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Hey, I've just caught up to the thread and it's been a lot of fun so far. Whenever you have time, I'd love to be written in as a Naval Officer.
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Alchenar posted:On the basis of the discussion on this page I would like to defect. True facts. My Russian and Chinese are nonexistent, but I'm willing to labor long hours in the salt mines for low pay if it keeps these UN maniacs from choking us all to death with their horrible machines.
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Jul 22, 2013 12:40
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Affi posted:Let's not be pseudo starfleet federation. We should definitely involve ourselves with any civilisation that isn't outright hostile (those we should avoid if possible (if they are pre TN) or contain or destroy if possible. I don't know if we even need a sweeping policy to speak of w/r/t alien races, we have enough work on our hands just dealing with our fellow humans.
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Again, let's not set a xenos policy in stone until we actually meet some xenos. Although I'd like to come out against gassing them as a first policy, they might wind up being friendly (and possibly delicious) so killing them out of hand seems premature. Edit: For inspiration. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=291axBL4l_w
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Kommando posted:I think this means we're the bad guys. We're the good guys and we'll always be the good guys, never let anyone tell you different.
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Jul 24, 2013 03:50
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Dr. Snark posted:Hmm...the design is an interesting concept, though unfortunately we really don't have a carrier design to support them. That being said, it'd be a waste to throw away such an interesting design. Would it be possible for us to ship a few of these to Callisto? They'd make an excellent rapid-response force, and it would allow us to free up a couple of our larger ships in that area. There was some talk earlier of eventually designing a carrier-type ship. While it might be premature to talk about designing and building ships in the 100k-ton range, it wouldn't be a bad idea for us to decide which direction we want to eventually head.
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Jul 24, 2013 08:35
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Guys, we have to look into this, whatever is happening out there could be very important. Have a military captain in the area receive a "garbled transmission" that sounded like a plea for immediate assistance and so he overrode the orders of his bosses on Earth because as the on-scene commander he knew things that they didn't. We can stick our noses in as deep as we want, and still have plausible deniability for whatever consequences come out of it.
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Jul 25, 2013 16:41
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Coolguye posted:What do you propose it could be that's so important? I'm not saying it can't be, but I am pretty tired of us sticking our fingers into every knothole in the fence and pretending like it's a huge surprise when they keep coming back bloody. The most important thing I can figure it would be is a clandestine Mars artifact transfer, and our data on the artifacts that have come out of the Belnar ruins is that they are strictly 'nice to haves'. Even when we get a cool toy coming out of them, disassembling them for RP gives a frankly disappointing contribution to the overall project cost. I'm interested because we're not just playing Aurora, we're playing the story that bgreman's trying to tell us. Last time we pulled on one of these threads, we got a terrorist who turned out to be a turncoat and it led to a fun story about Mars and our first real space combat. This could lead somewhere similar, and for that reason alone it's worth checking out. I'm also a meddler by nature, so not meddling would be really maddening. But as long as there's a plan in place to check this out in a timely manner, I'm happy with whatever might come out of it.
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TildeATH posted:Because the UN is crazy. I hope you can get it running. I've been experimenting for the last day or so, and although the system is pretty wonky and arcane the ship design is some of the best sci-fi nerd porn that I've ever seen.
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Jul 27, 2013 20:08
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TildeATH posted:PS: What the hell kind of fruits grow on a bear ranch? Let's just say that the bear cloning experiments have gotten... a little off track. 
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Raw_Beef posted:DONT SHOOT Going to chime in with how much I enjoyed this.
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Aug 7, 2013 05:00
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Probably want to save the press release for when the jumpship gets back, it'll give us evidence to hand out and allow us to cover up any failure.
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Aug 16, 2013 06:25
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Bastard Fedrats are trying to get the jump on our Jump.
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Sad King Billy posted:Space is a big place and has room for everyone. This is precisely the wrong attitude. Aside from a few outposts, all of humanity and all of our military/industrial/research infrastructure is located in precisely one place: Earth. And it will remain that way for the forseeable future. This makes even marginally habitable real estate a single jump away from Earth an incalculably valuable resource. If the Federation surveys and colonizes those jump points before we do, they'll have an insurmountable advantage over us. Frankly, if that happens all of us might as well start learning Russian.
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TildeATH posted:I believe it was "unconditional surrender to the FDC". The Free World will never surrender to
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TildeATH posted:I hope we get aliens. Sexy aliens.
