, makes me glad I wasn't the only one. I assumed it was just a joke about the constant humming you hear on the Normandy. Which I think was there since ME1. But he does repeat it very often, which isn't the case for any of the other in-jokes. Paul Revere 3000 posted:I didn't read any spoilers before the game came out, but I was aware of a lot of guys making GBS threads on the leaked script in the old spoiler thread. Speaking of this, I thought the two major things I was spoilereded on (EDI/Joker and Garrus/Tali) were handled pretty guddamn well. EDI was horrible for a long rear end time, but then you go have that conversation on the Citadel with Joker and it's essentially "This is a terrible idea, but the galaxy is about to end so who the gently caress cares." I really respected that, even the two are still very obnoxious. Also maybe I lucked out and avoided it somehow, but I was under the impression that there was literally an EDI/Joker sex scene and was dreading it the entire time I played. The Tali/Garrus thing was still pretty dumb. And so was Vega/Ashley. Both very forgettable though.
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Internet Kraken posted:EDI is an AI and her being so heavily sexualized is terrible. It fucks up a decent character in a completely unnecessary fashion. It really is. Even if you want to keep the TIM joke in, there are plenty of ways to write yourself out of using that ridiculous model for 90% of the game. I don't know what's worse, that they did it to EDI, one of the strongest and least sexualized characters in ME2; or that other than her ME3 is pretty drat good about not abjectly pandering. Kelly is barely in the game, and her replacement is an actual human being! Even Chobot is downright respectable despite the hype to the contrary.
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Rampant Dwickery posted:I'm still not sure if this was intentional or not. I mean, think about it. Wasn't it loving cathartic to jab a knife in his back and finally tell him to gently caress off? I wanted so desperately to have some sort of reply feature when reading his email. GIMME A GUNSHIP TOO AND THEN LETS TALK. Shimrra Jamaane posted:It's hilarious that fans have accidentally given Bioware an out for their stupidity. With fans posting about the immediate desperate idea that maybe the whole thing is a hallucination, Bioware can just use that and pretend that was the idea all along. (Even when it was obviously not) The fact that the ending unlocks loop back around and go from "Turn Everyone Into Reapers Who Live Happily Ever After" to "Die monster" is far too specific not to mean anything. Whether or not they ever intended to flesh that out before everyone flipped their poo poo is a different story.
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jsun posted:I'm glad I read this thread before attempting to get the other endings only to be severely dissapointed. Infinitesimally small. The ending is a complete lie. Joker is walking away from a crash landing on a planet? The squadmate you used the most magically safe?
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Nombres posted:Yeah, you can remake the mass relays, but they'd be ours and built and designed by us. It'd still rely on some degree of reverse engineering, but it's about finding your own path technologically rather than having it decided for you, which fits into the idea of self-determination throughout the game. Knowing about such a technology and specifically setting out to recreate it is hardly finding your own path. Speaking of which, I was annoyed Legion did a total 180 on using Reaper tech to advance the Geth. When he mentions the upgrade on the Normandy and calls it beautiful my reaction was "gently caress no, that poo poo's evil." And of course instead of saying that or anything related to using Reaper tech, Shepard loving told Legion he didn't have a soul.
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VaultAggie posted:There's Cerberus teams besides D-team? Yes, they just all got deployed to some random courtyard in that loving brainkid school.
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gently caress that. I refuse to believe the Quarians don't all have anteater heads.
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Regy Rusty posted:Does the game even record which ending you picked before booting you back to before assaulting the Cerberus base? There's an autosave at the starchild, a mission restart at the Citadel entrance, and a hidden save waaaaaaaaaaaay back before you start the Cerberus mission which is presumably what get's loaded when you continue the game. But the game also automatically dumps you into the continuation and autosaves, so it might be possible your decisions do actually get saved. The NG+ seems to load that final autosave automatically, not the Cerberus one.
