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Chiwie: Oct 21, 2010; DROP YOUR COAT AND GRAB YOUR TOES, I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE THE WILD GOOSE GOES!!!!

Just slogged though the thread. Bloody awesome.

Requesting a position as a Intel officer when/should a position opens up.

# ¿ Nov 5, 2012 02:31

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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 16:56

Chiwie: Oct 21, 2010; DROP YOUR COAT AND GRAB YOUR TOES, I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE THE WILD GOOSE GOES!!!!

UNAI sounds like it fills a gap, having a organisation ready and willing to deal with bastard coated space bastards like Proen can only be a good thing.

Also the off the books skunk works esque ships sound awesome. Space U-2s, F-22s, predator drones etc darting around the solar system to uncover (and if needed) expose and foil the reds plans can only be a good thing. Having small, fast ships with large passive sensors would aid in keeping tabs on their fleet movements and figuring out their military/research doctrines.

Chiwie fucked around with this message at 22:07 on Nov 5, 2012

# ¿ Nov 5, 2012 22:02

Chiwie: Oct 21, 2010; DROP YOUR COAT AND GRAB YOUR TOES, I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE THE WILD GOOSE GOES!!!!

Ynkling posted:

There is some leeway in ordinance production for sensor/spy probes, however. There was some discussion around this in the past and there definitely exists a place for a surveillance probe that can be launched by a Berlin or Project VALKYRIE ship.

Would it be possible to build a SOSUS style net around Saturn and with time, other tactical locations around the Sol? It would be a huge boon for intel gathering and tracking dirty commie bastard fleet movements.

edit: With luck this will free up naval assets and reduce the workload for any possible scouting/skunk work style vessels. Also if WW3 breaks out we will hopefully have forewarning from the reds attempting to destroy or disable the space SOSUS net.

Chiwie fucked around with this message at 02:35 on Nov 6, 2012

# ¿ Nov 6, 2012 02:27

Chiwie: Oct 21, 2010; DROP YOUR COAT AND GRAB YOUR TOES, I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE THE WILD GOOSE GOES!!!!

Hostergaard posted:

FROM: Hostergaard, Commander of Missile complex B
TO: UNEC
Subject: UNAI

On the note of SOSUS; good idea, it would be perfect for this new agency. But we might also consider having just such a system around our own gas giant to make sure that the Feddies don't come snooping around.

Lastly; any suggestion for naming this project for a new agency?

I humbly suggest Project Hermes.

Proposed goals:

1. Establishment of United Nations Agency of Intelligence (UNAI)
2. Expansion and organisation of espionage teams under the newly created UNAI.
3. Creation of a SOSUS style sensor net around strategic locations.
4. Capability to deploy a smaller tactical SOSUS net when needed.
5. Creation or modification of a off the shelf design to create ship for UNAI use.

Tentative Project Hermes Sensor Net (HSN) requirements:

General intention:

Forms the core of tracking network that will provide vital intelligence on shipping and colonies in strategic locations. Creation of this network provides the UN with a far better intelligence picture than we currently have at a low on going cost. It also provides advanced warning of attacks should war break out. An aggressor will have to disable the Hermes Sensor Net or risk the UN gaining a huge advantage during the potential conflict.

During wartime, the HSN can be deployed along convoy routes or used to provide intelligence at key locations if stealthy deployed by Rapid Intelligence Ship. They can also form the heart of minefields.

Inspiration: SOSUS network

Requirements in descending order of need.

Able to be transported by a large amount of ships.
Powerful sensors, most likely leaning towards passive sensors for stealth reasons.
Automation and low maintenance needs.
small explosive to prevent tampering by outside sources.

Project Hermes Rapid Intelligence Ship (RIS) requirements:

General intention:

Provide UNAI with a swiss army knife ship to fit it's requirements. Ship has to be able to deploy and maintain the HSN, UNAI teams and take on off the book missions as required. The ship also has to be able to successfully tail ships of interest in order to gather vital intelligence.

During war the vessel will also function as a commerce raider. Mining key supply routes and conducting hit and fades.

