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No1throwdown posted:Ooh Korra is definitely Teen-YA geared but I'm not sure under 12s would dig a politics shipping episode with a heavy creepy ending. Like I said, Harry Potter. v  v
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| # ? Apr 30, 2012 21:01 |
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No1throwdown posted:Ooh Korra is definitely Teen-YA geared but I'm not sure under 12s would dig a politics shipping episode with a heavy creepy ending. Why? Like, kids loved Batman TAS and Harry Potter and poo poo. Sure maybe some six year old doesn't grasp the connotations of one council member trying to expand his influence but they did a clear enough job of showing 'ok this guy may be wanting the good things, but it's clear he also is being selfish about it' and in my limited experience with kids through my little cousins and all, kids loving love creepy points of their shows. My little niece lost her poo poo for the Equalist ambush scene and was left really wanting to see what Amon's 'big plan' is, so that's a goal achieved right there.
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| # ? Apr 30, 2012 21:07 |
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We haven't seen anybody wielding swords or bows in this show so far. I suppose this is to make the 1920s theme seem more consistent, but it begs the question of what the non-benders use to fight. I guess everyone has to learn how to chi-block because guns and knives don't exist in Republic City.
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| # ? Apr 30, 2012 21:41 |
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I hope Tarlok really is a well meaning (albeit power-hungry) douchebag, rather than secretly evil/corrupt. The latter would be too cliche.
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| # ? Apr 30, 2012 21:43 |
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Baron Bifford posted:We haven't seen anybody wielding swords or bows in this show so far. I suppose this is to make the 1920s theme seem more consistent, but it begs the question of what the non-benders use to fight. I guess everyone has to learn how to chi-block because guns and knives don't exist in Nickelodeon. People probably do have knives and guns, but the problem that I think we've already discussed is that Nickelodeon is ok with showing outlandish things like Chinese swords, cannons, and dirks because kids will probably never be able to get their hands on those IRL, unlike, say, a butterfly knife, switchblade, or gun. Just assume they have them and accept you're not going to see them, that the creators have worked around this before and they'll be able to find a creative way of showing it without showing it (maybe a person with a gunshot wound and no gun, and no concrete mention of the gun, just "they got him")
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| # ? Apr 30, 2012 21:51 |
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Cicero posted:I hope Tarlok really is a well meaning (albeit power-hungry) douchebag, rather than secretly evil/corrupt. The latter would be too cliche. Yeah, he's been kinda douchey, but not actively malevolent yet. It'd be yet another layer of wonderful moral ambiguity/story-crafting!
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| # ? Apr 30, 2012 22:18 |
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visceril posted:though that's not entirely true, since iirc a thief pulled a knife on Iroh in "Tales of Ba Sing Se". Wasn't Mai/Mei/May's main form of fighting knife throwing?
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| # ? Apr 30, 2012 22:45 |
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ImpAtom posted:I think you kind of underestimate what children can put up with. Different strokes and etc etc.
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| # ? Apr 30, 2012 23:11 |
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Arbitrary Coin posted:Yeah, he's been kinda douchey, but not actively malevolent yet. It'd be yet another layer of wonderful moral ambiguity/story-crafting!
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| # ? Apr 30, 2012 23:22 |
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Cicero posted:Basically I want him to be a light-side narcissist. That's what I'm sort of figuring right now. He's a glory hound that figures the equalists are a threat to be beaten down and he'll be a hero for spearheading it and saving bending with the help of the new Avatar. I might be wrong and there could be some twist, but an ambitious but short-sighted politician making a move for personal glory that coincidentally serves to legitimize the Equalists seems a reasonable sort of character in a story like this.
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| # ? Apr 30, 2012 23:32 |
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So do you guys think we'll get another Avatar after this? I mean maybe it's too early to be asking but the thought of a 21st century Avatar... This thought alone kinda leads me to believe that bending will leave the world and Korra is going to be the last Avatar.
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| # ? Apr 30, 2012 23:34 |
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My son is three, and Korra is the only thing he has never said no to, including candy. He's actually probably a little too young to know to be scared of stuff like this, though.
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| # ? Apr 30, 2012 23:37 |
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Orange_Lazarus posted:So do you guys think we'll get another Avatar after this? I mean maybe it's too early to be asking but the thought of a 21st century Avatar... This thought alone kinda leads me to believe that bending will leave the world and Korra is going to be the last Avatar. Well there's going to be season 2 and they wrote season 1 not knowing whether there was going to be any more so they wrote it as a complete arc with a resolution. Totally depends on whether Nickelodeon wants more and whether the creators want to keep doing it after 2 is done though.
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| # ? Apr 30, 2012 23:44 |
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I believe someone might have requested these. 
