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Tibeerius posted:I take it there's no way to view derived stats like evasion, accuracy, and double-attack rate? If not, are there any good (non-spoilery) writeups out there? I would like to second this request.
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Realising that Satorl Marsh is the Bionis' butt was a pretty amusing moment for my friend. Speaking of moments, finding the Black Wreckage (bit of a mistranslation there, it seems) was pretty drat cool. Surprised they didn't tuck it away and call it a secret location, given what it is.
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| # ? Apr 11, 2012 19:19 |
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Glumwheels posted:I'm not very far in the game but is it fine to play as a damage dealer and let someone else tank? Or do I need to take more control over tanking? I tend not to main with the tanks since I am apparently not very good at using them. I keep losing agro to Shulk thanks to his constant high damage output. When I play as DPS I can always back off for a moment if the tank is having trouble keeping up.
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| # ? Apr 11, 2012 19:50 |
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Allan Assiduity posted:Realising that Satorl Marsh is the Bionis' butt was a pretty amusing moment for my friend. Remind me again, what is that?
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| # ? Apr 11, 2012 20:06 |
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Calaveron posted:Remind me again, what is that? Spoiler: It's the wreckage of Metal Face, isn't it? In the Japanese version, he was called Black Face. They changed it for the English release to avoid the obvious racist associations, so the wreckage should be called "Metal Wreckage." Though that's still kind of stupid, because any wreckage is technically a metal wreckage.
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| # ? Apr 11, 2012 21:04 |
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Blind Sally posted:Spoiler: It's the wreckage of Metal Face, isn't it? In the Japanese version, he was called Black Face. They changed it for the English release to avoid the obvious racist associations, so the wreckage should be called "Metal Wreckage." Though that's still kind of stupid, because any wreckage is technically a metal wreckage. Oh man I completely missed that. That's found in Fallen Arm, right?
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| # ? Apr 11, 2012 21:08 |
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Thundarr posted:I tend not to main with the tanks since I am apparently not very good at using them. I keep losing agro to Shulk thanks to his constant high damage output. When I play as DPS I can always back off for a moment if the tank is having trouble keeping up. Ok good to know. That's prett much how I've been playing it now.
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| # ? Apr 11, 2012 21:18 |
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How do I get to the top of the fortressin Satori Marsh to use the giant key?
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| # ? Apr 11, 2012 21:41 |
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ScarletBrother posted:How do I get to the top of the fortressin Satori Marsh to use the giant key? The back wall of the main room is usable.
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| # ? Apr 11, 2012 21:44 |
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Sultan Tarquin posted:The back wall of the main room is usable. That means I have to take down that named guy sitting on the throne. Boo!
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| # ? Apr 11, 2012 21:49 |
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Blind Sally posted:Though that's still kind of stupid, because any wreckage is technically a metal wreckage. Calaveron posted:Oh man I completely missed that. That's found in Fallen Arm, right? Oh, and do the timed quests in Alcamoth relocate when I inevitably reach the point where time's up? Or should I just have a go and get through as many as I can before pressing on?
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| # ? Apr 11, 2012 21:49 |
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Allan Assiduity posted:Oh, and do the timed quests in Alcamoth relocate when I inevitably reach the point where time's up? Or should I just have a go and get through as many as I can before pressing on? They don't, but they expire when you're 80 or 90% done with the game.
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| # ? Apr 11, 2012 21:52 |
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ScarletBrother posted:That means I have to take down that named guy sitting on the throne. Boo! Actually, I think you can sneak around him, just have to take it slow. Just take out the mob around him by throwing stones at his subordinates from a distance and you should be able to access the wall with no issues. Allan Assiduity posted:Oh, and do the timed quests in Alcamoth relocate when I inevitably reach the point where time's up? Or should I just have a go and get through as many as I can before pressing on? From what I remember, once they're gone they're gone, so do them as soon as you can because the point of no return for those quests comes up pretty quickly after you leave that area.
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| # ? Apr 11, 2012 21:54 |
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ScarletBrother posted:That means I have to take down that named guy sitting on the throne. Boo! Take the side entrance and walk to the back wall. You don't need to fight anything in that room.
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| # ? Apr 11, 2012 22:08 |
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Louisgod posted:Actually, I think you can sneak around him, just have to take it slow. Just take out the mob around him by throwing stones at his subordinates from a distance and you should be able to access the wall with no issues. I just used that method last night for another quest located at the fortress so I can confirm it works. I couldn't find the back way in until after I was already inside. 
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| # ? Apr 11, 2012 22:11 |
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Thundarr posted:I just used that method last night for another quest located at the fortress so I can confirm it works. I couldn't find the back way in until after I was already inside. Minor related quest spoiler Just watch out for the 3 level 32 spiders that pop out from nowhere!