Inspiration: Virginia Class Submarine w/ Advanced SEAL Delivery System

Requirements in descending order of need.

Capability to deploy and recover Hermes Sensor Net elements.
Mine laying capability
Able aid the deployment UNAI or other SF style operational teams in sensitive areas.
Powerful sensors and comms, most likely leaning towards passive sensors for stealth reasons.
Speed and endurance in order for the UNAI to be able to react to developing situations. The ship would need to be able to rapidly redeploy and then remain on station as required.
Capability for thermal signature reduction or other stealth improvements at a later date via refits.
Weaponry is more or less not needed. At most a small number of MBDA SSM-6A Hornets or a small, low powered mason canon for point defense/light harassment. Ship's primary defense will be redeploying away from threats and detecting them before they become a problem.
If MBDA SSM-6A Hornets are to be carried a version with fire and forget to facilitate hit and run attacks would add raiding and wet work operation capability.

edit: Expanding on what I already posted. Hope this is all ok.

Chiwie fucked around with this message at 18:06 on Nov 6, 2012

# ¿ Nov 6, 2012 13:32

Chiwie: Oct 21, 2010; DROP YOUR COAT AND GRAB YOUR TOES, I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE THE WILD GOOSE GOES!!!!

UNCAO: Added Space

UNFRAD: Ceebees

# ¿ Nov 9, 2012 01:32

Chiwie: Oct 21, 2010; DROP YOUR COAT AND GRAB YOUR TOES, I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE THE WILD GOOSE GOES!!!!

FROM: Chiwie, FHQ
TO: UNEC
RE: PROJECT EINHERJAR and Commercial Fleet Disparity

I think the reds have us beaten on quantity, might be an idea to focus on higher quality ships over sheer numbers.

Expanding the commercial tonnage of the fleet or providing more subsidies can only be a good thing for the long term.

# ¿ Nov 18, 2012 17:33

Chiwie: Oct 21, 2010; DROP YOUR COAT AND GRAB YOUR TOES, I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE THE WILD GOOSE GOES!!!!

FROM: Chiwie, FHQ
TO: Innocent Bystander, Director of Defence
RE: EINHERJAR , HURRICANE

FHQ Intel humbly suggests that EINHERJAR , HURRICANE have the capacity to be fitted or a sub variant be possible for intelligence gathering roles.

# ¿ Nov 20, 2012 13:21

Chiwie: Oct 21, 2010; DROP YOUR COAT AND GRAB YOUR TOES, I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE THE WILD GOOSE GOES!!!!

Is it possible to encourage another megacorp to start producing large scale commercial shipping? At least that way we can have an alternative to go to if McK screws up on this scale again. Also forces them to bid against a competitor.

# ¿ Nov 21, 2012 13:46

Chiwie: Oct 21, 2010; DROP YOUR COAT AND GRAB YOUR TOES, I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE THE WILD GOOSE GOES!!!!

Would it be possible to claim or establish a foothold on the jump points and then sell them/force the reds to pay a toll to move though them?

# ¿ Nov 24, 2012 14:38

Chiwie: Oct 21, 2010; DROP YOUR COAT AND GRAB YOUR TOES, I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE THE WILD GOOSE GOES!!!!

I for one hope we redouble our space jingoistic efforts. Can't let the reds get ahead.

# ¿ Nov 28, 2012 07:13

Chiwie: Oct 21, 2010; DROP YOUR COAT AND GRAB YOUR TOES, I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE THE WILD GOOSE GOES!!!!

MagicBoots posted:

I agree. Our first extrasolar colony will need a strong, independent leader who is dedicated to his peoples well being and freedoms!

Fleet intel would like to suggest that keeping all the batshit crazy on one planet can only be a good thing. It allows us to focus our intel efforts in one place and if we play it right, gives us a massive source of revenue via the best reality tv show of all time.

Also being able to threaten the Feds with "Don't make us unleash the people of planet XYZ." would be awesome.

