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Captain Oblivious posted:The issue is that it's a bit of an assumption to say the fact that she didn take control of Sokka's mouth means she can't. The difference is that between you moving your arm of your own (supposedly) free will and someone tying ropes around all of your extremities so that they can jerk you around like a puppet. Bloodbending is moving water around inside a meat sack just like metalbending is moving the tiny bits of "earth" left in refined metals. It isn't mind control.
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Broose posted:I hope they will talk more about what happened after the TLA ended. I don't have high hopes for them going in depth about everything since it all got wrapped up pretty nicely. I am okay with that since it is supposed to be a new story and all, but things like Combustion Man bug the poo poo outta me (seriously, I missed the Avatar talk cause I only relatively recently watched the show on netflix so I don't know if I missed something there). And I want to know what happened to Sokka. It looks like a lot of the post-TLA/pre-Korra stuff is being handled by a series of three comics currently being published by Dark Horse Also, Sokka was meat and sarcasm guy to the end of his days and that's all anyone needs to know  .
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| # ¿ Apr 16, 2012 04:10 |
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Acebuckeye13 posted:And neither can most people in the Avatar world. And if you do want to train someone to be a firebender, it can take years of dedicated training. And even then, they're only effective out to a few meters. By comparison, anyone with two functioning arms can become a musketman, and it takes very little time to train them. They're also relatively cheap to manufacture, thus making it much easier to equip larger armies-and this doesn't even begin to get into the advantages of proper Artillery. In the real world it took hundreds of years to get from the introduction of primitive hand cannons to the development of flintlock muskets. I can't recall whether the Fire Nation was depicted as having any sort of cannon in the first series, but I'm leaning towards "no". Also, this is Nickelodeon.
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| # ¿ Apr 16, 2012 17:41 |
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Un-l337-Pork posted:Yea, but in a real fight how well is she going to do? Appa could at least hold his own in some circumstances. Fairly well, considering that she is ~1000 lbs of muscle, claws, and teeth?
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| # ¿ Apr 16, 2012 19:54 |
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skoolmunkee posted:I did a search of the last 5 pages or so for 'itunes' and didn't see this, so sorry if it's been asked before. About how long should it take for the episode to show up in itunes, does anyone know? I bought the HD season subscription and I'm anxious to watch it, but I've never used that service before so I have no idea how long they're gonna make me wait. I don't think anyone really knows right now, other than "as they become available". Also, nick.com has a high quality (looks to be 720p) stream of the latest episode.
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| # ¿ Apr 21, 2012 20:13 |
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TheHan posted:I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. Because the chi blockers could overpower the triad they can still terrorize people, when the entire point of the triad is that they're a group of benders who extort money out of the helpless? Sure they could try still being thugs, but people aren't gonna be scared of them and not being benders anymore they won't even have the triple triad name to back them up. You don't need bending to run a protection racket. People will extort and oppress others by any means available and for any excuse imaginable and if bending wasn't the issue it would be something else. Amon's crusade against bending ultimately solves nothing because it doesn't change the fact that a lot of people are just assholes. Oneiros fucked around with this message at Apr 21, 2012 around 21:47 |
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Captain Oblivious posted:Iroh doesn't need to be willfully lying to Zuko to be propagating a cultural ideology he's been immersed in since birth. Or maybe redirecting loving lightning, which is a technique that Iroh claims to have invented himself by studying and applying waterbending techniques, actually is dangerous and people are reading way, way, too much into this.
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| # ¿ Apr 22, 2012 04:14 |
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namesake posted:So that's nobody then? Here's a super tip: The correct answer to privilege resulting from actual, innate differences in peoples' abilities is not handicapping those with more ability because what the gently caress?
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| # ¿ Apr 22, 2012 19:16 |
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DivisionPost posted:Hey, just for future reference, did someone mention a comic called The Promise, bridging the gap between the end of TLA and the start of Korra? Is it online or is it print only? Print only by Dark Horse Comics, as far as I know. You can buy it from amazon for $6. There are going to be three issues, but only one is out at the moment.
