Aliens: Colonial Marines - The Best game from Gearbox since DNF

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Yodzilla: Apr 29, 2005; †

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I'd like to see a game do that but with just ONE monster. ONE really hard-to-kill/stop monster that you don't know where will strike next. Be it an alien monster or a horror movie slasher stalker.

That's what made Resident Evil 3 so goddamn scary.

# ? May 22, 2012 13:02

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# ? May 23, 2013 18:23

Spacedad: Sep 11, 2001; We go play orbital catch around the curvature of the earth, son.

Even that janky old game had lots of stupid smaller 'filler' enemies.

I dunno - I think I want to see someone approach a 'being stalked by a single intelligent and hard to stop monster' game the way that shadow of the collossus's minimalism approached 'fight one single epic boss at time.'

# ? May 22, 2012 13:16

Dan Didio: Apr 6, 2009; Should've sent a poet.

blackguy32 posted:

Friday the 13th for the nes??

Contrary to popular belief, was not just a repetitive mini-game where your camp personnel got slaughtered piecemeal by the unstoppable Jason. There were zombies all up in that loving game.

Yodzilla posted:

That's what made Resident Evil 3 so goddamn scary.

Tense, perhaps. Which sadly drained out of the game the second you realized how easy the Nemesis' encounters were to beat. I think Outbreak and File 2 did some stuff along this line that had the advantage of more experience and better execution, though.

# ? May 22, 2012 13:21

Policenaut: Jul 11, 2008; A man's life of fifty years
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Life is but a fleeting dream

Both Outbreak games had a Nemesis-like enemy that chased you throughout the stage.

File #1 had "Leech Man" in the hospital stage. He was a corpse that was controlled by a swarm of apparently hyper-intelligent leeches. His whole gimmick was that he could basically teleport from room to room by disassembling the swarm and then scuttling through an air duct to another room to attack you. Since most of the rooms in the hospital had air ducts, it meant Leech Man could pop up at any time. I seem to recall he had the standard zombie attacks and a Bandersnatch-esque stretchy arm whip attack too. The worst part about him was that he really couldn't be killed until the very end of the stage, only repelled for certain amounts of time. He's actually pretty scary at first because he's a looming, omnipresent enemy that just won't die so you'll probably wind up unloading tons of ammo into him only to realize he's not going down.

File #2 had a slightly worse one: the Axe Murderer, who appeared in that really awful forest stage that lead into a broken down, abandoned cliffside hospital. He was a more straight forward enemy, just a really pissed off mutant guy ala Clock Tower who appeared at random times with a fire axe. I seem to recall you could gun him down, but he operated on Jason rules so he'd eventually come back.

# ? May 22, 2012 13:49

Yodzilla: Apr 29, 2005; †

Dan Didio posted:

Tense, perhaps. Which sadly drained out of the game the second you realized how easy the Nemesis' encounters were to beat.

Eventually yeah but for that first playthrough it kind of blew my mind that running out of a room wasn't going to save me. What do you mean he can follow me through doorways this isn't how Resident Evil works!!

# ? May 22, 2012 14:02

nictigre03: Oct 31, 2011

Policenaut posted:

Both Outbreak games had a Nemesis-like enemy that chased you throughout the stage.

File #1 had "Leech Man" in the hospital stage. He was a corpse that was controlled by a swarm of apparently hyper-intelligent leeches. His whole gimmick was that he could basically teleport from room to room by disassembling the swarm and then scuttling through an air duct to another room to attack you. Since most of the rooms in the hospital had air ducts, it meant Leech Man could pop up at any time. I seem to recall he had the standard zombie attacks and a Bandersnatch-esque stretchy arm whip attack too. The worst part about him was that he really couldn't be killed until the very end of the stage, only repelled for certain amounts of time. He's actually pretty scary at first because he's a looming, omnipresent enemy that just won't die so you'll probably wind up unloading tons of ammo into him only to realize he's not going down.

File #2 had a slightly worse one: the Axe Murderer, who appeared in that really awful forest stage that lead into a broken down, abandoned cliffside hospital. He was a more straight forward enemy, just a really pissed off mutant guy ala Clock Tower who appeared at random times with a fire axe. I seem to recall you could gun him down, but he operated on Jason rules so he'd eventually come back.

I totally forgot about "Leech Man", he was great.

