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crazycello
Jul 22, 2009


So are you squatting heavy every day or what?

If I remember right you hit 365 earlier, but sets at 335+ for three days straight is no joke.

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Boogan
May 1, 2005

f off


My low bar squat is around 390, high bar max is 355. I'm not really trying to break PRs right now, just sort of getting used to the frequency, learning how to gauge volume/intensity on a workout-by-workout basis, etc.

e: I forgot to actually answer your question, hah. Yeah, squatting up to a training max every day, and then possibly working up to twice a day a few times a week. Still not sure about benching/pressing though, my shoulders definitely don't recover as well as my legs do.

Just saw this in your log:


welp. gotta double my reps

Boogan fucked around with this message at Jun 1, 2012 around 21:01

Boogan
May 1, 2005

f off


Squatted yesterday, about to squat today. I'll log it in a bit. I just wanted to note the most hosed-up thing. Since daily squatting, all the niggling pains in my knees? Gone. The weird popping in my hip? Gone. The unexplained ankle soreness/stiffness? Gone.

Boogan
May 1, 2005

f off


Yesterday's workout:
Barbell Squat:
- 45 lb x 4 reps
- 135 lb x 2 reps
- 225 lb x 2 reps
- 275 lb x 1 reps
- 315 lb x 1 reps
- 335 lb x 1 reps
- 355 lb x 1 reps
- 335 lb x 1 reps
- 275 lb x 2 reps
- 275 lb x 2 reps
Bent Over Barbell Row:
- 135 lb x 8 reps
- 185 lb x 5 reps
- 205 lb x 5 reps
- 205 lb x 5 reps
- 205 lb x 5 reps
fito2sa


Today's workout:
Barbell Squat:
- 45 lb x 4 reps
- 135 lb x 2 reps
- 185 lb x 2 reps
- 185 lb x 2 reps
- 225 lb x 2 reps
- 275 lb x 1 reps
- 315 lb x 1 reps
- 275 lb x 2 reps
- 225 lb x 2 reps
- 225 lb x 2 reps
- today it occurred to me that if my training max is lower, my back-off sets should be lower too.
Parallel-Grip Pull-Up:
- 5 reps
- 17 reps
- 11 reps
- 9 reps
- 8 reps
- 15 reps
- ssw bench
Barbell Bench Press:
- 45 lb x 4 reps
- 115 lb x 2 reps
- 135 lb x 2 reps
- 185 lb x 2 reps
- 205 lb x 2 reps
- 225 lb x 1 reps
fito2sa

Still getting the hang of the idea of a "training max" rather than an absolute max. Both workouts cut short, first one from pain, second one from time constraints.

Seems like my legs only start to really hurt when my reps start slowing down. I'm thinking I might just not go above 315 until I get used to the volume/frequency and focus only on explosiveness/technique.or)

Boogan fucked around with this message at Jun 2, 2012 around 23:30

Boogan
May 1, 2005

f off


Squat:
blah
blah
blah
315x1
295x1
275x1
225x2
225x2
225x2

was gonna do pullups/push press but THE PAAAIIIN.... so I just went home. Just gotta keep telling myself this is all part of the transformation from weekly squatting to daily squatting and eventually I'll adapt and this will become the norm. My goal is to move a combined 4000lbs every workout. Today was 3600 but I just didn't have two more backoff sets in me.

Boogan
May 1, 2005

f off


Did this workout about 4 hours after my squats. 2nd workout I've had to cut short now.

Push Press:
- 45 lb x 2 reps
- 45 lb x 4 reps
- 95 lb x 2 reps
- 135 lb x 2 reps
- 155 lb x 1 reps
- 155 lb x 1 reps
- 175 lb x F
- 175 lb x 1 reps
- 155 lb x 1 reps
- 135 lb x 2 reps
- 135 lb x 2 reps
- 135 lb x 2 reps
- Failed 175 first attempt. SSW mostly with pullups and some rack dead warmups.
Parallel-Grip Pull-Up:
- 5 reps
- 3 reps || weighted || 60 lb
- 3 reps || weighted || 60 lb
- 3 reps || weighted || 60 lb
- 3 reps || weighted || 60 lb
- 3 reps || weighted || 60 lb
- 14 reps
- elbows/shoulders just sayin' no
Rack Deadlift:
- 135 lb x 2 reps
- 225 lb x 2 reps
- 315 lb x 2 reps
- 365 lb x 1 reps
- 365 lb x 1 reps
- 405 lb x 1 reps
- 455 lb x 1 reps
- 495 lb x 1 reps
- 545 lb x F
- Failed on 545. Used chalk and mixed grip on last 3 sets, grip was not at all a factor. Actually my low back was rounding so I just dropped it.
fito2sa

