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Shipyard Order change I've been informed that any shipyard is capable of rapairing any ship that will fit inside, regardless of tooling. Therefore I'm ordering that before any new El Dorados are built, Vancouver Naval Yard shall first begin processing the repairs of all ships damaged during the recent conflict, most damaged ships first. Berlin II S/M designs are outlined in this post. Unless I'm particularly misinformed, they'll require the new armour tech first anyway. Furthermore, having received the BuShips report on the maintenance condition, UNS Bohol and UNS Romblon are to rendezvous and escort UNS El Dorado and UNS Klondike respectively. The captains of the survey vessels may then proceed with the system survey in the order they feel is most efficient. (IE, set them to 'survey next 3 survey locations' automation.)
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Innocent_Bystander posted:I am changing my vote from Scribbleykins to Saros because the latter has been displaying a good grasp of game knowledge and a willingness to contribute in IRC, which will make rapid UNEC consensusbuilding a lot easier. Fair enough. I once did the 'contribute on IRC and discuss things' for another cooperative LP thread. It was fun, but sticking around on IRC chewed up so much of my time and focus that I'm leery of doing it again. I mean, sure, I could probably drop by, but I don't want to -have- to be on IRC regularly.
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Oooh! Names for stuff! In addition to the ones already put forth, I would like to propose Kirondatal, Sekenke, Yanacocha, Xanadu, Cullinan, Kimberly and Machu Picchu.
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So is it safe to say that Saros got elected for the UNSA? I'd like to know before I start making proposals.
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Dr. Snark posted:So is it safe to say that Saros got elected for the UNSA? I'd like to know before I start making proposals. No. The election is still active. The current deadline is in 5.5 hours.
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Welcome back to UNN, the United Nations most trusted name in news from across the solar system. The United Nations has begun to withdraw warships from the Mars battle zone, though it would appear the UNS Negros has been lost. We have received reports though that all surviving crew managed to evacuate before the ship was destroyed. We’ll bring you more information as the situation develops. As always we’ll be holding a small tribute to the fallen soldiers of the UN at the end of this broadcast. Now to news around the world:  In Malaysia, Tropical Storm Darla made landfall in the state of Sabah, crashing into the sea barriers of Kota Kinabalu. The cyclone has already caused millions of euros worth of damages and there are at least several hundred reported fatalities. Prime Minister Kesuma Wan has declared a state of emergency for the state and is prepared to mobilize the nation’s reserves to assist in rescue and relief efforts should the recovery effort require. Several western charities, along with Red Crescent and Red Crystal agencies are also preparing to respond.  China is still reeling today from yesterday’s horrific market shooting in Beijing. Reports are still coming in but from what we've been able to learn so far are that the shooter’s name was Lee Zhang, and he was a former combat engineer in the People’s Liberation Army and the Federation National Armed Forces. Zhang was apparently on shore leave when the civil war broke out on Mars and he learned about his brigades’ defection. According to unconfirmed report, journals found at Zhang’s residence indicate that he held strong Free Mars sentiment and wanted to “fight for the cause”. Premier Daniu Chen has called for a national day of mourning to honor those slain in the attack. Spokesmen from the Brotherhood could not be reached for comment  The Ng Yam business plaza in Singapore opened it’s doors for business today. Located on the Sabana artificial island, construction began three years ago, but was sadly met with many delays as well as the 2032 financial scandal the rocked the city state when the economics minister Roland Yacob and his top chiefs were arrested for embezzlement. The Sabana project was one of the main sources of Yacob’s ill-gotten gains, and sadly cost investors millions not only in stolen funds, but loss of business the delays caused. Sources inside the government say that now the island and many of its principle buildings have been completed, the financial sector is breathing a sigh of relief.  Toyota today unveiled their new line of UGV vehicles and constructors. Aimed at heavy construction firms looking to operate on Callisto and Tranquility, these new drones have state of the art sensors that are capable of a finer degree of vision and capable of reading various signals and data present for the drone and operator. In addition to a larger cargo compartment, and finer tuned TNE motors that allow them to go speed up to 19 km/h. Toyota has already received a backlog of orders from dozens of firms on Tranquility eager to expand their drone fleet, though they have had less success in marketing the drone to firms on Callisto, where the strong union presence has discouraged some of the more advanced automation that is used on Earth and Tranquility.  For the fifth straight week in a row, Eric Jenson’s film, Lazarus has topped the box office charts. Praised for fusing neo-noir styling’s with an engaging spy plot that centers on the story of Filipe Ramirez, a detective who becomes embroiled in a global conspiracy when he discovers evidence that an international conglomerate is plotting a rebellion on Luna to prop up a corrupt puppet state. Having received a Metacritic score of 91% and a Rotten Tomato’s “certified fresh” rating, Lazarus is expected to continue its hold of the box office for the next few weeks. The film has received some controversy about its story given the current situation on Mars, but it hasn't had an impact on box office returns. Warner Brothers-Paramount have already announced a sequel, expected in 2036. We now return to the second part in our journey into the Syrian Zone of Alienation, follow our reporter Tom Walker as he returns to the place where UN and Federation first clashed two long decades ago:  We made our way into the city proper as the sun disappeared over the horizon. The dark jungle of twisted metal eclipsed much of our sight as we entered the ruins of Damascus. The scout camp we were trying to locate was deeper in the city, and my guards wanted us to get there as quickly as possible. I asked why, and they said that the survivors, the people who choose to stay in the Zone didn't take kindly to soldiers and might be tempted to try and attack our smaller group for our supplies. I tried to ask more, but they shoved me forward and said they questions could come after we got to camp.  