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thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005



No it doesn't work for me either. Stupid Nickelodeon, they aren't even putting the show on until November apparently.

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Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010


Quackenbush posted:

So if Tenzin is 51 and the new series takes place 70 years after the old, Katara had him when she was 33? That seems a bit old for a first kid in this universe

Isn't he the youngest?

Quackenbush
Nov 4, 2011

by Y Kant Ozma Post


Charlz Guybon posted:

Isn't he the youngest?

Oops, yeah, you're right

Triskelli
Sep 26, 2011

JACKPOT


Quackenbush posted:

So if Tenzin is 51 and the new series takes place 70 years after the old, Katara had him when she was 33? That seems a bit old for a first kid in this universe

Nope, other way around: Tenzin is the youngest of Aang and Katara's three kids.


Also, for all the posts regarding pedo-Tenzin pimpin'-Tenzin, well... As the final remaining mature airbender, he does have a duty to repopulate.

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART


Those years between learning their first kid wasn't an Airbender and Tenzin's bending being discovered must have been a really difficult time for Aang and Katara, with the whole Air Nomad culture and the future of the Avatar cycle hanging on a thread, depending entirely on chance.

Pakled fucked around with this message at Apr 13, 2012 around 17:16

SpiderHyphenMan
Mar 31, 2010
Sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night in a sweat as unknown to me, in my sleep I have managed to tune my ear to the frequency of despair, and crossreference by the longitude and latitude of a heart in agony.
SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT ONE MORE DAY ALREADY!


Triskelli posted:

Also, for all the posts regarding pedo-Tenzin pimpin'-Tenzin, well... As the final remaining mature airbender, he does have a duty to repopulate.
Okay please shut up.

Pakled posted:

Those years between learning his first kid wasn't an Airbender and Tenzin's bending being discovered must have been a really difficult time for Aang, with his whole culture and the future of the Avatar cycle hanging on a thread, depending entirely on chance.
This is an interesting point let's maybe talk about this instead.

LadySage
Dec 26, 2005

AA: i am very much alive
AA: and i intend to stay that way


I feel a bit bad for Bumi, the non-bending kid. What do you think that would be like, growing up in a family like that and being unable to bend? It would be like growing up with a math disability in a family of PhD mathematicians.

Triskelli
Sep 26, 2011

JACKPOT


SpiderHyphenMan posted:

Okay please shut up.

Sorry.

In more speculative news, the interview with Korra's VA says this:

quote:

As with the original series, there are some really interesting philosophical questions that are being raised about "Us versus Them" and bullying and "How important is it being special?" and "Do you set yourself apart too much?" -- things like that.

The bit about bullying is an interesting addition, since it's rarely called that outside of a school environment/relationship. Could Tezin's kids be sent to elementary school? I know this is epililectic tree territory here, but I could totally see that happening.

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005


LadySage posted:

I feel a bit bad for Bumi, the non-bending kid. What do you think that would be like, growing up in a family like that and being unable to bend? It would be like growing up with a math disability in a family of PhD mathematicians.

Not when you have an aunt and uncle like Aang's kids would have (I'm just assuming Sokka and Suki stuck together). You'd probably have them hanging around along with the Kyoshi warriors, Mai and Ty Lee showing you don't have to be able to bend to be a badass.

Funkz
May 7, 2007

I'm the Avatar! You gotta deal with it!


thebardyspoon posted:

Not when you have an aunt and uncle like Aang's kids would have (I'm just assuming Sokka and Suki stuck together). You'd probably have them hanging around along with the Kyoshi warriors, Mai and Ty Lee showing you don't have to be able to bend to be a badass.

I have some bad news for you. The Promise Part 2 spoilers http://maiko-love.deviantart.com/jo...dness-295452354

RyuujinBlueZ
Oct 9, 2007

WHAT DID YOU DO?!


I haven't seen it mentioned in this thread, but what's going to be the best way to get this? I don't have cable, so that's obviously out. It looks like it's up on iTunes, Amazon, and Xbox Live. 30 bucks for the season on iTunes, no idea for Amazon, and 2400 points (~$24?) on Live. Obviously then Live seems like the best for cost, but which of those three is most likely to get new episodes the quickest? Anybody know? If anyone has any ideas on how much Amazon might charge too, that'd be great. I could toss Korra on my Fire for on-the-go bending.

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

This is easily the funniest page of any of these threads.


Quackenbush posted:

So if Tenzin is 51 and the new series takes place 70 years after the old, Katara had him when she was 33? That seems a bit old for a first kid in this universe
I think he's the youngest child.

