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Fried Chicken
Jan 9, 2011

dont fry me im no chicken


The brothers at least have a stake in the outcome now. Their home was just destroyed, except for Pabu they would have been killed, they lost their source of income, and had they won the tournament like they expected they would have lost their bending.

Pretty good list of reasons to throw down now.

I'm wondering where they will live, Air Temple Island would make for some interesting developments, but being back on the streets could let them show more of the seedier side of Republic City. And of course Asami could bail them out.


By the way, Bill Rinaldi has been updating Tumblr. They have all of season 2 scripted and storyboarded except the last big fight in the S2 season finale. They are working on that now. No word from Nick about more seasons to him yet. There will be an episode (7) nest week, but then skip a week for Memorial Day.



On that note, Episode 7 preview clip

I like the mocking movie style pronunciation.

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Zeeman
May 8, 2007



Fried Chicken posted:

On that note, Episode 7 preview clip

I like the mocking movie style pronunciation.

Well, they actually got me to feel sorry for Tahno, didn't see that coming

Triskelli
Sep 26, 2011

JACKPOT


Fried Chicken posted:

On that note, Episode 7 preview clip

I like the mocking movie style pronunciation.

God DAMMIT Bryke. Why do you make me feel sad for the living embodiment of ? Now I just want to give Tahno a hug and tell him it's gonna be okay.

Killer robot
Sep 6, 2010

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Fried Chicken posted:

On that note, Episode 7 preview clip

I like the mocking movie style pronunciation.

Well, there goes "and we never see anyone after Amon removes their bending."

SpiderHyphenMan
Mar 31, 2010
Sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night in a sweat as unknown to me, in my sleep I have managed to tune my ear to the frequency of despair, and crossreference by the longitude and latitude of a heart in agony.
SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT ONE MORE DAY ALREADY!


^We saw all three Wolfbats climb out of the pool after their bending had been taken away.

That's some mediocre delivery from Janet Varney in that clip, especially on the line "I'm sorry Amon took your bending away.". I guess it's a testament to the show that the voice acting is usually so spot-on that anything that feels slightly off really stands out.

Yonic Symbolism
Nov 10, 2008



Every cheap and dumb theory for Amon is being disproved rapidly and I enjoy it.
Last episode showed that Amon is not Tenzin.

Triskelli
Sep 26, 2011

JACKPOT


SpiderHyphenMan posted:

^We saw all three Wolfbats climb out of the pool after their bending had been taken away.

That's some mediocre delivery from Janet Varney in that clip, especially on the line "I'm sorry Amon took your bending away.". I guess it's a testament to the show that the voice acting is usually so spot-on that anything that feels slightly off really stands out.

To be honest, the line was a little awkward anyway. I would have chosen a different line entirely, something like "T-tahno! Are you... okay?" I mean honestly, Korra, you wanted to take the guy's head off the night before.

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

The Pink Warrior should just shut up!


Acebuckeye13 posted:

I also agree that Tarrlok is going to be some sort of enemy at some point, possibly in season two. He's got control of the council (Notice how the other members don't even speak, they just vote with him), he's got control of his own extra-judicial task force, and one of the only other authority figures in the city, as well as one of the greatest checks to his power (Lin and her metalbending cops) has just been severely discredited. Guy's accumulating power like nothing else, and it's only a matter of time before he begins to take more overt actions.

So maybe S2 will have Korra trapped between two sides-- ruthless anti-bender revolutionaries on one and a fascist bendocracy on the other? That would be pretty cool. "Heroes on the lam" always makes for a great action plot.

SpiderHyphenMan posted:

^We saw all three Wolfbats climb out of the pool after their bending had been taken away.

That's some mediocre delivery from Janet Varney in that clip, especially on the line "I'm sorry Amon took your bending away.". I guess it's a testament to the show that the voice acting is usually so spot-on that anything that feels slightly off really stands out.

It honestly sounded kind of like she was rubbing it in almost. "So, Tahno, buddy, what'cha gonna do now that you don't have your ~*~bending~*~ anymore, eh, pal? Must be tough when you can't bend anymore, I couldn't imagine what it would be like if I couldn't bend four elements, much less one. Much less none, like you." What I'm saying is that Korra has no social skills, and totally chose like the worst thing to say imaginable.

