The Legend of Korra: "I'm the Avatar, you gotta DEAL WITH IT!"

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FronzelNeekburm: Jun 1, 2001; STOP, MORTTIME

CapnAndy posted:

The ultimate evolved form of Airbending is time travel, and Aang and Korra and their respective crews team up to fight Koh and his army of other, smaller face-stealers.

The Avatar Scrolls VI: Black Swamp

# ¿ Apr 12, 2012 01:38

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# ¿ May 23, 2013 04:54

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Elder Crain posted:

And a bunch of other acquired programming and I'm sure there's at least a few more modern ones that fill out the list. With the exception of a few on that list, these weren't "girl-oriented" shows. Just Nick being awesome and writing awesome characters regardless of gender.

Sometimes it's just easier to spot the lack of character development in shows targeted specifically at girls. You can fill a show for boys with explosions and guns, and they'll still watch it. But when the conflict in your show is variations on "Can we plan this party in time?!" it's easier to spot a cast of characters who are differentiated by one adjective (the brainy one, the silly one, the prissy one) and a hairstyle.

Korra sort of picks the easiest solution here by putting a girl in charge of the explosions, but it will also probably have more thoughtful stories and character motivations. Hopefully, that "traditional wisdom" is slooooowly starting to change, since networks can see successful shows challenging it whenever a show breaks out of the typical mold.

Then again, did they ever make any figures of the girls in ATLA? Toy companies may be the last driving force behind these problems.

Quackenbush posted:

In fact quite the contrary, normal duels involved more movement, much bigger and longer fire blasts, more water volume and MUCH more earth volume being moved and the participants never seemed to run out of bending

Clearly, Aang's generation was the Greatest Generation of their world.

# ¿ Apr 15, 2012 19:12

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Bocom posted:

Amon is clearly Amon-Ra reincarnated. I mean come on!

Holy Ra! Real sky-bison!

# ¿ Apr 16, 2012 04:13

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RyuujinBlueZ posted:

Also nothing saying Amon hasn't been corrupted by it, or won't be.

"Do you hear that, Miss Avatar-son? That is the sound of inevitability."

# ¿ Apr 19, 2012 02:37

FronzelNeekburm: Jun 1, 2001; STOP, MORTTIME

Curse you, broken DVR!

With all the spoiler clips they've been dropping, I kinda felt like I'd already seen this whole episode. Maybe it's time to ignore Korra escept on Saturday mornings.

Star Guarded posted:

I'm wondering if Mako is going to flip for the equalists eventually His backstory gives him motive.

It's nearly inevitable that he either has a fake conversion or has a debae with Amon during a crisis of faith. But I don't see him actually flipping, if only because there aren't that many good guys in the show yet.

Classtoise posted:

Did anyone get the other Triad names? I only managed to catch the Agni Kais.

"The Triple Threats, the Red Monsoons, the Agni Kais?"

Bongo Bill posted:

Lightning being used in power plants is evidence of once-rare knowledge being spread to the masses. Sure it's difficult, but so is bending competently at all. If you know how it's done, then that's that. Creates the idea of only certain classes of people being suitable for certain kinds of work, which is an interesting concrete example of the sort of social themes one presumes the Equalists will expound on.

I think this also illustrates why Amon is wrong. Sure, only firebenders can work at the plant. But as the scene with Mako shows, it's just tough, specialized work that benefits everyone. Non-benders may not be able to work there, but electricity should be providing many opportunities for everyone.

# ¿ Apr 21, 2012 20:04

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Fried Chicken posted:

This is pretty much the exact justification given for about every type of discrimination, ever.

So should they not have electricity? And if the cars run on gasoline, as I think someone said earlier, why are they pretty much only using it for radios and lights?

Some people have an unfair advantage in life. But technology is an equalizer, as we can see with Amon's shock troops. Obviously, it's not working out for Republic City, but with enough invention, they could pretty much relegate firebenders to nothing but furnace duty.

If Republic City wants to give up all bending in exchange for not having modern conveniences, maybe it works out for them. But most people don't usually choose that option.

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That he is going around hurting people is what makes him a foe in the storytelling sense. Therefor we can reasonably infer that life without bending really sucks, even without drawing upon all the examples of bias we have seen.