Razorwired
Dec 7, 2008

How dare you masquerade as Limbo Royalty!

Funkz posted:

I have some bad news for you. The Promise Part 2 spoilers http://maiko-love.deviantart.com/jo...dness-295452354

Even still you know if it was ever an issue this conversation happened:

Bumi: Uncle Sokka, how do you deal with it? My mother is perhaps the greatest water bender alive. My dad's the friggin' Avatar. Kya's bending is getting stronger every day and even my stupid little brother is showing signs of airbending. They have all these amazing gifts that make them special and I'm just kind of the normal guy, you know?

Sokka: Did I ever tell you about the time I destroyed five zeppelins full of Fire Nation invaders?

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005


Are there any really good extras on the US DVDs of Avatar? Might import if they're good enough to be worth it, the UK ones are just the barebones book collections but they're pretty cheap right now it seems.

indigi
Jul 20, 2004


Why wouldn't Aang just spirit-bend up some new airbenders or something.

Alpha Kenny Juan
Apr 11, 2007


While driving home from work I was listening to the radio and NPR's All Things Considered did a clip about Korra and Avatar:TLA in general.

e: Audio will be available at approx. 7:00 p.m. ET if you're interested.

Alpha Kenny Juan fucked around with this message at Apr 13, 2012 around 22:22

SirKibbles
Feb 27, 2011

MY POLITICAL OPINIONS AND ICE-BURNS MAY SEEM OVERSIMPLIFIED AND CHILDISH DUE TO MY BROKEN RETARD GRAMMAR BUT DON'T WORRY THEY'RE COMPLETELY IDIOTIC JUVENILIA TO BEGIN WITH

indigi posted:

Why wouldn't Aang just spirit-bend up some new airbenders or something.

I legit thought that if all the Airbenders died the elements would balance themselves out and random Airbenders would start popping up.

I think it was something Iroh said

Baron Bifford
May 24, 2006


If that was the case then the Avatar wouldn't be necessary (or at least not so critical). I think it was made pretty clear at several points in the original cartoon that if Aang didn't triumph the world would be irrevocably damaged.

indigi
Jul 20, 2004


Alpha Kenny Juan posted:

While driving home from work I was listening to the radio and NPR's All Things Considered did a clip about Korra and Avatar:TLA in general.

e: Audio will be available at approx. 7:00 p.m. ET if you're interested.
Are any of the VAs in it, specifically Maria Bamford or Janet Varney

Baron Bifford
May 24, 2006


Alpha Kenny Juan posted:

While driving home from work I was listening to the radio and NPR's All Things Considered did a clip about Korra and Avatar:TLA in general.

e: Audio will be available at approx. 7:00 p.m. ET if you're interested.

Some Nickelodeon executives were worried, says Konietzko, about backing an animated action show with a female lead character. Conventional TV wisdom has it that girls will watch shows about boys, but boys won't watch shows about girls.

During test screenings, though, boys said they didn't care that Korra was a girl. They just said she was awesome.


The lead character may be female, but the show is very masculine in design. It's all about conflict and fulfilling ambition. Even the lead character herself has macho tendencies. She's so aggressive that her male mentors actually struggle to teach her indirection and restraint.

SpiderHyphenMan
Mar 31, 2010
Sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night in a sweat as unknown to me, in my sleep I have managed to tune my ear to the frequency of despair, and crossreference by the longitude and latitude of a heart in agony.
SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT ONE MORE DAY ALREADY!


Baron Bifford posted:

Some Nickelodeon executives were worried, says Konietzko, about backing an animated action show with a female lead character. Conventional TV wisdom has it that girls will watch shows about boys, but boys won't watch shows about girls.

During test screenings, though, boys said they didn't care that Korra was a girl. They just said she was awesome.


The lead character may be female, but the show is very masculine in design. It's all about conflict and fulfilling ambition. Even the lead character herself has macho tendencies. She's so aggressive that her male mentors actually struggle to teach her indirection and restraint.
Since when is fulfilling ambition "masculine"?
Also, I doubt boys are gonna care about Korra being A GURL even when she starts swooning over Mako.
gently caress conventional wisdom. The reason boys don't like girl characters isn't because they don't like girls, it's because 99% of girl characters in kids shows have absolutely no personality beyond "IS A GIRL".

Luminous Obscurity
Jan 10, 2007

what the hot mess of fresh fuck am i looking at


SpiderHyphenMan posted:

The reason boys don't like girl characters isn't because they don't like girls, it's because 99% of girl characters in kids shows have absolutely no personality beyond "IS A GIRL".

Word.