We got to the camp around half an hour later. The commander was waiting for our group to arrive; his name was lieutenant Abbas Gilani. His little platoon was part of the Federation 9th company, nicknamed the “Park Rangers”. They were responsible for maintaining scout elements deep within the Zone. I tried to ask lieutenant Gilani about operations, but he ordered me to go to sleep. I protested at first, but he smiled and said that there would be plenty of time for questions tomorrow as he gave me “the grand tour.”  Dawn broke over the camp much sooner than I thought it would, I didn't realize we had spent so much time moving the night before. Lieutenant Gilani greeted me as began to walk around the nearly deserted camp. I asked him where all his men were and he said “out on patrol, we need every body to see what the survivors are up to. They’re mostly harmless, but my government is worried about one group potentially finding one of Assad’s old weapons caches and causing mischief.”* He then shook his head and told me that we’d be sallying out in half an hour and that I’d better be ready for “the most depressing museum tour in history.”** *Off the record, several soldiers I talked to mentioned that the Federation government was principally concerned with groups attempting to find old chemical weapons caches. Apparently even in the war and the sweep afterwards, the Federation was never able to find all the old chemical weapons stores. **According to some of the soldiers, due to budget cuts in their area, there has been a drastic cut in the Syrian peacekeeping mission, and as a result, this camp which once held a company of soldiers was reduced to holding a simple platoon. It should be noted that I am using UN military designations for the sake of convenience.  True to his word, the lieutenant got us out in half an hour. Our little group of ten began to make our way across the ruins of Damascus. I remember passing by an old restaurant that I used to eat at when I was on assignment here…I still remember the waitress, a woman named Raheel, would always bring me free cups of coffee when I visited, some peacekeepers had been making a habit to not paying the bill, so I passed the message onto Anderson, and he made a big deal about it in one of his broadcasts...Hehe We also passed by ruined parks, ruined banks, ruined skyscrapers, just hours and hours of ruins, We eventually came to an old apartment block that seemed stable enough to enter. The rooms still had furniture and many possessions were right where they had been. The Lieutenant shook his head “most likely this family died in the initial bombardment, probably somewhere downtown. It’s amazing this place hasn't been looted yet”. He then went to check some of the cupboards, only to find them empty. “Food and medicine have been taken, but they left everything else. Among some of the groups there’s a small code of honor that forbids needless looting. Take only what’s needed, leave everything else, respect the dead. This block must be in one of those honorable groups territory”.  As we left the apartment, I grilled the lieutenant about the gangs. He explained that the Federation launched massive evacuation efforts to get as many surviving Syrians out of the country after the war, but some groups refused to leave, they didn't want to leave their homeland, regardless of the fact that it was now a radioactive dust pile. These groups had at first been united in resisting the evacuation orders, but soon splintered and fragmented as each group fought for what scant resources were left in their abandoned country. As we left the area, I came across this mural. Apparently icons like this are common in the Zone.  Night quickly fell as we made our way back to the camp. The lieutenant kept cursing that he let us stay out this long. I asked his if he was concerned about the gangs, and he said that most of Damascus was the center of the more militant gangs who opposed the Federation. “At most theses only a couple thousand people still here, but my platoon only had fifty six people, we’re just lucky that the groups spend so much time fighting each other they haven’t decided to wipe us off the map yet.” Almost as soon as he said that, he tossed up a hand and pushed me down behind some rubble. Crouching, he activated his helmet HUD and began issuing orders in Persian. After a few moments, he looked at me and said “Movement, in the building above us and on the ground…maybe 15-20 people. Armed. Stay down.” The soldiers began to fan out and find cover, though the lieutenant stayed close to me. Several minutes passed in utter silence, then several loud cracks echoed across the empty street. The squad began to communicate in Persian once more and started to shoot at targets I couldn't see. I cannot say for certain how long the firefight lasted, I stayed faced down in the only occasionally looking up to see the lieutenant barking orders, or occasionally shooting. Slowly the gun fire began to die down, and he began to shout and what I assume to be, curse in Persian... Then a bullet shattered his helmet’s face plate. My camera man Aaron and I began to run, it was stupid of us to do it, but we ran, we got maybe a hundred or so feet before we began their the bullets whiz past our heads. We dove into a rubble pile and curled up. Hiding as best as we could.  We sat there for god knows how long, we could hear them, but we couldn't see them. The sun began to rise when Aaron decided to lift the camera up to see what was going on... Special thanks to Innocent Bystander for helping me find some of these awesome pictures. Jimmy4400nav fucked around with this message at 20:57 on Apr 8, 2013 |
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Saros is currently ahead by 20-19. At least one vote was made just to keep things even (...  can't argue with having fun in an internet game), but most votes have already been cast, so it should be over soon.
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Apr 8, 2013 19:38
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21-19, actually, if Antares' late vote counts for this go 'round. It's still rather gratifyingly even, but the voting does seem to have died down. Since I'll most likely be sleeping when it ends, I want to thank Saros for the competition, and say that I am looking forward to work with him, in whatever capacity. Here's to SCIENCE! And all your snazzy little guns. As an aside, Jimmy is to be commended, again and again, for breathing life into this setting of yours, bgreman. Is it possible to drop people OOC medals? Because he deserves a Distinguished LPer's Service award.
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Scribbleykins posted:21-19, actually, if Antares' late vote counts for this go 'round. Antares's vote will obviously count since the voting deadline has been extended. As for OOC medals, sure. Jimmy is hereby awarded the Distinguished LPer's Service Award. It comes with no benefits other than a well-deserved increased sense of self-worth.