# ¿ Dec 1, 2012 17:04

Chiwie: Oct 21, 2010; DROP YOUR COAT AND GRAB YOUR TOES, I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE THE WILD GOOSE GOES!!!!

From: FHQ Intel
To: Khan Jefe El Presidente Del Revolucione al Jihadi TildeATH "Tildo" Kabilla il Jong

Re: Colonial Governorship

To our future installed ~~despot~~ fearless leader of the oppressed.

Option three has the backing of your new friends over at UN Fleet Intel. We can supply all the medals you need.

# ¿ Dec 2, 2012 12:13

Chiwie: Oct 21, 2010; DROP YOUR COAT AND GRAB YOUR TOES, I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE THE WILD GOOSE GOES!!!!

Hostergaard posted:

From: CMDR Hostergaard CO of UNS Romblon (DE-17, Samar-class)
To: UNEC
Re: Don't you just love the fresh smell of a new destroyer?

I believe it to be paramount that we do not let Freddy learn about our recent jump advances while we know about theirs. As such I think the first stage should be to find any jump points in our system and tag them with spy drones, so we know if any feds comes snooping around.

From: Fleet HQ - Intel
To: CMDR Hostergaard CO of UNS Romblon (DE-17, Samar-class)

Re: Re: Don't you just love the fresh smell of a new destroyer?

We kindly recommend Project HERMES for your consideration.

# ¿ Dec 8, 2012 12:33

Chiwie: Oct 21, 2010; DROP YOUR COAT AND GRAB YOUR TOES, I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE THE WILD GOOSE GOES!!!!

Bgreman that post is awesome

Triggerhappypilot posted:

If we're developing a new-long range sensor, is there any niche for a cheap, high-speed patrol vessel? If we're behind the federation in terms of light craft, we can at least make up the difference in sensor range and quick intercept.

I came up with a design brief for a scout/intel vessel in Project HERMES.

# ¿ Dec 20, 2012 16:31

Chiwie: Oct 21, 2010; DROP YOUR COAT AND GRAB YOUR TOES, I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE THE WILD GOOSE GOES!!!!

To: Councillor Added Space
From: UN FLEET HQ - Intel officer Chiwie
Subject: n/a

That is some seriously scary stuff. Low and behold the man that crosses you.

Did the guy have a family on earth? You could work that in for added... Incentive...

# ¿ Jan 2, 2013 16:21

Chiwie: Oct 21, 2010; DROP YOUR COAT AND GRAB YOUR TOES, I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE THE WILD GOOSE GOES!!!!

Added Space posted:

To: Officer Chiwie, UN Intelligence
BCC: Lars Proen
Re: Interrogation Technique

I employed a standard interrogation technique - make the prisoner think his information is worthless and his people have abandoned him. By happy coincidence, this is true in this case.

The ghost doesn't strike me as a man with a deep affection for family, and in any case he was a Russian national so any family he has is effectively beyond our reach. Also, be happy you don't work for me since I would fire you for that suggestion. Note that I have sent a copy to your superiors, who can do what they see fit with you.

To: Councillor Added Space
BCC: Lars Proen
Re: Interrogation Technique

If the Intel service isn't able to suggest morally gray actions, exactly who will? People like Proen and his ilk lost their rights to having us playing by the book. As for being within our reach I wasn't necessary suggesting we extract them.

# ¿ Jan 4, 2013 14:44

Chiwie: Oct 21, 2010; DROP YOUR COAT AND GRAB YOUR TOES, I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE THE WILD GOOSE GOES!!!!

From UNIN Fleet HQ (Intel)

Proen has cooperated fully. Option A has gotta be the way to go.

Edit: Is there anyway we can help the Free Mars group? If we can get them on side they might be a valuable ally against Fed interests on the red planet. Proen might be a valuable tool in this.

# ¿ Jan 28, 2013 23:56

Chiwie: Oct 21, 2010; DROP YOUR COAT AND GRAB YOUR TOES, I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE THE WILD GOOSE GOES!!!!

To: All UN personnel
From: UNIN Intel

Looking back on it, whoever sent both our troop transports packed full of our best troops unescorted needs to be shot.