Challenging law and order will be what makes him a villain. Korra agrees that Republic City needs to be cleaned up. But unless Amon teaches everyone else his trick, he's creating a power vacuum that can be exploited by the other kingdoms, and the only way to enforce order will be the development of more powerful weapons, which he currently seems to be the sole source of.

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You should do yourself a favor and read up on the treatment of coal miners at the start of the 20th century. Back then they were the ones who powered all of society. Yesterday was the 96th anniversary of the Ludlow Massacre, that would be a decent place to start.

You have this backwards. If non-benders are the ones being oppressed, then they should be the ones doing the work. They are not. The real problem is the lack of employment for non-benders, which is due to lack of innovation or interference from the gangs or the city leaders. We don't know yet why, but it's a common pattern in early industrial periods. Yet we see that Korra was living out in ~~Tatooine~~ the country just fine, so the people who move to Republic City see promise there. The solution is to deliver on that promise, and it may be too early in technology's development to do so.

# ¿ Apr 21, 2012 22:28

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Fried Chicken posted:

Don't be dense. You parroted the same line of nonsense used to justify discrimination throughout history - that one side is "obviously" better, that they do all the work, and that the others should know their place. Except throughout history that has never been true, and it still isn't true in Avatar.

You're having trouble understanding that in this cartoon world, they are naturally more talented than someone who doesn't have magical elemental super powers. Would you say Superman is exactly equal to Jimmy Olsen? No.

That doesn't mean benders are better than regular people at everything, nor that they are even "superior" people in the way you are trying to argue. This isn't about black people being enslaved because their societies didn't happen to have developed as quickly as European militaries. It's because they are literally magical in a way only potentially two people in the entire world can solve.

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Or you know, they could let non benders take a crack at these problems and see if someone discovers faraday's laws and invents a generator.

How do you know they haven't tried? How do you know they can't?

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If that were true the show would not be going to such lengths to show that the law and order is unjust.

They have not. They showed that the police are interested in keeping the peace, and that they can't -- or won't -- stop the gangs. We have no reason yet to believe that Police Chief Bei Fong is corrupt, nor that the city council is. But organized crime clearly does take advantage of their weakness.

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The other kingdoms run Republic City, without the locals having representation.

Where is this stated?

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Oppression is the systemic mistreatment of a group of people. Like, for example, barring them from being able to participate in great swaths of society because they weren't born with the same traits as the ruling group.

Normal people aren't oppressed because they have a different skin color, or because they have the wrong blood type or something. They don't have ability to SHOOT FIRE. And short of Amon's solution, you can't enforce equality the way we can in the real world. This is why I said normal people need technological advancement to level the playing field, or else they will always be second-class citizens.

This is a cartoon world with cartoon problems. It is not equivalent to our world and our problems.

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It doesn't matter if a non bender could invent the diesel generator, they can't work in a power plant.

And he wouldn't need to.

# ¿ Apr 22, 2012 02:18

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squeak posted:

Amon appears to be taking advantage by stoking the flames of natural jealousy and resentment, but not addressing the actual issue. He's drumming up a war for nothing. Benders and non-benders rely on one another, but he's more partial to dividing them and ignoring their mutual relationship.

I think you've nailed the underlying problem. In old times, benders were an integral part of their small communities. War? Famine? Flood? Benders can deal with these things. They also provided services to the community: transportation, energy, agriculture, defense, and so on.

As technology advances, modern cities develop, and war and disaster fade into distant memory, that traditional role benders held in society becomes unnecessary. But taking away all bending merely hurts everyone until they can invent alternatives to bending-powered society.

I'm betting the solution is not taking away or giving everyone bending, but to help Republic City promote that spiritual side of bending Tenzin talked about. Before, benders served their community because if they didn't work, they didn't eat. Now, they need a new purpose that fulfills that civic duty. I'm curious how they will do so without turning Republic City into a military state.

# ¿ Apr 22, 2012 20:56

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Triskelli posted:

How about we stop the for a second and just try and figure out the most adorable combination of animals that could exist in the Avatar universe.

You can never beat the turtle-duck. It is just too adorable.

# ¿ Apr 24, 2012 03:45

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Tornhelm posted:

The Yuan is probably a unit of currency similar to the Yen, so yeah about $3-400 sounds about right.

The yuan is actually Chinese currency, which is about 6 to the US dollar right now. Not that that necessarily has anything to do with Avatar World money.

