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Westen
Nov 6, 2011


Rirse posted:

Nope.

And once again, I stated before, while I think the ending sounds stupid (not beat the game myself), I think anyone who says the entire series is ruined and can no longer play the games because of the ending is even dumber. It's not like the ending was St Elsewhere or Newhart where it just renders the entire series as a fever dream of that kid or something. Besides, the amount of backlash it has, there going to be changes later on.

I mean the Prince of Persia game from 2008 got a new ending, and that probably had less public backlash to it.

Just chiming in to say as one of the people who said they were turned off from the whole series due to the ending, I have since sucked it up and started a second play though of 3. And you know what? I was wrong.
Up until the end this is exactly the send off this series deserved and I love the whole thing enough to ignore a lovely ending.

Side note: holy crap why was I not taking Javik everywhere? Because seriously he and Vega are totally awesome.

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Westen
Nov 6, 2011


Jarmel posted:

Supposedly there actually was a scene in script leak where you guys all play poker.

In all the DLC that's bound to come out, there had better be a poker mini-game included somewhere.

Westen
Nov 6, 2011


Tonfa posted:

Glad to see BioWare going down in flames.

If you buy the inevitable ending DLC instead of youtubing it the day after you are the problem.

my guess is that the supposed ending DLC will be free* like Zaeed and the Hammerhead were. No charge if you have the online pass that comes with the game.

Westen
Nov 6, 2011


Charlie Mopps posted:

Just saw this posted on another forum:


Not sure if its true but if it is.

On a related note, during the one of the Rannoch missions, a dying quarian asks you to pass on a message to his son. I forget the name now but I remember it sounding familiar. Then it clicked that there was a researcher during Tali's loyalty mission that also left a dying message for uh...the same kid.

Wonder what happens to orphans on the migrant fleet?

Westen
Nov 6, 2011


Elotana posted:

Why is everyone assuming that destruction of the mass relays strands everyone everywhere, or that the Normandy crew is stuck on jungle world forever? Ships in ME have FTL drives that can motor between stars pretty quick, they just require fuel in the absence of a relay. And are we assuming the Normandy just doesn't have a distress beacon for whatever reason? Like half the sidequests in the game revolve around distress beacons! Maybe they're just happy to have crashed on an oxygen world!

this is mostly due to the fact that going from one end of the galaxy to the other at standard ME FTL speeds takes upwards of a few decades.

Westen
Nov 6, 2011


wasianchickn posted:

I think the worst part of the ending being a letdown is now I'm actually curious about future DLC.

That Aria and Omega thing's bound to come back as DLC.

As for the ending, if they actually have something in the works that forges a fitting end out of that clusterfuck...I'd really want to see it. Unbelievably scummy as that concept is, if it lives up to the rest of the game well...poo poo.

Westen
Nov 6, 2011


Mister Bates posted:

Yeah, the fact that the Aria thing is going to be coming back later as DLC is basically just short of outright stated in the game itself, in a manner that's almost as obvious as the Warden's Keep thing in DA1, albeit without the character actually outright saying 'You can help me on this quest right after you purchase some PREMIUM CONTENT!' like they did there.

And this game series has already wrung a stupidly massive amount of money from me for new copies of all three games plus all the DLC for all of them to date, so what's another in the grand scheme of things, I guess? Still pisses me right the gently caress off that they didn't just include a proper ending in the game itself.

Exactly, I was planning on buying all the DLC for this before I even bought the game. If some flaky rumors are to be believed there's the Aria mess and some sort of mission with your love interest which could be nice for everybody who romanced people from ME2 aside from Tali and Garrus.

The ultimate dick move would be if each DLC they let out adds to the ending and you need to buy it all to get the full deal.

Westen
Nov 6, 2011


I hold running and then limping to the conduit up there with walking out of the barn at the end of Red Dead Redemption. Holy crap that was one of the best parts of the game.

Westen
Nov 6, 2011


Aristobulus posted:

I definitely agree she has a ton of depth and character development, and all of that is reasons I like her so much...but I want to ask this: do you also think Paragon Shep would be a canon Shep, if there was one?

Because I do think that Liara's romance fits much more for Paragon than Renegade. And if Renegade Shep was canon, I'd have to then ask about the Vermire Survivor. Do you not think they also go through a lot of development, and could be the canon romance with a renegade Shep?

You know, I hated Liara in 1, didn't much care about her in 2 but was more than willing to help her out to repay the favor for Sovereign and Sarren. In LotSB she was better. Here she ended up being one of my favorite characters. Especially with the time capsule scene.

You may not have been with me every step of the way like Garrus and Tali, but you always had my back T'Soni. Thanks.

Westen
Nov 6, 2011


As a Soldier, Kai Leng was a bit of a prick to fight, and when I heard about him before the game came out I was sort of excited that Shepard was getting a rival that was supposed to be able to go toe-to-toe with him/her.

Then Leng ended up sort of sucking. Really enjoyed getting revenge for Thane though.

Also chiming in on London being what made me think twice about an insanity run. I could not hit that launch button fast enough god drat.

Westen
Nov 6, 2011


Nombres posted:

That last fight before the launch was by far the hardest of the game, and probably would have been far harder than a normal boss fight, oddly enough. The banshees are what did it for me, I swear to god whoever designed that enemy was looking to troll the players something awful.

