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landcollector
Feb 28, 2011


Humerus posted:

Wild speculations ahoy!

I think Zuko is somehow involved in Amon's backstory. We didn't see any flashbacks to Zuko but considering Toph and Sokka where in RC with Aang when poo poo went down with Yakone(?) it's a fair assumption Zuko was too. Maybe Zuko killed Yakone who was Amon's father or mentor and also wanted to bring about "Equality."



Also, I haven't seen this posted yet and I thought it was so I had to share. Really hoping the cosplayers show up in another episode, maybe to support Korra when she inevitably has to defend herself to Tarlokk.

I'm loving the art style in that piece. I know I've been bitching about the show lately, but only because I love it. One of the reasons I liked the pro-bending final match scene was because of the cosplayers and their reactions.

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The Devil Tesla
Jan 2, 2012
actually a puppy

user does not understand sarcasm

Darth Walrus posted:

Actually, I think he wanted Korra to have a makeover.

Though either is plausible.

Eww, this is a kids show. Bolin is both tough and metro, of course he'd want a makeover.

Kitten Cakes
Aug 26, 2008

Delicious and nutritious.


New theory. I'm re-watching the original series and had just finished the episode with the fortune-teller today. The fortune-teller says that Katara will have her third grandchild and right after pass away peacefully in her sleep. Meelo's like what, 3? Sounds like too much time. I theorize that Katara is a ghost; in fact, every bender is a ghost except for Amon, who goes about his life constantly horrified and ridiculed everyday that he can see the dead while others can't. He vows to become a ghost-buster: everytime he cleanses a bender of their powers he's actually helping them cross over. The final episode will culminate with Katara realizing she is a ghost and all Amon wanted to do was help her and the other ghost-benders.

Edit: Behind the mask is Bill Murray.

randombattle
Oct 16, 2008

This hand of mine shines and roars! It's bright cry tells me to grasp victory!



DrSunshine posted:

"Every single nonbender is now an enemy of Republic City!"

I'm almost bemoaning the fact that this is a family show, and so it can't get into some of the darker aspects of war, revolutions, and political machinations.

Anyway, with the latest episode I'm really wondering if they're serious about the message here. Is the message really that everything is actually hunky-dory and that people who demand equality are just big lame-o's? By painting the Equalists as more or less uniformly bad guys -- even the "informant" being a plant -- I'm not so sure about the supposed moral ambiguity anymore.



Hey now just because they are bad guys doesn't mean they can't also have something else to say or be 100% evil all the time.

dj_clawson
Jan 12, 2004

We are all sinners in the eyes of these popsicle sticks.

Above is pretty great.

I realized while watching this episode, which had an entirely predictable ending but made for a solid episode otherwise, that a lot of things I don't like about Korra I would probably not mind if I wasn't watching it piecemeal. When I saw TLA, it was in 3-4 episode chunks, so if there was a bad episode, we just moved right along to the next one.

MacBook Air Gamer
May 6, 2007

Here I go, deep type flow.
Jacques Cousteau could never get this low.


Just a reminder that Bryan Konietzko and Sifu Kisu are both dorks that have tumblr accounts and they both rule

Serella
Apr 24, 2008

Is that what you're posting?


Kitten Cakes posted:

New theory. I'm re-watching the original series and had just finished the episode with the fortune-teller today. The fortune-teller says that Katara will have her third grandchild and right after pass away peacefully in her sleep.

Third great grandchild.

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

The Pink Warrior should just shut up!


MacBook Air Gamer posted:

Just a reminder that Bryan Konietzko and Sifu Kisu are both dorks that have tumblr accounts and they both rule



Oh no, Bryan's using Hook Swords! That mean's he's gonna die ... supposedly.

DrSunshine fucked around with this message at May 22, 2012 around 02:22

SpiderHyphenMan
Mar 31, 2010
Sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night in a sweat as unknown to me, in my sleep I have managed to tune my ear to the frequency of despair, and crossreference by the longitude and latitude of a heart in agony.
SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT ONE MORE DAY ALREADY!


randombattle posted:



Hey now just because they are bad guys doesn't mean they can't also have something else to say or be 100% evil all the time.
I see you, and raise you:

Captain Capacitor
Jan 20, 2008

The code you say?


I made more gifs!



landcollector
Feb 28, 2011


SpiderHyphenMan posted:

I see you, and raise you:




We are all going to die. If something can make Pabu go Avatar State, nothing can save you.

I love this thread for the pictures and animated gifs people here create.

Prof. Moriarty
Dec 6, 2003
Not the regular Professor Moriarty, the hologram Professor Moriarty where the holodeck malfunctioned and he created the whole fake hologram enterprise and fooled the Captain. Oh, and he tried to escape with his girlfriend once, but he was foiled.