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Thanks for the compliment guys, I love making the UNN updates, it gives me a good excuse to use all these cool futuristic and sci fi images. Fleet Doctrine Analysis As we all know, we got our butts kicked at Mars, our Samars proved good at killing Moskavas, but the Skory has demonstrated it's self to be a far better fighting vessel then anything we have in our arsenal right now, not to mention a technological edge in the military department. We're going to be soon launching into a crash research program to catch up with Fred. While this would appear to be a reactive measure, many of the technologies we'rep planing on researching are needed for any next gen military hard ware, such as sensors, and missile tech, as well as High Density armor. However, while we embark on this crash program, we mist keep in mind, we need a fleet doctrine by which to base our future design decisions. Several proposals have been floated around, and with the recent proposal of the Monitor, I feel we're nearing something that could work. Since we're the UN, we're not planing on conquering anyone. We also will soon be exploring jump points and settling worlds beyond the solar system. Given that we're not planning to execute major offensive operations against others, and we want to make sure we can defend our claims, I would like to propose the Strategic Defense Doctrine Under this doctrine, our focus will be on ships that have long range and good defense, specifically armor, in exchange for a slower speed. Since we're mainly planing on using our fleet to defend our stuff, we need something that has a long range and since speed makes our ships fragile, something you don't really want for defense ships, stronger armor will allow a better survivability. I understand there will some disagreement with this, some might say why not have all three, speed, range and defense? The problem is, this would require hulls so big that they will be out of our range of possibility for some time. It took almost ten years for the Versailles yard to get to 6000 tons. We sadly do not have the luxury of being able to have one catch all vessel that has everything we want. This doctrine takes into account our general desires which can be seen as follows: 1. We will want to be able to protect our stuff from the Federation 2. Almost all of said things we want to defend are static locations (planets, jump points, asteroids). 3. Since we're the UN, we're not planning on conquering anything, offensive operations aren't the main focus. Using this doctrine would entail focusing our capital ship production (at least for the immediate to mid term time being), on monitor type vessels, slower capital ships with long range heavy fire power capabilities. Our smaller ships (such as the Cape Town and Samar) will be our fast screening element capable of countering other fast small ships that might be used to try and counter our monitors, we well as to patrol our lanes while the monitors defend our locations in addition to being our assault element if we need to go on the offensive. While the speed issue might concern some, I would like to point out (as was indicated to me by Innocent Bystander) with such a great range, we would have the ability in the event offensive operations are needed, to force our opponents to engage us on our terms. A 75 million km engagement window gives us a breadth of breathing space in combat to allow us to dictate how the fight occurs. Jimmy4400nav fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Apr 8, 2013 |
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Jimmy4400nav posted:This doctrine takes into account our general desires which can be seen as follows: We literally just fought a war to try to take a planet away from the Federation and we built troopships before they did. Try again. Also warfare needs to be a mix of defensive and offensive action or you can't force a conclusion. The point is to work out what the needs of each are. Alchenar fucked around with this message at 22:16 on Apr 8, 2013 |
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Apr 8, 2013 22:01
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Alchenar has a point-even if we don't plan on any hostile expansion, the fact of the matter is that Fred will probably be too stubborn to surrender unless we have completely defeated them. To do that, we will need the ability to move forces to Saturn and Mars to be able to potentially enforce any demands we have for the Feds. Granted, this doctrine is a good starting point, but we need to attack as well as defend in a war. Also, are we still planning on quietly building up PDCs on Earth just in case Fred tries something?
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Alchenar posted:We literally just fought a war to try to take a planet away from the Federation and we built troopships before they did. Try again. First point, those troops ships weren't built for offensive operations, they were made to slow boat our engineers to Mars to explore the ruins first. When we build them we weren't planning any offensive operations first. Second point as for the war, we'll we were all present for the comedy of error that lead us to changing from crush the rebels to stealing the world. We were never in a position to do so in the first place and not all of the UN agreed to this, but that's a can of worms that has been opened and debated a dozen times over. Also, if you would double check the proposal, I listed several things. Specifically faster units would be built specifically for prosecuting offensives, such as Cape Towns and Samars. Granted these aren't the greatest designs, but since we seem to want more of a defense focus (I've been getting that from thread sentiment), I wanted our capital ship focus to be on monitors with the lighter elements being the versatile assault/scout/screening element. Dr. Snark posted:Alchenar has a point-even if we don't plan on any hostile expansion, the fact of the matter is that Fred will probably be too stubborn to surrender unless we have completely defeated them. To do that, we will need the ability to move forces to Saturn and Mars to be able to potentially enforce any demands we have for the Feds. The thing is, people are forgetting that while a monitor is slow, it has an insane amount of range. 75 million kilometers is twice the range and then some of the Skory. Even if Fred is faster, if they choose not to enter the engagement envelope, then we've already won. We can just park our ships above a Federation target and sit there since we can blast as ships trying to enter in. Again they are more geared towards defense, but the monitor is capable of offensive operations, if Fred wants to fight, it has to be on our terms at our range. As for the PDC,s some Dragon's Teeth will be coming on line eventually but they're low priority right now since our tech names shooting down Fred missiles difficult, so right now PDC's are only needed to blow up other PDC,s and I'm pretty sure that Fred's not going to pull anything near Earth for the moment.
