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Democratic Pirate
Feb 17, 2010
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Fire Ferret owns bones. And it's going to be fun watching benders learn how to fight chi blockers.

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Democratic Pirate
Feb 17, 2010
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Basically if Korra learned bloodbending the entire (probably eventual) show down with Amon will be moot because it'd be all "oh hey you got real close to some of my important chi points, I'm gonna have to back your body up a few steps and then make you throw yourself off of this here building"

Democratic Pirate
Feb 17, 2010
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Bought the HD season pass for Korra off of iTunes. Used some random christmas giftcards to pay all of $5 for it. Probably the best purchase I've made in a while.

Democratic Pirate
Feb 17, 2010
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Fried Chicken posted:

Or you know, they could let non benders take a crack at these problems and see if someone discovers faraday's laws and invents a generator.
If that were true the show would not be going to such lengths to show that the law and order is unjust.

Ahahahahahaha. NO Seriously, what messed up definition of "oppressed" are you using? The Tea Party one? Oppression is the systemic mistreatment of a group of people. Like, for example, barring them from being able to participate in great swaths of society because they weren't born with the same traits as the ruling group.
In regards to the first paragraph, I don't see whats stopping them from doing that now. I'd imagine if someone came up and said "hey I've been studying lightning and made this machine that generates the same amount of electricity as 10 firebenders for less cost," a corporation would jump all over that.

And while I agree that there is evidence of oppression in the Avatar world, what exactly are these great swaths of society you're referring to? So far all I've seen are some industrial jobs, pro-bending, and organized crime. I'm just curious if there's more information that I haven't been picking up.

Democratic Pirate
Feb 17, 2010
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Another thing about the "remove all benders because they are privileged" is how exactly are each bending element different? I get that fire and earth benders are the ones with the most jobs, but what about water and (slowly developing) air? Each could have some uses in transportation, and I would imagine that water healers are desired in hospitals. But going "you must lose your bending because you can heal the wounded faster and better than us!" or "you must lose your air bending because you can do some cool flips and fall from great heights" is a little extreme.

Democratic Pirate
Feb 17, 2010
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I hope they keep bending in as a solution, because that would be dark as gently caress for a kids show. "Hey kids isn't bending elements awesome in this show? Well now nobody can do it because thats magic and if even one person can't do magic, nobody can. "

Democratic Pirate
Feb 17, 2010
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That theory link does bring up that good point of the Lion Turtle poking Aang on two specific points, while Amon only does the forehead. So while it's an important chi spot, it's probably not real energy bending. But of course, nobody in the show would know that and Amon is very convincing.

Democratic Pirate
Feb 17, 2010
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I really don't like the opinion of "hey bending is unfair, take it all away." It's depressing as gently caress. I'd much rather see a final solution of "hey bending is unfair, but if we implement this technology and these political/societal changes, it really has no impact on our quality of life besides how we amuse ourselves." Amon's message can win without Amon winning.

Democratic Pirate
Feb 17, 2010
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Sometimes trawling the mass of crap that reddit puts out pays off:

Democratic Pirate
Feb 17, 2010
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:

Oh poo poo guys, preview clip!
Special Ops action! Holy poo poo! poo poo just keeps getting realer.
edit:Holy poo poo I think those people got loving killed.

Jesus Christ this show owns.

Democratic Pirate
Feb 17, 2010
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Also, the Avatar is generally one of the most spiritual beings in that universe. If Amon can't really energybend, but have that "super chi blocking + fear chakra" switch, which is my favorite theory, it would be much more effective to have Korra think that there really is no more bending because it has been done to more than three criminals and Amon has more public support than he does at this point in the show. If Amon did his energybending to Korra in this episode, she could either go into the Avatar state, or find out the secret behind the trick and get her bending back in a few episodes. And I'm doubting Amon would a) want to fight a fully realized and powered up Avatar, especially on an island built for the last one, or b) deal with the damage to his support that would happen if Korra held a press conference and went "yeah Amon says he took my bending, but I figured out his secret" while casually bending some annoying reporters away.