# ¿ Mar 9, 2013 06:55

Chiwie: Oct 21, 2010; DROP YOUR COAT AND GRAB YOUR TOES, I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE THE WILD GOOSE GOES!!!!

From: UN Fleet HQ INTEL DESK
To: All

I suggest a new policy. All UN fleet transports are to be escorted at all times. The fact that we are allowing a vital strategic asset like the Lictors to be man handled like this is unacceptable.

Hell a new class of ship built to escort such ships might be a idea after things stabilize.

# ¿ Mar 12, 2013 08:50

Chiwie: Oct 21, 2010; DROP YOUR COAT AND GRAB YOUR TOES, I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE THE WILD GOOSE GOES!!!!

OtherworldlyInvader posted:

Frankly I think our problems here run deeper than not having the transports escorted. If we have a ship following them around, Fred sends more. The problem is we still haven't fully caught up to the Federation in naval strength, and yet we decided to ally against them with a nation that has no navy or ability to project ground forces.

At least we would have the ability to make an attempt to defend ourselves or screen the lictors long enough to make an escape. We have pretty much handed them plus the MI troops on board to the feds on a platter.

# ¿ Mar 12, 2013 09:38

Chiwie: Oct 21, 2010; DROP YOUR COAT AND GRAB YOUR TOES, I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE THE WILD GOOSE GOES!!!!

I know where you guys are coming from. That said we need to learn from this.

Lesson 1: Don't leave our troop transports unescorted.

# ¿ Mar 12, 2013 10:57

Chiwie: Oct 21, 2010; DROP YOUR COAT AND GRAB YOUR TOES, I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE THE WILD GOOSE GOES!!!!

berryjon posted:

We still can't win a Ground War with the Federation as they have too many people to pacify.

You can't pacify the dead.

# ¿ Mar 15, 2013 00:17

Chiwie: Oct 21, 2010; DROP YOUR COAT AND GRAB YOUR TOES, I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE THE WILD GOOSE GOES!!!!

To: All UN fleet commanders/council members
From: UNIN Fleet HQ, Intel

Well the fed speech clearly outlines what many of us thought/feared they will do. They are going to bully us with their navy and they know we won't lift a finger to do anything about it.

With the higher ups permission I would like to explore asymmetric attack options. If we can't go after them directly we ca... sorry, we need to punish them for taking our men hostage. We can not take this lying down and if we can't risk a open brawl we need to examine other options.

# ¿ Mar 16, 2013 01:25

Chiwie: Oct 21, 2010; DROP YOUR COAT AND GRAB YOUR TOES, I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE THE WILD GOOSE GOES!!!!

General Antares posted:

Its less about actually destroying the home world than making sure that Federation doesn't think it can take the home world with no consequences. As I've stated before the people running the Federation have shown themselves to be dangerously irrational and as such we need a greater threat of force than parity.

^A thousand times this. Given how the Feds are acting we need MAD just to keep them from pulling crap like they currently are.

# ¿ Mar 16, 2013 01:32

Chiwie: Oct 21, 2010; DROP YOUR COAT AND GRAB YOUR TOES, I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE THE WILD GOOSE GOES!!!!

I just love that people like Coolguye keep advocating the media option without making plans for the worst case scenario. On that note saying you are taking notes on who is advocating alternative options to 'just roll over and take it' is several shades of retarded.

The Fed's are clearly not playing by the same code of ethics that we go by. We need to adjust to that or we are going to be played like a fiddle for the foreseeable future.

Therefore we need to explore other options to level the playing field. If that involves making them think that we are mad enough to let the Sword of Damocles hanging over both sides head's to fall then so be it.

EclecticTastes is dead on. We need a skunkworks style production facility to give us that X factor. It could just be a low rate production of some exotic test beds that we can't mass produce at one of the current shipyards. Occasionally leak one of the designs doing something unexpected for one of our ships/fleet doctrine. Leak burly shot of it being tested. Let the media speculate on what it can/can't do.