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Earth: Low Earth Orbit, 29th May 2033, 4:50 UTC The two El Dorado-class gravitation survey vessels are dispatched to Callisto at 2500 kps. Even as they depart, workers at Vancouver Naval Yard are laying down the keels of two further El Dorados whose names have yet to be assigned. Earth: Low Earth Orbit, 29th May 2033, 12:57 UTC  PHALANX finally returns to Earth after an eventful deployment. Visayas and Panay are assigned slipways at the idle Valhalla Naval Yard. BuShips engineers estimate that Panay will take about seven weeks to repair, while Visayas will only require about four days to patch up her armor. The Surigao-class DEs of PHALANX take on new missile reloads and split up for future duties: Benguet and Quirono are given escort duty over the freighters carrying maintenance minerals to Callisto. Caloocan and Taguig are sent to rendezvous with 1st Cruiser Squadron. Caloocan will escort UNS Sofia back to Earth for refit to one of the new Berlin II variants, the Berlin II-M. This will necessitate a command swap, as Commodore Chadwick takes command of Prague and CAPT Aethernet commands Sofia. Earth: Low Earth Orbit, 29th May 2033, 22:00 UTC  Caloocan and Sofia return to Earth. While Sofia enters the UN shipyard complex, Caloocan immediately sets course back for Taguig and Prague. The Versailles Yardmaster estimates work on Sofia will be completed in mid-October. Earth: Extreme Earth Orbit, 30th May 2033, 2:00 UTC  Caloocan rejoins 1st Cruiser Squadron, which will remain on station in an extended Earth orbit, 20m km out. With this act, Task Group PHALANX is disbanded and Operation PHALANX comes to an official close. Mars: UNIN Field Office, 30th May 2033, 7:20 UTC  From: UNIN Intel Office, Mars Branch To: UNEC Re: Federation Movements Sirs, a group of Federation vessels from the Mars Fleet (1x Skory (Fed-CA 005) 2x Moskva 31 (Riyadh, Fed-CC 008)) has just broken orbit and is heading for Earth at 1500 kps. They should arrive in approximately 46 hours. Message ends Meanwhile, the Federation releases a statement to the press. Federation Statement posted:The Federation would like to take a moment to address the issue of negotiations with the Brotherhood of Free Mars faction. As required by the Odessa Accords, the Federation has opened a dialogue with the rebel forces on Mars. Spearheading our diplomatic effort is Administrator-in-Exile Yasmine Ogra, along with another official who is our actual face-to-face contact with the BFM leadership. For security purposes we cannot reveal the identity of this second official. TG MARATHON: Low Callisto Orbit, 30th May 2033, 15:10 UTC  Task Group MARATHON, consisting of the Samar II-class DEs Bohol and Romblon reach Callisto and settle into orbit. They will await the arrival of the two El Dorado-class survey vessels. Each Samar II will then be attached to an El Dorado and the two groups will begin the gravitational survey of Sol. UNS Taguig: Extreme Earth Orbit, 1st June 2033  CMDR Sky Shadowing takes a shuttle to Earth to attend a two-day symposium at the Advanced Leadership Academy. Earth: Low Earth Orbit, 2nd June 2033, 4:40 UTC  From: UNIN Intel Office To: UNEC Re: Federation Movements Sirs, the Skory that transited from Mars recently (Fed-CA 005) has entered the Federation shipyard complex. At the same time, a Skory 33 (Fed-CA 004) has left the complex and departed for Mars at 1600 kps, along with one of the Moskvas that escorted Fed-CA 005. The other, Riyadh, has entered the complex, presumably to repair the damage caused to her by Mitrata. Callisto, 2nd June 2033, 17:25 UTC   The El Dorado survey vessels arrive at Callisto. After an hour to reform and discuss deployment, the vessels head out to begin their gravitational surveys. Bohol will accompany El Dorado while Romblon escorts Klondike. Meanwhile, UNDOT issues preliminary contracts to begin removing installations from the UN's Mars colony as per the Odessa Accords. Destination contracts are not filed, so this serves more as a stock-taking formality than anything else. Earth, 3rd June 2033  Yard workers at Valhalla Naval Yard complete repair work on Visayas's armor belt. She then makes the brief transit to the Victoria Naval Yard to begin refit operations to the Samar II class. BuShips predicts that the refit should be complete by the end of June. Mars: UNIN Field Office, 4th June 2033, 0:11 UTC  From: UNIN Intel Office To: UNEC Re: Federation Movements Sirs, Fed-CA 004 (Skory 33-class) has settled into formation at the Federation Mars Fleet, while Fed-CA 002 (Skory-class) has joined the shuttling Moskva and is heading for Earth at 1600 kps. Our theory is that, given the massive success the Skory 33 saw against us during Operation PHALANX, they're hurrying to refit all their remaining cruisers to the new design. Earth: Low Earth Orbit, 4th June 2033, 19:41 UTC  From: UNIN Intel Office To: UNEC Re: Federation Movements Sirs, two Moskva 31s have just departed the Federation shipyards: Riyadh (whose damage must have been quite superficial to be repaired so quickly) and Fed-CC 009. They are making for Titan at 2000 kps, which would appear to be the new Federation cruising speed for Moskva 31s. Things seem to be returning to the pre-conflict state as far as force deployments. Message ends Elsewhere, CMDR Tolan, aboard UNS Caloocan, wins an informal fleet maneuver exercise held by the three ships of the diminished 1st Cruiser Squadron. Callisto, 4th June 2033, 21:31 UTC  The ships of the 2nd Cruiser Squadron's Inner Detachment finally reach Callisto, where they equalize their fuel levels and enter a holding orbit, waiting for the Outer Detachment which is still four days out. UNS Panner: Wodan, 5th June 23:46 UTC   UNS Panner finally arrives at the UN's most distant territorial holding, the Kuiper Belt Object Wodan. Panner will remain on station at Wodan to support the UNGS team surveying the body, as well as to