DrSunshine fucked around with this message at May 15, 2012 around 03:01

Fried Chicken
Jan 9, 2011

dont fry me im no chicken


SpiderHyphenMan posted:

^We saw all three Wolfbats climb out of the pool after their bending had been taken away.

That's some mediocre delivery from Janet Varney in that clip, especially on the line "I'm sorry Amon took your bending away.". I guess it's a testament to the show that the voice acting is usually so spot-on that anything that feels slightly off really stands out.

See, I treated that as her not really meaning it. I mean the night before she was ready to take his head off.

Sato's delivery was very flat to me.

Mixoux
Apr 10, 2008


DrSunshine posted:

So maybe S2 will have Korra trapped between two sides-- ruthless anti-bender revolutionaries on one and a fascist bendocracy on the other? That would be pretty cool. "Heroes on the lam" always makes for a great action plot.

That'd resolve the issue everyone has of "Well maybe Amon is right?? down with the bender capitalist bourgoise" if Tarrlok actually tries grabbing power and takes over the council/police force. Then it'd really get ugly between the two camps.

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

The Pink Warrior should just shut up!


Mixoux posted:

That'd resolve the issue everyone has of "Well maybe Amon is right?? down with the bender capitalist bourgoise" if Tarrlok actually tries grabbing power and takes over the council/police force. Then it'd really get ugly between the two camps.

I just like the word "Bendocracy". A bendocratistic bendocracy, ruled by vicious bendocrats!

ATP_Power
Jun 12, 2010

The mind of man may be a curse, but what would I be without it?


After all the badassery and general awesomeness that Bei-fong kicked out last episode, I really hope she doesn't go crazy authoritarian with her force. They seem pretty drat close already with those zip lines all over the city and their omnipresent zeppelins and with her rhetoric to the council I could see a pretty scary lock down of the city. I bet that Lin's better than that, but I could easily see Tarlok hanging the attack on the arena around her neck and rolling the police into his anti-Amon task force and making a mess all over the place.

Mixoux
Apr 10, 2008


DrSunshine posted:

I just like the word "Bendocracy". A bendocratistic bendocracy, ruled by vicious bendocrats!

I do too, I just wanted to make a communism joke since they're 'equalists' and what not.


ATP_Power posted:

After all the badassery and general awesomeness that Bei-fong kicked out last episode, I really hope she doesn't go crazy authoritarian with her force. They seem pretty drat close already with those zip lines all over the city and their omnipresent zeppelins and with her rhetoric to the council I could see a pretty scary lock down of the city. I bet that Lin's better than that, but I could easily see Tarlok hanging the attack on the arena around her neck and rolling the police into his anti-Amon task force and making a mess all over the place.

I'm going with Tarrlok using the attack to have her removed, given his little quip about her taking full responsibility if anything happened at the match.

Mixoux fucked around with this message at May 15, 2012 around 03:23

Barudak
May 7, 2007

No no, I'm Sean Mexico. You must have me mistaken for someone else.

DrSunshine posted:

I just like the word "Bendocracy". A bendocratistic bendocracy, ruled by vicious bendocrats!

I'm just waiting for Amon to drop the phrases "bendernormative" and "spirit privilege"

Oh Tahno, you're a complete poo poo but your swag never stops. May you be the bender-less ally of the fire-ferrets.

ATP_Power
Jun 12, 2010

The mind of man may be a curse, but what would I be without it?


There is only one true ruler in a Bendocracy.

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

The Pink Warrior should just shut up!


ATP_Power posted:

There is only one true ruler in a Bendocracy.


Glory be to the Hypnotahno.

-- this touches on how much I really dislike that guy's voice. What is wrong with him? It's like his throat is made of jelly! The voice actor did a really great job of making him sound suuuuuper slimy.

canned_fruit
Feb 4, 2008


Yonic Symbolism posted:

Every cheap and dumb theory for Amon is being disproved rapidly and I enjoy it.
Last episode showed that Amon is not Tenzin.