It's wonderful that this show is allowing two awesome women to coexist, even though one (Asami) is preventing the main character from achieving her desired romance. It would be so easy for the writers to just sketch Asami as a brat, or a wuss, or some other one-dimensional trait to set up Korra as the "cool, deserving girl." Kudos to this show. Serious, serious kudos.

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

Love is eight legged and squishy


Prof. Moriarty posted:

It's wonderful that this show is allowing two awesome women to coexist, even though one (Asami) is preventing the main character from achieving her desired romance. It would be so easy for the writers to just sketch Asami as a brat, or a wuss, or some other one-dimensional trait to set up Korra as the "cool, deserving girl." Kudos to this show. Serious, serious kudos.

If I didn't know any better I'd say there was a minor theme in this show about how "TRUE LOVE" never works out and you should instead pursue healthy relationships with good people who make you happy. First Tenzin and Lin, now Korra and Mako, if that's their plan more kudos are deserved.

Dezinus
Jun 4, 2006

The drill... is my soul!

Just watched this week's episode, hot drat. I wasn't expecting so much action after last week.

Forget Korra, Lin is all the strong female lead that you need! I hope book 2 just follows Lin kicking the crap out of everybody.

SpiderHyphenMan
Mar 31, 2010
Sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night in a sweat as unknown to me, in my sleep I have managed to tune my ear to the frequency of despair, and crossreference by the longitude and latitude of a heart in agony.
SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT ONE MORE DAY ALREADY!


That's loving incredible.

Edit: We have a title for the next episode: "When Extremes Meet".

SpiderHyphenMan fucked around with this message at May 22, 2012 around 04:47

randombattle
Oct 16, 2008

This hand of mine shines and roars! It's bright cry tells me to grasp victory!



Dezinus posted:

Just watched this week's episode, hot drat. I wasn't expecting so much action after last week.

Forget Korra, Lin is all the strong female lead that you need! I hope book 2 just follows Lin kicking the crap out of everybody.

Well she's all set up to become Spiderbat-Woman

12_String
Feb 28, 2007

Broccoli is brain food.

Killbox posted:


Why didn't Korra go in avatar state? It was between life and "death", unless she knew mako and bolin would come to rescue.


Two reasons:

1. She lacks the spiritual maturity to master air bending, much less the avatar state.

2. The writers aren't going to let that genie out of the bottle just 7 episodes into the first season.

SpiderHyphenMan posted:

I see you, and raise you:


This just loving rocks.

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART


Prof. Moriarty posted:

It's wonderful that this show is allowing two awesome women to coexist, even though one (Asami) is preventing the main character from achieving her desired romance. It would be so easy for the writers to just sketch Asami as a brat, or a wuss, or some other one-dimensional trait to set up Korra as the "cool, deserving girl." Kudos to this show. Serious, serious kudos.

Only two awesome women? I present you:

Crasscrab
Jan 31, 2012

IF YOU CAN READ THIS THEN I WILL BE ABLE TO ENJOY THIS MASTERPIECE OF AFFORDABLE PIZZA


MacBook Air Gamer posted:

Just a reminder that Bryan Konietzko and Sifu Kisu are both dorks that have tumblr accounts and they both rule

Oh dear God they're like swamped by shipping questions!

SirKibbles
Feb 27, 2011

MY POLITICAL OPINIONS AND ICE-BURNS MAY SEEM OVERSIMPLIFIED AND CHILDISH DUE TO MY BROKEN RETARD GRAMMAR BUT DON'T WORRY THEY'RE COMPLETELY IDIOTIC JUVENILIA TO BEGIN WITH

Crasscrab posted:

Oh dear God they're like swamped by shipping questions!

They answer them pretty hilariously from time to time.

Tatum Girlparts
Sep 8, 2011

Do you think you can destroy me with your Nexus? I who served Thuganomics, I who commanded The Cenation, hundreds of years before you were on NXT?

SirKibbles posted:

They answer them pretty hilariously from time to time.

I figure in their work they'd either have to be super funny or super angry at this point, I'm very happy it's the former.

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

The Pink Warrior should just shut up!


I have a question. Why the gently caress is the Avatar fandom apparently so obsessed with shipping? This is the first show I've ever heard of that had such a fanbase so rabidly obsessed with romance like this. How did this even get started??

Regy Rusty
Apr 26, 2010



You've just not been exposed to enough of them. Virtually any work of fiction that gains significant internet following has fans who are obsessed with shipping. Avatar isn't anything unique.

Jorghnassen
Oct 1, 2007
Glouton des fjords

Regy Rusty posted:

You've just not been exposed to enough of them. Virtually any work of fiction that gains significant internet following has fans who are obsessed with shipping. Avatar isn't anything unique.

