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Spudd
Nov 27, 2007

No plague, I swear!


making GBS threads on tombs is a pretty big thing here in Sydney so I'm sure you'll fit right at home here.

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Trojan Kaiju
Feb 13, 2012


I'm pretty sure I got freaked out when I first got to this stage. My memory apparently overblew the whole first map, because I thought I remembered it being darker and creepier.

bhlaab
Feb 21, 2005



Fun fact! The planets Tawfret, Eschebone, and Rith Essa get their names from fun anagrams.

toddy.
Jun 15, 2010

thank you for saving me yoshi
my friend
let's fly into space


bhlaab posted:

Fun fact! The planets Tawfret, Eschebone, and Rith Essa get their names from fun anagrams.

Tawfret is an anagram for Wet Fart.

toddy. fucked around with this message at Jun 12, 2012 around 00:46

December Octopodes
Dec 25, 2008



Rith essa is Their rear end.

Pidmon
Mar 18, 2009

NO ONE risks painful injury on your GREEN SLIME GHOST POGO RIDE.

No one but YOU.


December Octopodes posted:

Rith essa is Their rear end.

Rare's british. Arse poo poo

Mush Man
Jun 25, 2010

Nintendo announces
Project Funké.


Eschebone becomes nob cheese.

Tubofun
Jul 8, 2009


Oh god please keep the face. With any luck it will scare off all the drones.

Patter Song
Mar 26, 2010

Hereby it is manifest that during the time men live without a common power to keep them all in awe, they are in that condition which is called war; and such a war as is of every man against every man.

Plasma Shotgun will wreck Zombie Drones, but not the big guys. The red non-zombie drones are Rhino Drones, who are basically like ordinary drones but are confusingly-colored to trick you into thinking that they're zombies. Rhino Drones' gimmick is that they try to strafe you and shoot you in the back rather than stupidly standing in front of you.

toddy.
Jun 15, 2010

thank you for saving me yoshi
my friend
let's fly into space


Mush Man posted:

Eschebone becomes nob cheese.

I vaguely remember this being a legit insult said back in middle school days, if so man how times have changed. Though I could be wrong and UKTV programming may slowly be overwriting my childhood.

Katsuma
Sep 12, 2007
For All Brave Silpheed Pilots

Those two loving tribals stymied my progress in this game for over a goddamn year. gently caress those tribals.

Concordat
Mar 4, 2007

Secondary Objective: Commit Fraud - Complete


KamiTsurugi posted:

I'm pretty sure I got freaked out when I first got to this stage. My memory apparently overblew the whole first map, because I thought I remembered it being darker and creepier.

Yeah I'm remembering it being a lot darker too. Like that white fog was instead a black one. Maybe its an emulator issue.

Mush Man
Jun 25, 2010

Nintendo announces
Project Funké.


I checked that out, and on the actual N64, it does seem darker. The fog is definately supposed to be white though. I imagine it's just the signal sent though the composite cables and the TV settings. But yeah, when you first make it to Tawfret, there's this moment when you try killing the enemies, realise you can't, then get a little uneasy as you back away while they start throwing their flesh at you. That first part of the level has this really great atmosphere, and you'll spend some time in the gloom trying to find your way.

I also never found those tribals when I was a kid.

Also, good news! Jewel just found this Netplay plugin for Project 64 that works really well, so I'll get a few people together for multiplayer sometime.

Mush Man fucked around with this message at Jun 13, 2012 around 08:10

SpRahl
Apr 22, 2008


Its nothing big but I hope you show off what happens when you throw shurikens at the zombie ants.

Duckbehindcover
Oct 21, 2010

Hold A to vault


Maybe the emulator issue is that your N64 is probably plugged into a CRT TV and you're playing on an LCD monitor.

Frocobo
Jan 1, 2011

Current status: not a tree.


Katsuma posted:

Those two loving tribals stymied my progress in this game for over a goddamn year. gently caress those tribals.

This is something I have a hard time understanding. You get the flares in the exact same room that you need to use them. Why WOULDN'T you try them out in said room and immediately see the hidden jump spot?

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011

I'd rather kiss a Waffleman_!


Duckbehindcover posted:

Maybe the emulator issue is that your N64 is probably plugged into a CRT TV and you're playing on an LCD monitor.

I'm trying to decipher this sentence, but I'm not getting anything. What do CRT TVs have to do with emulation?

Zero grinder
Sep 25, 2010


Duckbehindcover posted:

Maybe the emulator issue is that your N64 is probably plugged into a CRT TV and you're playing on an LCD monitor.