# ? May 22, 2012 14:12

blackguy32: Oct 1, 2005; FLAVA FLAV!!!!!

I found that single player trailer to be kind of funny. "Aliens will use stealth and bounce off walls" Then in the video it shows a Alien walking quite slow up to your face.

But I guess it can't be any worse than some of the other Marine campaigns out there.

# ? May 22, 2012 14:26

Trollocalypse: May 22, 2012; "Quit no-scoping, Hitler!!" - Winston Churchill. Probably.

This game only needs two elements to be moderately enjoyable.

Firstly, make the Aliens uber glass-guns. If they get shot they die; if they get close you die, or you scatter (and then die). I know this seems like a simple concept but the game designers need to have the balls to carry it through without worrying about whinging kiddies shouting for an all-purpose killing machine. While this will force the Alien players to lurk in the shadows more, awarding patient and coordinated attacks with a slaughterfest, it'll also force marine players to huddle together for survival, a la Left 4 Dead (a game which got spot on (for the most part) how to punish loners). The worst thing I can imagine this game being is Aliens charging about in broad daylight taking massive damage and just attritionally grinding down the marines.

Secondly, provide an in-game comms system that works on proximity. The farther you move away from teammates the harder it is to hear them. That way, when you're alone, you're REALLY alone. I know people can circumvent it but it'd be a nice touch.

# ? May 22, 2012 14:44

blackguy32: Oct 1, 2005; FLAVA FLAV!!!!!

Trollocalypse posted:

This game only needs two elements to be moderately enjoyable.

Firstly, make the Aliens uber glass-guns. If they get shot they die; if they get close you die, or you scatter (and then die). I know this seems like a simple concept but the game designers need to have the balls to carry it through without worrying about whinging kiddies shouting for an all-purpose killing machine. While this will force the Alien players to lurk in the shadows more, awarding patient and coordinated attacks with a slaughterfest, it'll also force marine players to huddle together for survival, a la Left 4 Dead (a game which got spot on (for the most part) how to punish loners). The worst thing I can imagine this game being is Aliens charging about in broad daylight taking massive damage and just attritionally grinding down the marines.

Secondly, provide an in-game comms system that works on proximity. The farther you move away from teammates the harder it is to hear them. That way, when you're alone, you're REALLY alone. I know people can circumvent it but it'd be a nice touch.

From what I have seen you probably aren't going to get the first considering we have seen videos of Marines simply pushing Aliens away with their gun much like Left 4 Dead.

# ? May 22, 2012 14:46

Basebf555: Feb 29, 2008

blackguy32 posted:

From what I have seen you probably aren't going to get the first considering we have seen videos of Marines simply pushing Aliens away with their gun much like Left 4 Dead.

To use the L4D analogy, Aliens need to be more like the witch and less like any random zombie. You should think you have plenty of room to take them down and then BAM theyre in your face and your dead before you know it.

# ? May 22, 2012 15:57

Revitalized: Sep 13, 2007; A free custom title is a free custom title

Trollocalypse posted:

Secondly, provide an in-game comms system that works on proximity. The farther you move away from teammates the harder it is to hear them. That way, when you're alone, you're REALLY alone. I know people can circumvent it but it'd be a nice touch.

Don't Colonial Marines have radios and mics? Nice touch if this were a game of civilians sure, but they're mostly fully equipped soldiers, I think they'd have communications.

# ? May 23, 2012 06:04

Xenomrph: Dec 9, 2005; AvP Online Encyclopedia

Revitalized posted:

Don't Colonial Marines have radios and mics? Nice touch if this were a game of civilians sure, but they're mostly fully equipped soldiers, I think they'd have communications.

Yeah, but in the movie their comms went in the toilet as they entered the hive (when they initially got massacred). Whether that was a byproduct of being in the bowels of the atmosphere processor, of whether it was due to the slimy hive gunk all over the walls, the movie doesn't exactly make clear.

In the old Leading Edge 'Aliens' pencil-and-paper RPG, the Alien hive gunk can gently caress with comms.

Speaking of Leading Edge, anyone jonesing for some filler Colonial Marine action should try the Aliens board game Flash edition. Think the way the Marines handled themselves in the movie was bullshit? Think you could do better, and keep more of them alive? See if you're right!

Also the Colonial Marines Technical Manual is finally, finally getting reprinted later this month after being out-of-print for like 15 years. It is absolutely worth buying.

