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Jorghnassen
Oct 1, 2007
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Captain Oblivious posted:

Yeah Korra is a prodigy in those three elements. Key word...THOSE three elements.

The airbending thing? Not so much.

I loved how she'd try to airbend by herself in the second episode and her technique looked like a firebending punch: almost no nice circular form, too direct. No wonder it didn't work.

With Aang's breaking the barriers between nations and his own child prodigy-ness (and early realization of being the avatar), he got reincarnated into someone even more prodigious early on, but not quite as "nationally typecast" so to speak, and almost completely aspiritual. The writers made interesting choices which I can't wait to see how they will develop. The essence of the world is there, but they are taking it in bold new directions, not rehashing the same characters and story. That's the right approach to a follow-up. Too often we get sequels/spinoffs with the same characters (or expanded minor ones) in repetitive plots or pointless/dissonants variations of old themes.

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Jorghnassen
Oct 1, 2007
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indigi posted:

Post links to these peoples' web pages or something please, I like to get commissions from artists I'm a fan and if someone actually worked on the series I'd be interested

Rufftoon on Deviantart. Check out the movie parodies/movie-making lessons. And the Zhao fan art.

Jorghnassen
Oct 1, 2007
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Mastering the Avatar state is quite dangerous. Between season 2 and 3, the canon "Escape the Spirit World" flash game showed that Roku blew up the top of the Avatar temple of the fire nation and was pulled out of the avatar state in extremis by his mentor. He had to rebuild it by himself to learn the patience necessary to control his avatar state self.

With Korra, I could see Amon miscalculating (or calculating) and getting Korra to go on a Avatar state rampage, either to try to kill her in that state and put an end to the Avatar, or to turn all the world against bending altogether. And it could go either "what have I done?" or "just as planned" way.

Jorghnassen
Oct 1, 2007
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Alpha Kenny Juan posted:

You wouldn't say that in Triple Threat Triad territory, would you non-bending Phonograph Man?

Plus the police appear to be all metal benders. They may be officially good guys, but that's still another level of tension/benders imposing the rules.

Jorghnassen
Oct 1, 2007
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I just want Old Man Zuko to show up and tell someone about the "days of high adventure".

Jorghnassen
Oct 1, 2007
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OK, after a one day delay.

Man, those episodes go fast... Things got dark fast, and in a way, way darker than it has ever been in the previous series.

Amon is definitely an interesting villain, and I believe he's lying, the question is to which extent, and on what. The spirits he claims to have seen would not say the new avatar has failed, she's not even fully realized yet. And most are nature loving that aren't so keen on technology... Like others have speculated, his bending removal doesn't appear to be the same as Aang's (for one thing, it's less flashy, and all that stuff the Lion Turtle talked about would make it more difficult). It may not be as permanent as he believes it to be. I don't know if anyone else noticed how Lightning Bolt Zolt had the exact same reaction post "debending" as Ozai, down to the attempted "fire" punch and fall. The chakra based hypothesis seems definitely interesting, as is the Koh speculation, can't wait to see where it goes...

It was also interesting to see Mako work at the powerplant. It addresses one issue from superhero comics I've always wondered about. Many superheroes are more or less perpetual motion machines. Take X-Men's Cyclops. If the army/government got a hold of someone like him IRL, they wouldn't use him as an elite, self-determined supersoldier/agent, they stick him in some sort of generator and power the city of New York or something, it would be a much better use of his power. So there are jobs for benders that are quite lovely, where they are nothing more than a tool, a part of the machinery. If the nonbending technocrats took over, they could reverse the roles/perceptions, making benders into just replaceable, very specialized units in the production chain and not people with full rights, their own dreams, etc.

I can't wait to see how it develops, and I think it's clear that Korra will have to delve into the spiritual side (and probably the spirit world) to find a way to resolve this conflict. I'd say there's a good chance Amon debendifies her too, and that it's not permanent if she can figure out the chakra stuff like in The Guru.

Jorghnassen
Oct 1, 2007
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Doublehex posted:

Episode 3 is on the official site.

And for those in Canada (like myself), the same Firefox trick that works for the Daily Show appears to work fine on Nickelodeon's site too...

Jorghnassen
Oct 1, 2007
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namesake posted:

Beware the most dangerous animal of them all: THE OCTOPOTAMUS



Also did this episode get a Zhaos seal of approval at all? They are hilarious.

The other creature is the allegory for allegory itself isn't it?