food:
b+n 500
9 eggs 540
3 pork kebabs 300
2 steak kebabs 200
5 chicken kebabs 500
4 shrimp dumplings 300
about a cup (?) of assorted squid parts 200
a cupcake 0 doesn't count
1/2 deluxe pizza 700
milk 400

total: ~3600... ugh fml like 2000 calories short

Boogan
May 1, 2005

f off


gently caress

squat
blah
315x1
315x1
bleh

bench
blah
225x2
245xF

row:
185x5x3

one rep at 135 and one rep at 315 were fast on squats. everything else was slow as poo poo flowing uphill. almost passed out on my backoff sets too, vision started going white.

to console myself, i did a bunch of arms bullshit at the end. maybe i should just give up on compound lifts and only ever do arms...

Boogan
May 1, 2005

f off


Updated the OP a bit with some information about my current training madness.

Yesterday's food:
b/n 500
9 eggs 630
4 burritos 960
1 pizza 1440
5 glasses milk 1000
total: 4530

Now that's more like it. Still about 1k short of my ideal target but meh. Learning experience. I tried to see if I could eat enough just going by how satiated I felt, but I just don't eat right unless I straight up have a full menu prepared in advance. I'm pretty bad at this.

Barbell Squat:
- 45 lb x 2 reps
- 135 lb x 2 reps
- 185 lb x 2 reps
- 225 lb x 2 reps
- 275 lb x 1 reps
- 315 lb x 1 reps
- 335 lb x 1 reps
- 295 lb x 1 reps
- 275 lb x 1 reps
- 285 lb x 1 reps
- 295 lb x 1 reps
- 315 lb x 1 reps
- 335 lb x 1 reps
- yeah baby. feelin' a lot better today.
Parallel-Grip Pull-Up:
- 20 reps
- 12 reps
- 10 reps
- 7 reps
- 7 reps
- 8 reps
- 7 reps
- 12 reps
- Didn't get a total rep PR but this was with relatively little rest for the first few sets and also I finally hit 20 so DONT CARE DONT CARE WOO HOO
Rack Deadlift:
- 135 lb x 2 reps
- 225 lb x 2 reps
- 315 lb x 1 reps
- 365 lb x 1 reps
- 315 lb x 2 reps
- 315 lb x 2 reps
- 315 lb x 2 reps
fito2sa

I've been waiting for this for so long. My legs hurt less today than they have before. There's light at the end of the tunnel. I would have done some more backoff sets with squats and a LOT more sets of rack deadlifts but people were constantly hounding me for the power cage so whatever.

mobiusrage
Mar 26, 2007

Infinite loop of injuries

Holy poo poo...this is MADNESS. Upping squat volume for me caused a little knee pain, but that's awesome if it's fixed yours.
Hope this works for you, jealous.

Boogan
May 1, 2005

f off


Well, I wouldn't say it fixed it, per se...

The medial, lateral, and anterior knee pain I was experiencing (and appear to have been cured of) was due to ~muscle imbalances~ or whateverthefuck. Don't get me wrong. My knees still hurt. Like a motherfucker. But it's a different kind of pain. My quadriceps tendon is inflamed and hurts to the touch, but it doesn't bother me except when I fully flex my knee. That's located above the patella, so it's not really an injurious kind of pain. It's just an overuse issue that will go away as I get used to the volume.

The other kind of pain is what I've read described as having your legs beaten by an iron bar - although I described mine as with a baseball bat. That's all up in my upper quad area and, again, it's just my muscles not being used to the volume. This is the one that really affects my workouts because it makes it tough to squat explosively, and the slower the rep the greater the pain.

To balance out all these words, here's a video of me doing squats today:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4CdJpJ8WHA

I think I'm sitting back a lot better than I was in my previous 315x1 vid? It's hard to tell because of the camera angle. Unfortunately I decelerated too slow and got stuck in the hole. When I ramped up to 315 a second time it was a lot smoother.