Pastrymancy posted:

The Avatar has a lot of media clout. I'm surprised they didn't get sponsorship offers already.

Clearly, that proposed throw-down between Korra and Amon is a desperate grab for pay-per-view cash.

# ¿ Apr 24, 2012 20:08

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Hobohemian posted:

You seem to be taking it really personally. You realize he's discussing these things from a narrative standpoint, right? As in, "what would make the story more interesting?".

I don't get that impression from the people who are determined to use the show as an allegory for all their other favorite arguments about race/sex/privilege/basketball.

Captain Oblivious posted:

As for whether it should be handled by a court of law yes it probably should but in the current paradigm the court of law is assuredly to be under the control of benders who have no interest in curtailing their own power.

This thread would be a lot shorter and easier to read if we could avoid making assumptions about that world beyond what the show provides. We know nothing about the court system, and we know very little about the life of the average citizen, no matter how compelling a story it might make.

# ¿ Apr 26, 2012 00:08

FronzelNeekburm: Jun 1, 2001; STOP, MORTTIME

I would have less of an issue with that if the assumptions didn't all seem to boil down to, "Of course THE MAN is gonna stamp out the poor non-bender! It's obvious!"

# ¿ Apr 26, 2012 00:29

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tsob posted:

Do we have any kind of viewing figure estimates for episode 3 yet? I'm interested to know how many of the, was it 4.4 million viewers the premier had?, were retained.

Korra got 3.5 million viewers for episode 3, falling to 10th overall for the week behind Monsters, Inc. and just behind Spongebob.

visceril posted:

How long are people supposed to live in the avatar world?

Katara would have to be, what, 85 by now? But on the other hand, she has magic water healing skills and is the only one left alive so far from the original series.

Kild posted:

Episode 4 + 5 was leaked.

This is going to be A:TLA season 2 on iTunes all over again, isn't it.

Triskelli posted:

Okay, okay. I think I first heard about shipping in relation to A:TLA, and just the endless combinations of names and the creators constantly poking fun at it really cemented it in my mind as the home of these shenanigans. Seriously? Makorra? Masami? Zutara, Kataang, Kolin, and that's not even getting into the crack pairings.

Wikipedia says it's been in common usage at least since the mid-'90s on Usenet, and there have been obsessed fangirls at least as far back as Kirk and Spock.

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# ¿ Apr 26, 2012 23:03

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farraday posted:

They turned Aang into a clocktower?

It worked for the crocodile.

There's one shot from Korra's nap that isn't in that screenshots post:

Is that the "old threat" people are talking about? Was that from the comics or something?

# ¿ Apr 28, 2012 15:53

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tsob posted:

Presumably. I wonder was he an anti-bender revolutionist/activist or a really dangerous bender who had his power taken away?

If he had a little more beard, he'd look like Zhao. Guess that's the Villainy Face.

Pastrymancy posted:

The other council member seem really easily swayed, and that's not a good sign.

They remind me of the council from Judge Dredd.

# ¿ Apr 28, 2012 16:14

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Jesto posted:

The introduction of that new girl was really, really awkward and she seems to only exist to force an inevitable love triangle subplot and resolve the 'no money' plot.

She definitely seems like a backstabbing waiting to happen, somehow or other. Their relationship is just too perfect, and Avatar didn't let things work out that nicely for Zuko and Mai, who seem like the closest fit.

Watching this episode, my biggest impression is that this really ought to have been longer. Either hour-long episodes, or more of them. They are flying through the story compared to the original, and if the whole Equalist thing is going to be wrapped up in 13 episodes, I worry that we'll lose some of that world detail and character-building that made Avatar so special.

Great job from Korra's actress pulling back from the typical bravado to subdued worry.

Sato's pretty smart, sponsoring the team that the Avatar plays on. I wonder when he'll start pushing her to hawk windshield wiper blades and premium tires.

Next episode: the most anime douchebag opponent ever!

# ¿ Apr 29, 2012 00:37

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Sergeant Hobo posted:

Interesting that you should mention that. A few days old but oh well.

I have a lot of respect for Production I.G., but I think they got the better end of the deal.