It's okay I've got another stupid theory to make up for them:

Yukon was a firebender who was threatening stability in Republic City. Aang was torn because he wasn't actually doing anything technically wrong yet, he was just using political propaganda etc. to his advantage. His friends (Toph) warned him to deal with Yukon before he got out of hand but he allowed it because of his non-aggressive beliefs.

Yukon eventually did something very bad, like kill someone (actually have we seen/heard about Zuko? Killing the firelord would be a pretty big deal). Aang, angry at Yukon and himself went after him to take his bending away like he did with Ozai. However because he was full of emotion, Yukon beat him in the "energy battle". The effect of that was instead of taking Yukon's firebending, Yukon gained Aang's energybending.

Yukon was dealt with (put in prison/possibly killed), however not before secretly using energybending to gift that power to his son/disciple. Amon inherited Yukon's goal of power and vengeance against the Avatar/benders and has been waiting for Korra to come to Republic City to enact his plan.


I don't know how I feel about the theory despite just making it up. Personally I was in the camp of "Amon uses chi-blocking to fake energybend" but that new clip gives reason to think otherwise. One thing I think is certain is Amon's story about a bender oppressing his father is at the very least an analogy for Aang "oppressing" Yukon.

Sergeant Hobo
Jan 7, 2007



Mixoux posted:

I'm going with Tarrlok using the attack to have her removed, given his little quip about her taking full responsibility if anything happened at the match.

That and/or Lin and Tarrlok disagree about putting Metalbenders on every street corner and raiding suspected Equalist hide-outs. Then again, perhaps it's too early for Tarrlok to play power games with Lin and the Metalbenders; it might be better just to have her be in place and, if nothing changes, Tarrlok would put her on probation for "failing to do her civic duty" or whatever.

Zeeman posted:

Well, they actually got me to feel sorry for Tahno, didn't see that coming

I know. I actually forgot for the length of that clip that he is/was a complete slimeball.

On a side note, with the airing of this last episode, have we seen everything that has been in all the trailers and released clips (minus the episode 7 preview, obviously)? I'm sure someone's done a very analysis to that end and I haven't found it yet.

Willsun
Dec 9, 2006

I willed too hard again...


Surprised no one's gif'd this yet unless I missed it:



I'm also very happy with the level of prickliness kept for Lin Beifong this episode. She warmed up just enough to chat with Tenzin, someone she's known for a long time, without getting terribly sentimental. That and I'm glad she wasn't so stubborn as to not work with Korra during that whole chase battle.

ATP_Power
Jun 12, 2010

The mind of man may be a curse, but what would I be without it?


Zuko is confirmed as alive IIRC.

SpiderHyphenMan
Mar 31, 2010
Sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night in a sweat as unknown to me, in my sleep I have managed to tune my ear to the frequency of despair, and crossreference by the longitude and latitude of a heart in agony.
SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT ONE MORE DAY ALREADY!


Sergeant Hobo posted:

On a side note, with the airing of this last episode, have we seen everything that has been in all the trailers and released clips (minus the episode 7 preview, obviously)? I'm sure someone's done a very analysis to that end and I haven't found it yet.
There's been two or three split-second shots shown in trailers and previews that haven't shown up yet, but to my knowledge, nothing to give us any concrete idea of where the show is going to go from here.
The online Republic City flash game, on the other hand, mentioned some stuff about Zuko that I'm sure will come into play.


Also I just found out that Tarrlok is voiced by Dee Bradley Baker, aka Every Animal in The Avatar Universe.

randombattle
Oct 16, 2008

This hand of mine shines and roars! It's bright cry tells me to grasp victory!



canned_fruit posted:

It's okay I've got another stupid theory to make up for them:

Yukon was a firebender who was threatening stability in Republic City. Aang was torn because he wasn't actually doing anything technically wrong yet, he was just using political propaganda etc. to his advantage. His friends (Toph) warned him to deal with Yukon before he got out of hand but he allowed it because of his non-aggressive beliefs.