OK, back to Korra. What's the over/under for her losing her bending to Amon soon? How long before she has to explore her spiritual side to solve things? She's still shoot-first, ask-questions-later... while it's fun to watch, it will be her undoing.

Jorghnassen
Oct 1, 2007
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Flanker posted:

Adding to my Amon speculation:

He isn't even burned, his back story is bogus. Wears a mask to hide a recognizable face, and/or is multiple people.

We will see the face behind the mask at some point, and I can't wait for that reveal, though it can wait. It took two complete seasons before we saw the full face of the Firelord.

But Booter-Freak's multiple guesses are neat.

Jorghnassen
Oct 1, 2007
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:

If this wasn't a cartoon, he'd definitely have cracked a couple of ribs right there.

If that had been Jet, he'd be dead.

Jorghnassen
Oct 1, 2007
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Are the flashbacks related to that other guy from 40 years ago?

The plot thickens.

And, in case anyone was wondering, Asami Sato is already being shipped with all the other characters...

Jorghnassen
Oct 1, 2007
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^^^ I believe that is fan art. Edit: gently caress beaten

Chief Savage Man posted:

This is the third time I've seen Vancouver listed as an inspiration for Republic City, along with Hong Kong, Shanghai and New York. I've never been to Vancouver and don't know much about it. Can somebody elaborate on the similarities between Vancouver and Republic City?

Also that was a good article that somebody posted earlier. A pretty good case for Korra to be taken seriously.

It's in part for the "harbour city with big mountains in the background" look. Also, Vancouver has a large Chinese population (and other Asian cultures).



A little Nat Geo blurb

Republic City Park reminded me a little of Vancouver Chinese Garden, though it's reminescent of a lot of other parks too.

Jorghnassen
Oct 1, 2007
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Korra relies too much on her firebending. Did anyone else notice it was the full moon during that scheduled showdown? The best time to do waterbending. And, had she learned bloodbending, she could've taken care of Amon and the Equalists right then and there.

Oh well.

Jorghnassen
Oct 1, 2007
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The Inequalists.

Jorghnassen
Oct 1, 2007
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I hope you guys realize we're about to hit mid-season, kick-the-plot-up-a-notch point. This episode was accurately timed comic relief. Don't confuse that with filler. See Nightmares and Daydreams and The Ember Island Players.
And it did advance the less important subplots (pro-bending; romantic tensions).

ETA: At least two nods to Miyazaki, with the "castle in the sky" and the way Pabu scuttled...

Jorghnassen fucked around with this message at May 5, 2012 around 17:57

Jorghnassen
Oct 1, 2007
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But it didn't address the Kosami and Malin shippers! You know they're out there.

Jorghnassen
Oct 1, 2007
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Fried Chicken posted:

Oh, and here



Anyone else feels the Miyazaki-ness of Pabu's movements there?

Jorghnassen
Oct 1, 2007
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Pakled posted:

So I'd talk about how awesome Bolin was in this episode but that's already been covered, so I'll just say that the pro-bending champion guy has to be the most anime character in the whole Avatar franchise.

Can't disagree with that. Note that his face appeared in the newspaper at the beginning of episode two.

Jorghnassen
Oct 1, 2007
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MentholsNBeer posted:

Man I just wanna see a show about Toph's daughter being angry at people. This episode was great, but where was the castle in the sky reference?

Ikki's love advice to Korra, a love potion will make true lovers sprout wings and live in a castle in the sky...

ETA: I also loved the "Hey Mako!...whoa" line delivery.

Jorghnassen fucked around with this message at May 5, 2012 around 22:52

Jorghnassen
Oct 1, 2007
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i hate meatloaf posted:

Calling it now: he's Amon!

I don't think he's Amon. However, he's a nonbender as, in the first episode, he rallies with the others watching the Equalist propaganda guy in jeering Korra.

Jorghnassen
Oct 1, 2007
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Kazy posted:

That makes me wonder, don't the official rules the creators posted say that headshots are illegal?

He could have broken it by hitting his head on a post, falling from a legal shot.

Jorghnassen
Oct 1, 2007
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It's plot-based advancement. It takes weeks to reach Ba Sing Se the first time around, by the series finale, it's only a matter of hours on Appa. Time and distances are relative to what needs to happen in the story.

Jorghnassen
Oct 1, 2007
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Tivac posted:

Am I crazy? Didn't the announcer straight up say "it's been a year but were finally having the tournament" right at the beginning of the episode?

That's from the previous championship tournament, not since they last had the Fire Ferrets perform (that was only a couple of weeks).