# ¿ May 2, 2012 10:41

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Sergeant Hobo posted:

My sense is telling me that the writers intended that to be the whole point of this episode. Get all the Shippers riled up and all simultaneously let down so we can concentrate on the actual conflicts in the show (the tournament, that guy named Amon). Just a collective "shut the gently caress up, already!" to the shippers.

As much as we know Bryan and Mike like needling the fans, I think this was precisely what you said, but simply for the purpose of airing out all the romantic tension in one episode so they can acknowledge that it's there, then ignore it as much as they want from now on. Never talk about dating again? Oh, it's because they all understand each other now. Want to make Korra and Mako an item later on? The door's still open.

Much as I like the idea of pro-bending, I was hoping it wouldn't turn into quite so much into the "miraculous one-on-three clincher" clich� that dominated this episode.

Bolin really did save the episode; I don't think I could've handled an entire episode of Korra and Mako being moody at each other.

Did they not air an episode preview? I'm waiting for the "Korra has to regain her confidence versus Amon" shoe to drop, and the more tournament fighting they do, the less show that's left for that.

Solaris Knight posted:

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They're the noodliest, my good hotman!

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# ¿ May 5, 2012 15:53

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ImpAtom posted:

It honestly sounds like people are freaking out because people on the internet do weird things moreso than a problem with the episode itself.

SomethingAwful in a nutshell.

Pakled posted:

So I'd talk about how awesome Bolin was in this episode but that's already been covered, so I'll just say that the pro-bending champion guy has to be the most anime character in the whole Avatar franchise.

He should be disqualified from the tournament for being a master hairbender.

Fried Chicken posted:

and she ginishes them off by dropping the probending techniques, taking a solid stance and using classic waterbending to blast them.

Y'know, that's one thing I'm waiting for the iTunes copy to rewatch: I'm wondering if she was saying in the right zone in that match and following their "just use short blasts of your element" rules.

# ¿ May 5, 2012 23:34

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DoctorWhat posted:

ACTUALLY, what if Korra makes an airbending breakthrough during the finals, it's obvious to everyone that she airbended (even if by accident)... and she gets DQ'd and the Fire Ferrets LOSE!? A kind of pyrrhic victory for Korra!

Amon arrives just before the Fire Ferrets win. Korra, sensing danger, goes into the Avatar State, pulls the entire moat up, and freezes him and herself for a hundred years.

And then for season two, we can finally get Robo-Momo!

# ¿ May 7, 2012 07:52

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blurry! posted:

I'm more talking a hurt and emotionally confused ex-bender Mako falling through emotionally dense Korra's fingers into the hands of the Other Woman, who brings him into the Equalist path. He's lost and vulnerable, reaches out and Asami is there, not our Heroine. He's susceptible to Equalist propaganda, but of course he will be Brought Back at the Maximized Dramatic Impact by Korra, who redeems herself for a past failure and wins her man.

It's a possibility (although a pretty long shot to make Mako sympathize with his attackers), but I'm starting to worry a little about the length of the season. Having that much time and effort invested in making Mako such a deep character would really be a challenge, and I'm not sure they could actually do anyone other than him and Korra justice if they went that route. It'd basically be the entire three-season story of Zuko in about six episodes.

# ¿ May 7, 2012 22:20

FronzelNeekburm: Jun 1, 2001; STOP, MORTTIME

So, another flashback, another set of shots of Toph, Aang, and Mystery Man that Aang went all Avatar State on.

Kinda seeming like we're getting Amon's backstory four frames at a time. Assuming Korra gets knocked out enough times in the next seven-ish episodes to tell us the tale, that is.

DarklyDreaming posted:

Edit: And of course Tarlok insists on following her plan ONLY if she takes responsibility for it.

Chief Justice Bei Fong is about to be sent into the Cursed Earth to take the Law to the lawless.

# ¿ May 12, 2012 16:12

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Fried Chicken posted:

I liked at the end, Mako runs up and hugs her. Then Bolin tries to join in, hugs them both and Mako glares at him. Don't ruin the moment dude!

Next episode: "Mako, why didn't you come looking for ME?!

# ¿ May 12, 2012 18:10

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Superstring posted:

I think something that's been hinted but left unsaid by the creators is that it would be really, really hard to maintain the animation quality Korra has if they got bumped up to a full 24 episode season.

The Legend of Korra, season 2: Coming fall 2019!

