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NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

Yeah because of its setup, when you start throwing around huge, huge numbers (like tens of millions huge) it becomes more and more difficult to sustain with the loose barter system KS has in place.


Eventually we're gonna hit that KS break point; the theoretical upper limit of what KS can fund before people start demanding a real product before so much speculative backing. Dunno where it'll be, though.

I wish someone would make a graph of a month-to-month "highest funded project amount" since KS started back in 08, since I remember Tiktok holding the record from when it ended back in Dec 2010 to like three months ago, when OotS or whatever finally broke the one million ceiling. Then, of course, the next month double fine got over double that. Pretty crazy.

NieR Occomata fucked around with this message at 03:56 on Apr 17, 2012

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Dbhjed
Jul 20, 2006

Homework?!
Lipstick Apathy

Quarex posted:

Why do people like watches in the year 2012 :smith:

I like keeping my phone in my pocket unless its to answer a call, read a text message, or to check my email.

I like a watch to see what time it is with a quick bend of the wrist and a glance, it is a lot better than reaching into pocket, pulling out phone, click the wake button, reading the time, clicking the sleep button, and putting it back in my pocket.

If I can get a watch that tells; me who is calling, that I have an email, and change change my music I think that is worth $115. I also like that we can change the face and even make our own!

Davincie
Jul 7, 2008

Some info on Jane Jensens kickstarter, its a spiritual sequel to Gabriel Knight. http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/04/16/jane-jensens-next-game-is-moebius/#more-104027

Also included, a video of her daughter walking through a barn.

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

Belated Bear Witness
Soiled Meat

Davincie posted:

Some info on Jane Jensens kickstarter, its a spiritual sequel to Gabriel Knight. http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/04/16/jane-jensens-next-game-is-moebius/#more-104027

Also included, a video of her daughter walking through a barn.

How nice, her daughter's giving us a live action preview of the new game. :master:

Megalixir
Nov 10, 2007

Vanillaware ltd.

Quarex posted:

Why do people like watches in the year 2012 :smith:

They're fashion accessories. I mean, look at it:
"
ten
eleven
"

:rolleyes:

Iacen
Mar 19, 2009

Si vis pacem, para bellum



Scratch-O posted:

Give me 25 grand so I can buy toys!

He literally wants that much money to recreate Super Mario Bros. in Lego. I guarantee you that there are people in the GBS Lego thread who can and would do this for free.

I have considered doing this in HAMA beads. It would be quite smaller but a hell of a lot cheaper, I think. I think I'd go mad from doing it, though.

thrakkorzog
Nov 16, 2007

Quarex posted:

Why do people like watches in the year 2012 :smith:

Some of us grew up back when cellphones were massive bricks, and the type of watch you wore was a status symbol. While that has pretty much faded away, you can still buy a nice watch for pretty much the same cost as a nice neck tie, while being much more practical than the tie.

thrakkorzog fucked around with this message at 09:48 on Apr 17, 2012

Mordaedil
Oct 25, 2007

Oh wow, cool. Good job.
So?
Grimey Drawer

NINbuntu 64 posted:

Every time that comes up, I'm absolutely baffled as to how people can say that RPGs have strayed from their original design when many of them do little more than slap 3D graphics on to an ancient combat system. JRPGs are one of the most slow-moving (as far as evolution is concerned) genres there are right now.

And poo poo, that kid can't be older than 21. What classic RPGs came out in 2003? How the hell did he grow up with these titles?

In 2003 I think I was emulating SNES games, so I think he probably either played Final Fantasy emulated or he played RPG Maker games and feel now that it's basically used for making porn, it needs to go back to its roots as a game that at least tries to be pretentious.

I actually do like the look of the art and assets in the presentation, but I need to see more before I think it's something to throw money anywhere near.

The fact that they have an artist on board is very helpful though.

Argas
Jan 13, 2008
SRW Fanatic




Mordaedil posted:

I actually do like the look of the art and assets in the presentation, but I need to see more before I think it's something to throw money anywhere near.

The fact that they have an artist on board is very helpful though.

Yeah, the stuff they've shown thus far doesn't exactly look bad, it's just a mix of the claims they're making being rather iffy(RPGs becoming too Westernized, etc.) and that this is pretty much his first game-making experience. I mean, if it turns out great, awesome, it might actually let him make this a career. But it's a bit difficult to look at and think that it's worth pledging for at the moment. Kickstarter works great when it's supporting something that wouldn't get made by someone you like. Double Fine Adventure, Wasteland 2, etc. Person's first game project with some decent looking assets? Well, there's worse things to spend money on but there's also far better things too.

