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You need industry to assemble PDC's anyway so its only worth shipping them to established colonies. Just build terraforming installations and send them to Venus with enough infrastructure to support the required population. Alternatively a 60K Ton freighter can fit two Terraforming modules and I find it's way less hassle to just build terraforming ships and park them in orbit. You should be able to load PDC components anyway from the task force orders screen so I dunno why its not working for you.
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Oh gods I just loaded up my game and my entire 3rd fleet with all my modern combat ships has somehow switched to NPR control. I think they are the precursors and they are implacably hostile, I have been fighting them for control of a system for the better part of a decade and I thought I had finally won. I'm about to lose my entire navy and Fleet colliers/tankers/Jumpships if there isn't some way of editing things so they return to their proper side. Also I think an archeological dig switched sides at the same time as well. Help! Saros fucked around with this message at 17:21 on Apr 26, 2012 |
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Apr 26, 2012 08:32
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I think everyone needs to take a step back and realise that in game terms our ships and missile designs range from mediocre to bad. Unless BGreman has been intentionally handicapping the Fed's designs they will have a significant advantage over us on a per-tonnage basis and the fact that they have more PDC's (Likely also meson equipped) and ships means they will win handily in a fight. Even if they are not missile equipped and we stand off and flush our magazines at them its very unlikely our ships carry enough missiles to destroy them outright and our ordnance resupply is on earth, right by their PDC network. Furthermore the Ghostbusters are not a missile defense network. They have a tracking speed of 5k kps which is fast enough to target ships but even our own missiles are over twice as fast and short range TN surface-surface missiles for PDC's will be a lot faster. TLDR: We are hosed. 
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Mar 12, 2013 10:27
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^^^ Its almost like we're a Bureaucracy, in space!
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Mar 12, 2013 10:50
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You guys need to tuck your tails firmly between your legs and run away.
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Mar 31, 2013 20:08
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There are skory estimates on the wiki. By the way here is the missile the Skory 33 is using. It only requires 1 more level of missile warhead (2k RP) and its HAS to have that otherwise its impossible to make a warhead 4 missile that goes that fast.code: With some slightly improved sensor tech it can probably employ them at a large portion of that distance too. Saros fucked around with this message at 11:04 on Apr 2, 2013 |
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Apr 2, 2013 11:01
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Stopgap class missile from IRC (Current tech, designed as a multirole for the DE's)code:Engines: 0.44 Fuel: 0.06 We cant match the Skory missile until we have better warhead tech and sensors to paint a target at 20mKm+. This is an upgraded missile using the improved warhead tech we don't have yet. code:Engines: 0.6 Fuel: 0.06 Saros fucked around with this message at 11:40 on Apr 2, 2013 |
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Apr 2, 2013 11:34
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You basically cant design effective anti-missile missiles at this tech level, we really need some sort of direct fire PD but mesons are terible at it and we haven't researched anything else. To be effective with AMM's you need a lot longer detection range, the tracking time bonus tech and time for multiple missile salvoes.
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Apr 2, 2013 12:09
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If nobody else is running for UNSA ill throw my hat into the ring. As a positive I have spent an truly ungodly amount of time playing Aurora and I have a policy of free candy for every child in science classes to make them love science and grow up to be scientists. Also I would totally accept a deputy position if that is available and merely hand out terrific advice to Scribbleykins. [edit] I will also demand our next capital ship be named the Belisarius. Saros fucked around with this message at 08:24 on Apr 4, 2013 |
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Apr 4, 2013 08:03
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VOTE SAROS FOR UNSA LESS OF THIS  MORE OF THIS  AND THIS  (There will also be serious consideration put towards development of the best gun ever) 
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Apr 6, 2013 00:17
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I support the space pirate initiative. Its cheap and entertaining!
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Apr 7, 2013 02:54
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Just a friendly reminder: A Vote for Saros is a vote for  , space piracy, proxy wars and the ZF-1.Vote Saros for UNSA.
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Apr 7, 2013 07:15
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If we were lucky an inner system jump point might end up close to an asteroid. As asteroids dont orbit we could slap down a garrison and a DSTS on the asteroid and later maybe even assemble some PDC there using engineers. Another reason why its important to ID the jump points before the feds. Anyone with questions is also welcome to wander by the irc.
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Apr 8, 2013 02:59
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This happens all the time. E. Wait voting finished 3 hours ago. Saros fucked around with this message at 04:07 on Apr 8, 2013 |
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Apr 8, 2013 04:01
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We are talking about a universe where several divisions worth of AFV and infantry arms flew themselves to mars without anybody noticing. Arms controls seem rather lacking at this point.