It also requires a large enough cast of mixed genders to be more visible. Take the original Star Trek, you got mostly Spock-Kirk slash fiction. Uhura x whoever, not so much, though I'm sure Scotty-Chekov exists somewhere.

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005


DrSunshine posted:

This is the first show I've ever heard of that had such a fanbase so rabidly obsessed with romance like this. How did this even get started??

Really? It's probably not even in the top ten shows in terms of "has crazy obssessed fans". I never really read forums back in the day but I bet X Files, Buffy and Angel had "shipping wars". Harry Potter probably did too, the actress playing a girl who got with Harry got death threats when she got announced and I've heard Supernatural has some legitimately scary fans who think the two main actors are actually secretly loving and tried to get one of their wives thrown out of a convention for dressing like a hooker (in their words). At least cartoon characters can't be actually attacked or threatened.

How it got started can probably be summed up as "the internet" although there were probably fan magazines discussing Moonlighting or whatever pre internet.

thebardyspoon fucked around with this message at May 22, 2012 around 13:35

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Are you mocking me?

DrSunshine posted:

I have a question. Why the gently caress is the Avatar fandom apparently so obsessed with shipping? This is the first show I've ever heard of that had such a fanbase so rabidly obsessed with romance like this. How did this even get started??

Any work of fiction featuring two or more characters, especially works of fiction aimed at and featuring teenagers, is going to inevitably feature romance plots. In turn, different people will have different ideas of how those romance plots turn out. Inevitably some of those people will become incredibly invested in the idea because that is what happens.

You hear about it a lot with Avatar for a number of reasons, not the least of which is that Avatar is a fairly gender-neutral show with a lot of fans from both genders and for whatever reason female fans tend to be the ones who enjoy the romance aspect more. Inevitably some of those fans are going to be obsessive or crazy because that is the nature of these things.

(Also there are groups of fans who like to whine about "shipping" because it is pointless/stupid/whatever. These are often the exact same fans who will get into multi-paragraph arguments about the minutia of who would win in a fight and how bloodbending should totally have let Aang explode Ozai's heart. These fans are pretty vocal, especially on internet message boards, and so you hear about it more because they draw attention to it.)

ImpAtom fucked around with this message at May 22, 2012 around 13:41

Well Manicured Man
Aug 21, 2010

Well Manicured Mort

Hell, the X-Files fandom invented the word "shipping".

Tartarus Sauce
Jan 16, 2006


friendship is magic
in a pony paradise
don't you judge me

Do shippers just need to get laid more, or what?

Well, and is it just me, or is there something uniquely creepy about playing Character Matchmaker? I can basically get into the head of someone who just fantasizes about loving or romancing their favorite character themselves, but getting obsessed about X Character hooking up with Y Character, and A hooking up with B, strikes me as especially odd, in a way I can't quite articulate.

AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

"I'm curious!!"
"...ah...w-well..."

Let's just pretend Sato meant to say 95% Platinum, which is abundant as hell in Avatar world, and they blew their research budget on martial arts moves, well deservedly.


I'll dry any tears shed for STEM education in America by continually throwing popcorn into my eyeballs

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Are you mocking me?

Tartarus Sauce posted:

Do shippers just need to get laid more, or what?

Well, and is it just me, or is there something uniquely creepy about playing Character Matchmaker? I can basically get into the head of someone who just fantasizes about loving or romancing their favorite character themselves, but getting obsessed about X Character hooking up with Y Character, and A hooking up with B, strikes me as especially odd, in a way I can't quite articulate.

Why exactly is it weird that people become emotionally invested in two characters romancing one another, but not weird when they care about them fighting or becoming friends or basically any other kind of social interaction? People like (character X) and (character Y) and hope the interaction goes in a certain way.

Serella
Apr 24, 2008

Is that what you're posting?


ImpAtom posted:

Why exactly is it weird that people become emotionally invested in two characters romancing one another, but not weird when they care about them fighting or becoming friends or basically any other kind of social interaction? People like (character X) and (character Y) and hope the interaction goes in a certain way.

The difference between a fan and a shipper is that a fan is emotionally invested in the characters with hopes as to what will happen next, and a shipper is a rabid fan who disregards some canon events and interprets others specifically to support their pet theory that two (or more) characters are in a romantic relationship. Often a hosed-up relationship.

SpaceViking
Sep 2, 2011

Who put the stars in the sky? Coyote will say he did it himself, and it is not a lie.