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

In case you missed it Ellwood Barlett has posted a series of videos where he discusses the gameplay mechanics of Your World.

Mordaedil
Oct 25, 2007

Oh wow, cool. Good job.
So?
Grimey Drawer

Brown Moses posted:

In case you missed it Ellwood Barlett has posted a series of videos where he discusses the gameplay mechanics of Your World.

Holy crap, it's like he doesn't know how impossible everything he says is.

cytoc
Apr 3, 2009

Brown Moses posted:

In case you missed it Ellwood Barlett has posted a series of videos where he discusses the gameplay mechanics of Your World.

I'm not sure if anyone mentioned it yet, but my personal favorite feature is the hookerbots.

Every game needs hookerbots (apparently) standing around the seedy part of town looking all hooker-ish.

What happens when you visit a hookerbot? Well...
1. Get with the hookerbots, your stats go up because you are happy.
2. Get with the hookerbot, you get a disease signified by a robotic crab that follows you around for an hour.
3. Give the money to the hooker, the pimp comes and beats you up taking an item and cash.
4. The police show up and you get put in jail (60 min cooldown on all spells and actions).

If you're worried, these are only on the 18+ servers and they have "ways" to tell whether or not you're 18.

Iacen
Mar 19, 2009

Si vis pacem, para bellum



Weren't the hookerbots only inlcuded to appease some troll in the comments? I seem to recall someone (jokingly, I hope) suggesting it and Barlett only grudgingly accepting the idea.

Now it seems like he's milking that idea for everything it's worth (Which is nothing).

mutata
Mar 1, 2003

I hope we can somehow preserve his Kickstarter page for future reference. It would be nice to have a link to give to someone who's on an "I'm the ideas guy!" kick and be like "This is you. You are this person right now."

ToxicFrog
Apr 26, 2008


Quarex posted:

Why do people like watches in the year 2012 :smith:

Because you can't take your cellphone 40 meters underwater. :colbert:

Athletic Footjob
Sep 24, 2005
Grimey Drawer

Brown Moses posted:

In case you missed it Ellwood Barlett has posted a series of videos where he discusses the gameplay mechanics of Your World.
"I actually like player controlled games; I used to love Neverwinter Nights. My problem was I could just never really get the hang of creating things myself, um, so I never really got into Neverwinter Nights much."

Megalixir
Nov 10, 2007

Vanillaware ltd.

Brown Moses posted:

In case you missed it Ellwood Barlett has posted a series of videos where he discusses the gameplay mechanics of Your World.

I don't even know what to say

Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005

Now who looks even dumber?

Beef Witch
loving :aslol: 1v1 combat switching to a 2D Street Fighter style fighter. How the gently caress does that make any sense.

pixelbaron
Mar 18, 2009

~ Notice me, Shempai! ~
If anyone is wondering the hookerbot video is the longest video in that series. I am sure that is of no surprise to any of you.

Combat and balancing? Eh, we'll get to it eventually don't worry!

Hookerbots? Heh, let me dig out my 364 page design document.

mutata
Mar 1, 2003

Yodzilla posted:

loving :aslol: 1v1 combat switching to a 2D Street Fighter style fighter. How the gently caress does that make any sense.

I actually think that could feel pretty badass if developed in the hands of a real, talented developer.

Edit: Not in an MMO though.

Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005

Now who looks even dumber?

Beef Witch
Especially an MMO in which his two choices of how combat works are either World of Warcraft or The Old Republic (aka World of Warcraft).

Dbhjed
Jul 20, 2006

Homework?!
Lipstick Apathy

Brown Moses posted:

In case you missed it Ellwood Barlett has posted a series of videos where he discusses the gameplay mechanics of Your World.

Wow, this dude is really knowledgeable about how hookers work, don't know how we are going to manage server combat balance but hot dang does he know the hooking game will work!

I don't see how this dude even thinks he will be funded for this, I think with kickstarter the first week tell tale sign of how well it is going to do.

A game with a lower funding level might be able to get finding this late in the time but he still has over a million to go, and to me the game doesn't seem promising at all

mutata
Mar 1, 2003

Dbhjed posted:

I don't see how this dude even thinks he will be funded for this,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

Retro42
Jun 27, 2011


Turns out the other link I posted went 404 so here is the Grim Dawn Kickstarter link, it just went live today:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/crateentertainment/grim-dawn

If you are an ARPG fan it'll definitely be worth a buy. Titan Quest and Immortal Throne were probably some of the most underrated games in the genre and these are the guys that made them.

testtubebaby
Apr 7, 2008

Where we're going,
we won't need eyes to see.


Brown Moses posted:

In case you missed it Ellwood Barlett has posted a series of videos where he discusses the gameplay mechanics of Your World.