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Kal-L posted:
 : Kiff! Take a message, or a memo. Never mind, take both and then throw one away. : Yes sir!: Kiff, the doctor just informed me that our chances of finding aliens on the other side of the jump... thingie are astronomical.: Yes, sir. He thought it was so unlikely that we shouldn't be worried ab...: That's exactly where you're wrong mister!: Sir?: Astronomical refers to the universe, and the universe is what Kiff?: Vast and infinite, sir?: Exactly right, Kroaker. Our chances of meeting aliens are both vast and infinite. There could be a whole universe on the other side of the jump... hole that's nothing but aliens. Possibly sexy, sexy aliens.: Sir, even if that's true, we won't know until we get there.: What kind of military attitude is that, sold...seam...space-guy? We must be thoroughly prepared for anything we might find over there. Our terrible missiles will more than protect us from any Slime-men or Mutant Cabbage-headed aggressors, but what happens if we run into a planet of alien sex goddesses? Are the men at all prepared for thousands of bosoms heaving under distant alien suns? Suns which haven't seen a real man in an... astronomically long time?: There are only a dozen men on this ship. And half of those men are women!: Spare me your excuses, Kiff. Draw a bath and break my best pair of underwear out of storage. And prepare the men for the possibility of a sexual vista so vast and infinite that it may challenge their very concept of a "swingin' time".: *sigh* Yes, sir.: And Kiff? Don't spare the loofah this time. I want a very, very thorough scrub.
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: Doc, could it be...?
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I think we should ping the area, and if the Fedrat ship is alone we say, "Thanks for the warning" and transit to the jump point and jump as planned. If they open fire, we should retreat. As others have pointed out, we have no red lines and can't win a shooting war. We should only consider war with the Federation as a last-last resort.
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It might be that they're lying, but it might not. All they really had to do to have a jump-capable ship was to bolt one of the Belnar drives into something with engines and a power plant that could handle it, and they've had those three drives for how long now? And who's to say that they didn't beat us to developing the technology and just stuck it in the frame of a jump ship that looked like every other ship they've been launching?
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There's a chance that they've made jumps in the past and have been uncharacteristically quiet about it, but there's an even better chance that they're lying. Jump. They can either kill an unarmed group of scientists and journalists in front of the eyes of the entire world, or they'll let us by.
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Volmarias posted:TO: FBay listing for a vintage 1993 Toyota Corolla B-E.S-U-R-E.T-O.D-R-I-N-K.Y-O-U-R.O-V-A-L-T-I-N-E.
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Halt the ships. Await FEAN ships returning from their jump points. We were beaten... again.
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Are we seriously planning to assassinate Fed scientists now?
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Innocent_Bystander posted:Yep. It's a point of strength on their side and we have means to do something about it. We'll obviously take sensible precautions around our own scientists if and before we actually go through with it. I think it's a bad idea. I think we should throw all of our intelligence resources into finding out what the Feds have planned for extra-solar expansion and what they find out there. Edit: Or just going full-China and stealing any of their tech that we can. Once you start killing people, things get out of hand very quickly. Zeroisanumber fucked around with this message at 20:43 on Aug 23, 2013 |
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Dr. Snark posted:Edit: Although I do like the idea of organizing a defection program of some kind. I think that should be our first effort, before we start resorting to snipers and cyanide. I hate to say it, but you should probably get TildeATH and Cornucopia in on that idea. They can get us introductions, relay messages, provide the best places on Earth to disappear people. And while we can offer money, advanced facilities, and freedom, she can offer them a thrice-yearly vacation to Planet Blowjob. Advanced resources and technology are something the Cornucopia is going to be getting hungrier and hungrier for as time goes on, I think we can forge a very mutually beneficial arrangement along those lines.
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Saros posted:I have a proposal to present to the UNEC. TildeaTH has kindly shared with me dossiers on her leading researchers. Amongst them is a remarkable individual with a 30% Construction/Production bonus and a 25 Lab capacity. Well, they've got the skills, but they'd also be a spy. So we'd kind of have to assume that whatever this person researches for us would also be researched for Cornucopia. That being the case, why don't we just formalize a research-sharing agreement between our two governments and take the whole spying thing out of the equation? Tell TildeaTH that if she loans us the researcher for no cost, we'll share whatever useful tech comes out of the lab. Make it a year contract, renewable at our discretion. We get what we want, she gets what she wants, and Cornucopia takes a halting step closer to our camp. That said, this researcher should be hired regardless of how we decide to do it. It'd be nice for Dr. Slann to have a colleague at his level. Edit: Looks like I'm going to have to start RPing an rear end in a top hat. Name: Zeroisanumber Traits: Inflexible and Dogmatic, Authoritarian, Vain Zeroisanumber fucked around with this message at 03:27 on Aug 24, 2013 |
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DatonKallandor posted:There is no logical reason for Cornucopia not to sell anything the UN gives them to the Federation and a whole bunch to do it. There's nothing to gain from "loyalty" and everything to gain from selling everything to everybody. Unless you're claiming that priority numero uno of Cornucopia is something other than "Cornucopia" - which I would find extremely hard to believe. Sure, Cornucopia can do that if they want to lose a friend and gain an enemy. But they're a small power that relies on deals with the Feds and the UN in order to keep independent and operating. If they piss off one they're eventually, inevitably, going to end up as a vassal state of the other. They're probably not that stupid, and if they are that stupid I'd rather they be working with the Feds than us.