Yukon eventually did something very bad, like kill someone (actually have we seen/heard about Zuko? Killing the firelord would be a pretty big deal). Aang, angry at Yukon and himself went after him to take his bending away like he did with Ozai. However because he was full of emotion, Yukon beat him in the "energy battle". The effect of that was instead of taking Yukon's firebending, Yukon gained Aang's energybending.

Yukon was dealt with (put in prison/possibly killed), however not before secretly using energybending to gift that power to his son/disciple. Amon inherited Yukon's goal of power and vengeance against the Avatar/benders and has been waiting for Korra to come to Republic City to enact his plan.


I don't know how I feel about the theory despite just making it up. Personally I was in the camp of "Amon uses chi-blocking to fake energybend" but that new clip gives reason to think otherwise. One thing I think is certain is Amon's story about a bender oppressing his father is at the very least an analogy for Aang "oppressing" Yukon.

This isn't a very good theory for a few reasons. First and foremost being Ozai was so dangerous because he had the entire resources of the fire nation at his disposal and was actively pushing them towards war. Aang didn't take his bending away because he was a dangerous bender but because he was a dangerous person. If he hadn't and he had escaped he could have fought Zuko in an agni-kai and taken the throne back. Killing him or debending him was literally the only way to avoid a second war.

I cannot imagine Aang would just bust out spirit bending for every random criminal he comes across and you don't "lose" at spirit bending for being full of emotion. It's the opposite actually your spirit has to be unbendable and unshakable. You need to be emotional about what you are doing or you will waver.

Secondly if you lose at spirit bending the lion turtle said your spirit will be corrupted and you will die. Aang died from old age due to being trapped in the iceberg.

Third if Yukon did beat Aang and somehow learned spirit bending from that he would have had zero time to slip away and train someone before being pounced on by Team Avatar who we know were there at the time.

Killer robot
Sep 6, 2010

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Willsun posted:

Surprised no one's gif'd this yet unless I missed it:



I'm also very happy with the level of prickliness kept for Lin Beifong this episode. She warmed up just enough to chat with Tenzin, someone she's known for a long time, without getting terribly sentimental. That and I'm glad she wasn't so stubborn as to not work with Korra during that whole chase battle.

It only just struck me now that Tenzin didn't just leave her for another woman, he apparently left her for a woman 15 years younger than either of them. When she was still in her thirties (if possibly barely.)

Zore
Sep 21, 2010


Killer robot posted:

It only just struck me now that Tenzin didn't just leave her for another woman, he apparently left her for a woman 15 years younger than either of them. When she was still in her thirties (if possibly barely.)

Well Tenzin probably felt a ton of pressure to have kids once his dad died and he inherited the whole 'last airbender' thing. That probably played some role in why he ended up with such a young woman, making up for the fact he didn't have kids until he was in his forties.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952

Willsun posted:

Surprised no one's gif'd this yet unless I missed it:

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That's a truly beautiful combo right there. Korra is in a basic arrow stance, right legs forward and both hands in guard position. First, she jabs with her right hand to bend water from the channel behind her left (rear) foot. The jab is followed by a snap kick with her left leg which bends water from e channel in front of her. The first attack is easily seen and dodged, leading the opponent wide open to the uppercut coming right behind it.

Best one combo fight since Toph took down The Boulder. Goddamn the fight choreography on this show is so good.

Fried Chicken
Jan 9, 2011

dont fry me im no chicken


Zore posted:

Well Tenzin probably felt a ton of pressure to have kids once his dad died and he inherited the whole 'last airbender' thing. That probably played some role in why he ended up with such a young woman, making up for the fact he didn't have kids until he was in his forties.

Amon is the non bender son of Tenzin and Lin. Tenzin taught him airbending moves in hopes he would eventually be able to do it, without success. He even tried energybending it into him. But no luck. So Tenzin went off to have a bunch of bender-babies with Pema. Amon has spent the past 10+ years using the BeiFong fortune to build up the resources in his lair under the Future Industries factory so he can work out his daddy issues. Permanently.


Also goons, I am disappointed that we don't have an Amon facemask smiley yet

Fried Chicken fucked around with this message at May 15, 2012 around 04:38

meristem
Oct 2, 2010
I HAVE THE ETIQUETTE OF STIFF AND THE PERSONALITY OF A GIANT CUNT.

