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Accordion Man posted:Well I can understand it, Pathologic HD will actually be decipherable now while the remake will probably have improved gameplay changes that really sets it apart from the original. Plus the remake is pretty much going to have the same English script I assume, so why not make the most of it? Yeah, the main effort here seems to have been the new localisation, which is obviously necessary for the remake. They've said that they've basically bugfixed the original and let it work on modern systems. From what they said regarding the new features the improved graphics are from basically new effects and filtering available to modern computers, the ability to do things like up the draw distance, and better texture resolution - and often game developers will originally have had better textures that they then downscaled to hit their performance target, so they might well have just pulled those out of the archives. The models themselves are stated to remain the same. This is basically Myst Masterpiece as opposed to RealMyst. Also, apparently, Ice Pick Lodge didn't do a great deal of the work. They provided the translation, General Arcade gave it a visual uplift and engine overhaul, and Gambitious handled the publishing. EDIT: original: remaster: Not a dramatic texture quality boost at all. They might've just given them a good filter and spruced up some of the more awful ones. The real improvement seems to be from decent antialiasing and fullscreen colour grading. Both simple enough to implement with modern system calls. As for the quality of the actual remake, aside from pictures of assets: (yes, it's deliberately designed to look like udders, this is Pathologic we're talking about) the only real glimpse we've gotten of the full thing thus far is this: MikeJF fucked around with this message at 17:58 on Oct 7, 2015 |
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From what I can tell, the most dramatic change is that the remaster is browner.
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# ? Oct 7, 2015 17:25 |
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How many creepy pedos are Reverge planning on hiring this time with $1.2 mil?
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Mr Underhill posted:From what I can tell, the most dramatic change is that the remaster is browner. Other screenshots on steam show other more dramatic colour tints that the original game didn't have - sickly green shades in bad looking times, or healthy more realistic colours when things are clear. I think they've just hooked the weather and town health status into a full-screen colour grade effect as opposed to just the old lighting effects. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Oct 7, 2015 |
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Dudes, Memoranda looks rad and I really want it to be made. Could any of you, like, kidnap someone from RockPaperShotgun to write an article about it, plsktnx?
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I'm under the impression that the pathologic remake will only barely resemble the original and contain a new script, many new features, more areas to explore, etc. Basically a brand new game within the same setting. I think it's disingenuous to call it an "HD update."
Dr. Video Games 0031 fucked around with this message at 07:25 on Oct 8, 2015 |
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:I'm under the impression that the "pathologic" remake will only barely resemble the original and contain a new script, many new features, more areas to explore, etc. Basically a brand new game within the same setting. I think it's disingenuous to call it an "HD update." It gets a little confusing when things share the same title. Megazver posted:Dudes, Memoranda looks rad and I really want it to be made. Could any of you, like, kidnap someone from RockPaperShotgun to write an article about it, plsktnx? I got Mike Fahey from Kotaku by mistake, will that do?
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Nintendo Kid posted:Didn't that happen with a Serious Sam game? Fans re-remade the First and Second Encounters and Croteam and Devolver Digital made the project official.
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Hey Atarask, is there a digital only backer level? I don't live in America and I don't want stickers or a poster
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Lurdiak posted:I got Mike Fahey from Kotaku by mistake, will that do? Burn the bag.
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I sent RPS an email about it, definitely worth a shot. The guys at Skygoblin backed it so they'll probably help push it too. Here's to helping the Memoranda devs get the word out.
Accordion Man fucked around with this message at 05:42 on Oct 8, 2015 |
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Accordion Man posted:I sent RPS an email about it, definitely worth a shot. Here's to helping them get the word out. Bug other sites as well - Destructoid, Polygon Kill Screen Daily, etc. BiggerJ fucked around with this message at 05:44 on Oct 8, 2015 |
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I think IPL should have just run a Kickstarter to give the original game a real translation. They would have hit their very low target really really fast. I mean, that's all I really wanted going in, so whatever I guess it all works in the end.
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I don't want to be a bummer but RPS at least specifically say chances are slim of them writing about something that isn't playable. Not that it didn't or won't ever happen, but they just have to be blown away by the graphics/video. Here's hoping their tastes match ours.
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:I'm under the impression that the pathologic remake will only barely resemble the original and contain a new script, many new features, more areas to explore, etc. Basically a brand new game within the same setting. I think it's disingenuous to call it an "HD update." I was being slightly facetious (I'm a backer). One is an update, one is a remake. From their Kickstarter page: quote:So what exactly are we planning to do? We will keep the following untouched: But it's not a new game at all. They've said there'll be many differences and additions between the two versions, especially in terms of playability, but the main reason people backed this game in the first place was because it was an already cool game with an absolutely hosed translation. I'm not complaining about it, it's just really weird, most companies would just ditch the older version. Hakkesshu fucked around with this message at 09:39 on Oct 8, 2015 |
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Lurdiak posted:I got Mike Fahey from Kotaku by mistake, will that do? I dunno, does he have toenails for the pliers?