Democratic Pirate
Feb 17, 2010
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There's not many places where huge block earthbending will be all that useful in this series, it's definitely going to have to be more strategic-based. I wonder if an earthbender could get a job as a city cleaner squad member for fixing cases like Korra's first day in the city where she hosed up half a street.

Democratic Pirate
Feb 17, 2010
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Speaking of badass bending moments, I'm hoping for a flashback to resolve this Yakon situation involving Aang at the height of his powers and casually doing things that normal benders can't even think about.

Democratic Pirate
Feb 17, 2010
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Triskelli posted:

So you've got a large labor pool of lightning benders to run the city. What makes "Lightning Bolt Zolt" so notorious then?
It's his thing. You can't become a good criminal without a thing or nickname. Even if lightning bending is fairly common, I'm guessing most benders don't shoot it at people.

Democratic Pirate
Feb 17, 2010
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Pyroclastic posted:

That said, I'm a little surprised with Korra. The world seems to have advanced a lot more in 70 years than I would have expected. The use of skills like lightning and metalbending were the realm of the Best of the Best in the first series, but now they're commonplace enough to be positions in factories or the police force. I don't like that much.
70 years is a pretty long rear end time for humans to expand something once we figure it out. We went from the Wright brothers in 1903 to sending poo poo to space in 1961. Computer technology has expanded ridiculously fast. I like that the same thing applies in the avatar universe.

Democratic Pirate
Feb 17, 2010
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I felt terrible for Bolin when I watched today, but I'm sure it'll be funny later. I'll probably start calling him Brolin, cause he's a Bro. And that duel was awesome, I love how they could actually wrestle each other as well.


Ah poo poo it's gonna be a duel between Korra and that smarmy dude in the finals.

Democratic Pirate
Feb 17, 2010
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gently caress I missed the episode and the tv its recorded on is 3.5 hours away since I came home from college yesterday. If only nick or itunes updated their sites faster.

Democratic Pirate
Feb 17, 2010
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Remember in TLA when an earth bender was giving Iroh poo poo with his bending? Jerks who have incredible powers can, surprisingly, turn into bigger jerks.

Or maybe he was a non-bender and had swords, I forget the scene.

Democratic Pirate
Feb 17, 2010
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I just hope that's the end of the constant ramp up for the equalitists. Theres a few main threats now: chi blocking and gas stuff, electric hands and batons, those rope ties, sneak attacks, armored air ships, and a giant loving mech suit with most of those things installed. It's time to make the fights more about fighting and not the protagonists going "oh hey this is new". You can still figure out how to fight a threat and have it still be a threat.

Democratic Pirate
Feb 17, 2010
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Jagermonster posted:

I really don't think Amon and Tarlokk are in cahoots. Here's hoping the next episode features the Equalists, in a random attack on the city, attacking the convoy Tarlokk is using to transport Kora, realizing Tarlokk was transporting the avatar and having a requisite "what the gently caress" moment before a crazy three way fight break outs, with Kora just trying to escape.
I could see this happening. Amon attacks because a spy let him know a van with Tarrlok and a prisoner is leaving the city. poo poo goes down and its looking bad for Korra. Boom, Avatar State. Korra then wakes up in a spiritual location like the air temple just in time for the Winter Solstice.

Democratic Pirate
Feb 17, 2010
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Considering Mako had a day job where he had to lightning bend for hours at a time, I don't think its that big a deal to him.

Democratic Pirate
Feb 17, 2010
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I love that they actually put a video of real fire in there (I think). Really brings out the WTF nature of it.

Democratic Pirate
Feb 17, 2010
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After this episode I'm definitely backing the "real but fake energy bending" theory that was brought up a long time ago. Aang made sure to put his thumb on Yakones chest while Amon puts his hand right on the back of their necks.

Democratic Pirate
Feb 17, 2010
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landcollector posted:

I think you may be overthinking this. Perhaps there is more than one way to perform energybending?

http://atla-annotated.tumblr.com/po...-the-lionturtle

Democratic Pirate
Feb 17, 2010
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Ultimate air bending is earth bending. By that I mean creating a giant hurricane and throwing boulders and trees through people.

Democratic Pirate
Feb 17, 2010
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After watching the episode again on my computer, that waterbender in the background is definitely Yakones wife. Unless Tarrlok was a confused young man who had a woman's body and wore earrings.