LITTLE ROBOTIC CRAB.

Let us please make this game a reality.

[edit] Someone with artistic talent needs to draw a mock-up of the freakshow he describes in this video... I need this thing to be realized visually!

testtubebaby fucked around with this message at 16:23 on Apr 17, 2012

cutie
Oct 22, 2010
I'm probably missing something here but what's the point of sponsoring a kickstarter when they've already exceeded their goal?

Peaceful Anarchy
Sep 18, 2005
sXe
I am the math man.

paraspam posted:

I'm probably missing something here but what's the point of sponsoring a kickstarter when they've already exceeded their goal?
Rewards. Plus many kickstarters give milestones beyond their initial goal to encourage people to pledge towards a new goal.

Carol Pizzamom
Jul 13, 2006

a bear you feed is a bear and a steed

paraspam posted:

I'm probably missing something here but what's the point of sponsoring a kickstarter when they've already exceeded their goal?

You get rewards, like the product, or early access to it, and they often claim they'll make the product better/bring in more people/add more features if they reach certain levels of funding.

lordfrikk
Mar 11, 2010

Oh, say it ain't fuckin' so,
you stupid fuck!
I know this is petty but I wouldn't donate to a guy who's head is literally the shape of an egg :colbert:

Bilgewater
Jul 6, 2003

Pissy jorts.

Brown Moses posted:

In case you missed it Ellwood Barlett has posted a series of videos where he discusses the gameplay mechanics of Your World.

Haha, the first part of the first video has him responding to my question of how he would handle the geriatric gaming community.

Bilgewater fucked around with this message at 20:26 on Apr 21, 2015

Fintilgin
Sep 29, 2004

Fintilgin sweeps!

Retro42 posted:

It's not live yet, but looks like Grim Dawn is going the Kickstarter route too!

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/crateentertainment/1420270001?token=e2d626b8

I really liked Titan Quest, so I'm going to have to get on board with this.

Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005

Now who looks even dumber?

Beef Witch

Bilgewater posted:

Also he is an NPC in a game I'm working on:



Astoundingly he looks less cartoonish as a caricature. I think his forehead-to-jowl ratio is much more imbalanced in real life.

Dissapointed Owl
Jan 30, 2008

You wrote me a letter,
and this is how it went:

Drifter posted:

How nice, her daughter's giving us a live action preview of the new game. :master:

Don't stroke yourself.

Rap Game Goku
Apr 2, 2008

Word to your moms, I came to drop spirit bombs


lordfrikk posted:

I know this is petty but I wouldn't donate to a guy who's head is literally the shape of an egg :colbert:

I haven't watched the videos, but I imagine he sounds just like Droopy the Dog.

Annoying Reveler
Jul 16, 2002
Holy poo poo, the Your World shenanigans never cease to amaze me. I really want to believe this is an elaborate joke.

Star Guarded
Feb 10, 2008

Retro42 posted:

Turns out the other link I posted went 404 so here is the Grim Dawn Kickstarter link, it just went live today:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/crateentertainment/grim-dawn

If you are an ARPG fan it'll definitely be worth a buy. Titan Quest and Immortal Throne were probably some of the most underrated games in the genre and these are the guys that made them.
Backing for sure. I loved Titan Quest and I'm amazed by people who sacrifice/risk so much to work on something they really want to work on.

El_Matarife
Sep 28, 2002
It blows me away they're using Amazon Payment at 5% when they could just setup their own credit card system for maybe half that, or use Dwolla at 25 cents per payment. Five percent on some of those $10,0000 pledges has GOT to hurt.

silly
Jul 15, 2004

"I saw it get by the mound, and I saw Superman at second base."
To me it's a stretch to back a game with the payment processing in May 2012 for a November 2013 release. I understand the reasoning why with development costs and such but it's a pretty shaky foundation. Imagine the reaction if it starts going down the vaporware route and all that money is all spent.

NINbuntu 64
Feb 11, 2007

El_Matarife posted:

It blows me away they're using Amazon Payment at 5% when they could just setup their own credit card system for maybe half that, or use Dwolla at 25 cents per payment. Five percent on some of those $10,0000 pledges has GOT to hurt.

Amazon payments are far more popular than things like Dwolla or setting up your own credit card system. A lot of people are less apprehensive about paying for things online when it goes through a trusted source.

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TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

El_Matarife posted:

It blows me away they're using Amazon Payment at 5% when they could just setup their own credit card system for maybe half that, or use Dwolla at 25 cents per payment. Five percent on some of those $10,0000 pledges has GOT to hurt.

If you have $10k to pledge on a video game you probably have enough to pay the 5% fee.

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