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Mr Underhill posted:I don't want to be a bummer but RPS at least specifically say chances are slim of them writing about something that isn't playable. Not that it didn't or won't ever happen, but they just have to be blown away by the graphics/video. Here's hoping their tastes match ours.
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# ? Oct 8, 2015 13:05 |
Bring back moo2 ripoff but totally not ripping off moo somehow so please dont compare unfavourably to the moo2 we're ripping off promise because it's completely different we're doing a different take on it I promise discussion. Mostly I just like pretending it's actually people doing their best cow impression.
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# ? Oct 8, 2015 13:23 |
moo
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Great Joe posted:Bring back moo2 ripoff but totally not ripping off moo somehow so please dont compare unfavourably to the moo2 we're ripping off promise because it's completely different we're doing a different take on it I promise discussion. See also civilization beyond earth. Totally not alpha centauri but we're going to mention alpha centauri at anyway.
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Demiurge4 posted:See also civilization beyond earth. Totally not alpha centauri but we're going to mention alpha centauri at anyway. And like many MOO-wannabes, that minute of nostalgia you got thinking about alpha centauri was the best part of the game.
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Demiurge4 posted:See also civilization beyond earth. Totally not alpha centauri but we're going to mention alpha centauri at anyway.
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Didn't remember this until today, but apparently the Elysian Shadow guy's buddy cut and ran with a year's worth of money. He's not happy about it, of course
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So is this, like, a sad story about a good kickstarter or a funny story about a bad kickstarter? I need to know before I badmouth someone who's just tryna make game.
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I dunno, I don't really follow KSes enough to form an opinion unless it's something awful like that one guy who tried to twitter war me.
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Reading the updates it seems like... They were a good kickstarter, and now maybe are not? The guy seems a bit unhinged and I don't get how you neglect gameplay for a year and don't notice, but poo poo happens and this seems like more of a sad story.
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Jordan7hm posted:Reading the updates it seems like... They were a good kickstarter, and now maybe are not? The guy seems a bit unhinged and I don't get how you neglect gameplay for a year and don't notice, but poo poo happens and this seems like more of a sad story. I've read some arguments that it's a marketing ploy as the guy has a long series of really off the wall making-of videos and as you say he's a bit eccentric.
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I don't know much about how Elysian Shadows went after funding, but looking at the campaign page it appears to be a pixel art game trying to sell itself with over-abuse of lighting and shadow effects, which is a huge red flag because that is (almost always) done by third party tools (and also because IMO it looks quite ugly). edit: Also, OUYA is in the title of the kickstarter. Trapezium Dave fucked around with this message at 07:38 on Oct 10, 2015 |
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Trapezium Dave posted:I don't know much about how Elysian Shadows went after funding, but looking at the campaign page it appears to be a pixel art game trying to sell itself with over-abuse of lighting and shadow effects, which is a huge red flag because that is (almost always) done by third party tools (and also because IMO it looks quite ugly). Yeah it's a pretty rear end-ugly game and lighting ALWAYS ALWAYS looks better with pixel art when it's drawn as part of the actual artwork. The only pixel art game that looks remotely good with light/shadow effects handled by shader poo poo is Legend of Dungeon. And this is because it plays with scenery geometry (the actual "pixel art" bits—characters, etc—aren't really all that impressive or good looking)
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It's not just that it was ugly. I can admire ugly games if they are trying to do something else that is impressive. It's that it is using its ugliness as a main selling point.
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Elysian Shadows is the Dreamcast JRPG, right? If so, it got backed because it's a Dreamcast JRPG, it's that simple. Pandering to retro console fans is like shooting fish in a barrel, they'll pay for any old garbage. RE: pixel art with great lighting, go check out Brigador.
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# ? Oct 10, 2015 07:47 |
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Anything pixelly not using spritelamp or similar stuff looks...weird.
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Ghostlight posted:It's not really comparable since the only reason they don't call it Alpha Centauri is they don't own the name anymore. And also it seems to have no intention of actually trying to be a successor to Alpha Centauri. it's also not like AC at all and is bad unlike AC.
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# ? Oct 10, 2015 14:08 |
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Oh hey cool a pyramid scheme trying to take advantage of people who run Kickstarters http://www.crowdfundingbackers.com
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star citizen's stream has started and all they have to show is a clock that hasn't updated in 10 minutes http://www.twitch.tv/starcitizen/
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Suspicious Dish posted:star citizen's stream has started and all they have to show is a clock that hasn't updated in 10 minutes Sounds metaphorical.
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I don't know, goons, if I wasn't aware of all the shenanigans re: Star Citizen and was just watching this blind I would have to say it looks kinda cool . Still not paying money for spaceships, though.
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Suspicious Dish posted:star citizen's stream has started and all they have to show is a clock that hasn't updated in 10 minutes
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Just utter SJW and see them circlejerking.
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...Well now I feel goddamn wary. The Aurion kickstarter has been getting a bit of a PR push the last few days, and it was nice to see it slowly push up the daily average to a point that might see it start to reach its goal... And then I look again and its suddenly spiked by about 7000 euros. None of the pledge tiers above 1000 euros have been claimed. That feels dubious as poo poo.
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