give its crew a bit of shore leave in the marginally larger facilities available at the automated mining outpost. On Earth, CMDR Magrov, working with his counterparts in the Federation, establishes a new set of crisis protocols to ensure better communications during periods of potential conflict. From: UNIN Intel Office To: UNEC Re: Federation Movements Sirs, the Skory Fed-CA 002 and the Moskva 31 Fed-CC 008 have both idled their engines and entered the Federation shipyard complex. They loitered in orbit for some time, but it is believed to be an administrative issue, as it made no threatening moves and exhibited no non-standard behavior. Message ends Elsewhere, CAPT Sad King Billy and CMDR KSAF Staff Report spend part of their brief shore leave at Callisto running fleet engagement exercises using the data from Operation PHALANX. Finally, news reports from the Federation, citing anonymous officials, indicate that BFM and Federation leaders are close to reaching a settlement over the Mars question. Earth: Low Earth Orbit, 7th June 11:36 UTC  A brief celebration is held at the UN's primary orbital logistics facility as UNAS Lictor and UNAS Venti finally return home. Small craft begin shuttling the cooped-up troop formations back to their terrestrial staging areas. Lictor is then taken into the still-untooled Sydney Shipworks, where work will be done to repair the damage done by Riyadh in the early stages of the recent conflict. The yard foreman estimates the work will take about two weeks. Callisto, 8th June 11:36 UTC  The UN's two York II-class freighters arrive at Callisto, bearing a much-needed cargo of minerals intended to help maintain ships at the UNIN orbital maintenance facilities. Elsewhere, CMDR E_Motion takes a few days off from his command at Missile Complex Hammerfest to pick up a continuing education class at the Advanced Leadership Academy. Callisto, 8th June 21:56 UTC  2nd Cruiser Squadron's Outer Detachment arrives at Callisto and settles in alongside its sister formation. UNIN 1st Fleet HQ orders the two task groups to be merged back into the 2nd Cruiser Squadron and their fuel levels equalized. Following this, the 1st Fleet orders that several of the ships begin overhaul, now that the minerals to do so are available. 1st Fleet's standing orders are that no more than a third of a given ship class are to be undergoing shipyard operations at any given time. Given that there are two Berlins undergoing refit at Earth, neither of 2nd Cruiser Squadron's Berlins will undergo overhaul. The same is true for the Samars, since three out of nine of the class are in Earth's shipyards (Mindoro and Visayas undergoing refit to Samar II and Panay having her battle damage repaired). Of 2nd Cruiser Squadron's Surigaos, the three oldest ones at Callisto (Surigao, Ilocos, and Abra) are removed from the formation and ordered to begin overhaul. All three will be out of commission for at least six months. The rest of 2nd Cruiser Squadron is ordered to resume Task Force Training exercises. I need new orders for the York II freighters. Task Group ETAs as of 8th June 2033, 21:56 UTC
Each jump point in Sol takes 400 survey points to scan (the number of points required is based on the mass of the primary star in a system). Each El Dorado generates 1 survey point per hour (modified by commander bonus: 13% for Veazey, 15% for CMDR djw175), so these surveys are going to take some time: 307 hours (12.8 days) per point for Klondike and 266 hours (11.1 days) per point for El Dorado). Industry Earth  Tranquility  Mars  Callisto Shut down Earth Stockpile  Tranquility Stockpile  Minerals  Shipyards   Research  Contracts
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Even if we're pretty sure Fred isn't going to try anything anytime soon, I'd still feel much safer if we had more missiles anyway. Besides, that attitude shot us in the foot when the Mars crisis rolled around-let's learn from our mistakes and build those PDCs. Edit: Whoa, ninja update! It looks like there's nothing much going on, although it's nice to see that the Lictor and Venti are back home with their troops. Double Edit: vvv Alright, that's fine. I was just worried that we were starting to get complacent with our defenses on Earth. Dr. Snark fucked around with this message at 23:03 on Apr 8, 2013 |
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Dr. Snark posted:Even if we're pretty sure Fred isn't going to try anything anytime soon, I'd still feel much safer if we had more missiles anyway. Besides, that attitude shot us in the foot when the Mars crisis rolled around-let's learn from our mistakes and build those PDCs. Thing is our PDC's are pretty useless right now and we have a ton of projects that need finishing, I have ten Ghostbusters in queue right now, those will be more than enough to blow up Fred PDCs if we need to.
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FROM: The Desk of Lt General berryjon TO: Innocent Bystander RE: Deployment Well, that could have gone better. I would like to stay on Earth for a while sir, given sheer scale of the clusterfrak that has occurred. I'll let you know when the Intel boys have finished their debriefing and I officially report back for duty.
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Bgreman, according to my records, there should be over 12,000 tons of TNE minerals on our colony in Mars. How is that going to be transported to Earth? Does mass drivers works instantaneously, or will we need to assign freighters to haul all of that? About the CMCs, my previous assessment continues to be valid. 52 Europa if you want a lot of minerals in the short term, but it's going to be a hassle to move all those CMCs again when the mineral reserves are depleted, Callisto if you just want to forget about their existance. By the way, I don't think Bgreman ever clarified if CMCs can be out in asteroids. If it's not allowed, than Callisto is the obvious choice.