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| # ? Apr 11, 2012 22:21 |
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Calaveron posted:They don't, but they expire when you're 80 or 90% done with the game. Louisgod posted:From what I remember, once they're gone they're gone, so do them as soon as you can because the point of no return for those quests comes up pretty quickly after you leave that area. These two answers seem to contradict each other? This FAQ http://www.gamefaqs.com/wii/960564-...cles/faqs/62899 seems to suggest it's not until near the end. Lakitu7 fucked around with this message at Apr 11, 2012 around 22:40 |
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Lakitu7 posted:These two answers seem to contradict each other? Oh you know what? I was getting the cities mixed up. However, there does come a point where Alcamoth quests DO expire, and it's actually not too long after what I was originally thinking, so 80 to 90% of the way through is about right.
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| # ? Apr 11, 2012 22:52 |
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I've been too busy to really tear into this but I've been able to put in a solid four or five hours so far (leaving Colony 9 after the Mechon assault) and I'm loving it. It's been a long time since I've played a new jRPG but this is really easy to get into, probably because it borrows a fair amount of ideas from western titles. A couple areas that deserve more commentary- Combat- I never played FF12 so this sort of combat is new to me but I'm really enjoying it. Group tactics and positioning aren't something I'm used to in a jRPG but I'm a fan. I'm not a huge fan of the Break -> Topple mechanic but I imagine that's because I don't have too many options yet as far as that goes. I also wish you could give discrete orders to party members (like in Tales of Symphonia) but as others have said the AI is pretty good at picking up on what you're trying to do. Sound- The music is awesome, not much else to say that hasn't been already. I'm also a big fan of the voice acting; the constant stream of British accents gives the game a unique charm and I love the combat banter. Others have said it's too much but I think it works really well with the emphasis on teamwork that pops up several gameplay mechanics. I wish I could play it tonight but I have to work late and really need to get started on filing my taxes  Especially because the story has really hooked me, having just gotten past where (first area spoiler) the Mechon rolled into town and slaughtered everyone, including poor Fiora. That bummed me out to an unreasonable degree but the savvy gamer in me says she wouldn't have all these official art bits, full skill trees, and equipment options if she was gone for good...right?  Definitely looking forward to when I have more time to play this, whenever that is. evilalien posted:On the skills screen for any character you can press - I believe to open up the skill link menu where you can equip certain skills from other party members onto a given character. Each skill you link requires a certain amount of affinity coins to equip so it's best that you get as many as you can. Each unique monster you kill will give one. This is useful and should be in the tips in the OP, I had no idea what affinity coins were for.
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| # ? Apr 11, 2012 23:06 |
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Got a craving to play this again since the NA release, I finished it with about 70 hours after it was released here (AUS). It's rare for me to replay single player games once I've completed especially ones of this size, from memory there was a new game+ mode? if so I might give that a go.
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Allan Assiduity posted:To be fair[...] True. I never understood why Xord got a name but Metal Face didn't. C-Euro posted:[...]Especially because the story has really hooked me, having just gotten past where (first area spoiler) the Mechon rolled into town and slaughtered everyone, including poor Fiora. That bummed me out to an unreasonable degree but the savvy gamer in me says she wouldn't have all these official art bits, full skill trees, and equipment options if she was gone for good...right? It's not like a precedent already exists...
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Blind Sally posted:True. I never understood why Xord got a name but Metal Face didn't. Ummm, yes he did. It's Mumkhar.
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C-Euro posted:Especially because the story has really hooked me, having just gotten past where (first area spoiler) the Mechon rolled into town and slaughtered everyone, including poor Fiora. That bummed me out to an unreasonable degree but the savvy gamer in me says she wouldn't have all these official art bits, full skill trees, and equipment options if she was gone for good...right? I just got to that point myself when I stopped last night. What I really liked about that scene is that, just before it, they make it a point to show you (early spoiler)that the Monado shows Shulk short visions of the future, and that he's able to change the outcome if he reacts quickly enough. So it's just that much more impactful to see him get the vision and then be unable to do anything about it. Of course, maybe that was unintentional and I'm making connections from nothing But the story and characters really do seem competently written so far, I'm loving it.
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| # ? Apr 12, 2012 00:59 |
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Blind Sally posted:True. I never understood why Xord got a name but Metal Face didn't. The bit about him being called Black Face instead of Metal Face in the original is kinda interesting though, I never knew that. Makes me wonder why they didn't translate it as Onyx Face or Obsidian Face or some other black metal/mineral
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Violently Car posted:Ummm, yes he did. It's Mumkhar. Not what we're talking about. Why do the villains refer to Xord as Xord and Mumkhar as Metal Face? As Allan Assiduity pointed out, it makes sense for the HEROES to call the Faced Mechons by these names (i.e. Bronze Face, Jade Face, Gold Face, etc.) cause they don't know what the vehicles are called, but it gets silly when the villains call each other by those names as well. I mean, I know they wanted to keep Mumkhar's identity a secret for the big reveal, but Egil's Mechon had a proper name: Yaldabaoth. Anyways, it's a minor complaint. EDIT: Uh, looking over my previous post, I realize I wasn't being clear. I totally understand why Xord used his name, but Mumkhar didn't. I guess I'm just puzzled as to why he would adopt Metal Face, the identifier that the heroes refer to him as, rather than some sweet born-again Mechon name. Blind Sally fucked around with this message at Apr 12, 2012 around 01:25 |
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Tupperwarez posted:Honestly, I think Mumkhar would be just the kind of person who would throw away their own name just to gain more power. They weren't exactly the most stable of people to begin with. I dunno. I mean, I understand why people who had their memories wiped wouldn't really bother (like Jade Face's pilot), but Mumkhar seems pretty arrogant. You think he'd give himself some really cool-sounding name so people would think he's a badass, or something. Also, fun Xord spoiler: Talk to Desiree in Colony 9 after killing him.Turns out Xord was her father.
