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Da Vinci owns. Making him an elf, alien, or otherwise non-human does not.
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Doc Hawkins posted:Da Vinci owns. Making him an elf, alien, or otherwise non-human does not.
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| # ? Apr 8, 2012 17:53 |
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Oh hey, I found a really cool webpage that explains about the different Shadowrun videogames. It seems that some of the hyperlinks may be potentially unsafe and redirect elsewhere, but I can at least vouch for the link that takes you to the second page of the article. This really made me want to fire up the emulators again and play them. And I did always think it was pretty cool that the change was a latent DNA-esque thing. It draws a lot of parallels to all the uncertainty at the time society had about homosexuality, or diseases like AIDs, along with just a general racial/economic bigotry. Plus, even though it never had a cartoon, when I got around to it it was better than X-Men. 
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| # ? Apr 8, 2012 19:06 |
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This owns bones: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MDNsZ70c_U
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| # ? Apr 9, 2012 00:36 |
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Fantasy/sci-fi stories that try to impose themselves onto real history and historical characters really rubs me the wrong way.
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| # ? Apr 9, 2012 00:40 |
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Seashell Salesman posted:Fantasy/sci-fi stories that try to impose themselves onto real history and historical characters really rubs me the wrong way. The present and future is fictional so why get irked about a fictional past?
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| # ? Apr 9, 2012 00:44 |
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I'm more partial to this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CUhr7-Jx74 I remember recording this loop for 5 minutes. Playing it in the tape deck of my Mustang while driving at night made everything seem cooler.
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| # ? Apr 9, 2012 00:47 |
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Naky posted:The present and future is fictional so why get irked about a fictional past? I don't care if the story is set in some time period where things have veered off from what happened in our timeline, I just hate stories where it's ostensibly our timeline except the Nikola Tesla was really a vampire and all you stupid normals just didn't know about it. It's insulting and in some tragic cases turns into incredibly cringe-worthy Mary Sue poo poo. Like that sci-fi channel show Sanctuary (which is one of my guilty pleasures). e: to clarify I don't really think Shadowrun does this, just referring to the Leonardo Da Vinci thing
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| # ? Apr 9, 2012 00:59 |
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I'm so god damned excited about this. I regularly fire up the emulator and play through the Genesis version. Just dumped $30 into this. Please don't be a mistake please don't be a mistake please don't be a mistake please don't be a mistake please don't be a mistake 
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| # ? Apr 9, 2012 01:39 |
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Seashell Salesman posted:I don't care if the story is set in some time period where things have veered off from what happened in our timeline, I just hate stories where it's ostensibly our timeline except the Nikola Tesla was really a vampire and all you stupid normals just didn't know about it. It's insulting and in some tragic cases turns into incredibly cringe-worthy Mary Sue poo poo. Like that sci-fi channel show Sanctuary (which is one of my guilty pleasures). How do you know Nikola Tesla isn't a vampire?
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| # ? Apr 9, 2012 01:40 |
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WarLocke posted:How do you know Nikola Tesla isn't a vampire?
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| # ? Apr 9, 2012 01:47 |
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He surely made poo poo spark though.
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| # ? Apr 9, 2012 01:48 |
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Seashell Salesman posted:I don't care if the story is set in some time period where things have veered off from what happened in our timeline, I just hate stories where it's ostensibly our timeline except the Nikola Tesla was really a vampire and all you stupid normals just didn't know about it. It's insulting and in some tragic cases turns into incredibly cringe-worthy Mary Sue poo poo. Like that sci-fi channel show Sanctuary (which is one of my guilty pleasures). I'm going off memory here so forgive me if I have the details wrong but if I'm remembering correctly here... the thing about Shadowrun is that your true race was hidden and latent in your DNA until it came active. So if in Shadowrun's version of real but still fictional history, Tesla could very well have been a vampire and Da Vinci an elf. They were still 'human' in this real but fictional history because it wasn't active but the core of their DNA is that they were of another race. This is part of what makes the chaos of the Shadowrun world fun. A lot of people had their lives torn apart because they suddenly became an orc and so on.
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WarLocke posted:How do you know Nikola Tesla isn't a vampire? He died of heart thrombus. Naky posted:I'm going off memory here so forgive me if I have the details wrong but if I'm remembering correctly here... the thing about Shadowrun is that your true race was hidden and latent in your DNA until it came active. So if in Shadowrun's version of real but still fictional history, Tesla could very well have been a vampire and Da Vinci an elf. They were still 'human' in this real but fictional history because it wasn't active but the core of their DNA is that they were of another race. Shadowrun doesn't really rewrite history because the mundane age ended (and still will for a little while) in the future. Bringing dead people back for your futuristic story is still cheesy and presumptuous (just like every time Star Trek did it), but not as bad I guess.
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| # ? Apr 9, 2012 01:55 |
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We've only got like a half a year left before the awakening, though. Right? edit: for what it's worth, corporate personhood is eerily on-schedule
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Young Freud posted:I'm more partial to this... I really dig the "schattenlauf" bar music. Nothing better when you're negotiating with a johnson.
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| # ? Apr 9, 2012 02:02 |
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pw pw pw posted:We've only got like a half a year left before the awakening, though. Right?
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| # ? Apr 9, 2012 02:42 |
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I cannot wait for this. Neither can my brother, here is some shameful plugging of fan art that my brother did awhile back when he was pining for some Shadowrun.   Jake! You're still alive?!! You're crazy man. You got tech in your head people want, bad! Word on the street is that someone wants you DEAD! /  
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| # ? Apr 9, 2012 02:54 |
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So at 700K we're halfway from 400K to a million now! What do you think the chances are that we'll make it?