There's this weird idea among writers and executives that FEMALE CHARACTERS are completely different than 'regular characters.'

Small White Dragon
Nov 23, 2007

No relation.

Charlz Guybon posted:

Pretty sure she'll only have water bender kids, unless she ends up with a bender of a different element.

After all Aang's kids were a water bender, a normal, and an air bender. No earth or fire bender despite the fact that he could use those elements.
Was the water bender the oldest, and the non-bender the middle one?



QueerPope posted:

Not the Lion-Turtle, although he's more of a living island than a spirit. He's also a little too omniscient to show up until another finale. (I know we're done with the Spirit/Energy bending topic but I think it's not that only the avatar can do it but rather that it's an ability lost to the world except to the Lion-Turtle, who was so old that he could give it to Aang for the purpose of saving the world.)

I just finished my rewatching of the original series and I kept noticing so many things that are probably going to happen in Korra because of recurring stuff from TLA. I'm really looking forward to it. I wrote up my huge theories but realized they were all really just explaining the obvious in an over-complicated way.
If they were to re-use this...

What would be the best way (in this universe) to deal with a bunch of anti-benders?

Make them benders.

SpiderHyphenMan
Mar 31, 2010
Sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night in a sweat as unknown to me, in my sleep I have managed to tune my ear to the frequency of despair, and crossreference by the longitude and latitude of a heart in agony.
SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT ONE MORE DAY ALREADY!


Small White Dragon posted:

Was the water bender the oldest, and the non-bender the middle one?

If they were to re-use this...

What would be the best way (in this universe) to deal with a bunch of anti-benders?

Make them benders.
No way will energybending solve the big moral dilemma of BOTH Aang and Korra's stories.

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~


Small White Dragon posted:

What would be the best way (in this universe) to deal with a bunch of anti-benders?

Make them benders.

Or you could just talk to them. Which has the advantage of being easier and not setting a precedent where the answer to a tough issue is to magically solve it by making it no longer an issue.

Edit: It took me rereading that to realise that the original show already set that precedent, so I'm going to eat those words and instead just hope that the creators set the bar higher this time and don't set up a tough situation just so that they can spend most of the show ignoring it and then magically solving it.

tsob fucked around with this message at Apr 14, 2012 around 00:49

canned_fruit
Feb 4, 2008


Razorwired posted:

Sokka: Did I ever tell you about the time I destroyed five zeppelins full of Fire Nation invaders?

"Wow uncle how did you do it!?"

"Well, my friend Toph earthbended(bent?) us up into the air onto one of the zeppelins. She then used metal bending to single handedly take out the entire cockpit so we could commandeer the zeppelin. After crashing our zeppelin into a bunch of others Toph used metal bending to destroy another zeppelin. After breaking my leg and losing my sword and boomerang Suki saved us."

"Oh."

Triskelli
Sep 26, 2011

JACKPOT


canned_fruit posted:

"Oh."

"But the whole thing was my idea, so I get the credit for it!"

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

MUNCH
MUNCH
MUNCH
MUNCH
MUNCH


Funkz posted:

I have some bad news for you. The Promise Part 2 spoilers http://maiko-love.deviantart.com/jo...dness-295452354

Is that a comic tie-in or something?

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

This is easily the funniest page of any of these threads.


Aphrodite posted:

Is that a comic tie-in or something?
Yeah. The writers are either playing an elaborate practical joke or have no idea whatsoever how to write a human romantic relationship, but other than that it's pretty good.

SpiderHyphenMan
Mar 31, 2010
Sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night in a sweat as unknown to me, in my sleep I have managed to tune my ear to the frequency of despair, and crossreference by the longitude and latitude of a heart in agony.
SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT ONE MORE DAY ALREADY!


CapnAndy posted:

Yeah. The writers are either playing an elaborate practical joke or have no idea whatsoever how to write a human romantic relationship, but other than that it's pretty good.
I consider "The Promise" to be the mouthwash an alcoholic drinks when he's out of actual booze. I thought it was really good when I read it like 2 months ago, but now that Korra's here, I'm a lot more aware that it was not at all a worthy follow-up to Avatar, especially after it ended with such a perfect finale, and I do mean perfect.


...I'm still going to buy it, because at least the Zuko part is pretty interesting, and it's only 12 bucks.

Quackenbush
Nov 4, 2011

by Y Kant Ozma Post


The relationship isnt bad when you remember the ages of the participants. Of course the real problem is that Aang and Katara weren't made a year older at least from the beginning if they were going to do a romance subplot, but what're you gonna do.