Xenomrph fucked around with this message at May 23, 2012 around 07:00

# ? May 23, 2012 06:51

blackguy32: Oct 1, 2005; FLAVA FLAV!!!!!

Xenomrph posted:

Yeah, but in the movie their comms went in the toilet as they entered the hive (when they initially got massacred). Whether that was a byproduct of being in the bowels of the atmosphere processor, of whether it was due to the slimy hive gunk all over the walls, the movie doesn't exactly make clear.

The movie is really weird about it. They could transmit video pretty much perfectly but the audio signal was fading in and out.

# ? May 23, 2012 07:01

Capn Beeb: Jun 29, 2003; Can it be fired with a massive erection?

Xenomrph posted:

Also the Colonial Marines Technical Manual is finally, finally getting reprinted later this month after being out-of-print for like 15 years. It is absolutely worth buying.

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OH WHAT A BEAUTIFUL DAAAAAAAAY

# ? May 23, 2012 07:29

Mister Macys: Apr 21, 2007; "Hey Commander, y'know I had my doubts about the Pubbies, but after years of ignoring your warning, they're finally willing to step up and tell us they just can't help. Did they at least validate our parking?"

blackguy32 posted:

The movie is really weird about it. They could transmit video pretty much perfectly but the audio signal was fading in and out.

I dunno, I seem to remember the video washing out here and there.
And I think the static was heavier than when it showed them entering Operations.

# ? May 23, 2012 08:30

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Mister Macys posted:

I dunno, I seem to remember the video washing out here and there.
And I think the static was heavier than when it showed them entering Operations.

I think you're right. They couldn't entirely tell what was going on in the video feeds. They were very unclear.
Part of what made those scenes so tense.

# ? May 23, 2012 09:38

evobatman: Jul 30, 2006; it means nothing, but says everything!

Xenomrph posted:

Also the Colonial Marines Technical Manual is finally, finally getting reprinted later this month after being out-of-print for like 15 years. It is absolutely worth buying.

This is the fastest it's ever been between me seeing something on Amazon and buying it.

# ? May 30, 2012 16:29

Revitalized: Sep 13, 2007; A free custom title is a free custom title

http://www.gearboxity.com/content/view/880/33/

Official announcement of the Collector's Edition.

quote:

Recently, we announced that Aliens: Colonial Marines has a worldwide release date of February 12, 2013. Today, we're unveiling details on the Aliens: Colonial Marines Collector's Edition (US $99.99) as well as the bonuses fans will receive by pre-ordering the game from a participating retailer, including four playable characters from the original 1986 movie for competitive multiplayer.
North America

GameStop Exclusive Pre-Order Content in North America*

Four Playable Movie Characters
Players will be able to fight for their squad�s survival and confront hordes of enemies as the original ALIENS film icons Private Hudson, Corporal Hicks, Private Drake and Sergeant Apone.
Additional Marines Character Customization Options
Ripley�s Flamethrower

Collector�s Edition*

High Quality Resin Powerloader Figurine in Limited Edition Xeno Hive Box
Four Playable Movie Characters
Players will be able to fight for their squad�s survival and confront hordes of enemies as the original ALIENS film icons Private Hudson, Corporal Hicks, Private Drake and Sergeant Apone.
Additional Marines Character Customization Options
Ripley�s Flamethrower
Exclusive Multiplayer Weapons
Sonic Electronic Ball Breakers
Phase Plasma Rifle
Exclusive Game Level
USCM Academy Firing Range
USCM Dossier
Mission Brief
USS Sephora Schematic
Recruitment Card
LV-426 Recon Photo
USCM Iron-on Badges
USCM Graduation Certificate

International

Limited Edition for Pre-Order*

Four Playable Movie Characters
Players will be able to fight for their squad�s survival and confront hordes of enemies as the original ALIENS film icons Private Hudson, Corporal Hicks, Private Drake and Sergeant Apone.
Additional Marines Character Customization Options
Ripley�s Flamethrower

Collector�s Edition*

High Quality Resin Powerloader Figurine in Limited Edition Xeno Hive Box
Four Playable Movie Characters
Players will be able to fight for their squad�s survival and confront hordes of enemies as the original ALIENS film icons Private Hudson, Corporal Hicks, Private Drake and Sergeant Apone.
Additional Marines Character Customization Options
Ripley�s Flamethrower
Exclusive Multiplayer Weapons
Sonic Electronic Ball Breakers
Phase Plasma Rifle
Exclusive Game Level
USCM Academy Firing Range
USCM Dossier
Mission Brief
USS Sephora Schematic
Recruitment Card
LV-426 Recon Photo
USCM Iron-on Badges
USCM Graduation Certificate

*While supplies last. Participating retailers only. Internet connection required to access downloadable bonus content.