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| # ? Apr 30, 2012 23:48 |
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Tarlok reminds me very much of Long Feng, he does't want to take over the world, dude just wants to be in charge. And for that matter, as far as we know that council was only 2 benders, we can't really say for the rest just because they were wearing their nations garb. The Earth King wasn't an earthbender. It's probably a good bet that they are benders, but you can't say for sure  (unless it's somewhere in that Republic City info page)
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Why does each Water Tribe get a representative on this council and all of the Earth Kingdoms, which I always assumed were a confederation of city-states since at least two of them had a "King," only get one?
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| # ? May 1, 2012 00:05 |
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Tarlokk mentioned "all us benders" or something when he addressed the council. It's possible he was referring to "all us" in a general sense that includes himself and others like him and not those specifically in the room at the moment, but I didn't really get that impression. I got the impression he was playing the bender solidarity card right then with his fellow council members.
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Sanguinia posted:Why does each Water Tribe get a representative on this council and all of the Earth Kingdoms, which I always assumed were a confederation of city-states since at least two of them had a "King," only get one? Doubtlessly the reality of the war had ruined any co-ordinated hierarchy at that point but I assumed that Bumi was assigned King of Omashu while still being under the authority of the Earth king. Most of the Earth Kingdom was unified under Chin so while it probably fragmented since then, it isn't fully explained. quote:The exact governmental structure of the Earth Kingdom being unknown, it is ambiguous exactly how Omashu is connected to, let alone controlled by, the Earth King or the imperial government. It is known that the city is ruled by a king who exercises absolute rule over his subjects. It is unknown whether the kingship is hereditary or is decided by some other means. It is also unknown if the king exercises any control outside the city, such as nearby vassal lands and villages. So yeah, literally whatever you want to think.
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The council is oddly favored towards Air and Water for a former Fire colony in the Earth Kingdom. I wonder if that will be addressed.Orange_Lazarus posted:So do you guys think we'll get another Avatar after this? I mean maybe it's too early to be asking but the thought of a 21st century Avatar... This thought alone kinda leads me to believe that bending will leave the world and Korra is going to be the last Avatar. If they do more stories about a different Avatar I hope it's in the past, like with one of the first Avatars and very early versions of each Nation so the world can be fresh again. Cyborg Benders could change my mind though.
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| # ? May 1, 2012 00:35 |
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QueerPope posted:Wasn't Mai/Mei/May's main form of fighting knife throwing?
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| # ? May 1, 2012 00:53 |
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I was always waiting for Mai to throw a knife an inch too low and get a guy in the arm instead of his sleeve. "I am so sorry!"
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| # ? May 1, 2012 00:57 |
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I really wanted someone to ask her about it and for her to shrug and go "Eh, too much effort to kill someone. All that mess and cleanup. This is simpler."
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| # ? May 1, 2012 00:59 |
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I'm still wrapping my head around Tarlok literally leading that SWAT style raid. It's like Arnie kept in shape and every time there's a drug bust he's literally on the front page in full gear smiling winningly at the cameras. It's, well, oddly charismatic. Tarlok is conniving, is into political power, but he's evidently no coward.
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Orange_Lazarus posted:So do you guys think we'll get another Avatar after this? I mean maybe it's too early to be asking but the thought of a 21st century Avatar... This thought alone kinda leads me to believe that bending will leave the world and Korra is going to be the last Avatar. I was thinking about a third Avatar series, and both the best and worst decade for it would be an equivalent to the 1980's. After the events of TLoK, the power dynamic of benders/nons has been reversed. There is some sort of spiritual sickness communicable via bending (performing or being touched by bent elements). The Avatar of this era is an earthbender who grew up in Republic City, coming from a broken and abusive home. He is an inversion of Korra the way Korra was an inversion of Aang. He is disinterested in being the Avatar, and considers it unimportant to who he is. He's a gambler and thief without any real roots, never settling down, which makes bending for him harder because he has trouble even with his native element, earth. Sort of an unscrupulous air nomad. The White Lotus agents have to get him to own up to his responsibility as the Avatar and solve the spiritual epidemic. You'd have 80's inspired fashion and music, an AIDS metaphor, and another Avatar that's the opposite of their predecessor without being similar to the one that came before. I know we won't see it, but I think it'd be cool.
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| # ? May 1, 2012 01:38 |
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The official stream of episode 4 has finally gone up.
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| # ? May 1, 2012 01:39 |
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M.c.P posted:I'm still wrapping my head around Tarlok literally leading that SWAT style raid. It's like Arnie kept in shape and every time there's a drug bust he's literally on the front page in full gear smiling winningly at the cameras. It's, well, oddly charismatic. Tarlok is conniving, is into political power, but he's evidently no coward. That's the interesting bit. The way he strong-armed Korra into joining his force and publicly standing by his side, you figure it had to be a power play. But at the end of it, he was a part of the task force himself, and Korra even gave him props for his skills.