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BabyRyoga posted:Around the lake, any ability that pushes back can knock an enemy off and deal 100% damage. When you attack something that high you are likely to miss though unless you put them to sleep with Melia right on the ledge and have her kick them off with her physical move. I'm going to have to try this now. I'm fearful of breaking the game due to the XP/items it'll give though. ScarletBrother posted:That means I have to take down that named guy sitting on the throne. Boo! No you don't.
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| # ? Apr 12, 2012 01:19 |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VddU2NcNY-c (Mild spoilers to the beginning of the game) It's a super cheesy cutscene, but gatdamn is that robot not badass as poo poo
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| # ? Apr 12, 2012 01:37 |
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Mister Snips posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VddU2NcNY-c Not as badass as that guy's mustache.
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| # ? Apr 12, 2012 02:01 |
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Am I going to be punished for never having played this series before, and having no concept of the story?
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| # ? Apr 12, 2012 02:24 |
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Varicelli posted:Am I going to be punished for never having played this series before, and having no concept of the story? It's not part of any series. It's completely unrelated in every way to Xenogears and Xenosaga.
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| # ? Apr 12, 2012 02:31 |
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Man, I really liked Reyn before, but he just catapulted himself straight into "totally awesome" territory!  He just made a totally sweet catch in the Ether Mines. Man! So cool. It's Reyn time all the time, baby!
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| # ? Apr 12, 2012 02:45 |
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Melia is the best character accept no substitute  Seriously how can one character be so fun to play aaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA  Am I the only one who can't play Reyn correctly? Every other character, I'm good at figuring out whatever their niche is (even Melia, despite her being the most technically demanding character to play by far) - but with Reyn, I can't hold aggro, can't status, and can't output the deeps. I just feel useless when I play Reyn, usually while Shulk gets loving destroyed.
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| # ? Apr 12, 2012 03:01 |
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In that one scene after the ether mines where Dunban shows up, I actually cheered, "Dunban!" out loud and scared my dog. This game rocks so hard.
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| # ? Apr 12, 2012 03:08 |
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I'm at (late game spoiler?) Sword Valley and am I underleveled? I'm trying to fight Mumkhar and his Face mechons but they're 48 and he's 52 while my party is only level 46. Odd because even with just doing the story I was evenly leveled and now the bosses' levels are skyrocketing. Is there a gimmick I'm missing or am I going to actually have to grind?
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Lakbay posted:I'm at (late game spoiler?) Sword Valley and am I underleveled? I'm trying to fight Mumkhar and his Face mechons but they're 48 and he's 52 while my party is only level 46. Odd because even with just doing the story I was evenly leveled and now the bosses' levels are skyrocketing. Is there a gimmick I'm missing or am I going to actually have to grind? Yeah, you might want to do SOME sidequests. Have you not even done the ones that auto complete? You should be around level 50-52 at that spot.
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| # ? Apr 12, 2012 03:36 |
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I've only done sidequests that autocomplete while on my way to story objectives. I decided to just go back and grind on the stuff in the area I'm in since there's a couple of quests with higher level stuff.
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| # ? Apr 12, 2012 03:38 |
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I'm way early and about to head to Colony 6 and Reyn is starting to have some difficulty holding aggro. I've had him in defense improving gear and gemming for defense as well. Should I give him some dps gear instead or gem for strength?
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Superstring posted:I'm way early and about to head to Colony 6 and Reyn is starting to have some difficulty holding aggro. I've had him in defense improving gear and gemming for defense as well. Should I give him some dps gear instead or gem for strength? It might be hard at that stage but once you start getting double slotted equipment I found it really helpful to go one defense and one aggro gem for Reyn.
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played for an hour or so. i couldn't find a way to change resolution so the game runs in letterbox view on my 4:3 television. combined with the screen being fuzzy for some reason, it's hard to read the text sometimes, or more importantly what buttons you're being told to press in order to do things. If anyone has suggestions for either of these options I'd appreciate it (My GameCube worked fine with all the games I played on this TV with) aside from that rubbish it's probably too early to give an impression yet, I'm liking the general feel of the game at least. looking forward to going exploring
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