# ¿ May 14, 2012 08:23

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Cardboard Box A posted:

New theory

Amon is Asami

Amon is an anagram of "Noam"! It's all clear now!

# ¿ May 19, 2012 11:57

FronzelNeekburm: Jun 1, 2001; STOP, MORTTIME

That's a heck of a lot of platinum.

Those mechs are pretty crazy for '20s era development. I wonder if they have any reasonable limits on how long they can stay active, like an Eva, or if they are powered by Magic Lightning like everything else.

Also, what the heck were those vulture things during the raid on Cabbage Corp? Gargoyle-pigeons?

P.S. Aside from turning into Bat-fong, why would you give up your airships etc. to take Amon down OUTSIDE THE LAW, unless you suspect Tarlokk of being a snake in the grass?

# ¿ May 19, 2012 15:36

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plx l Jezmonster posted:

How about a giant robot vs giant Aang statue controled via avatar state finale? Or is that way to anime for this?

Look! A three-headed fire ferret!

# ¿ May 19, 2012 16:14

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dr_rat posted:

Seems like that would go against a lot of what the first series was about, that a person always needs to make their own choices and doesn't have to just follow what those around them are doing. We saw her make a choice, and honestly I think it would cheapen that message a lot if it turned out the choice she just made was just a trick and meaningless.

Asami didn't necessarily just find out about her father in this episode, though. If she's a turncoat, I'd expect that she was in on it from the beginning, and she and her father had planned for the possibility of being discovered. He takes the fall (but doesn't get caught), and she stays close to Team Korra to better stab them in the back later.

That said, I'd rather not have her get a few episodes of development here in the second half of the season, then wipe it all out and be evil. Except for being able to rub it in Mako's face, which is starting to look pretty appealing.

Serella posted:

Because she can't do what she needs to do within the bounds of the law, and she can't focus on protecting civilians and taking down Amon

I guess I have a hard time understanding what she can't do, since she can just sail a blimp anywhere in the city and just bust into people's training camps/warehouses/factories on rumors and the Avatar's say-so.

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# ¿ May 19, 2012 19:29

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Pakled posted:

It seems like shooting rocks through the window to hit the pilot would be a pretty effective tactic.

A shame Lin's *SNIKT* didn't quite succeed. Is there any superhero she can't be?

# ¿ May 19, 2012 21:37

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Acebuckeye13 posted:

I'm fairly certain there was one in Halo 2 and the Fallout: New Vegas Lonesome Road DLC as well.

And Half-Life.

blurry! posted:

Evidently warrants aren't really needed, so what's stopped the government from shutting down the Triads? Apparently they're running around doing their dirty business in broad daylight, including murder. Maybe bender privilege manifests itself by weak prosecution of bender-on-non crime.

I'm more inclined to believe the police just can't handle that level of crime. If the gangs are as widespread as we've seen so far, there might not be enough cops to take them down. Or if Lin doesn't see the problem, some of her cops may be on the take. Or as the first episode suggests, while hunting down Amon might not require a warrant, Lin insists on doing everything else by the book. She might not want the mob bosses to weasel their way out of conviction (although that's a small consolation to the people they extort).

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# ¿ May 20, 2012 10:29

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AlmightyPants posted:

It is safe to assume that due to the fact that the Earth Kingdom and Fire Kingdom appointed their representatives, after all they are monarchies with kings and queens and whatnot. In the case of the Northern Water tribe, things are a little bit less clear, due to having a tribal leader as well as a princess, in Yue, as an example. It still does not seem to be a representative system of government. The Southern Water tribe is also tribal, although lines of succession and power mandates are also unclear. Tenzin is the representative for the Air Nomads because he's the only adult Air Nomad in the world.

The Republic City Council would therefore seem to be mostly, if not entirely (minus Tenzin, the outlier), be composed directly of the appointees of unelected governments. If there was only one water tribe member this would be wrong, but as there are two the council would seem to be made up of representatives of different world governments.

It's odd that the Water Tribe has two representatives, since the Water Tribe wasn't really considered two separate people in the old series, even if years of war had kept them apart. At least, not any more than all the separate Earth Kingdom cities. That may have changed after the war ended, but I wonder if they originally got two seats on the council simply to have a tie-breaker in votes.

