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Thundercracker
Jun 25, 2004

Proudly serving the Ruinous Powers since as a veteran of the long war.


The thing about Louie is that he's clearly a flawed human, but self-aware and old enough to try to muddle through life the best he could. Most of his episodes is about him or his friends experiencing real adult sorrows, and has something to say about said sorrows. The characters in this are just clueless and self-absorbed.

The thing is Louie is actually a morality play on most levels, whereas this really is more of the same navel gazing hipster nonsense [I live in Williamsburg, so this is neither new or interesting to me].

Also, there's that whole Nepotism bit. Louie has actually had to eat bitters and pay his dues to stay in New York. It's his story. The actresses here are just pretending to be broke and directionless, which while not a crime, certainly doesn't measure to up to Louie in the "Telling truths" department.

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Thundercracker
Jun 25, 2004

Proudly serving the Ruinous Powers since as a veteran of the long war.


SpaceMost posted:

The dead boyfriend comments seemed really out of place. Hannah is pretty groan-worthy but those lines really didn't seem to fit.

As for her reading, I think there was more. They just wanted to emphasize that she was dying on-stage like her boyfriend in the story.

Hannah is what happens when a roommate gets too comfortable and starts taking things for granted. I used to have a very Hannah-esque roommate and things got so pathetic that we had to institute a chore wheel to make sure things got cleaned, and threaten to charge his girlfriend rent because they were Honeymooning pretty hard and she was basically living out of his bedroom for a few weeks.

Hanna is the gooniest goon. She's the kind of post in E/N that pops up every week, except instead of living in her parent's basement she's living in the most expensive city in America.

Which makes her consumption habits a bit outrageous. Those 5 cupakes she ate in the first episode probably came out to $25-$30.

Thundercracker
Jun 25, 2004

Proudly serving the Ruinous Powers since as a veteran of the long war.


I'm honestly 10x more grossed out by the Mindy Show than Girls. Mindy's show is so much more grotesque in coveting white privelege and Mindy wanting to be white that I'm blowing away no one really criticizes the show more. She lives in a lily white New York, only dates white guys, and has actual racist jokes on her show.

What I'm saying really is that just having a minority lead isn't a magic bullet. At the very least, Season 1 of Girls treated the girls as completely clueless Seinfeld type gross people. Mindy is treated as the hero of her show.

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Thundercracker
Jun 25, 2004

Proudly serving the Ruinous Powers since as a veteran of the long war.


ONEMANWOLFPACK posted:

I don't really know where I'm going this. But I do know that Lena Dunham isn't really doing my generation any favors with this show. She is showing that we can't get employment, and we don't deserve it. She may have gone to college, but she still needs to grow up.

Do you have a problem with Arrested Development, Seinfeld, or Curb Your Enthusiasm? I really do believe that a lot of people are missing the point in that these are just awful awful people, but there's a genre of TV about awful people doing awful things that are nevertheless funny.

Of course she's not doing our generation any favors, I see the show as primary a comedy with incidental character growths. I find it hilarious because while I don't know any rich con artist families, or deranged old Jews personally, I do know people like the girls on Girls. They aren't the majority of the young people I know, but then again it's a comedy, and there's little humor in mining a show about young people with jobs, trying to make normal relationships work, and dealing with mundane life bullshit, which is what 90% of us do.

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