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WAR FOOT posted:I can't help but feel that if gamers heap money and thanks upon BioWare for a new ending, it'll mean that future games have equally obnoxious endings to milk the playerbase for those extra dollars. The future is now! EA has been riding the train into this evil poo poo for a long time coming. Literally every Bioware game since acquisition has been "Well, let's see what we can get away with this time!" It's not even funny anymore. Just the base game of ME3 alone was a rushed and buggy mess; add on top some horrible, horrible DLC practices and jesus poo poo gently caress EA.
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Charlie Mopps posted:I had 2 bugs in my entire playthrough: one of Aria's missions bugged out and i got stuck in Joker's cockpit once. There are some truly bizarre face/eye/camera bugs in conversations, Shepard's hair becomes see-through in Javik's room, the "pull out your gun" animation from the first 2 games that was removed from this one somehow triggers anytime you fall in exploration mode, the geometry in multiplayer maps has weird invisible protrusions, the Journal is pretty much non-functional, sorting previously viewed missions/messages/whatever is non-functional, the "Go Here" button routinely breaks, some lines of dialogue are muted mid-sentance and resumed... And these are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head. Oh and I got the standard "stuck on random poo poo" a few times, of course. Once I had a C-Sec guard simply walk on top of me and I couldn't move out of him. Edit: Invisible Turrets in multiplayer! How could I have forgotten that wonderful experience. kater fucked around with this message at Mar 14, 2012 around 14:32 |
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Seeing Anderson get so bent out of shape over Kai Leng when the only thing I remembered about him from the hilarious fallout over the last book is that he broke into Anderson's apartment and ate his Cheerios was loving amazing.
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ChronoReverse posted:Phantoms were tougher than Kai Leng was for me. The only reason why KL was anything more than a footnote is because he just kept going SHIELD RECHARGING and never actually doing anything to me. The Kai Leng fight was kinda hard on Insanity once he starts dropping down Nemesis and going crazy with his finger lasers. Syrinxx posted:gently caress that kid, gently caress that ending and gently caress the writers. I went in with my green bar maxed, 100% galactic readiness and didn't see any green controls so I went blue and my loving Shepard died and basically gently caress Mac Walters forever The Reapers know you are tuned to respond to color and prioritized their safety!
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AlternateAccount posted:Except he could be dead. So the Illusive Man finds his body floating in the debris//trapped in the vents.
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One and the Same posted:Glad I got the collector's edition, I'd be furious rather then just disappointed if I didn't. That video is mostly a lie. He's available as a body to use for missions but that's it. The download for him is rather sizable. Marx posted:I just can't get enough of Kai Leng who is so super-asian that even his cybernetic eyes are angled slits. Nah, you are reading too much into this. Vega, Ashley, and probably Kaiden all have armor with crazy slanty eyeslits, and I bet there's a helmet like it available to Shepard. AlternateAccount posted:OK, I could get behind this. He's so bland and forgettable that he's the perfect assassin, no one can remember what he looked like or who he was. Man, Jacob is the one returning character that actively annoyed me in ME3. ME2 needed someone not-crazy to play straight against all the lunatics in that game. In ME3 he's just totally forgettable. Doesn't even buy me a drink on the citadel, just stands at the hospital doing god knows what until he gets turned into goo. Jack is a better character in ME3. That's shouldn't be possible.
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Philonius posted:They have lines after most missions if I remember correctly, but you have to talk to them to get them. I'm pretty sure their dialogue is all ambient, it triggers when you walk near not actually talk to them.
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NutritiousSnack posted:This is why he's my favorite character. He's just loving inept and powerless compared to Shepard despite trying so hard to be a badass. He is literally a basement dwelling weeaboo trying to fight a hardened badass. Kai Leng should have been Conrad.