Boogan
May 1, 2005

f off


Barbell Squat:
- 45 lb x 2 reps
- 45 lb x 2 reps
- 135 lb x 2 reps
- 185 lb x 2 reps
- 225 lb x 2 reps
- 275 lb x 1 reps
- 315 lb x 1 reps
- 335 lb x 1 reps
- 355 lb x F
- 315 lb x 1 reps
- 275 lb x 1 reps
- 225 lb x 2 reps
- 225 lb x 2 reps
- 225 lb x 2 reps
- 275 lb x 1 reps
- 315 lb x 1 reps
- 275 lb x 1 reps
- 295 lb x 1 reps
- 275 lb x 1 reps
- 225 lb x 3 reps
- 225 lb x 3 reps
- 225 lb x 3 reps
- Failed 355 after set 8. I will get it again, though.
Push Press:
- 45 lb x 2 reps
- 75 lb x 2 reps
- 115 lb x 2 reps
- 135 lb x 2 reps
- 145 lb x 1 reps
- 145 lb x 1 reps
- 145 lb x 1 reps
- 155 lb x 1 reps
- 165 lb x 1 reps
- 175 lb x 1 reps
- 185 lb x F
- 145 lb x 2 reps
- 145 lb x 2 reps
- 145 lb x 2 reps
- Failed on 185. Really just focusing on exploding as hard as possible from the bottom, not worrying too much about PRs
Parallel-Grip Pull-Up:
- 5 reps
- 3 reps || weighted || 65 lb
- 3 reps || weighted || 65 lb
- 3 reps || weighted || 65 lb
- 3 reps || weighted || 65 lb
- 3 reps || weighted || 65 lb
- 3 reps || weighted || 65 lb
- 10 reps
- 10 reps
- 10 reps
fito2sa

Last sets of 10 pullups done as explosively as possible to about mid-sternum.

Here's my 2nd last set of pullups:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xsfFBctFBA

Boogan fucked around with this message at Jun 6, 2012 around 23:16

Boogan
May 1, 2005

f off


YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Barbell Squat:
- 45 lb x 2 reps
- 135 lb x 2 reps
- 185 lb x 2 reps
- 225 lb x 2 reps
- 275 lb x 1 reps
- 295 lb x 1 reps
- 315 lb x 1 reps
- 335 lb x 1 reps
- 355 lb x 1 reps
- 315 lb x 1 reps
- 295 lb x 1 reps
- 275 lb x 1 reps
- 225 lb x 2 reps
- 225 lb x 2 reps
- 225 lb x 2 reps
- YEAH BABY! Finally hit 355 again. I'm definitely starting to get used to the volume. Pain normally hits on my first 275, didnt feel it until after 355 today.
Bent Over Barbell Row:
- 135 lb x 5 reps
- 185 lb x 5 reps
- 205 lb x 5 reps
- 205 lb x 5 reps
- 205 lb x 5 reps
- 205 lb x 5 reps
- 205 lb x 5 reps
- 225 lb x 5 reps
- 225 lb x 5 reps
- 225 lb x 5 reps
- lol I remember back in the day when I thought this was a lot of volume...
fito2sa

That rep at 355 was tough as poo poo. During the rep some guy (6'6 rugby player) was doing pullups, finished, came over, was gonna spot me, but I managed to grind it out. We were both like . It was a real broment.

Boogan
May 1, 2005

f off


squats

Pointsman
Oct 9, 2010

I am Carbman, and my super power is bloat.


holy poo poo

Norse Code
Mar 9, 2007

Sir! A message from Bentham!



Norse Code fucked around with this message at Jun 8, 2012 around 19:44

SpecialK2
Jul 29, 2008
Breakfast of Champions who don't work out


I want to believe.

KBD
Mar 24, 2010

get a butt


I just want.

Blue Steel
Aug 19, 2009

The Once and Future Twink

lets have a quads battle

crazycello
Jul 22, 2009


look at this lovely loving photoshop. THERE ARE CLEARLY BENT KITCHEN TILES AND SHADOW IMBALANCES!!!!

my number is 669-6969 call me

Citrine
Jan 2, 2012
Please remind me to go practice pull-ups.



Holy poo poo. That's p. hot.

Boogan
May 1, 2005

f off


Blue Steel posted:

lets have a quads battle

see you in the squat rack, 2014 brother

Boogan
May 1, 2005

f off


i'll be the guy wearing sweatpants because gently caress finding pants that fit

KBD
Mar 24, 2010

get a butt


I want to say something creepy but my brain can't seem to work and look at that picture at the same time, sry

Umbriago
Aug 27, 2004



Man you're going to have to start wearing special trousers soon

Boogan
May 1, 2005

f off


I took yesterday off. My recovery is pretty insane right now. I feel fuckin' SPRY, like an hour after this workout. Also fitocracy is down so I have to type all this out AAARERRGGHHH

squat
45x2
135x2
185x2
225x2
275x1 (this is where my legs usually start to hurt)
295x1
315x1
335x1
355x1 (this is kind of a PR because the bar I used here is 2.5lbs heavier, there was a guy spotting me who touched it during my sticking point but I was at the top so I would have gotten it anyway, hence why I still count it)
315x1
295x1 (this is where my legs actually started hurting)
275x1
225x3
225x3
225x3
MAN. Every rep felt good and was fast except 355 obvs. Took a lot longer for the pain to kick in and it wasn't nearly as severe as usual, either.