I swear they went to the Dead Space team over at Visceral for the Brute and Banshee animations. They remind me so much of some of the Necromorph variants from Dead Space 1 and 2

Westen
Nov 6, 2011


Axialbloom posted:

This is exactly it for me. This is what depresses me more than anything. I'm probably something of a Bioware apologist and I didn't need much in the way of a decent ending but gently caress me how could they have made a game, a series of games, so great and then gently caress it up so royally at the finish line. Literally the last loving minutes of the game. BAH!

Now I don't now whether to do a second run-through or take a wait-and-see approach. Which is rubbish - because the game is totally worth replaying (if not for the end).

Start the second run through. Trust me it is worth it, everything aside from the ending really is that good. Also you can get even better versions of the guns. Mother of god the Valkyrie X is badass

Westen
Nov 6, 2011


Nordick posted:

Thoughts about where to take the IP from here:

Prequels or "In the meantime" poo poo sounds like a really loving dull idea. We already know what happened in the Rachni Wars or Krogan Rebellions or First Contact War, I don't care that much about the specifics. Maybe some pretty small-scale, personal level stuff would work, like some dude (and his badass Turian friend Carthus Varakian) going on a shooting spree to save some colonists from Batarian slavers or someshit. I dunno.

As for the future of the galaxy, well, I'll reiterate my idea from about 541 pages back:

The relay network is no more, there's a galactic dark age where billions die, tech level goes way back, yadda yadda.
Then, after a few thousand years, certain factions that have sprung up from the remnants of civilization have come up with a reasonably efficient way (or even a few different ways) to explore the galaxy further than with the plain old FTL drives. And while exploring, they will run into other factions, new civilizations, remnants of Reaper tech, Prothean poo poo, all that jazz.

What I'm getting at is a 4X strategy game like Master of Orion and Sword of the Stars and the likes. You know, establish new colonies, research new tech, establish diplomacy with the other factions (or blow them all the gently caress up) and, in effect, REBUILD THE drat GALACTIC CIVILIZATION, in one way or another.

Not that I have any delusions of that actually ever happening, of course. I mean, EA funding a turnbased strategy game? Aahahahahah.
But like I said the last time, a man can always dream.

I was really hoping for a game that took place during the reconstruction after the Reaper war. Like some sort of Firefly/Cowboy Bebop styled band of mercs who could offer a new perspective on the galaxy, maybe even have a plot focusing on people who are screwing over the reconstruction effort to line their pockets.

But uh...well that's just not happening anymore.

Westen
Nov 6, 2011


Malrauxs Place posted:

Wanna see the look on the star child's face when you tell Hackett to motherfucking ram the relay.

"It's been an honor Commander. Hackett out."

Westen
Nov 6, 2011


MindlessSpartan posted:

If Destroy affects the Geth than Control should too. gently caress the "You know that thing you've wanted to do for years? One line of dialogue changes that to the bad thing! The good thing is what the indoctrinated bad guys wanted to do!" line of argument.

Actually, how the gently caress does destroy work again? Is it like some super EMP pulse? Wouldn't a galactic-wide one have some adverse effects on organics and just about everything else? If not how does it just target synthetic life? And where does the line get drawn on that? "Oh the toaster can process this much data, it's gone but thank god your ipod still works."

Christ the more I think about these endings the less sense they make.

Westen
Nov 6, 2011


Kennedy posted:

Now that I think of it, there was a notice about multiplayer servers being taken offline for maintenance today (can't remember what time), so it may be related to that.

facebook page mentions something about a multiplayer promotion for fighting reaper forces on silver or above.

Westen
Nov 6, 2011


Vengarr posted:

It doesn't really matter whether she's gung-ho or reluctant--she's still assisting genocide. She doesn't know what to think, she doesn't know what she wants, she doesn't know how to get it. The problem is that she's not really a leader, and she knows it. If she was, she could have pushed back...somehow.


I took that Renegade interrupt after Gerrells stunt hoping Shepard would shoot the fucker in the face. One of the only Renegade interrupts I took the whole game, because really, that poo poo was unconscionable. And the Paragon choice is "I understand". Seriously? No, I don't.

Besides, he was pretty obviously motivated by the thought that he could kill Tali and remove one of the constraints holding him back from total war. Shithead.

gently caress that Admiral. In my dream epilogue where the relays don't get blown to hell, after seeing what Shep and the LI have been up to and catching up with old squad members, we cut to Gerrel, looking at his homeworld for the first time without a suit. Shepard walks up and proceeds to beat him like a pyjak.

And that's the credits. Just Shepard beating the crap out of the guy while text scrolls across the screen to faunts. Maybe Tali getting some kicks in on him too.

Honestly, he tried to kill Commander Shepard. That never worked out well for anybody.

Westen
Nov 6, 2011


RONALD REAGAN posted:

There's a section of the leaked script where Noles (the C-Sec officer from the batarian codes sidequest) tells you about some Keepers that have been shutdown somehow. Basically Xen abandoned the quarians at Rannoch, and is doing experiments on the Citadel/Keepers. Her reasoning is that since the reapers were controlling the geth, and the citadel was built by the reapers, the technology on the citadel could be used to control the geth. Or something. Eventually you confront her in the keeper tunnels, and either kill her, arrest her, or get her working on the Crucible. This whole section was cut, I guess.

poo poo, that would've been really interesting to see play out.

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Westen
Nov 6, 2011


I personally loved the Revenant with upgraded accuracy and Warp ammo as it tears through anything but shields and you've got Disruptor ammo for that anyway.

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