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edit: ^^^^ CMCs can go on any body that you can put a mine on UNCAO Brazil Post Staff Meeting Now that everyone has had a chance to breath again, we're proceeding with our plan to entice South America to the warm and welcoming fold. The first step will be our usual town halls to get a feeling of public sentiment. Start setting up some high-level meetings with heads of states, create some photo ops. See if we can get UN Intelligence to release Prof. Snark to sniff out Venezuela; they might be willing to flip on their own and buying them out of the Federation should be fairly easy. From: Councillor Added Space To: UNCAO Department of Skullduggery Re: Sahara Re-Greening Initiative How is my nefarious plan to create a land rush in the Sahara proceeding? Added Space fucked around with this message at 00:39 on Apr 9, 2013 |
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quote:...along with another official who is our actual face-to-face contact with the BFM leadership. For security purposes we cannot reveal the identity of this second official. I know who that is! Anyone else want to know?! FROM: Former Ambassador TildeATH TO: United Nations Council Members SUBJECT: My Triumphant Return It is with great joy that I can report my return out of enemy territory and back into the gentle embrace of these United Nations. I am here, on Earth, now, having ordered the villainous Federation to transport me back to our home planet after my failed attempts to barter for peace with the vile Kommodor Biswal. For many days, I was held on-board her Skory while she gloated to me about the many careful maneuvers that the Federation used to defeat us at Mars. On my return, I have been shocked to find that we not only were outmaneuvered politically, but militarily as well, and humiliated by these vile cowards. Even now, my weeping Brethren cousins beg for the United Nations to honor their alliance and save them. Knowing we cannot, they hope to flee Cruel Mars. Through my own great efforts, and despite much danger, I have brought two of these BFM loyalists out of the impending catastrophe. One of them is Soman's own right-hand man, Vasu. The other is Rao, the xenoarchaeologist that first presented the new Belnar technology to us. It is my hope that they can help to broker some kind of deal to secure the rest of these alien devices, or otherwise some of the men and materiel even now being handed away to looters and Russo-Tibetan-Hindu extremists. There is more, of course, which I will share as soon as I have had a chance to eat something other than low-gravity curry. I expect my new assignment to reflect the number of medals now festooning my custom dress uniform. Perhaps I could administer the Martian rump colony, given my affinity for the BFM and obvious reputation with the Federation war machine. Or Tranquility--I think I could manage that small outpost quite nicely. Now, if you'll excuse me, I apparently have several petabytes of email to catch up on, along with numerous news alerts from my custom "TildeATH + (Patriot || Rockstar || Savior)" Spoogle custom search.
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Added Space posted:See if we can get UN Intelligence to release Prof. Snark to sniff out Venezuela; they might be willing to flip on their own and buying them out of the Federation should be fairly easy. Well, I'd love to get on that, but... TildeATH posted:Through my own great efforts, and despite much danger, I have brought two of these BFM loyalists out of the impending catastrophe. One of them is Soman's own right-hand man, Vasu. The other is Rao, the xenoarchaeologist that first presented the new Belnar technology to us. It is my hope that they can help to broker some kind of deal to secure the rest of these alien devices, or otherwise some of the men and materiel even now being handed away to looters and Russo-Tibetan-Hindu extremists. I might be needed for a little longer on Mars once I get updated on this development. That being said, I'm sure you understand, Miss TildeATH, that since you were in enemy custody for an extended period of time, we will have to take any and all information coming from you with a grain of salt. If your friends know any information, I want them to tell me, not you. ...And councilor, I don't think a man of my...talents...would be useful in the political field. If it's really that much of an issue, send Jones over there instead-he could mingle with some high-class people and give you some updates. Dr. Snark fucked around with this message at 04:04 on Apr 9, 2013 |
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FROM: Former Ambassador TildeATH TO: Snark c/o Jones SUBJECT: You don't have the numbers Listen here, Jones, you horrible little functionary, if I ever catch you abusing your Send As Snark privileges again, I'll see to it you're artificially inseminating dairy stock on an asteroid research base quicker than you can say, "Magic Beans". I know Snark wouldn't so callously impugn my honor like that, Jones, so don't try to act innocent, either. I'll have you know the Council has already verbally reinstated me and promised me the administration of Mars (don't tell Arujel, the poor guy has been going through a lot, what with the divorce and the drinking and his dog running away). Not only that, but to toss around these baseless about "contamination" is to smear your own boss, who spent enough time off the reservation in the BFM legate to turn traitor in triplicate! No, Jones, this may be another volley in our private little war, but I shan't forget it. You'll pay, Jones. You continue to make very powerful enemies...
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Apr 9, 2013 04:44
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We need to move the Alien ECM module off Mars and back to Earth now that the shooting is over.
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Apr 9, 2013 04:52
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Dag, it has come to my attention that the reason we still have automines sitting on Venus is because McK is taking ones from Earth instead. Can we turn off civilian contracts for automines on Earth until the Venusian ones get shipped elsewhere? They do more waiting on Earth than on Venus.
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So, I just managed to conquer an NPR before noticing that you design missiles from the main colony screen. On the plus side, I started with a 40% 8 admin energy weapons scientist, which is probably why it was less painful than it would have otherwise been.  Edit: Also, the "energy weapons don't work through atmospheres" thing is pretty dumb. 