Neutral grip pull-ups
22 (gently caress yeah)
15
10
10
8
8
12
12
4 (just to be cheeky... puts me at 101 for the session)
SSW...
BB overhead press
45x5
75x2
95x2
115x2
135x2
145x1
155x1
160xF the f stands for FUUUCK
145x1
145x1
145x1, F, F

Definitely stalled on these but my dietary habits have been so bad lately I'm embarrassed to even post them so no surprise there. On the plus side, my failure to bulk effectively over the last few weeks in tandem with me training my loving rear end off has yielded a noticeable improvement in leanness, so I guess I can't really lose.

Boogan
May 1, 2005

f off


Pros: I have discovered the secret to why I can't sleep and have been enjoying the best sleep I've had for months these last couple of days.

Cons: It's from eating before bed.

My schedule looks something like this:
11am-2pm - wake up, go to gym
2pm-7pm - do whatever
7pm-4am work
5am sleep

So basically I have to cram all my calories in between 2 and 7pm, and then usually my last meal before bed. I can't see any way around this - I either trade sleep for gains, or try to eat 5500 calories in 5 hours. Eating at work isn't a very good option, either. Last night I chewed the same piece of gum for the entire shift because I was too busy to spit it out.

Defiant Sally
May 6, 2004

Cum all over my mirrors just gettin off on my self maan, UUAOHH

WORSHIPPIN' this BIIG motherfucker.

*breath whistles in through stuffed up nose*



new goal acquired

190 would be easily obtainable if I conjured up quads like that lmao

Boogan
May 1, 2005

f off


Yet your squat is basically the same as mine. ihatechu

Boogan
May 1, 2005

f off


Oh yeah. Also this workout was fukken' unreal and my legs feel great

Barbell Squat:
- 45 lb x 1 reps
- 45 lb x 2 reps
- 135 lb x 2 reps
- 185 lb x 2 reps
- 225 lb x 2 reps
- 275 lb x 1 reps
- 295 lb x 1 reps
- 315 lb x 1 reps
- 335 lb x 1 reps
- 355 lb x F
<continuous squat dropset>
- 315 lb x 1 reps
- 295 lb x 1 reps
- 275 lb x 1 reps
- 225 lb x 3 reps
</continuous squat dropset>
- 225 lb x 3 reps
- 225 lb x 3 reps
- Failed on 355. I think I'm going to start going 335, 345 for a while.
Parallel-Grip Pull-Up:
- 5 reps
- 3 reps || weighted || 70 lb
- 3 reps || weighted || 70 lb
- 3 reps || weighted || 70 lb
- 3 reps || weighted || 70 lb
- 3 reps || weighted || 70 lb
- 3 reps || weighted || 80 lb
- 1 reps || weighted || 90 lb
- 1 reps || weighted || 100 lb
- 100 POUNDS YEAHHHH
Rack Deadlift:
- 225 lb x 2 reps
- 275 lb x 2 reps
- 315 lb x 2 reps
- 315 lb x 1 reps
- 315 lb x 2 reps
- 335 lb x 1 reps
- 355 lb x 1 reps
- 355 lb x 1 reps
- Still getting the hang of this I guess. Done about 4 inches below the knee.
fito2sa

Defiant Sally
May 6, 2004

Cum all over my mirrors just gettin off on my self maan, UUAOHH

WORSHIPPIN' this BIIG motherfucker.

*breath whistles in through stuffed up nose*


Boogan posted:

Yet your squat is basically the same as mine. ihatechu

Do you know how infuriating it is to be able to squat 350, yet be completely unable to add any mass to my legs?

Swole person problems

Boogan
May 1, 2005

f off


I actually have the worst back DOMS of my entire life right now.

Barbell Squat:
- 45 lb x 2 reps
- 135 lb x 2 reps
- 185 lb x 2 reps
- 225 lb x 2 reps
- 275 lb x 1 reps
- 295 lb x 1 reps
- 315 lb x 1 reps
- 335 lb x 1 reps
- 315 lb x 1 reps
- 225 lb x 2 reps
- 225 lb x 2 reps
- 335 and the following 315 were perhaps the slowest reps I've ever done. I actually full-on stopped at my sticking point, but managed to push through.
Standing Barbell Shoulder Press:
- 45 lb x 2 reps
- 75 lb x 2 reps
- 95 lb x 2 reps
- 115 lb x 2 reps
- 135 lb x 2 reps
- 145 lb x 1 reps
- 145 lb x 1 reps
- Failed on 155
Bent Over Barbell Row:
- 135 lb x 5 reps
- 225 lb x 5 reps
- 225 lb x 5 reps
- 225 lb x 5 reps
- 225 lb x 5 reps
- 225 lb x 4 reps
- meh
fito2sa

workout was poo. w/e. there's always tomorrow

KBD
Mar 24, 2010

get a butt


335? You call 335 "poo"?! "Whatever"?! Please make love to me

wasianchickn
Sep 4, 2006

welp


KBD posted:

335? You call 335 "poo"?! "Whatever"?! Please make love to me

My butt is bigger than his.

mobiusrage
Mar 26, 2007

Infinite loop of injuries

Shine posted:

I think you've seen this, possibly on the last page and possibly posted by me because I post it everywhere, but I'm too much of a lazyass to go check so here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBHzXF-mVjY


Boogan posted:

Haha, I think I'm the one responsible for popularizing it (although I stole it from someone in the form check thread, I just started posting it everywhere after I tried it). Yes, that's what I'll be doing. It's rather amazing.

Oh poo poo, just realized it was me
http://forums.somethingawful.com/sh...0#post400942773

Boogan posted:

Oh my god this poo poo is incredibllllle

Feels good man.

And holy poo poo on your quads, next time I squat heavy for extended periods of time I'm going to have to go high bar.

Boogan
May 1, 2005

f off


Haha yeah, it was you too. I should do it at home before I go to squat when my legs are feeling particularly lovely (like today), but to be honest... I just squat. Squatting fixed most of my issues. I used to have medial, anterior, and lateral knee pain, a lot of soreness in both my ankles, and a weird popping problem in both hips. Both knees are now pain-free (except for some quad tendon irritation but that's just from the volume/frequency), and my left ankle/hip are fine. My right ankle/hip have improved a lot but are still a little "weird".

wasianchickn posted:

My butt is bigger than his.

Probably... but since I switched from lowbar to hibar squatting I've been getting the most ridiculous glute DOMS, so I expect that to change.

And KBD, yeah, I judge my workouts on 3 variables. 1) The weight lifted, 2) the speed of the reps, and 3) how much pain I'm in. Today I missed my max by 20lbs, lifted the slowest reps of my life, and hurt too much to finish my squatting. 0/3. That's a bad workout.

Fortunately I did a bunch of cable crossovers and brocep curls at the end and that made it all better. Also my back is getting strong as gently caress which means I'm getting closer to my goal of having a back that is actually scary in a literal rather than metaphorical way.

Boogan
May 1, 2005

f off


Took yesterday off to spend the day with my mom. I'm such a good son.

Today I woke up and my legs felt awful. Just achy and stiff. I was actually planning on going in and just doing a few straight sets of 225 and then leaving... but then this happened:
Barbell Squat:
- 45 lb x 2 reps
- 135 lb x 2 reps
- 185 lb x 2 reps
- 225 lb x 2 reps
- 275 lb x 1 reps
- 295 lb x 1 reps
- 315 lb x 1 reps
- 335 lb x 1 reps
- 345 lb x 1 reps
- 315 lb x 1 reps
- 295 lb x 1 reps
- 275 lb x 2 reps
- 275 lb x 2 reps
- 295 lb x 1 reps
- 315 lb x 1 reps
- 225 lb x 2 reps
- 225 lb x 2 reps
- 225 lb x 2 reps
- took me a bit less than an hour. reps were FLYING up today.
Rack Deadlift:
- 135 lb x 2 reps
- 225 lb x 2 reps
- 275 lb x 1 reps
- 315 lb x 2 reps
- 315 lb x 2 reps
- 315 lb x 2 reps
- 315 lb x 2 reps
- 315 lb x 2 reps
- ssw chins
Parallel-Grip Pull-Up:
- 23 reps
- 14 reps
- 14 reps
- 14 reps
- 11 reps
- 10 reps
- 8 reps
- 10 reps
- 104 in 8 sets. I rule
fito2sa

now i shall lie motionless in bed for about 2 hours

KBD
Mar 24, 2010

get a butt


Boogan posted:

now i shall lie motionless in bed for about 2 hours

This is my cue

Boogan
May 1, 2005

f off


drat girl, 2 hours!? maybe i'll take up running after all

mewse
May 2, 2006



drat girl, lying motionless?

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Boogan
May 1, 2005

f off


reeeeaaaally don't wanna squat today. also gonna try a one-arm chin but i don't think i'll get it. i'll probably have to be chinning at least 3 plates before I can.

need about a 160lb one-arm row, 160x2 = 320, - my bodyweight = 140lbs

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