Let them worry about the boogie man UN black ops ships that may or may not exist lurking under the bed. It might give us the edge in negotiation that dispute the fed's current void advantage that we have something that will cause enough pain for them to think twice before pulling a stunt like the attack on the lictor.

On that note a intel sensor network would be really handy right now. Project Hermes would of covered both of the above problems quite nicely.

# ¿ Mar 16, 2013 12:44

Chiwie: Oct 21, 2010; DROP YOUR COAT AND GRAB YOUR TOES, I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE THE WILD GOOSE GOES!!!!

Coolguye posted:

You're a goddamn idiot. You realize that a shooting war is completely unwinnable by either side, right?

"God drat fed's are shooting at us and have taken thousands of our best troops hostage. I better cook up a nasty press release. That will teach them!" - You.

If the Fed's think our military is toothless then you are giving them a free hand to do what ever they drat well want.

Yes, I know its unwinnable. That's the entire point of MAD. However right now they believe that we will not pull the trigger and that is letting the Fed run amuck.

In other words I might be a god drat idiot, but you sir are a short sighted imbecile. Speaking of which if you read my post you might of saw this.

Chiwie posted:

Therefore we need to explore other options to level the playing field. If that involves making them think that we are mad enough to let the Sword of Damocles hanging over both sides head's to fall then so be it.

We need to let them know that bullying our troops will not be tolerated and will be met in kind. I'm not advocating all out war. I'm advocating that we show that we have a strong enough hand to back up our media moves.

The best analogy I could use is this: we need to stop being a roaring toothless tiger and show them that we have teeth and are willing to bite.

Innocent_Bystander posted:

Re: HERMES
No, HERMES wouldn't have helped us much right now. It'd have cost us vital shipyard time, meaning we'd have a smaller fleet now, plus the small range of each individual sensor would mean have had to spend a disproportionate amount of resources moving everything into place. What we do have is a passive sensor on Earth good enough to see Fred on Mars where our freighters in the area can't. Unless Fred is excessively paranoid, they have no idea we have that capability, and unlike HERMES active sensors they can't see the extent of our sensor range. Discussing the pros and cons of expanding that further with Jimmy is on my to-do list.

Fair enough.

Innocent_Bystander posted:

Re: Keeping the peace
Fred does not care for international laws because we are the only entity enforcing them and they believe they have the upper hand over us. We'll need to convince them otherwise before those start applying again. The media angle may help stir up some trouble, but it won't get us out of this mess, hence Red Queen.

A thousand times this.

# ¿ Mar 16, 2013 17:38

Chiwie: Oct 21, 2010; DROP YOUR COAT AND GRAB YOUR TOES, I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE THE WILD GOOSE GOES!!!!

Coolguye posted:

If we want to lapse into baseless paraphrasing, I can do that too.

"THE ONLY WAY TO SHOW OUR MILITARY MIGHT IS TO THREATEN TO MURDER BILLIONS OF INNOCENT CIVILIANS" - You.

You're done speaking, because clearly you ran out of real plans and things to say before you even opened your mouth.

Better go and look up more international laws chief. The Fed will totally respect them. Just like they respected the ToM :allears:

As for military options we could blockade Saturn until they release our ships and pay for the repairs. That will show military muscle and only murder a few thousand civilians at the most! Success!

# ¿ Mar 16, 2013 18:05

Chiwie: Oct 21, 2010; DROP YOUR COAT AND GRAB YOUR TOES, I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE THE WILD GOOSE GOES!!!!

He still needs a trading partner. I think as long as we scratch his back he will scratch ours.

# ¿ Mar 17, 2013 23:38

Chiwie: Oct 21, 2010; DROP YOUR COAT AND GRAB YOUR TOES, I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE THE WILD GOOSE GOES!!!!

If we disable the Moskva, give it to the BFM in exchange for them allowing us to exploit the technology and borrow it for dissimilar training in fleet exercises.

# ¿ Mar 18, 2013 10:30

Chiwie: Oct 21, 2010; DROP YOUR COAT AND GRAB YOUR TOES, I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE THE WILD GOOSE GOES!!!!