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Apr 8, 2013 05:01
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So it appears I am the new UNSA administrator. First order of buisness is to confirm Scribbleykins remains the UNSA deputy. Research Current research orders are to remain in place. -When Condor sensor research completes the 10 labs are to be shifted to High Density Duranium Armor. -When Ground unit strength research completes the 10 labs assigned to that are to be shifted to JD 2250-350 research. Further research orders are still under consideration but the current priority is to prepare sensors and missiles for the next generation of ships. Tech list: (In rough order of priority) Size 4 Missile Launcher Active Sensor 12 Em Detection 6 Next Gen sensor designs Missile Warhead Improvement (Implosion Pit Warhead) Fuel Efficiency Next Gen missile designs Designs for ships and missiles incorporating these technologies are hereby solicited. UNSA designers are developing in-house designs but outside input is always welcome. UNSA further requests high priority be given to the construction of more Laboratories Saros fucked around with this message at 09:13 on Apr 9, 2013 |
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Apr 9, 2013 08:57
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UNSA votes for option B. As for Ion engines, UNSA is aware of the advantages Ion Engines have over our current designs. However development of Ion Engines and the associated generators is extremely research intensive and without updated ship designs improved engines are unable to close the current capability gap between our navy and that of the Federation. Rest assured UNSA does consider Powerplant and Engine development a high priority even if current constraints restrict us from immediately beginning research.
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Apr 10, 2013 00:25
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Nobody told me there would be this much paperwork! I thought we were just going to do science and blow stuff up.
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Apr 10, 2013 10:02
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Someone please do something about assassinating that man and supporting the Mars insurgency.
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Apr 12, 2013 00:04
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Okay I will settle for merely an assassination the insurgency support can wait. Research Orders: -When Ground unit strength research completes 5 of the 10 labs assigned to that are to be shifted to JD 2250-350 research. -The other 5 labs are to be assigned to Eumenides to work on a Size 4 missile launcher design and once that is completed those 5 labs are to be assigned to sensor research under Scribbleykins. -When the Jumpdrive research is complete the 10 labs are to be assigned to Scribbleykins to research Active Sensor 12 and then EM Detection 6. (Giving 15 total labs once Eumenides is done with the missile launcher research.) BGreman can we please see a shot of all the asteroids (Not just those containing TNE elements) close to the newly discovered jump point and can you tell us how far the closest asteroid is to it. Saros fucked around with this message at 01:20 on Apr 12, 2013 |
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Apr 12, 2013 00:25
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Oops that wasn't meant to be Slaan. Fixed. As for Korbalev he is a nothing in the grand scheme of things, the shooting in the face is for being rude about it not his role in this debacle. Saros fucked around with this message at 01:24 on Apr 12, 2013 |
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Apr 12, 2013 01:20
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I am away for the next 5 days so in my absence Scribbleykins takes over my responsibilites as UNSA director until my return. Someone pick up that research lab and ship it back to earth please.
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Apr 13, 2013 02:56
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Research Orders: When Armor research completes 5 labs are to be assigned to Scribbleykins to complete his sensor research. Magicboots is to use the remaining 10 labs to research Warhead 3 and then improved fuel efficiency.
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Apr 19, 2013 03:08
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UNSA votes Yes to all facets of operation staple. Someone get me a missile or propulsion specialist PLEASE.
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Its only a couple of months till the research for improved sensors is done. However there is still some time before we can build the next generation of ships, monitor or otherwise. Currently under consideration is improved missile launchers/magazines, another level of sensor research before prototyping, further missile warhead and agility improvements, further armor research and ION ENGINES. However Ion engines is a LOT of research (16000 RP for engines + generators if I recall correctly). Furthermore the lack of propulsion specialists means with 30 labs under Slaan's control we would only generate 10440 RP per annum towards it. Therefore I submit that we should generate the designs for the next generation fleet after some further development when the shipyard capacity is available and then rush for Ion Engine tech with all available resources. Also someone bring me back that lab from Mars. UNSA recommends the extraction of Nidra Ganguly Saros fucked around with this message at 03:40 on Apr 24, 2013 |
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Apr 24, 2013 03:34
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Barrelfox is to continue with Scribbleykins orders. Once sensors 12 is complete he is to design the sensor/s needed for the Shrike, Raw_Beefs raider before continuing to EM 6. The designs (updated to use the new sensor tech) can be obtained from those in charge of that project.
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Apr 29, 2013 07:26
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UNSA requests the ECM device be turned over to our scientific teams for disassembly and research. Furthermore it is reccomended to cease production of current generation missiles as new missile technology is not far away.
