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Sigma-X posted:This video is loving amazing Yeah, like, goddamn. If the game is as entertaining as the video I want these guys to succeed. Shame is that they are nowhere near close to their goal. I threw some money in, but I'm not seeing it happen unless it gets some serious exposure. Metacell 2, you guys, go goonrush it or something. It's just $5 for the game and its prequel.
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I'm crafting a thread about it, it should be up soon. The word should really be out about this game. ed: Here. Zanmatto, if you can get that dude an SA account, it might help, he desperately needs it. NieR Occomata fucked around with this message at 23:31 on Mar 28, 2012 |
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Mar 28, 2012 23:28
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Chipped in $25, this game looks awesome.
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Mar 28, 2012 23:36
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LumberingTroll posted:I also don't see the need to "appeal to emotions" and create some kind of sob story. No, but you need to "elevator pitch" it up, which might be what Occupation is getting at. The description is way too straightforward and boring. For example, the sentence "Increased size comes with costs" reads like a memo rather than an appeal that's supposed to get the reader excited about the project. edit: ^^^ Now the Metacell page is a good pitch: Here's a video showing off how fun and creative we are, here's some pretty gameplay footage and a demo, here's a quote endorsing our game, and here's a humanizing explanation of who we are and why we're asking for your money (this is how you appeal to emotions without begging) emoticon fucked around with this message at 23:46 on Mar 28, 2012 |
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Mar 28, 2012 23:40
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emoticon posted:No, but you need to "elevator pitch" it up, which might be what Occupation is getting at. The description is way too straightforward and boring. For example, the sentence "Increased size comes with costs" reads like a memo rather than an appeal that's supposed to get the reader excited about the project. Understood, we will look at making it read more exciting.
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Mar 28, 2012 23:46
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The word emotion does not automatically mean "sadness". Kickstarter is not a logic-based system, it's all about dreams and excitement and positive vibes and partying and such. Make people laugh or get excited or engage emotionally and then they donate. No one backs anything because it makes sense.
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mutata posted:The word emotion does not automatically mean "sadness". Kickstarter is not a logic-based system, it's all about dreams and excitement and positive vibes and partying and such. Make people laugh or get excited or engage emotionally and then they donate. No one backs anything because it makes sense. There's nothing logical about paying money for a video game that doesn't exist yet. Especially paying more than the game is worth! Why did I give Tim Schafer a hundred bucks?? Because he is the most exciting beardy dude ever.
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HondaCivet posted:There's nothing logical about paying money for a video game that doesn't exist yet. Especially paying more than the game is worth! Why did I give Tim Schafer a hundred bucks?? Because he is the most exciting beardy dude ever. Why didn't I give Tim Schafer 100 bucks? Because the rich bastard can fund his own games and doesn't need to beg.
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Boiled Water posted:Why didn't I give Tim Schafer 100 bucks? Because the rich bastard can fund his own games and doesn't need to beg. I'd post those joke photos of Schafer shoving $100 bills up his nose or whatever but I'm on my phone so it'd be kind of difficult, so please just pretend I did.
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Boiled Water posted:Why didn't I give Tim Schafer 100 bucks? Because the rich bastard can fund his own games and doesn't need to beg. I kind of doubt that Tim Schafer has nearly as much money as you think he does.
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Mar 29, 2012 01:03
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Saoshyant posted:Metacell 2 That video is loving incredible and the dev team appear to be awesome, I really hope they get funded. Shmup is a genre I care very little about though, so there is no way I can convince myself to fund a video game I have no intention of ever playing.
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That video for Metacell 2 was very cool but after watching it and reading the Kickstarter page I still have no idea what the new game will be. Are they saying that it will be completely different from Metacell gameplay-wise? Shoot-em-up-roleplaying-game sounds like it could be really great or really suck and even the creators don't seem to know which it is.
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Seashell Salesman posted:That video for Metacell 2 was very cool but after watching it and reading the Kickstarter page I still have no idea what the new game will be. Are they saying that it will be completely different from Metacell gameplay-wise? Shoot-em-up-roleplaying-game sounds like it could be really great or really suck and even the creators don't seem to know which it is. From the video, it's made pretty clear that they're refining the gameplay from the original and adding in RPG elements like a "good story" (yeah, I'm nervous about its quality too). I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt since the writing in the pitch video was excellent, but I'm still worried. Also, just to reiterate, I made a thread for this game. Really hope this KS can turn it around to get funded.