I... what? What the hell are you talking about? I don't think you understand what a emulator is.

Duckbehindcover
Oct 21, 2010

Hold A to vault


It's not an emulator issue, is what I'm saying. CRT monitors are just darker.

Positronic Spleen
May 4, 2010


Patter Song posted:

Plasma Shotgun will wreck Zombie Drones, but not the big guys.
It works on the big guys, too, it just doesn't instagib them. It would make sense to try the shotgun on zombies, but at the same time, I can understand why someone would assume it wouldn't work. Luckily, I had Nintendo Power to tell me these kind of things.

Concordat
Mar 4, 2007

Secondary Objective: Commit Fraud - Complete


Mush Man posted:

Also, good news! Jewel just found this Netplay plugin for Project 64 that works really well, so I'll get a few people together for multiplayer sometime.

When you say multiplayer do you mean deathmatch or Floyd?

Mush Man
Jun 25, 2010

Nintendo announces
Project Funké.


SpRahl posted:

Its nothing big but I hope you show off what happens when you throw shurikens at the zombie ants.

I actually forgot to do this, so next update.

Frocobo posted:

This is something I have a hard time understanding. You get the flares in the exact same room that you need to use them. Why WOULDN'T you try them out in said room and immediately see the hidden jump spot?

That room isn't exactly dark, so it's not immediately compelling to use a flare. A rather common trick to know with game design is that players tend to follow light. The player is very likely to overlook the dark area since they're looking at the actual detail in the room. It's also easy to dismiss the dark part as a dark wall texture. Another common game design fact is that players rarely ever look up, so players who do use the flares right away might still miss the platform because it isn't at eye-level. The player is more likely to use them when they've entered the trap door, but the extra brightness there isn't really that helpful, so they'll probably forget about them completely after that.

Concordat posted:

When you say multiplayer do you mean deathmatch or Floyd?

I was thinking deathmatch, but I should be able to show Floyd off as well now that you've reminded me.

Mush Man fucked around with this message at Jun 14, 2012 around 05:23

Patter Song
Mar 26, 2010

Hereby it is manifest that during the time men live without a common power to keep them all in awe, they are in that condition which is called war; and such a war as is of every man against every man.

Re: Floyd.

There's only one really useful thing about Floyd: if you zoom in with the Sniper Rifle, he zooms in as well. Floyd has unlimited ammo. Aiming with the Sniper Rifle and firing with Floyd gives you effectively unlimited Sniper Rifle ammo.

Concordat
Mar 4, 2007

Secondary Objective: Commit Fraud - Complete


How useful Floyd is depends entirely on the speed of your trigger finger.

InfiniteJesters
Jan 26, 2012


Patter Song posted:

Re: Floyd.

There's only one really useful thing about Floyd: if you zoom in with the Sniper Rifle, he zooms in as well. Floyd has unlimited ammo. Aiming with the Sniper Rifle and firing with Floyd gives you effectively unlimited Sniper Rifle ammo.

So the sniper is the spotter and the not-spotter is the actual shooter?

Jet Force Gemini sniper school is a new and exciting place, apparently.

toddy.
Jun 15, 2010

thank you for saving me yoshi
my friend
let's fly into space


Mush Man is currently streaming the Legend of Zelda. WE HAVE STOLEN THE LP UPDATES - SPACE CRAB MAFIA

http://www.twitch.tv/MushmanSA

toddy. fucked around with this message at Jul 17, 2012 around 14:55

Eyre Kneed
Jul 1, 2008



Well, this was a fun thread.

Seedy Wizard
Feb 17, 2011

"Hold on, hold on, I wanna get some backflips outta my system!"


Eyre Kneed posted:

Well, this was a fun thread.
The jig is up Mush Man. Your LP license is revoked.

Seedy Wizard fucked around with this message at Jul 31, 2012 around 08:46

Mush Man
Jun 25, 2010

Nintendo announces
Project Funké.




with toddy.
featuring MeccaPrime and thevoiceofdog





[✔] Infiltrate and complete the Airbourne Squadron training area between Outset and Interior regions - Unlocked Goldwood Target Range


[✔] Return and complete the Airbourne Drone training area with needed equipment - Earned Ear Plugs


[✔] Complete the Castle region




22. Floyd Mission
23. Medal

31. Boss Intro
32. Boss Fight
33. Boss Death

ThornBrain
Jan 25, 2011


Nice thread save.

I only ever played one of Floyd's missions and it's on a later world. I'm pretty sure I did terribly.