Man, I love Amon. Those little tasers his followers wear? They are simply the equivalents of firebending and really do equalise benders and nonbenders. Man delivers on his promise.

I can't wait for the council to try to outlaw them, thus starting the discussion why it's totally OK to fry your opponent with natural firebending, but not with technology-induced one. Even when Amon falls (because he is a terrorist leader, after all), the tasers will remain, because that's a genie that can't be put back in the bottle. Now - that's - revolution.

Hazo
Dec 30, 2004

SCIENCE


ImpAtom posted:

The music during the scene where Korra gets launched upwards by Bei Fong was loving amazing and I desperately want to buy it from iTunes or something.
Maybe ComposerGuy or somebody got to this before me, but it was basically a reprise of the "The Rally" cue that came out after the Korra Nation contest. It's my favorite piece too, and it seems like there's more to it but who knows.

SpiderHyphenMan posted:

Hahaha, Bryan loving Konietzko mentioned the Spongebob lower-third on his tumblr. He's just as pissed as the fans.

Edit: I love the fandom sometimes, I really do.

The first time I watched an Avatar episode and got hooked, it was when Nick was doing a marathon while promoting a new X-Men series, and Wolverine would burst through the screen at hilariously inappropriate times. Someone posted a video of it ages ago and it kills me every time.

edit: this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VX4p6EVjMrE

Hazo fucked around with this message at May 15, 2012 around 05:32

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!


Good god, why would you ever make an interactive ad that appears in the middle of the screen. That's like Don't-Do-This-poo poo 101.

Exclamation Marx
Feb 18, 2012

☆ We communists are like ☆ seeds and the people are
the soil. Wherever we go, we must unite with the people, take root and blossom among them.



meristem posted:

it's totally OK to fry your opponent with natural firebending, but not with technology-induced one.

It isn't though? Firebending has a bunch of uses. Tasers? not so much.

Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

Jumpjet, melta, jumpjet. Repeat for ten minutes or until victory is assured.

Hazo posted:

The first time I watched an Avatar episode and got hooked, it was when Nick was doing a marathon while promoting a new X-Men series, and Wolverine would burst through the screen at hilariously inappropriate times. Someone posted a video of it ages ago and it kills me every time.

edit: this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VX4p6EVjMrE
Ahahaha this owns.

"HEY GUYS WHAT'S GOIN' ON???/"

CuwiKhons
Sep 24, 2009

When Gotham is in ashes, I will finally be able to climb that FUCKING tree!

Dude, is that a jockstrap?


Fried Chicken posted:


On that note, Episode 7 preview clip

I like the mocking movie style pronunciation.

I legitimately like Tahno and want to see more of him. It's okay buddy, you'll be alright

7c Nickel
Apr 27, 2008

DARK SEXY, I LIKE IT
AND CAN'T WAIT.


meristem posted:

I'm trying to name not only any single cartoon, but also any live-action movie I ever saw where the people who saved the day would be a woman and a girl. I'm drawing a blank. Help?

Well it's a bit late, but I just now watched the last episode and caught with the thread.


Kushana


Nausicaa

I'd certainly consider these two the main characters in Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind. The guys behind Avatar are always citing Miyazaki as a huge influence so it shouldn't be a surprise.

7c Nickel fucked around with this message at May 15, 2012 around 07:38

Willsun
Dec 9, 2006

I willed too hard again...


mllaneza posted:

Best one combo fight since Toph took down The Boulder. Goddamn the fight choreography on this show is so good.

Yeah, I always have to tone down the MMA-geekery when I watch this with friends because I think I'm the only one who cares. Most other cartoon fighting is just designed with the mindset of "throw a bunch of cool punches and fireballs that collide with each other" but Korra's got some effort put into how these teams move around defending each other or making combos.

It also really made me smile in the last episode seeing Korra throwing an uppercut like a pro after a 1-2 combo, as well as when Bolin was teaching Korra to punch in pro-bending during the second episode.