Jorghnassen
Oct 1, 2007
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Fried Chicken posted:

Is there a preview for next week out yet?

This is what was shown on Nick after the show. Not much of a preview. There was more in the "season" preview.

Jorghnassen
Oct 1, 2007
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You know, there's something of an airbender's movements in Amon's dodging attacks fighting style...

Kickass episode, as expected.

Jorghnassen
Oct 1, 2007
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Killer robot posted:

The only difference between cliche and classic is skill of execution.

Yep. The premise of A:TLA was pretty much straight monomyth, and, thus very unoriginal in that sense. But talk about masterful execution. So far, I'm enjoying Korra, and I appreciate every textbook Chekov's gun and other literary/animation/TV trope because it's well written, voiced, animated and accompanied by music.

Jorghnassen
Oct 1, 2007
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Korra will have to use her firebending and waterbending to figure out how to redirect electric shocks. Pass it through the stomach and burp it out if her hands are tied. I figure it would be easier for her to do that than to learn airbending...

Jorghnassen
Oct 1, 2007
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Jim the Nickel posted:

So the Republic City flash has updated. If any of y'all actually manages to figure out how to beat the pro-bending minigame let me know, I'm too dumb to figure it out.

You do it the same way you learned bending in the previous sections. You have to aim for the other symbol from the starting one. After you do all three, you win and complete the game, get a little animation with extra pictures of the spots you visited. That's it.

Jorghnassen
Oct 1, 2007
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Amon is actually a woman! Thus he is a gender bender! His plan for equality is to make everyone androgynous!

OK, enough BS. The new episode can't come fast enough.

E:FB

Jorghnassen
Oct 1, 2007
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2 weeks without a new episode? It's going to go for a while...

I guess we could just follow Bryan Konietzko's Tumblr. Like this post.

Jorghnassen fucked around with this message at May 19, 2012 around 01:06

Jorghnassen
Oct 1, 2007
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FronzelNeekburm posted:

Amon is an anagram of "Noam"! It's all clear now!

Noam, you say? It does make sense!

Jorghnassen
Oct 1, 2007
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Jorenko posted:

My cable's guide claims there is a new episode today.

Yep, no Korra withdrawal symptoms until next week.

Jorghnassen
Oct 1, 2007
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Cabbage merchant statue.

Jorghnassen
Oct 1, 2007
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raditts posted:

Does bloodbending even require a full moon? IIRC, Katara did it in daylight in that one episode where they tracked down her mother's killer.

Your recall is wrong. It was night, and a full moon. Bryan and Mike know their Chekov's guns. And why did you spoiler stuff from another series from 4 years ago?

Jorghnassen
Oct 1, 2007
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Sergeant Hobo posted:

It would seem that Korra has a bigger enemy to fight than Equalist mechs: Powder.

I loved the dramatic, ominous music that seemed to foretell of a dark revelation about Asami's makeup...

Jorghnassen
Oct 1, 2007
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Calico Heart posted:

So that guys cover was that he was celebrating his competitor going out of buisiness

He makes cars

They made cabbages

And everyone just accepts that yeah that must be what he meant

Cabbage Corp has been "Republic City's trusted name in technology for over 50 years" per the radio advert at the beginning of the previous episode. Also mentioned in the "Welcome to Republic City" game on Nick.com's website. The surprisingly knowledgeable merchant of cabbage obviously diversified his products a long time ago.

Jorghnassen
Oct 1, 2007
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Regy Rusty posted:

You've just not been exposed to enough of them. Virtually any work of fiction that gains significant internet following has fans who are obsessed with shipping. Avatar isn't anything unique.

It also requires a large enough cast of mixed genders to be more visible. Take the original Star Trek, you got mostly Spock-Kirk slash fiction. Uhura x whoever, not so much, though I'm sure Scotty-Chekov exists somewhere.

Jorghnassen
Oct 1, 2007
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Ryaomon posted:

My favorite is how Zuko is apparently the perfect guy to them when in the series he pretty much fucks up constantly.

Plus you know, Book 4

Bryan Konietzko recently posted the clean version of that video, without the lovely cam and Comic Con fan screams.

Jorghnassen
Oct 1, 2007
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Cicero posted:

Would firebenders be able to redirect the electricity from the taser gloves?

Possibly... Korra should figure it out, somehow. I mean, she's a waterbender, and Iroh came up with the lightening redirect by studying waterbenders.

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Jorghnassen
Oct 1, 2007
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Poor Naga, Pabu's getting all the love.

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