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May 3, 2013 03:20
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As Scribbleykins appears to be available for research again please place him back in charge of the Uridium experiments. Furthermore for the last time will someone PLEASE ship me those research labs on Mars and hand over the ECM module. Alright guys its not long now until the sensor research is complete. After that the focus will be improved missiles. However we have still not finalised new ship designs and there is some uncertainty about where to take research after the current projects are completed. ---------------------------------------- FROM: Director UNSA TO: Dr. Truth Serum. SUBJECT: Purpose Congratulations on your successful immigration Doctor. However currently Deputy Director Scribbleykins is our head researcher in you particular area of expertise. However you have not been forgotten and there are likely some upcoming projects in which you will be able to participate. Regards Saros ----------------------------------------
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May 8, 2013 23:14
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We have nearly a million free workers on Mars. Can they be assigned to the Research Labs or are the labs turned off by default after recovery?
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May 9, 2013 00:46
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Jimmy4400nav posted:Next Research: Saros considering we just finished researching the next level of sensor tech and since Fred already has it, I need your permission to offer this too. Basically this tech will form a basis for a high end consumer electronics industry to build up on Pallas. Since again Fred has this tech, it will allow the colony to market it's products to both sides. Again, Fred already has the tech, so we're not really declassifying anything here. I don't see any certain evidence that the federation has the sensor tech in question. It also seems foolish to reveal our capabilities when we don't have to. Furthermore the civilian applications of the research we are performing are very limited as it is almost entirely focussed on detection of void ship TN signatures. UNSA does not approve the transfer of technology to the new polity.
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Okay I somehow skimmed over the benefits. I will allow the use of older techs as a negotiating tool assuming that the new faction wont just have them all already?
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May 20, 2013 11:59
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Scribbles I appreciate your desire to RP but can I pretty please have my best sensor researcher back in action sooner rather than later? Furthermore: Can whoever is currently in charge of the ECM device please hand it over to the UNSA for analysis. If nobody has a specific claim then UNSA is hereby taking charge of the device and would like it analysed and disassembled as soon as possible. With regards to the Cornucopia project. UNSA is disinterested in taking part but will allow the use of non cutting edge techs as bargaining chips. Saros fucked around with this message at 05:52 on May 29, 2013 |
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May 29, 2013 05:43
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UNSA will not release Gravitational survey sensors without some serious convincing. What are you thinking, why would we hand them off to anyone after sinking so much RP into jump point research to get ahead of the feds? All other items are approved although can we not hand over all our mines if its not necessary. Saros fucked around with this message at 04:35 on Jun 1, 2013 |
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Jun 1, 2013 04:32
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^^^ Like the Mars crisis it just kinda happened.
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UNSA votes to allow the transfer of Pallas, money and basic techs. No to allowing the transfer of TNE installations. The contentious tech was Grav survey tech but that was proposed on accident by someone who thought it was Geo Survey tech. Allowable: GeoSurvey sensors, Active Sensors 10, Beam fire control 10K, EM sensitivity 5.
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What you think it was an accident they got all the techs needed to make military grade fire controls and sensors but no actual weapons? (Prototypes do have a bad habit of falling off the back of a space-truck in the current administration.)
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Jun 3, 2013 05:43
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When new research labs are complete or shipped in from Mars please assign them to the warhead research project. Furthermore can the ECM be disassembled for scientific analysis.
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Research orders Once research on EM 6 is complete I want the full 15 labs assigned to Magicboots. The rest (and other as they are shipped in from mars) will be assigned to Slaan to work on improved fuel efficiency. UNSA recommends ceasing all missile production as the next generation of missiles is nearly here. No to allowing Fed freighters within the cordon and no to donating terraformers. As for the Belnar engines they appear to be useless unless they actually have hyperdrive tech to investigate. Scrap them (donate to museums etc.) Saros fucked around with this message at 13:20 on Jun 13, 2013 |
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Jun 13, 2013 13:17
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UNSA design team has developed an alternative monitor design.code:code:code:-Faster missiles, better to hit chance. -200 tons smaller, can begin manufacturing earlier when the shipyard is online. -Significantly less time required for researching the sensor prototypes. -Could add a third armor belt to be roughly the same size as the current Monitor design. Cons -Less range on missiles (can be adjusted later as missiles can be redesigned.) -Sensors are less fine grained, can only target a gunboat size target at 24 million K rather than full range. However this is still twice the range SWACS can see a target that small. -Slower Monitor speed. Artists conception of the new Belisarius Class Monitor. 
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^^^ That is essentially futureproofing for when missiles have ion engines.
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