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Apr 9, 2013 05:56
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Much as I hate the idea of suggesting the diversion of resources from extrasolar colonization, the field where we currently have the advantage, I think we're going to need heavier investment in the military than just trying to reach parity since it looks like we're planning on shooting Fed freighters soon, after just peacing out... ... could we at least wait with piracy until we've reached parity? Readingaccount fucked around with this message at 17:18 on Apr 9, 2013 |
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Apr 9, 2013 07:08
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Readingaccount posted:Much as I hate the idea of suggesting the diversion of resources from extrasolar colonization, the field where we currently have the advantage, I think we're going to need heavier investment in the military than just trying to reach parity since it looks like we're planning on shooting Fed freighters soon, after just peacing out... That's what I've been suggesting as a compromise, wait for the build up to implement the pirate proposal, and more or less been my contingent for support. I think this is what we are planning on going with. Also, Bystander, I know we've had disagreement over this, but after learning more about civilian operations, I'm making this request formally to UDOT. Please cancel all contracts to allow our private corporations to begin a build up on Tranquility. I understand you want Callisto built up, but we are doing so in a horribly inefficient manner that has slowed our colonial growth on our worlds to a crawl. If we canceled all contracts and allowed our shipping industries to go about their bushiness, our Tranquility colony would be built up to 25 million (the max) in around ninety days. THREE MONTHS! Then our private firms would focus on building up Callisto, without us having to force them to take infrastructural deliveries. Plus this would allow our firms to grow larger without massive subsidies needed (though funneling some more money to McK and Yamamoto wouldn't hurt).
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General Antares and Jimmy4400nav you have a point, also I was under the impression that the Feds would move our Mars stuff but that is apparently not whats happening. However I am not in a hurry to move it, since as far as UNDOT is concerned it is low priority. I am willing to try stop using civilian contracts and we'll see what happens, we could use a new golden age in space to catch up, so I think it's a fine gamble. Okay so orders are as follows: Cancel all civilian contracts effective immediately We'll tell the world that is a measure to reduce bureaucracy and to allow a more dynamic growth of our civilian shipping sector. The York freighter group is to tend the needs of Callisto, that means moving minerals if needed and otherwise moving infrastructure from Earth Also unless UNIN protests there is no need for a escort, wish these things could move stuff from Mars, but I think they are really too small. CMCs are to go to Callisto and will be given to CONSOL To be honest I would rather just move these and forget about them, I hope this doesn't piss off anyone. Just continue to move them with the ex-Fed freighters Mars stuff will go to Callisto, unless the Federation helps move it, then it will go to Tranquility Right now we don't have anything to move the Facilities with, however we'll be building Aberdeens soon and once the ex-Fed freighters are done, they can help out as well. The ISS is to build an Aberdeen once retooling is complete Then grow it to 50k tons and build another slipway. I think that should cover everything.
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So it appears I am the new UNSA administrator. First order of buisness is to confirm Scribbleykins remains the UNSA deputy. Research Current research orders are to remain in place. -When Condor sensor research completes the 10 labs are to be shifted to High Density Duranium Armor. -When Ground unit strength research completes the 10 labs assigned to that are to be shifted to JD 2250-350 research. Further research orders are still under consideration but the current priority is to prepare sensors and missiles for the next generation of ships. Tech list: (In rough order of priority) Size 4 Missile Launcher Active Sensor 12 Em Detection 6 Next Gen sensor designs Missile Warhead Improvement (Implosion Pit Warhead) Fuel Efficiency Next Gen missile designs Designs for ships and missiles incorporating these technologies are hereby solicited. UNSA designers are developing in-house designs but outside input is always welcome. UNSA further requests high priority be given to the construction of more Laboratories Saros fucked around with this message at 09:13 on Apr 9, 2013 |
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Apr 9, 2013 08:57
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Can you build new labs? Should we?
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FROM: Commander Kal-L, formerly on UNMS Leeds, soon on UNS Boomtown TO: UNIN, UNRA RE: What's next? Sirs, while I'm quite pleased at my recent promotion, I'm not very sure about what my new ship's orders will be, now that there is no shooting all over voidspace. Will we be continuing to do surveys of celestial bodies that haven't been probed yet, or are we to keep idle, awating for when we can go to "greener pastures"? FROM: Commander Kal-L, formerly on UNMS Leeds, soon on UNS Boomtown TO: Commander Serpentis, soon on UNMS Leeds RE: A series of unfortunate events. Let me take this opportunity to say that I'm well aware of the official protocol that requires that all previous files in the hard drive from But it really was an accident that a whole pot of coffee fell on top of the terminal, erasing all of my Best of luck. P.S. I suggest you double check before using the private bathroom. Even more if you see Engineer Jackson nearby.
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Affi posted:Can you build new labs? Should we? bgreman posted:
 Yes we're building new labs.
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FROM: CMDR TLM3101, CO:ILB MC SNOWSHOVEL TO: UN Navy HQ RE: Home again, home again... Well... Here we are again. It's gratifying to see that not much has changed in my absence (though the new showers were a nice touch, along with actual, functioning hot water instead of the mess Ruprecht had to jury-rig last time). Everyone's unpacking, and my office and bunk is... pretty much like I left it. It'll be a little while before we're all settled in and properly watching the Fed again, but we'll have this place up to spec in no time. FROM: CMDR TLM3101, CO:ILB MC SNOWSHOVEL TO: All personnel RE: Home again, home again... Well folks, this is it. We're officially sent to Siberia.
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From: Innocent Bystander, Director of Defense To: Commander Kal-L, formerly on UNMS Leeds, soon on UNS Boomtown Re: What's Next? Pretty much just that. It'll be a year or two before we can have you zipping around exoplanets, and right now you're so far from the inner solar system I doubt the Federation could be bothered to chase you down even if they knew where you are. From: Innocent Bystander, Director of Defense To: Lt. Gen. Berryjon Re: Shore Leave/Debrief Granted, sorry about the mess. Enjoy your stay in the only breathable atmosphere of the system. From: Innocent Bystander, Director of Defense To: UNDOT, UNIEB Re: Cutting my Callisto supplies But okay. I'll see about setting up a Callisto supply dump to mirror TOMB (Heh, COMB), but that comes after the current rendezvous are completed and we have some more missiles produced on Earth.