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| # ¿ Apr 23, 2012 15:32 |
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kater posted:Why the gently caress would normal people even stick around Republic City? Did the Fire Kingdom have a potato famine that people are trying to escape or something? Because it is a successful, established city with jobs, culture, history? Assuming it grew out of the fire nation colony depicted in The Promise comic, it was roughly 100 years old by the end of the first series. People probably immigrate there from rural villages and other, smaller cities to expand their opportunities. Others are born and live their lives there. I don't know where people are getting this impression that Republic City is some vast employment desert for non-benders. The fact that homelessness and prejudice exist does not turn an entire city into a hellhole that everyone tries to escape from.
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| # ¿ Apr 23, 2012 19:27 |
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Something someone (I believe it was Captain Oblivious) said in the last thread that has stuck with me is that Aang, by taking away Ozai's bending, introduced the idea that bending is a privilege, not a right, and that if you use it to gently caress people over then it should be taken away from you. Is having hands a privilege? Because you can take away someone's hands. Is having eyes a privilege? Because you can take away someone's eyes. Is being alive a privilege? Because you can take that away too. Bending is a (super)natural ability that people in the Avatar universe are born with. The fact that it can be taken away by force does not make it a privilege. Ozai had his bending taken because he was a meglomaniac who was literally trying to incinerate an entire continent and Aang opted for (essentially) mutilation rather than death.
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| # ¿ Apr 23, 2012 20:55 |
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blurry! posted:By this logic, if bending=limbs/eyes, are non benders deformed or handicapped? Are benders extra-abled, or are non-benders disabled? If they're extra-abled, then they are akin to pro athletes in real life. Are pro athletes entitled to special status in the eyes of society, over normal people? Should they escape the law more often, or get spcial treatment? If benders are extra-able, does that make it OK to forcibly handicap them as long as they don't drop below "normal"?
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| # ¿ Apr 23, 2012 21:26 |
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Oh poo poo guys, preview clip! Korra pulling some sweet moves there, like freezing the gas grenades in mid-air. Also, what are the chances that the group was just some people getting lessons on how to defend themselves from criminal benders? 
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| # ¿ Apr 24, 2012 22:29 |
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Well, the presence of gas grenades and the giant Amon poster sort of dissuades that theory, but the raid itself appeared to be of questionable legality to say the least. It'll be interesting to see if there's any fallout from it. Yeah, I was thinking it might have been some sort of community outreach program (free self defense lessons!) but looking closer they were all wearing identical half-masks and they had the gas grenades so now I'm thinking they really are capital 'E' Equalists.
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| # ¿ Apr 24, 2012 22:39 |
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tsob posted:I just loved the thought that the ninja dude who attacked Korra after she tripped the wire pretty much had to have been waiting there all night just in case they were attacked since the entire raid only covers a few seconds and there was no way someone in the room had the time to get in that gear and jump in to position. Wonder how he passed the time.  Man, Amon never gives me the cool assignments; I want to be out there taking down the Triple Threat Triad. I've got another four hours left on my shift and my leg is already starting to cramp OH CRAP THE AVATAR!
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| # ¿ Apr 25, 2012 01:22 |
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Fried Chicken posted:You do realize that Harrison Bergeron is a satire of what people think socialism and the push for equality is, rather than an attempt at criticizing it, right? You do realize that despite Harrison Bergeron being satire people here are advocating for the sort of society it depicts, right?
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| # ¿ Apr 25, 2012 18:23 |
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deadicons posted:Is it just me or does the swat team have the same armor as the White Lotus? Nope, completely different. Different from the police uniforms we've seen so far, too, but that may be because they were all metalbenders and their uniforms have to support those wire systems.