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It's a shame Class of Heroes 2's pitch is terrible and everything you're not supposed to do on Kickstarter (do they seriously want $500,000 to improve controls???). I liked the original game. It was the Might & Magic of handheld JRPGs where everything else was a Wizardry clone. FTL ends very soon and it looks like one of the most badass space roguelike/RTS/RPG hybrids I've seen. I can't think of any other space game that simulated boarding parties... O.R.B. maybe? Anybody remember that Homeworld ripoff? Banner Saga is one of the coolest looking video games to come out of it. Anyways, reading all these comments gives me dejavu of when Kickstarter was pretty much exclusive to musicians and artists. I started scouring KS for board games because a lot of good poo poo came out of it (D-Day Dice, Flash Point, and Alien Frontiers to name a few) but Double Fine booted the site to a mainstream audience so all the old arguments are firing up again. al-azad fucked around with this message at 02:36 on Mar 29, 2012 |
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Occupation posted:From the video, it's made pretty clear that they're refining the gameplay from the original and adding in RPG elements like a "good story" (yeah, I'm nervous about its quality too). I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt since the writing in the pitch video was excellent, but I'm still worried. It's not made at all clear what the gameplay will be. The only hint is the made up term "SRPG". Do I like SRPGs? I don't know I've never heard of one before (and it would appear neither have the creators of Metacell).
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As I noted in the thread for this, they really need to let this go and then come up with something a little better realized. Just waving your arms and saying you like shmups and RPGs isn't really terribly convincing.
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Seashell Salesman posted:It's not made at all clear what the gameplay will be. The only hint is the made up term "SRPG". Do I like SRPGs? I don't know I've never heard of one before (and it would appear neither have the creators of Metacell). Strategy RPG? Like Final Fantasy Tactics and such?
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al-azad posted:Strategy RPG? Like Final Fantasy Tactics and such? No they mean S(hoot-em-up)RPG.
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Seashell Salesman posted:It's not made at all clear what the gameplay will be. The only hint is the made up term "SRPG". Do I like SRPGs? I don't know I've never heard of one before (and it would appear neither have the creators of Metacell). Sigma Star Saga is the only one game that can be called a shmup rpg that I know of, so maybe something like that?
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Trying to get a hold of him, he'll probably get an account here.
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Nighteyedie posted:Sigma Star Saga is the only one game that can be called a shmup rpg that I know of, so maybe something like that? Knights in the Nightmare is another one, sort of.
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Urdnot Fire posted:Knights in the Nightmare is another one, sort of. If someone made Knights in the Nightmare but with most of the obscure pointless mechanics removed, they would definitely get my money. That game has a really cool core concept covered in too much needless complexity.
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HondaCivet posted:If someone made Knights in the Nightmare but with most of the obscure pointless mechanics removed, they would definitely get my money. That game has a really cool core concept covered in too much needless complexity. I still enjoy it for the fact that there's no other game like it (which as you said is sort of a good thing, given some of the elements). I'm supporting this Metacell game because it seems like it would provide such a unique experience.
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Not a game per se, but anyone want to have dinner with Sid Meier, Will Wright, or some other dudes for $300?
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zanmatto posted:Some close friends of mine actually set up a Kickstarter for a game they are producing, Metacell II. Here is the link: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/slowkid/metacell-2-beyond-the-gate?ref=search  Don't really care about the game (yet), but still pledged 25 bucks because of the video.
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GrandpaPants posted:Not a game per se, but anyone want to have dinner with Sid Meier, Will Wright, or some other dudes for $300? All 5 of John Romero's dinners have sold out with another 2 for his double Mexican dinner with Brenda Brathwaite, and 3 people want to dine with Peter Molyneux, but loving 0 buyers for Sid Meier? I want to believe that these people signed up just to be able to punch Romero and Molyneux in the face.