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Dolash posted:Need to agree that I swept through engineering after every mission and the only extra dialogue I ever got was the engineers asking for a thermal pipe (which did nothing). I assumed it'd be like if I didn't buy it they'd get killed in an engine explosion but I guess not. That's really weird. Ken/Gabby had more dialogue than say Ashley or Tali for me.
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Preechr posted:Heh, that's cute. I bet you thought having Anderson appointed to the council was a choice that mattered, too. I don't know. The Quarians pretty much tell you to gently caress off in ME2. I mean, you get the choice of yelling at them one way or the other, but why the hell would they listen to you? Asiina posted:I really liked the stories you could only really get a handle on by visiting the citadel a million times. I spent a good chunk of time loading different sections of the Citadel just to hear em all. Finding out later that the Asari I authorized to carry a weapon killed herself was the most  thing in the game. I THOUGHT SHE NEEDED IT TO FEEL SAFE.
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thefncrow posted:I don't think that was supposed to be a senile old human lady speaking to an Asari that resembles her dead son's wife. I think that was supposed to be a senile old human lady who sometimes doesn't recognize her son's wife. Yea, the old lady gets upset when the Asari speaks familiarly with her. Mr. Pumroy posted:Medical recommendation? I'm a goddamn Spectre. GUNS FOR EVERYONE. Exactly. Dr. Shepard can cure everything. I was just shocked that they put a "Don't Do This You Moron" option into the otherwise useless Spectre thing. Also what was with the random Terry Schiavo Memorial Hospital thing? That was really, really random and I don't think they even made a token War Efforts link to it. Plus dedicating a memorial to someone before they are dead and buried is so laughably dickish.
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Crigit posted:Why in the everloving gently caress would you permit a person hospitalized for PTSD to have access to a weapon? Hell, why would you let weapon into the hospital in any hands other than police/guards? Yea, she's safe on the citadel. It's not like there's a chance she will be attacked by Reapers and be without her weapon again.
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The Wall posted:I was all "no idea why people hate this ending, I think it's actually really great!" right up until the elevator started going up. That's where it got kinda bad. I thought the ending was rather fantastic. It's just ridiculously abrupt, railroads your character unbelievably, is full of obvious incongruities, and doesn't even attempt to explain anything. Which I think are perfectly fine things for other people to care about. For me, the music was just that good. Plus I randomly got a close-up of Liara. Apparently the game bugged, but it worked in the moment because she's pretty much the only character in the game I didn't end up hating by the end.
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CrushedB posted:Chris L'Etoile, formerly of BioWare (wrote Codex entries, designed the geth, designed Legion, Thane, and EDI in ME2), now at Zenimax. Apparently he posted that before ME3 came out. So I guess it's a good thing Thessia and Earth's populations were recently lowered slightly?
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Jblade posted:In ME2 they were sorta set up towards the end as EDI being like a mother-figure or big sister, but in ME3 she gets a hot cyber-body and suddenly Joker wants to gently caress her, seriously? There are several conversations in ME2 about EDI and Joker's deviant relationship. He's probably already hosed her and EDI decided creating some robot doll would be less shameful.
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Transmetropolitan posted:No, is just that Shepard is a vortex of raw and tremendous sexuality that when the Commander walks in the room everyone of the opposite sex just go I was kinda annoyed Tali was willing to jump on the Garrus train but impervious to the FemShep stare. Lady you ain't exactly doing anything more productive with that giant cockroach. Charlie Mopps posted:I was a bit confused when she suddenly wanted to take a shower in Shepards cabin. I probably started the romance a bit without really realizing it though. You should have let her, she just wanted to freshen up for whatever big date she was going on after you two play some chess.
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Philonius posted:Seems the rumors of a revised ending DLC may be credible after all... Bioware's been dropping vague hints on the official ME twitter account, saying the fans wouldn't be pissed if we knew what was coming, we better hold on to our saves, etc. Whoever is manning that twitter account must loving love their job. I can't believe it's still responding to stuff now. Is that going to continue for weeks and weeks?
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