YOU CAN PLAY AS HUDSON. _{_{calling dibs.}} (for multiplayer anyways)

Revitalized fucked around with this message at May 31, 2012 around 19:02

# ? May 31, 2012 18:58

ChickenHeart: Nov 28, 2007; Take me at your own risk.

So uh...what do the "Sonic Electronic Ball Breakers" do, exactly? Aside from breaking balls, that is.

# ? May 31, 2012 19:03

Jerkface: May 21, 2001

Those motherfuckers, giving Drake to gamestop? Now I have to buy this poo poo from gamestop, gently caress.

# ? May 31, 2012 19:13

Capn Beeb: Jun 29, 2003; Can it be fired with a massive erection?

No sharp stick? No sale.

ChickenHeart posted:

So uh...what do the "Sonic Electronic Ball Breakers" do, exactly? Aside from breaking balls, that is.

They sure made someone excited in the drop ship.

Scoobi posted:

Those motherfuckers, giving Drake to gamestop? Now I have to buy this poo poo from gamestop, gently caress.

No poo poo

Also where is Frost

Capn Beeb fucked around with this message at May 31, 2012 around 19:18

# ? May 31, 2012 19:15

Xenomrph: Dec 9, 2005; AvP Online Encyclopedia

Definitely buying the collector's edition.

# ? May 31, 2012 19:16

notZaar: Jan 7, 2004

Man, why does every game that involves this IP always focus on the inferior sequels? I would love a survival horror type game in the vein of Alien.

# ? May 31, 2012 19:19

Jerkface: May 21, 2001

Hm or do you get all the benefits if you buy the collector's edition? If so I will just get that poo poo from amazon. I hate all this pre-order non sense. This could be the worst game in history and I still want to be drake

# ? May 31, 2012 19:19

Revitalized: Sep 13, 2007; A free custom title is a free custom title

http://forums.gearboxsoftware.com/s...79&postcount=28

Gearbox Guy posted:

Drake and Apone will be using the voices of the original actors. Nothing else to share about returning characters at this time.

No confirmation on Hudson or Hicks though?

edit: egad, what's with all these awful Duke Nukem emoticons on the forums haha.

# ? May 31, 2012 19:31

Xenomrph: Dec 9, 2005; AvP Online Encyclopedia

notZaar posted:

Man, why does every game that involves this IP always focus on the inferior sequels? I would love a survival horror type game in the vein of Alien.

'Aliens' isn't inferior to 'Alien', it's just different.

Also there are plenty of survival-horror elements in this (and in the AvP games), did you see how many Marines were getting murdered by Aliens? They kinda have to give the player guns otherwise it would be a short game - we saw what happened in 'Alien' when none of the characters were armed: everyone got killed.

poo poo, 'Aliens' showed us that even if everyone has a gun, everyone gets killed anyway.

Revitalized posted:

http://forums.gearboxsoftware.com/s...79&postcount=28

No confirmation on Hudson or Hicks though?

edit: egad, what's with all these awful Duke Nukem emoticons on the forums haha.

I wonder if that means they're just using soundbites from the movie, or if they got the actors to record new dialogue.

# ? May 31, 2012 19:33

Spalec: Apr 16, 2010

Capn Beeb posted:

No sharp stick? No sale.

They need a Harsh Language DLC pack.

# ? May 31, 2012 19:34

Jerkface: May 21, 2001

A survival horror game vs an alien would be cool, but it'd be over in about 2 seconds.

# ? May 31, 2012 19:35

Policenaut: Jul 11, 2008; A man's life of fifty years
is nothing in comparison
to the age of this world

Life is but a fleeting dream

notZaar posted:

Man, why does every game that involves this IP always focus on the inferior sequels? I would love a survival horror type game in the vein of Alien.

Enemy Zero? Granted that's a Japanese take on Alien itself.