# ¿ May 23, 2012 17:21

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Undead Unicorn posted:

I have a very stupid, obvious theory here that I can't keep to myself. Isn't it likely the firebender who killed everyone's loved ones is the same guy? Maybe the next season's antagonist?

Like the sci-fi classic Ghosts of Mars, the ancient spirits of firebender serial-killers were mistakenly released by the Mechanist, and now they inhabit the bodies of firebenders, urging them to kill.

The season will end with Korra and Bolin grabbing chrome air gliders and hunting them down.

# ¿ May 25, 2012 16:06

FronzelNeekburm: Jun 1, 2001; STOP, MORTTIME

I guess Lin didn't just go OUTSIDE THE LAW; she seems to be totally off the grid.

# ¿ Jun 2, 2012 16:01

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QuoProQuid posted:

According to the Nickelodeon website, Tarrlok is 37 and the youngest ever member of the Council.

If he's Yakon's son, you'd think "I'm the son of that convict who wrecked a courtroom full of benders" would be a tough campaign to sell.

# ¿ Jun 2, 2012 16:18

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After a bit more thought, I think the thing that's bugging me is why Korra flipped on Tarlokk at the start of this episode. Given how much of a meathead she is, I guess she likes Lin now, and Tarlokk kicked Lin out, but I was surprised that she took Tenzin's side so quickly.

I'm also very eager to hear how the bloodbending secret slipped out -- or how Korra even knows about it. Doesn't seem like a thing Katara would have passed on, but maybe she felt the Avatar had to know about it.

Bocc Kob posted:

Also, how did Korra get acknowledged as a firebending, earthbending, and waterbending master when she sucks at everything? Actually using bending she just brute forces everything and her pro-bending skills were mostly her physical attributes. Even taking into account she gets mad and loses focus, you'd think at least one bending teacher would've noticed it during training.

Well, the very first episode is the bending masters doing precisely that. Only Katara was willing to declare her finished with her training aside from airbending and the spiritual aspect.

As for her real skills, the White Lotus definitely wouldn't have encouraged her to kill, and even a rigorous study of martial arts in the classroom is not necessarily going to prepare you for a real fight. At least this episode shows she's learning, a little, even if she keeps forgetting she's a natural waterbender. Tossing a wall is a start.

namesake posted:

Also does this constitute evidence of non-bender ghettos?

Well, it definitely does now.

# ¿ Jun 2, 2012 23:15

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dog days are over posted:

Is there? Did I miss something? I've only very recently gotten into Avatar.

"There's a lot you don't know about me." -- Tarrlok, this episode

# ¿ Jun 2, 2012 23:17

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dog days are over posted:

Memory like a goldfish I tells ya.

I've made the same mistake with this show.

# ¿ Jun 2, 2012 23:25

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blurry! posted:

Systematic oppression of non-benders by benders, check.

Korra's previous expectations continuing their rate-of-dashing against the figurative rocks of reality, with her realizing that she was in support of an oppressive regime that did not represent equally the population's interests, and doing an alignment shift that isn't working with Amon, but is as much for non-benders as it is benders, check.

Tarlokk pulling the fascism card and taking control of the city by seizing the police force, followed by immense crack-downs on non-benders, and labeling Korra as an instigator and trouble maker, check.

Honestly, while it's tense/exciting/thematically symmetrical, I'm not sure I like having Tarrlok play so obviously into the deranged super-villain mentality, especially just going full-Nazi and locking up entire city blocks to provoke and justify more draconian laws.

I guess I don't need this to be a story where benders are always the bad guys just to make a statement about privilege. It lets us weigh crazy terrorist Amon against insane super-McCarthy Tarrlok, but I feel it's important to also realize that things aren't always black and white. Neither of those men is "right," just like not all benders or non-benders are "the good guys." We got that distinction with the Sato family, but not with this episode.

# ¿ Jun 3, 2012 22:23

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uberwekkness posted:

I don't know if they're intentionally releasing those comics at specific times, but I wonder if Korra's going to have a major breakthrough while locked in the back of that car.

If only there was some sort of Republic City pro sport involving getting knocked out constantly, Korra would become the most powerful Avatar ever.

# ¿ Jun 4, 2012 07:47

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Jorghnassen posted:

~~Lu Ten~~ Sokka, when the walls fell.

# ¿ Jun 6, 2012 23:37

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