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| # ? Apr 9, 2012 03:38 |
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Those images are awesome, you should get him to do some of the genesis art!
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| # ? Apr 9, 2012 04:26 |
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I'd say we're gonna make it. The only thing I have against the SNES music was that it was short. It's so good that you didn't mind the loop in-game, but I wish I had ten minute long tracks in that style to use as background music in game and as background music in general. For some reason that sort of music really helps keep my ADD in check. Did anyone else get a knot in their stomach when they saw the arcology mentioned in VisAbsoluta's post? Done right, it was beyond a horror show.
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Siljmonster posted:I cannot wait for this. Awesome pictures, but this is one crazy mean Koopa Trooper. Hopefully monday or tuesday they'll release another update. And hopefully we'll hit 750k before tomorrow is over.
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| # ? Apr 9, 2012 07:37 |
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Those pictures are nice but there is a cat person in one of them and that scares me. Does Shadowrun have cat people?
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| # ? Apr 9, 2012 07:40 |
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No, not really. There was a fox girl in the SNES game, which is what that fanart is from. I know the tabletop setting has shapeshifters, but I dont think they walked around with animal ears on human bodies, generally. There are also awakened (magical) animals, which may have been what that kitsune girl was. What would be much more likely, I think, is that someone would have surgery to give them cyber or bio-cat ears. The surgical techniques certainly exist, and there are all kinds of body mod weirdos in the world (wannabe elves that get ear extensions, etc). That sort of thing isn't uncommon in shadowrun. So the more I think about it, the more I realize that the answer is yes, there are cat people in shadowrun. But they're the exact same breed of freaky deaky cat-eared people that exist today.
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pw pw pw posted:So the more I think about it, the more I realize that the answer is yes, there are cat people in shadowrun. But they're the exact same breed of freaky deaky cat-eared people that exist today. Um... I have some bad news. Some (stupid) supplement (you shouldn't use) introduced more crazy poo poo, including straight-up furries as playable races. (Also, the kitsune girl could be seen on-stage at a nightclub (becuase she's a rockstar too, you see) changing between humanoid and fox forms when she wasn't in your party, she's a shapeshift. I don't think they normally walked around with animal ears and tails on their human bodies though.)
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| # ? Apr 9, 2012 09:16 |
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Year of the Comet was a terrible book that would be best forgotten, yes.
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| # ? Apr 9, 2012 09:41 |
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If it makes you feel any better, there are plenty of anti-metahuman groups that would straight up lynch the furries in this universe. (It is easier than trying to lynch a troll.)
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| # ? Apr 9, 2012 09:43 |
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Anywhere I can get hi-res versions of those?
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| # ? Apr 9, 2012 10:38 |
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Yeah does your brother have higher res (wallpaper sized) versions of those SNES Shadowrun drawings? They are awesome. e: here is his website there are some other cool pictures there.  
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 Kitsune is pretty much an unbiased shape-shifting servant of the Dog, so much that she just shows her spiritual side in silly dog ears. I asked him for some high-res wallpaper versions.
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Zereth posted:Um... I have some bad news.
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| # ? Apr 9, 2012 13:28 |
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Moto42 posted:I'd say we're gonna make it. The street music when your not in combat in both snes and genises games give the best feelings of grime in a city all run out of humanity. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRMh3OJqsFo This song by Danger pretty much sums up the feeling any Shadowrun type setting I can think of.
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Naky posted:This is part of what makes the chaos of the Shadowrun world fun. A lot of people had their lives torn apart because they suddenly became an orc and so on. What's so bad about being an Orc again? Other than being giant and ugly and being in fantasy so Orcs = evil?
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Al! posted:What's so bad about being an Orc again? Other than being giant and ugly Keep in mind that this transformation happens during puberty, instead of at birth like dwarves and elves, and you can understand why turning into an orc would be a bad experience.
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Al! posted:What's so bad about being an Orc again? Other than being giant and ugly and being in fantasy so Orcs = evil? They only live 35-40 yeas and are less intelligent than humans. Pretty much an underclass.
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| # ? Apr 9, 2012 14:46 |
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Could orcs be deckers? I'm hoping that with enough implants they could at least feign some higher intelligence.
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| # ? Apr 9, 2012 15:07 |
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Let me just pull out this stack of like 100 rulebooks and flavor texts, and I'll explain.
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| # ? Apr 9, 2012 15:16 |
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I would assume since Orcs are just mutated humans that they should be able get implanted in some form or fashion. That actually might make a good campaign plot point or even huge over-arching story. Either about a trying to get an Orc decked out or Corp trying to create highly intelligent(but obedient) Orcs for for elite Shadowrunning. Would introducing some interesting elements into the narrative one way or the other. quote:If it makes you feel any better, there are plenty of anti-metahuman groups that would straight up lynch the furries in this universe. (It is easier than trying to lynch a troll.) Yea, I was going to mention its a lot easier to hate-on someone and build a successful lynch mob when your targets aren't dual wielding fully automatic shotgun rocket launchers. Berk Berkly fucked around with this message at Apr 9, 2012 around 15:34 |
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Wasn't the first recruitable shadowrunner in the SNES game an Orc Decker?
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| # ? Apr 9, 2012 15:38 |
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Orks can totally be deckers. Their maximum unaugmented intelligence is 5 (humans are 6), but they can still do it just fine. They're just not ~optimum~ (but that only matters to silly people). An average human is a 2, I think, so 5 is no problem.
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