Serella posted:

The difference between a fan and a shipper is that a fan is emotionally invested in the characters with hopes as to what will happen next, and a shipper is a rabid fan who disregards some canon events and interprets others specifically to support their pet theory that two (or more) characters are in a romantic relationship. Often a hosed-up relationship.

It also seems like, given the prevalence of same-sex shipping, that there's some undercurrent of "They can't get away with showing a gay couple so they're leaving hints about the truth which only I can see!"

Giant Goats
Mar 7, 2010


DrSunshine posted:

I have a question. Why the gently caress is the Avatar fandom apparently so obsessed with shipping? This is the first show I've ever heard of that had such a fanbase so rabidly obsessed with romance like this. How did this even get started??

Because despite what people around here like to think, the show is aimed at tweens and teens. Romance is pretty front and centre of most kids' lives at that age.

Personally, while it's not my thing, I don't think it's a rabid obsession. It's just a way of connecting with the series, albeit on a more character/emotion-driven level than the "inspect every single aspect of the worldbuilding in minute detail" tactic that tends to be favoured by the older and more male part of fandom.

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



ImpAtom posted:

Why exactly is it weird that people become emotionally invested in two characters romancing one another, but not weird when they care about them fighting or becoming friends or basically any other kind of social interaction? People like (character X) and (character Y) and hope the interaction goes in a certain way.

I have never seen anyone so invested in power levels that when character X beats character Y in a fight they get so angry they stop watching the show and send death threats to the creators.

Humerus
Jul 7, 2009

No one warp core should have all that power, Captain!



Serella posted:

The difference between a fan and a shipper is that a fan is emotionally invested in the characters with hopes as to what will happen next, and a shipper is a rabid fan who disregards some canon events and interprets others specifically to support their pet theory that two (or more) characters are in a romantic relationship. Often a hosed-up relationship.

Speaking of hosed-up relationships, I think Sifu Kisu is just trolling the shippers because he reblogged this yesterday (borderline ) http://imgur.com/SXnCO

But really there's a huge difference between "man I hope Korra and Mako end up together" and "OMG IF BRYKE MAKES MASAMI HAPPEN I WILL BOYCOTT NICK AND AVATAR FOREVER!!!!!" Learn the difference, know the difference.

Edit: VVV The pic is Azula and Ty Lee in bed, with Mai in the doorway.

Humerus fucked around with this message at May 22, 2012 around 14:59

kefkafloyd
Jun 8, 2006

I call him that
because he waddles!

WADDLES!


thebardyspoon posted:

Really? It's probably not even in the top ten shows in terms of "has crazy obssessed fans". I never really read forums back in the day but I bet X Files, Buffy and Angel had "shipping wars". Harry Potter probably did too, the actress playing a girl who got with Harry got death threats when she got announced and I've heard Supernatural has some legitimately scary fans who think the two main actors are actually secretly loving and tried to get one of their wives thrown out of a convention for dressing like a hooker (in their words). At least cartoon characters can't be actually attacked or threatened.

How it got started can probably be summed up as "the internet" although there were probably fan magazines discussing Moonlighting or whatever pre internet.

You had to be around when TLA was still new. Zutara is a strange brand of crazy that I've never quite seen matched anywhere else. It's died down since then, but at the time it was maddening. People just want to talk about the show in peace, but wherever you went it was just shippers all the time.

kefkafloyd fucked around with this message at May 22, 2012 around 14:58

Chief Savage Man
Jul 19, 2010

i care, i'm listening, i can help you without giving any advice


Who's the other girl supposed to be?

Also did I read it right somewhere that there was no new episode this Saturday?

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Are you mocking me?

gooby on rails posted:

I have never seen anyone so invested in power levels that when character X beats character Y in a fight they get so angry they stop watching the show and send death threats to the creators.

It certainly happens. You probably don't hear about it as much because internet nerds are less likely to point it out. Crazy fans sent death threats to people over loving My Little Pony renaming some character or another for Christ's sake. People certainly stop watching shows (or reading comics or playing video games or even stop watching movies) over "how dare you kill (X?!)" or "do (Y) to (Z)?!" Crazy fans are crazy no matter what they obsess over.

ImpAtom fucked around with this message at May 22, 2012 around 15:08

Pastrymancy
Feb 20, 2011

A place where powerful dog creatures rained misery and joy on the humans!


Chief Savage Man posted:

Who's the other girl supposed to be?

Also did I read it right somewhere that there was no new episode this Saturday?


It's Memorial Day in the U.S. So I think Saturday cartoons skip a week.

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dj_clawson
Jan 12, 2004

We are all sinners in the eyes of these popsicle sticks.

Chief Savage Man posted:

Who's the other girl supposed to be?

Also did I read it right somewhere that there was no new episode this Saturday?

It's the circus girl whose name currently escapes me.

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