And I'd like to see that NetPlay tutorial (and maybe a short run through of your computer setup), seeing as a couple guys and I are close to getting something with it that works.

Ben Kasack
Dec 27, 2010


This has to be the best video yet. A Starship Trooper reference AND 2007 De-evolution jab? Please and thank you. Though, I have to admit, I was a little confused about the camera thing until I though upon "2007 Cam" and then it just clicked.

Keep up the good work and Snoop is 4:20 everyday.

toddy.
Jun 15, 2010

thank you for saving me yoshi
my friend
let's fly into space



I didn't mention it in the video but this track and the stage cleared themes are probably my favourite tracks in the game. Something about that boss track, though, has a magnificent cinematic vibe to it and it's just great listening.

Ben Kasack posted:

This has to be the best video yet. A Starship Trooper reference AND 2007 De-evolution jab? Please and thank you. Though, I have to admit, I was a little confused about the camera thing until I though upon "2007 Cam" and then it just clicked.

Just to note that Mush has been adding all that extra snippets way after we've recorded commentary and then keeps it a secret until the video is posted. So this video was completely recorded months before he finished editing.

Seedy Wizard
Feb 17, 2011

"Hold on, hold on, I wanna get some backflips outta my system!"


I found a 30 minute video today previewing what eventually became Conker's Bad Fur Day for N64. For those who don't know, BFD was previously Conker's Twelve Tales. A much more child friendly and less awesome game. Apart form the video being really interesting because you can see how far they got into making the game before refreshing it all. If you're familiar with BFD, you can pick out all the parts they kept and used for BFD and bits they didn't use. SUCH AS THIS!

So this suggests to me that it was previously a Conker song, not JFG. JFG came out in 1999 and BFD in 2001. I'm betting they were making both of these around the same time and then just gave the song to JFG when they decided to start over. Mush told me that it could also be a placeholder, but whatever it is I found it pretty interesting.

Concordat
Mar 4, 2007

Secondary Objective: Commit Fraud - Complete


That was a pretty shameful performance toddy. You didn't kill one tribal!

On a related note, gently caress those Floyd missions. I don't think I ever managed to get the top rank in those stupid loving things.

SpRahl
Apr 22, 2008


Concordat posted:

On a related note, gently caress those Floyd missions. I don't think I ever managed to get the top rank in those stupid loving things.

Goldwood was the only one I could ever beat as a kid, so I was glad to eventually find out the reward is poo poo for it. I do remember spending hours on the Anubis Floyd mission since you have to beat that one in order to complete the game.

Mush Man
Jun 25, 2010

Nintendo announces
Project Funké.





What you'll need
Project 64 1.7
AQZ Netplay Plugin
Friends

Up until recently, most implementations of netplay on N64 emulators has used Kaillera, which is passable at best but pretty garbage otherwise. Now there's a better alternative: the AQZ Netplay plugin. It's set as a controller plugin by the emulator and works by sending each player's inputs to one another.

To run it, you need Project 64 1.7; with any other version (even Project 64 1.6) or emulator, the plugin desyncs. Here's a copy of the latest version of PJ64 1.7 if you don't already have it. You'll also need the plugin itself. To install it, all you need to do is put netplay_input_plugin.dll in the <Project 64 location>/Plugins/Input folder. To set it up, open Project 64 and before starting a ROM, go to Options > Settings > Plugins > Input (controller) plugin > AQZ NetPlay > OK. After, go to Options > Configure Controller Plugin... > Select an Input Plugin and pick an option. Jabo's DirectInput7 is the default and works fine, but the N-Rage Input Plugin is the best. If no-one else is using your PC to play, click OK and you're ready to start!

If you want to have more than one player on a single PC, now's the time you need to set this up. You need to configure your actual controller plugin to do this, so go to Options > Configure Controller Plugin... > Configure. Set up the controls for each player and make sure the setting for plugging their controller in is checked. If you're the only player on the PC, you want to make sure only the first controller is set as plugged in.

Before you begin, make sure you and your friends are all running the same version and settings of Project 64 and its plugins and all have the same save files (and aren't using cheats). Differences between any of these can cause desync. It's best to configure these settings on one person's copy and give that to all players. It eliminates the problem of other players configuring settings on their own and later seeing the other players walking into walls. To make things easy, I've uploaded a Netplay ready version so you don't have to fuss over setting it all up if you just want to get into the action.