Dr.Oblivious
Jan 17, 2010


Oh man, why did I have to spoil myself and watch the first two episodes on Nick.com, now I'm not going to be able to wait two whole weeks for a new episode to come out.

lelandjs
Feb 18, 2011

Lets see... what shall I post today?


Dr.Oblivious posted:

Oh man, why did I have to spoil myself and watch the first two episodes on Nick.com, now I'm not going to be able to wait two whole weeks for a new episode to come out.

One week, actually. They're airing the first two episodes tomorrow.

Serella
Apr 24, 2008

Is that what you're posting?


Funkz posted:

I have some bad news for you. The Promise Part 2 spoilers http://maiko-love.deviantart.com/jo...dness-295452354

Non-Korra-related:

You know, I really always wanted to like Mai. Like Ty Lee and Suki, she's a non-bender who manages to hold her own (and then some) against benders. She just never has any really poignant or meaningful moments until the Boiling Rock, when the show is really almost over. You get these little hints, like when Azula denied the trade of King Bumi to get her baby brother back and Mai gave her an evil side-eye, but overall she was mostly just "the sullen teenage girl who doesn't want to do anything" so she didn't get much character, which was kind of pitifully explained away by my parents' expectations. By the time she throws herself under the bus to save Zuko, you don't even really care. She's basically just a plot device at that point, same as the Yu Yan archers were, and they promptly disappeared in Season 1 after the single episode in which they were needed.

I really hope they'll actually do something interesting with her in The Promise.

Classtoise
Feb 11, 2008

Classy Tortoise Chap

Razorwired posted:

Even still you know if it was ever an issue this conversation happened:

Bumi: Uncle Sokka, how do you deal with it? My mother is perhaps the greatest water bender alive. My dad's the friggin' Avatar. Kya's bending is getting stronger every day and even my stupid little brother is showing signs of airbending. They have all these amazing gifts that make them special and I'm just kind of the normal guy, you know?

Sokka: Did I ever tell you about the time I destroyed five zeppelins full of Fire Nation invaders?

I like to imagine Sokka tells that story whenever anyone else tells a story about their bending.

"Well, I had to blow the hot air of the volcano away..."
"That's great, Aang, but did I ever tell you guys how I destroyed an entire fleet of Fire Nation war zeppelins without bending?"

SpiderHyphenMan
Mar 31, 2010
Sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night in a sweat as unknown to me, in my sleep I have managed to tune my ear to the frequency of despair, and crossreference by the longitude and latitude of a heart in agony.
SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT ONE MORE DAY ALREADY!


Classtoise posted:

I like to imagine Sokka tells that story whenever anyone else tells a story about their bending.

"Well, I had to blow the hot air of the volcano away..."
"That's great, Aang, but did I ever tell you guys how I destroyed an entire fleet of Fire Nation war zeppelins without bending?"
"Did I mention that I directly led to the scientific breakthrough that eventually resulted in the very creation of said zeppelins?"

blurry!
Jun 14, 2006

Sorry for Party Flocking


I think it'd be a pretty awesome troll if Sokka, Space Sword, and Boomerang weren't mentioned once in Korra. Imagine the wailing and gnashing of teeth.

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

This is easily the funniest page of any of these threads.


Funkz posted:

I have some bad news for you. The Promise Part 2 spoilers http://maiko-love.deviantart.com/jo...dness-295452354
Aren't those all from part 1? I think I saw them all. If I'm remembering right, the context is Mai, along with pretty much everyone else, is misinterpreting Zuko's actions and is mad at him (Zuko is, as always, the Bad At Explanations Lord). Suki, meanwhile, is offering her services as a bodyguard, which Zuko badly needs because dudes keep trying to kill him. She's reaching out to him as a friend because the dude badly needs a friend and the rest of the extended Gaang is not getting what he's up to and is mad at him for it.

Razorwired
Dec 7, 2008

How dare you masquerade as Limbo Royalty!

blurry! posted:

I think it'd be a pretty awesome troll if Sokka, Space Sword, and Boomerang weren't mentioned once in Korra. Imagine the wailing and gnashing of teeth.

It would be on par with old Katara getting cut off after saying the story of Ursa and Zuko was epic and full of surprising twists.

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Baron Bifford
May 24, 2006


SpiderHyphenMan posted:

The reason boys don't like girl characters isn't because they don't like girls, it's because 99% of girl characters in kids shows have absolutely no personality beyond "IS A GIRL".
This would not apply to girl-oriented shows, where the mostly female cast are given distinct personalities. You cannot apply this logic to the characters in My Little Pony or Strawberry Shortcake.

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