That Berlin blueprint is awesome!

# ¿ Mar 23, 2013 03:56

Chiwie: Oct 21, 2010; DROP YOUR COAT AND GRAB YOUR TOES, I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE THE WILD GOOSE GOES!!!!

Why not just keep it short? Let the Feds know that capturing our troops is a step to far.

# ¿ Mar 25, 2013 09:57

Chiwie: Oct 21, 2010; DROP YOUR COAT AND GRAB YOUR TOES, I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE THE WILD GOOSE GOES!!!!

Alchenar posted:

e: at a bare minimum for funsies you can demand the right to inspect them first. Use the instructions that the Fed corvette gave to the troop transports to drive the point home.

Please do this line for line.

# ¿ Mar 26, 2013 13:41

Chiwie: Oct 21, 2010; DROP YOUR COAT AND GRAB YOUR TOES, I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE THE WILD GOOSE GOES!!!!

Wait till we hit effective firing range, broadcast what they sent to the lictors.

# ¿ Mar 26, 2013 14:41

Chiwie: Oct 21, 2010; DROP YOUR COAT AND GRAB YOUR TOES, I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE THE WILD GOOSE GOES!!!!

Someone get teams aboard the disabled vessels. Think of the intel bounty!

# ¿ Mar 27, 2013 09:06

Chiwie: Oct 21, 2010; DROP YOUR COAT AND GRAB YOUR TOES, I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE THE WILD GOOSE GOES!!!!

We need to get space Hollywood in on our glorious victory over the fed as soon as possible.

# ¿ Mar 29, 2013 12:34

Chiwie: Oct 21, 2010; DROP YOUR COAT AND GRAB YOUR TOES, I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE THE WILD GOOSE GOES!!!!

Jesus christ, we had one bad engagement and you all want to throw it in.

Strategize, think outside the box you wet blankets! We still have the rest of the fleet. We can put considerable pressure on the fed.

Also leaving the BFM out to dry is a horrible, horrible thing to do.

# ¿ Mar 31, 2013 04:52

Chiwie: Oct 21, 2010; DROP YOUR COAT AND GRAB YOUR TOES, I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE THE WILD GOOSE GOES!!!!

Added Space posted:

They have five Skorys. Three are sufficient to destroy our entire fleet before they get into range. If you have any clever suggestions, name them.

Attack things away from the Skorys? Destroy anything Fed owned that crosses the ships path? Resort to piracy?

# ¿ Mar 31, 2013 04:59

Chiwie: Oct 21, 2010; DROP YOUR COAT AND GRAB YOUR TOES, I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE THE WILD GOOSE GOES!!!!

Can we slip BFM MI Tech before we agree to peace. At least give them something to fight with!

# ¿ Apr 2, 2013 05:05

Chiwie: Oct 21, 2010; DROP YOUR COAT AND GRAB YOUR TOES, I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE THE WILD GOOSE GOES!!!!

Coolguye posted:

Oh yes, and because I am 6 years old and can't resist gloating on this front:

Chiwie posted:
I just love that people like Coolguye keep advocating the media option without making plans for the worst case scenario. On that note saying you are taking notes on who is advocating alternative options to 'just roll over and take it' is several shades of retarded.

How'd that hawkishness work out for you?

Pretty drat well really. Better than the "lol, lets do nothing" result.

We might of not obtained the victory that we wanted, but we did get our troops and transports back and we found out a ton of information about the fed's navy while revealing little of our own. The only thing I'm personally annoyed about is the lack of things we can do to support the BFM at this point of time.

# ¿ Apr 4, 2013 11:32

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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 16:56

Chiwie: Oct 21, 2010; DROP YOUR COAT AND GRAB YOUR TOES, I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE THE WILD GOOSE GOES!!!!

Raw Beef's idea and arming the BFM is exactly what we should be doing. The idea of letting a few of our weapon shipments to the Mars garrison be knocked off is brilliant as well.

# ¿ Apr 7, 2013 02:26

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