Now that you're ready to go, open a ROM. The netplay window will appear. You'll see a list of commands if you want to fiddle with them. You'll also see the number of local players. If there's only one player on your PC, this value should be 1, and if you have extra players on your PC, it should be that number of players. If you're the host, choose a port number that users will connect to the server with that other applications don't use. I use 6464 because it's easy to remember. You may need to forward the port so users can connect. Find your router's model and use the default guide on their website.

The host should now start the server. Type in /server <port>. <port> should be the port of your choice. The other players need to connect to the server with /connect <host address> <port>, where <host address> is the host's IP address and <port> is the port the host chose when starting the server. There's plenty of ways for the host to find their IP address; even Google will show it to you if you search for something like "what is my ip". This site works well enough (though sometimes the port tester gives false negatives). If you're playing a game with hotseat multiplayer, that is, players take turns to play, then once the server has started, all players must type in /golf to activate Golf Mode. This mode lets the player who has control have zero lag when playing. When it is your turn, simply press the button mapped to the N64 plugin's L button.

Server host example: /server 6464
Connect example: /connect 69.4.20.219 6464

When everyone's connected, the host should enter /start to begin the game. If the game doesn't run, someone might have the setting Pause emulation when window is not active? checked in Options > Settings > Options. They should either switch to the emulator window or uncheck that setting. Now that you're running the game, you can get a feel for how the lag is. The plugin works by delaying all players' inputs, even the host's, by the number of frames specified by the /lag command. The default value is 5. You can change the lag value at any time, so if you feel there's too much input lag, tweak it down, or if the emulator is performing choppily, adjust it up. Just type /lag <number> to set it. /lag 3 is what I use.

That's all there is! Have fun!

Mush Man
Jun 25, 2010

Nintendo announces
Project Funké.


toddy. posted:

Just to note that Mush has been adding all that extra snippets way after we've recorded commentary and then keeps it a secret until the video is posted. So this video was completely recorded months before he finished editing.

This is mostly right but not quite the full story. Most of the time was spent trying to get netplay working. I pretty much forgot Jet Force Gemini's co-op mode until Concordat reminded me, so instead of going straight to recording the next update, I had to figure out how to get it working correctly so I could show off co-op in the update. This took up most of the time between updates. (That and also me trying to figure out how to get rumble working on my controller, but that didn't take very long.)

Recording and editing the first half only took a couple of days. Co-ordinating with Toddy to do co-op took another few days. Then there was that Starship Troopers cutaway. I wanted to get some other people to do the voices there since everyone had already heard our voices throughout the LP. Co-ordinating with thevoiceofdog and MeccaPrime took a little longer before we finished that. Editing the whole episode together only took a few days.

Seedy Wizard posted:

I found a 30 minute video today previewing what eventually became Conker's Bad Fur Day for N64. If you're familiar with BFD, you can pick out all the parts they kept and used for BFD and bits they didn't use. SUCH AS THIS!

So this suggests to me that it was previously a Conker song, not JFG. JFG came out in 1999 and BFD in 2001. I'm betting they were making both of these around the same time and then just gave the song to JFG when they decided to start over.

I did some research and Conker's Twelve Tales was supposed to come out October 1998 before they changed direction in August 1998. So yeah, JFG's main theme was made for Conker originally. Nice find.

Concordat posted:

On a related note, gently caress those Floyd missions. I don't think I ever managed to get the top rank in those stupid loving things.

Lucky for you, you only had to get Gold Medals to get the unlockables. Getting all Expert Medals unlocks something special, but it's not much to miss out on.

ThornBrain posted:

I only ever played one of Floyd's missions and it's on a later world. I'm pretty sure I did terribly.

Was that the one at Mizar's Palace? You're instantly given an Expert Medal there if you pass since the mission is only available once.

Edit VV: It was most likely that one then. The one on Eschebone, the lava planet is much later but isn't on the planet's surface.

Mush Man fucked around with this message at Sep 25, 2012 around 06:35

ThornBrain
Jan 25, 2011


Mush Man posted:

Was that the one at Mizar's Palace? You're instantly given an Expert Medal there if you pass since the mission is only available once.

That sounds about right. I just remember a lot of orange.

Seedy Wizard
Feb 17, 2011

"Hold on, hold on, I wanna get some backflips outta my system!"


Mush Man posted:

I did some research and Conker's Twelve Tales was supposed to come out October 1998 before they changed direction in August 1998. So yeah, JFG's main theme was made for Conker originally. Nice find.

Call me Seedy the vidjya gaimz gernelizt!

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treiz01
Jan 2, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post


Well I just so happened to be browsing the pages of Let's Play looking for old threads... And I am happy to see that this one is up again. Thanks Mush Man!

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