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Kal-L posted:FROM: Commander Kal-L, formerly on UNMS Leeds, soon on UNS Boomtown FROM: CMDR Serpentis, CO ILB:MC Aviano TO: Commander Kal-L, CO UNS Leeds/Boomtown RE: RE: Come again? First and foremost, Kal, congratulations on the new ship. Good to see you 'veterans' are being put to good use (Snowshovel's got their old deep-fat fryer lover back, you know? Heaven knows what the boffins made out of that thing; I'm just glad one of my crew didn't try strapping it to a warhead or something back when the crisis was practically overheating). What makes you so sure I'm taking over your old boat though? Not heard anything on the grapevine about it (and I've practically had an ear stitched to the drat thing ever since shots got exchanged), though it would be a great change of scenery from the Führerbunker (and let's just say the Navy's not terribly popular with the populace here on Albion thanks to them nearly causing World War ... IV, I think?) Mind you, if I do... I'm not going to find anything left over from your tour that incriminates me by proxy, am I? I'm tired of Snark's people sniffing around the place ever since the fryer incident and the drat protesters' riot after the Mars debacle, I don't need them on my case about something that's actually genuinely a problem, let alone someone else's. P.S. Clearly, you've forgotten how whatever's on board the Leeds pales in comparison to the situation one finds with underground restrooms. I think we'll manage somehow. FROM: CMDR Serpentis, CO:ILB MC Aviano TO: CMDR TLM3101, CO:ILB MC Snowshovel RE: RE: Welcome back gift. Welcome back to the ILB Corps, ma'am. From one CMDR to another, I hope this package finds you well, and that the 'like new' deep-fat fryer within seems both comforting and familiar. Heaven knows it was to Aviano whilst we were stuck with it in a hazmat condition for two weeks (and during the not-war, you'll be overjoyed to note). I'm told the unidentified material caking it is still genuine. FROM: CMDR Serpentis, CO:ILB MC Aviano TO: ILB:MC Aviano Personnel All watches be prepared for any retaliation from Snowshovel, no matter how overblown and petty in nature. This is not a drill.
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Affi posted:Can you build new labs? Should we? We can, should, and are. Research gets exponentially more expensive, and we have SO many things to research. I'm inclined to suggest that ground force research can be reduced to five labs, given that it's no longer a pressing issue.
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Okay good, good, I'm really bad at reading those production tabs. Excel sheets usually just make me fall asleep So all these cool explanations BG has been writing about our research goals (the fluff) is that saved anywhere? Should we? I mean if I'm navigating the Wiki correctly I can't find it and it'd be cool if it had like a research tab where we list all our research and the ones that are discovered but not done and stuff. Along with his good fluff.
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Affi posted:Okay good, good, I'm really bad at reading those production tabs. Excel sheets usually just make me fall asleep Feel free to add it; it would be pretty neat to have.
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Affi posted:Okay good, good, I'm really bad at reading those production tabs. Excel sheets usually just make me fall asleep Ding! Right, now to address the doctrinal discussion. I'm actually fairly in favour of the monitor doctrine, here's how I picture it: The core of our fleet will be the aforementioned monitors, they will be accompanied by faster vessels such as the Samar/Surigaos and the Capetowns. These monitor squadrons will sit on strategic locations such as our colonies and important jump points. Any Federation cruisers will be spotted so far out we can significantly damage them even before they come into range, sending our Cape Towns to intercept and mop-up, as we estimate the Skory to have an engagement range equal to or only slightly larger than the Cape Town. Ideally we'll have knocked out all the active sensors or launchers and will be able to take them out with impunity. The Samar/Surigao group will take care of any Federation corvettes, as they have displayed they are more than capable of. As an added bonus, since we'll primarily be defending colonies and will have plenty of forward warning of incoming hostiles, we can have our monitors reload from those colonies during the engagement. It's not improbable that we'll get to empty our magazines not once but twice before the opposition can do anything in return. This also allows for several missile types specialised for various situations to be used without needing excessively large magazines. On the offense, the doctrine is less optimal but still works. We deploy our monitors as a sort of siege guns, moving them towards target (Likely a colony, jump point, or other effectively immobile object), scaring off or damaging the garrison, and moving in ourselves. If necessary we can then deploy ground troops either via escorted Lictors or the faster but smaller Ares transports. Because of the range advantage. The primary drawback of the doctrine is that interception of hostile fleets becomes exceedingly difficult unless we have significantly better intel (See also: PROJECT WALLSTREET). However, this is in my opinion outweighed by the primary advantage: Once their fleet has actually arrived at the target unintercepted it has to brave several hours of UN fire before they get in close enough to fire back. EDIT: For comparison: The range of the monitor is 70m km and a bit. The radius of the Mars cordon is 30m km. If we park this thing on the edge of that cordon, we can hit something on the other edge. Alternatively, on closest approach, we can hit Mars from Earth. That's what we mean with long range. Innocent_Bystander fucked around with this message at 13:16 on Apr 9, 2013 |
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Innocent_Bystander posted:
No, here's the primary drawback - it allows the Federation to concentrate their fleet against targets with impunity. It means that in order to win a war each monitor needs an accompanying fleet powerful enough to to defeat the entire Federation Navy. That's just not possible. Monitors are a great idea and I approve their construction, but ultimately fleet doctrine has to work around a fleet-in-being that can maintain contact with the Federation cruisers and either defeat them if they separate or keep pace with them and block their movement towards a target.
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