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| # ¿ Apr 25, 2012 20:32 |
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That sure is a whole lot of words to say that the mutilation of an entire subset of people is OK in the service of EQUALITY. Also, the drat Avatar was hauled in to the police station for tearing up a public street while dishing out vigilante justice. Somehow, I doubt Bei Fong is giving preferential treatment to organized crime syndicates. Just because we haven't been shown raids and arrests in the limited timespan of three episodes doesn't mean that bender criminals are being given free reign to terrorize non-benders. Oneiros fucked around with this message at Apr 25, 2012 around 23:22 |
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Fried Chicken posted:She was also let go without even a slap on the wrist after she tore up a city block, wrecked at least 2 shops, beat the crap out of 3 people, and fled the scene of a crime. Not exactly a solid example of a just society. Touché. Episode 1: Vigilante Justice! Episode 2: Korra is in jail. Episode 3: Korra is still in jail. Episode 4: Korra does community service! Episode 5: Korra gets sent to solitary for mouthing off at a guard. <edit> Tenzin did tell Lin that Korra would be removed back to the South Pole. Too bad we didn't get to see their next conversation about how she would actually be staying at the island. 
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TontoCorazon posted:Welp it turns out bolin is the best character, might as well make him the avatar now. Seconded, Bolin (and Pabu) stole this episode. Also, that might have been the most inappropriate sponsor blurb ever:  Flameo Instant Noodles
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| # ¿ May 6, 2012 03:45 |
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Kazy posted:Bolin doesn't like losing. This is magical. Also, portraying the passage of time really is a weak point of Korra. With A:TLA you at least had scenes of everyone on Appa's back, implying long stretches of just flying around to get from place to place. With Korra we're given almost nothing to signify that time has passed other than the fact that the next pro-bending match is taking place. Tivac posted:Am I crazy? Didn't the announcer straight up say "it's been a year but were finally having the tournament" right at the beginning of the episode? No, the intro was "Love is in the air."
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| # ¿ May 6, 2012 17:17 |
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Everyone here is missing the most important revelation of the episode: PoodlePonies  The whole episode was good, but the last act was fantastic. SpiderLin, Korra punching problems in the face, and Amon being a boss. Also, Pabu. I'm bad at .gifs, but this had a nice flow to it. Imagine Korra bodyslamming an equalist, forever. 
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| # ¿ May 13, 2012 03:56 |
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Nephthys posted:I knew it! I never did trust Pabu! What, did you think he was learning all those fancy moves from Bolin? He's obviously been running off to secret Equalist chi-blocker training sessions
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| # ¿ May 15, 2012 19:32 |
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Paracelsus posted:I'm sure the Earth kingdom would have fallen apart without debending to restrain their prisoners and keeping them from just rampaging all over the place. Good thing they had it during their entire millennia-long history! To be entirely fair, we got a glimpse of the method they might use to restrain powerful benders in the original series. It involved hammers.
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| # ¿ Jun 23, 2012 01:58 |
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Funkz posted:gently caress, I knew something was wrong. The actual avatar of the Avatar is really nice, though!  Anyhow, after finally catching up with the finale all I can really say is that I feel the season suffered terribly by only having 12 episodes to work with. Great premise, some fun characters, and fantastic visuals, but ultimately a flawed execution.
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| # ¿ Jun 24, 2012 22:44 |
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Minrad posted:gently caress Tarlokk's redemption, this was the saddest moment in the finale. Just imagine how much better it would have been if the guy had any, literally any, moments in the series other than jamming cattle prods into people's stomachs and getting thrown into walls / off buildings
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| # ¿ Jun 25, 2012 00:16 |
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Jesto posted:I find it kind of funny that Korra's absolute lowest point was her inability to earth, fire or waterbend but suddenly being able to airbend. Even moreso if that falling tear really was supposed to symbolize suicide. She was identified as the Avatar at an early age. She spent a good chunk of her life in near total isolation at the south pole training to realize her destiny. Her first excursion to the outside world ended in a giant cluster gently caress in which an entire city was ripped to pieces. To her knowledge, Amon got away scot-free while she was left with a full 3/4 of her power as the Avatar permanently gone.
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