# ? May 31, 2012 19:36

Revitalized: Sep 13, 2007; A free custom title is a free custom title

North America is NOT getting a Collector's Edition for PC. They will still get it for PS3 and 360 though.

International will get the CE for PC though. Ugh.

Pre-order regular edition from gamestop will get you the returning actors pack, but it will also be available as DLC down the line.

(from that same Gearbox thread)

# ? May 31, 2012 20:00

Wazzit: Jul 16, 2004; Who wants to play video games?

Revitalized posted:

http://www.gearboxity.com/content/view/880/33/

Official announcement of the Collector's Edition.

Four Playable Movie Characters
Players will be able to fight for their squad�s survival and confront hordes of enemies as the original ALIENS film icons Private Hudson, Corporal Hicks, Private Drake and Sergeant Apone.
Additional Marines Character Customization Options
Ripley�s Flamethrower

No Vasquez?

Nice to see they finally got wise and put Ripley's flamethrower in an Aliens game, with duct tape and everything.

Wazzit fucked around with this message at May 31, 2012 around 20:12

# ? May 31, 2012 20:09

Jefferoo: Jun 23, 2008; PLEASE GO AWAY JEFFEROO. YOU ARE NOT AN INTELLECTUAL SAVIOR, YOU ARE THE WORST POSTER IN GAMES(AND RAPIDLY GOING DEAF!) AND A BLIGHT UPON HUMANITY.

Wazzit posted:

No Vasquez?

Female space marines? In my Gearbox Game? Ha. HAHA! AAHAHA, gently caress these people. Jesus. Vasquez was a pretty big deal.

# ? May 31, 2012 20:12

Wazzit: Jul 16, 2004; Who wants to play video games?

Jefferoo posted:

Female space marines? In my Gearbox Game? Ha. HAHA! AAHAHA, gently caress these people. Jesus. Vasquez was a pretty big deal.

There was another Collector's Edition ad that shows a female space marine.

It was possible.

Probably dlc... I'd buy it.

# ? May 31, 2012 20:19

Yodzilla: Apr 29, 2005; †

Why do the space marines look like cartoons?

# ? May 31, 2012 20:28

SyRauk: Jun 21, 2007; The Persian Menace

What do you mean I can't play as an alien queen?

# ? May 31, 2012 20:32

Jerkface: May 21, 2001

Revitalized posted:

North America is NOT getting a Collector's Edition for PC. They will still get it for PS3 and 360 though.

International will get the CE for PC though. Ugh.

Pre-order regular edition from gamestop will get you the returning actors pack, but it will also be available as DLC down the line.

(from that same Gearbox thread)

Forcing me to pre order and get it on a console instead of PC

# ? May 31, 2012 21:11

Revitalized: Sep 13, 2007; A free custom title is a free custom title

Anyone going to Comic-Con can get in a tie-in comic book! http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/07...l-marines-comic

# ? Jul 9, 2012 21:09

Xenomrph: Dec 9, 2005; AvP Online Encyclopedia

I'm not going to Comic Con, but someone NEEDS to get me that comic.

# ? Jul 10, 2012 01:13

Revitalized: Sep 13, 2007; A free custom title is a free custom title

Xenomrph posted:

I'm not going to Comic Con, but someone NEEDS to get me that comic.

Heh I already got a man on the inside whose gonna get it to me

At least I hope he remembers to pick up an extra

Look at that?!

# ? Jul 10, 2012 01:23

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# ? May 23, 2013 18:23

Sire Oblivion: Apr 22, 2008; Down the Rabbit Hole.

Revitalized posted:

http://www.gearboxity.com/content/view/880/33/

Official announcement of the Collector's Edition.

Why the gently caress is the regular Alien the size of a Queen?

Scoobi posted:

A survival horror game vs an alien would be cool, but it'd be over in about 2 seconds.

It would be awesome if they made it very Amnesia-esque and basically retold the story from Alien, you and one of your crew gets face hugged and then your ship has an Alien running around screwing you over. Your whole squad is gone and you have to operate the ship by yourself to survive and get the gently caress off on the lifeboat. No shooting required, just a lot of tense moments running from whatever lurks in the darkness.

Xenomrph posted:

'Aliens' isn't inferior to 'Alien', it's just different.

Yeah, different by being inferior.

# ? Jul 10, 2012 02:02

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