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| # ? May 1, 2012 01:41 |
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Has anyone else had trouble watching the episodes online? I can watch the clips fine, but none of the full episodes will load.
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blurry! posted:I was thinking about a third Avatar series, and both the best and worst decade for it would be an equivalent to the 1980's. After the events of TLoK, the power dynamic of benders/nons has been reversed. There is some sort of spiritual sickness communicable via bending (performing or being touched by bent elements). The Avatar of this era is an earthbender who grew up in Republic City, coming from a broken and abusive home. He is an inversion of Korra the way Korra was an inversion of Aang. He is disinterested in being the Avatar, and considers it unimportant to who he is. He's a gambler and thief without any real roots, never settling down, which makes bending for him harder because he has trouble even with his native element, earth. Sort of an unscrupulous air nomad. The White Lotus agents have to get him to own up to his responsibility as the Avatar and solve the spiritual epidemic. While I don't know about all of this--especially the weird disease thing--I have to say the idea of a modern or modern-ish Avatar is really exciting. You don't see that kind of progression in fantasy very often. Off the top of my head, I can think of Avatar as one, and the Mistborn series of books by Brandon Sanderson as another. That's about it. As far as the latter goes, the author has said he'd like to do two more trilogies, one set in a modern-day analogue, and the other far future. He's already written one trilogy in an early or pre-industrial society, and a standalone in the Wild West. It owns. And so does Avatar.
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M.c.P posted:I'm still wrapping my head around Tarlok literally leading that SWAT style raid. It's like Arnie kept in shape and every time there's a drug bust he's literally on the front page in full gear smiling winningly at the cameras. It's, well, oddly charismatic. Tarlok is conniving, is into political power, but he's evidently no coward. He brought overwhelming numerical and martial force (including the most powerful individual on the planet) against people still learning how to fight. That's pretty cowardly in my book. Acebuckeye13 posted:Has anyone else had trouble watching the episodes online? I can watch the clips fine, but none of the full episodes will load. For some reason episode 2 is super blurry and fuzzy for me
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The Collector posted:stolen from plethoraofkorra Adult Sokka looks so awesome. I bet Hakoda is proud
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I really can't see an 80's version of Avatar where the "inequalities between non-benders and benders have reversed" because the 80's were all about inequality. Although I really liked what you did with the whole disinterested youth/disinterested avatar thing. I agree with the person who said they would like to see the story of a past Avatar. Edit: gently caress I hope they can keep this up forever. There is a lot of potential in the Avatar universe, this poo poo could be bigger than Harry Potter.
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| # ? May 1, 2012 01:55 |
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Honestly, I'd love the story of the very first Avatar. I'd like to see which element they would be, the reason they were given the gift and what threat was so dangerous it needed that level of power.
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| # ? May 1, 2012 01:57 |
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SteelAngel2000 posted:Adult Sokka looks so awesome. Yeah just look at his face!  Oh he's dead..
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| # ? May 1, 2012 02:07 |
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 Korra vs the Equalists
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| # ? May 1, 2012 02:11 |
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ConfusedUs posted:While I don't know about all of this--especially the weird disease thing--I have to say the idea of a modern or modern-ish Avatar is really exciting. yeah the disease thing is just a weird shoehorned way to have an AIDS metaphor (it's the 80's!!!) that I didn't spend more than 10 minutes thinking on. I think the chracterization of the following avatar is what I'd like to see most, though.
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| # ? May 1, 2012 02:11 |
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No1throwdown posted:Ooh Korra is definitely Teen-YA geared but I'm not sure under 12s would dig a politics shipping episode with a heavy creepy ending. My step brother is 9, I started him on avatar last year, and he loves Korra so far.
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| # ? May 1, 2012 02:14 |
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OldTennisCourt posted:Honestly, I'd love the story of the very first Avatar. I'd like to see which element they would be, the reason they were given the gift and what threat was so dangerous it needed that level of power. Given how one of the central themes of this series is Korra's lack of spirituality and balance, a fable or story about the first one would be appropriate and tantalizing.
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| # ? May 1, 2012 02:16 |
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SmokyWings posted:
There's some pretty creative ideas in here. Even though it took me forever to figure out what was happening, I still think the last one's the best though.
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| # ? May 1, 2012 02:19 |
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Just wanted to say that, thanks to this thread, I finally sat down and watched Avatar. I was very impressed, and really had a fun time. I'm looking forward to introducing my young cousins to it, since I know they haven't seen it. Korra's shaping up pretty great too.
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Solaris Knight posted:Given how one of the central themes of this series is Korra's lack of spirituality and balance, a fable or story about the first one would be appropriate and tantalizing. Did we ever get any solid answers about that anyway? The turtle just implied about times before the Avatar right?
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