Democratic Pirate
Feb 17, 2010
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I would be incredibly happy with Season 2 being Team Avatar solves petty crimes with the backstory being of Lin taking down all of the big criminal underworld. However, Lin is smart enough to make it look like Korra & Co. do all the hard work so she doesn't raise suspicion.

Basically Kick rear end with Korra.

Democratic Pirate
Feb 17, 2010
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Next week:

Mako: "I'm just gonna lightning-bend stuff and not say anything until the fightings done."

Democratic Pirate
Feb 17, 2010
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ImpAtom posted:

Holding out hope Lin hijacks a mecha suit before the final.

"I might not be able to bend it anymore, but I still know my way around metal "

Democratic Pirate
Feb 17, 2010
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DrSunshine posted:

What the heck were the Equalists even doing when the Airbending kids made their big heroic entry? They were just standing around staring at them, waiting to get airbent! What happened to the take-no-prisoners crazy ninja stunts?

But then you'd have ninjas beating up some tiny kids, on a family show, so that's out of the question. Ah well. They should've at least tried to dodge or something!

It's probably also training failing to kick in. You kind of see it with Asami, where she can take care of a bunch of dudes quickly because they're not prepared to fight a non-bender. I'd assume it's even worse when you have to fight: a- little kids who didn't do anything wrong b- bending the style that there isn't much information on c- fartbending

Democratic Pirate
Feb 17, 2010
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Mako gets debended for good and leans on Asami more heavily, solving the couple problem. General Iroh comes in and is the new Team Avatar Firebender.

Season 2 is Team Avatar sailing around with the Navy doing cool stuff.

Democratic Pirate
Feb 17, 2010
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Humans are generally pretty good at figuring things out once we have a vague idea of how to do it. If all the metal benders got de-bended it wouldn't be long before some other person figured it out, especially if the de-bended people are around to give pointers.

Democratic Pirate
Feb 17, 2010
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Amon has been playing the very long game and hired the fire bender who killed Sato's wife. poo poo if it wasn't for his support the equalists would still be hiding in basements and occasionally conducting small scale raids and rallies.

Democratic Pirate
Feb 17, 2010
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't remember Asami being whiny about Mako while actually in a direct conflict. She gets pissy in the downtimes of an extremely stressful situation, which is to be expected. She handles poo poo that comes her way and then getting mad in the downtime. Air Temple Island wasn't in the middle of a battle when she had that kitchen conversation, she tells Mako to get in the back of a car and then drives it capably. Grumbling in the tunnel isn't unexpected, there are a lot of examples of stories using that travel time to have conflict come up like "hey, I think the captains getting a little out of control, I don't like this."

She's not being the happiest person around, but I think it's reasonable.

Democratic Pirate
Feb 17, 2010
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Captain Oblivious posted:

The primary problem with the notion that benders aren't a real danger to non-benders is the extent to which it is difficult to disarm them, and the fact that many of the crimes made possible by their abilities leave no evidence.

Same problem as mages in most fantasy settings really. Not as drastic, but functionally the same problem.

Fire bending would probably disagree with you there.

Hell, a smart serial killer who can't bend should probably just start slicing people with a knife and then leaving a few icicles around to melt.

Democratic Pirate
Feb 17, 2010
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Yeah I'm watching Power Rangers this is awesome.

Democratic Pirate
Feb 17, 2010
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Genocyber posted:

Also, what about Asami? Now she has neither her father or her lover.

Gonna get Iroh, moving up the firebender ladder.

Democratic Pirate
Feb 17, 2010
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Obligatory Toast posted:

All this ending has shown me is that, at it's heart, Korra is still a kid's show and some of you are way too emotionally invested in a kid's show.

Yeah pretty much. I do think that if they had 2 seasons the ending would've been more of Aang going "hey you can fix this SPIRITUAL JOURNEY TIME"

Democratic Pirate
Feb 17, 2010
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Dumbest part

:"you'll have to have patience with her, she takes time"

*5 seconds later*

"ok love you too boy that took some time"

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Democratic Pirate
Feb 17, 2010
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So now we know the best way to defeat bloodbending.


Murder-suicide.

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