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KariOhki posted:So MonkeyPaw Games and Gaijinworks have jumped on the bandwagon and are doing a kickstarter to get a physical deluxe edition of Class of Heroes 2 made. It is a wonderful example of "doing it wrong". It's a charity drive rather than an actual Kickstarter. If you want the game you have to donate and then you can buy it. Or you can pay $59 now for a box of shite and a non-digital copy of the game. Also, half a million? Really? To localise a pre-existing game? If you need that much case to put together your special edition junk then don't bother with it. Apparently they've responded to the whole "why aren't you giving a digital download at an acceptable price" with comments on rights issues for the PSP/Vita between physical copies and download copies: quote:Slow and steady wins the race (we hope). I quite liked the first Class of Heroes (I've got a horrible mental problem that makes super grindy JRPGs appealing) and I've heard that CoH 2 and 3 are both significant improvements on the original. Of course, these guys want to dick around with the game mechanics in unspecified ways if you pay them.
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Occupation posted:4) Companies who don't opt in will be bitched out for not opting in. I mean yeah, Brian Fargo has taken the success of W2 to let his freak flag fly and just run his mouth about all sorts of questionable stuff, but... We'll see if this is even a thing in the next six months. Basic Chunnel fucked around with this message at 09:33 on Mar 29, 2012 |
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Tarquinn posted:
How can these guys have so few backers? Even as someone who hasn't played the earlier games, Metacell seems completely awesome and the vid is great. Did someone forget to advertise?
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evilmiera posted:How can these guys have so few backers? Even as someone who hasn't played the earlier games, Metacell seems completely awesome and the vid is great. Did someone forget to advertise? I suspect 69K is a little high. It looks like a feasible project but for that goal they need more buzz for sure
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They should probably shop their game around, get in contact with RPS or some other major gaming blogs.
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evilmiera posted:How can these guys have so few backers? Even as someone who hasn't played the earlier games, Metacell seems completely awesome and the vid is great. Did someone forget to advertise? As was pointed out before, the video is cool and all but they didn't give us a real description of the game.
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Seashell Salesman posted:As was pointed out before, the video is cool and all but they didn't give us a real description of the game. I don't know, seems pretty self-explanatory after the portion showing Metacell 1. Anyway, another game to throw on to the kickstarter pile: Valdis Story, a pretty sidescrolling action-RPG that looks rather anime. I don't think I can spend any more money on games I won't get to play for a year 
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Count Uvula posted:I don't know, seems pretty self-explanatory after the portion showing Metacell 1. They specifically say in the video that the new game will be different.
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Count Uvula posted:Valdis Story, a pretty sidescrolling action-RPG that looks rather anime. Hey, I'm digging this art style, the idea isn't bad, and they were the guys who made Legend of Fae which I remember being well received. This has all signs of being a good project. Their goal is just $8000, and $10 gets you the game.
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Count Uvula posted:I don't know, seems pretty self-explanatory after the portion showing Metacell 1. Despite the IRL catgirl this does look pretty decent and Legend of Fae was a good game.
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Saoshyant posted:Hey, I'm digging this art style, the idea isn't bad, and they were the guys who made Legend of Fae which I remember being well received. This has all signs of being a good project. Their goal is just $8000, and $10 gets you the game. Wow, I might just give them money simply because they have a reasonable goal. This just makes $69,000 for that Metacell game even more retarded.
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Wendell posted:Wow, I might just give them money simply because they have a reasonable goal. This just makes $69,000 for that Metacell game even more retarded. I dunno why people keep on saying this as a valid complaint when Auditorium 2 asked for 60k and Banner Saga asked for 100k. I mean, for just 5 bucks on the Metacell 2 KS you get copies of both it and Metacell 1; that's a pretty good deal imo.
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Count Uvula posted:I don't know, seems pretty self-explanatory after the portion showing Metacell 1. Does it? Metacell was a bejeweled-type thing, they seem to want to make a hybrid Shooter/RPG now. But there are no details. Good video, but not enough content to attract money.
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Occupation posted:I dunno why people keep on saying this as a valid complaint when Auditorium 2 asked for 60k and Banner Saga asked for 100k. It's a valid complaint because either they're making a puzzle game the likes of which there are countless free versions of on Flash game sites, and in that case why do they need so much money, or they're making something else entirely but they don't indicate what exactly it will be so in that case why do they expect to get so much money?
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