Jock Mocken
Apr 6, 2005

on point like a unicorn, strapped like tha unabomb
everyday a work day but dont wear a uniform
Gucci Mane a dapper don, capper like a Capricorn


SpiderHyphenMan posted:

There's been two or three split-second shots shown in trailers and previews that haven't shown up yet, but to my knowledge, nothing to give us any concrete idea of where the show is going to go from here.
The online Republic City flash game, on the other hand, mentioned some stuff about Zuko that I'm sure will come into play.


Also I just found out that Tarrlok is voiced by Dee Bradley Baker, aka Every Animal in The Avatar Universe.

one of the best commentary tracks on the Avatar DVDs was Dee Bradley Baker and one of the dudes from the Track Team on, I think, The Northern Air Temple. They're two dudes who don't work together so they explain their jobs to each other, Dee Bradley Baker shows off his skill at making animal noises, and they chat about how much they like the finished show.

7c Nickel posted:

Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind. The guys behind Avatar are always citing Miyazaki as a huge influence so it shouldn't be a surprise.

In addition to Miyazaki, the Avatar team are pretty obviously Fullmetal Alchemist fans, which has Izumi Curtis, a housewife, and May Chang, a young girl, save the day multiple times with their powerful bending alchemy skills.

As far as western animation goes, Mulan is probably the only Disney female asskicker, but the DCAU has always been pretty good, especially Hawkgirl under Dwayne McDuffie on JLU. Also, the director of the recent Wonder Woman and Supergirl-centric direct-to-video movies, Lauren Montgomery, is now working on Korra season two. Here's Wonder Woman and Big Barda:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPlSdns_n1E

Chief Savage Man
Jul 19, 2010

i care, i'm listening, i can help you without giving any advice


I have decided that Sato cannot be a traitor because he has the same VA as Johnny Gat.

Elder Crain
Mar 18, 2012


Captain Oblivious posted:

This dumb theory has already been brought up before. The chief problem with it is it's completely arbitrary and has no narrative purpose.

Why does reincarnation suddenly work like this? "Because it's wicked awesome"! That logic was enough to fuel the entire plot of DBZ, but it isn't for Korra.

Well, to be honest your dismissal of it is just as arbitrary. If this is what is being set up then there would be some sort of explanation given, not just "gently caress year plot device". You're trying to speak from a position of authority but you have just as little knowledge of what's going to happen. Hell just off the top of my head I can think of at least 4 ways to explain how this could have happened in universe:

1)Aang's pseudo-death caused problems with the reincarnation cycle, only part of his spirit moved on to a new avatar. Thus we have calm, cool, evil Amon, and energtic, fun loving, hot headed Korra. Ying and Yang thing

2)Aang's super remove your bending finisher caused a flood of spirit energy to cause problems in the spirit world. Some malevolent spirit, Koh maybe, captured this flood of avatar/ozai energy and used it to make an anti avatar.

3)Aang's unlocking of his blocked chakra, which could have been causing problems with the rebirth cycle finally "cleared the pipes" and poo poo went from there.

4)Or something loving happened in the decades between TLA and LOK that we don't know about that will be explained.

My point it that it is an interesting idea that there is a ying/yang sort of thing going on between Amon and Korra and the concept of them being two parts of a split avatar soul is just as valid as any of other blind conjectures that have been thrown around.

Rygar201
Jan 25, 2011


Elder Crain posted:



There is no reason to believe any of that based on what happened in the show. I get that you think it would be awesome and all, but TLA gives us no reason to believe that any of that could be true. We have as much reason to believe all that as we do time traveling Aang is Amon and other crack theories.

Gravitas Shortfall
Jul 17, 2007

Utility is seven-eighths Proximity.


It would also undermine the idea of class warfare if the terrorist champions of the oppressed class were literally lead by the spirit of evil.

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raditts
Feb 21, 2001

The Kwanzaa Bot is here to protect me.

Elder Crain posted:

2)Aang's super remove your bending finisher caused a flood of spirit energy to cause problems in the spirit world. Some malevolent spirit, Koh maybe, captured this flood of avatar/ozai energy and used it to make an anti avatar.

If Amon is The Guardian, then I want to see his face pop out through my TV screen.

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