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Leif. posted:I think you're way overcomplicating it. Make it so that the intel director gets full authority to do whatever they want for intel. The overseeing entity (UNFRAD) has veto power, but that's it. They don't order operations (they can recommend, but the responsible party for actually ordering would be intel.) Boom, you've got flexibility and oversight. Plus, the full UNEC could always vote either to veto something OR to order an operation to be conducted, if they felt that responsibilities were being ignored. I like this, and honestly the easiest way to control any intelligence division is through the power of the purse. Give Dr. Snark a reasonable discretionary budget to work with and then make him ask for more if he needs more. It doesn't have to be perfect to start out with, we can adjust it up or down depending on what our needs are. When we find a happy medium, Snark can do what the CIA does in real life: Having 10% of his staff dedicated to pulling off some fairly solid intelligence operations while the other 90% spends all day justifying a larger budget for next year. Also, and OOC: How much of this can we actually enact within the confines of the Aurora system? I know that bgreman's more savvy than your average user, but can we really get much more complicated than "Have intelligence Team X attempt to steal/sabotage/whatever Federation Y at Planet Z"? As neat as these ideas are, we're playing a game with a coded system, not a tabletop RPG where bgreman can just create things on the fly if he wants to. For example: Can we actually make a defection happen?
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Coolguye posted:FWIW guys I think we should probably note once again something that Saros said a couple pages back: 80% of the techs that are really critical and worth having are all Propulsion techs. Another 15% are missile techs. The last 5% are largely stuck in high tiers and an odd tech here and there. I agree. The deal that Cornucopia has offered is really good and we need to take them up on it immediately.
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If our plan is to take the JP1+3 offer, then our next major logistical hurdle is to either design and build a collier (as Saros suggested), but would it be possible/feasible/desirable to build a mobile refueling outpost? Something that we could place near the jump points and space throughout unexplored systems to make surveying and exploiting those systems less of a hassle? I don't know much about ship design, but it seems like a gas station would make a lot of our ship range issues much more manageable.
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Did we actually pry the plates off of those old Belnar crates and set the Xenoarchaeology team to figuring out where ET's UPS shipment was supposed to go? I didn't see it mentioned in thread.
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Cheatum the Evil Midget posted:it's more like that scene with sideshow bob and the rakes Yes. Yes, this is the perfect shorthand for this thread. For the cretinous among you: Mrrrrrurrurr
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Alchenar: The Wet Blanket We Need, The Wet Blanket We Deserve!
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bgreman posted:The winner of the election is Alchenar. He is the new head of UNCAO and may retain the services of Coolguye as deputy or assign one of his own. This seat will still stand for election in 2036. For comedy, I hope he retains Coolguye as his deputy. The contemptuous, hostile work environment at UNCAO could be a lot of fun to read.
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I suggest this system be given an official designation so I don't have to keep referring to it as UNTJS 001. I would like to name the system Macbeth and name the planets after locations and characters from that play. For the name of the (soon to be) new colony, I suggest Cawdor. For the hulk, I suggest a codename of Duncan, just to keep things consistent and not over-arouse suspicion on the part of the Fedrats. I know that everyone will want to get our engineers out to that wreck ASAP, but let's please act with a little bit of prudence and subtlety. Don't just pull them out of the Belnar ruins and send them running out there. If it's possible, we should recruit and send a second team. Otherwise, we should find a way to tow the wreck to a safer location until we have time to examine it.
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Arglebargle III posted:Gentlemen, let me be the first to say flip the gently caress OUT!  The planet is technically a L-Class.
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Arglebargle III posted:The thing is, mythological people are entirely tapped out for celestial body names. As the only nominee for our UN Cartographic Standards & Practice Fact-Finding Committee I have to point out that mythological characters are going to overlap with established celestial body naming conventions. I think we'll run out of mythology faster than you think, but this is a good system to start with. We can just do what NASA does and think up something new when we run out. FYI: When we find some totally amazing place I'm going to want to name it Tannhauser Gate, just because that's an amazing name and should be used on an amazing place.
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^^I'm very OK with this.Cheatum the Evil Midget posted:Super France, Super Orleans etc You must be at least this French in order to immigrate to Ultra France: 
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TildeATH posted:
He's under orders to be dirty. Keeps him working and out of the whorehouses.
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