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Billy Idle
Sep 25, 2009


TheJoker138 posted:

I feel like that if the movie was really being as critical of the audiences and creators of horror films as some of you seem to believe, it wouldn't have turned out nearly as well as it did. There seemed, to me at least, to be a genuine love of these tropes and cliches behind everything. Was it making fun of them as well, and calling them out for being cliches? gently caress yeah, but there also seemed to be an appreciation for them. The idea of the gods being an audience surrogate is actually really appealing, and as LesterGroans says, the idea that at the end it fails and "something new" comes about is a really interesting one, and I agree with that reading of it.

I can see where this interpretation is coming from, but it seems like there's an internal contradiction within the movie itself. If the Ancient Ones represent horror movie audiences, then the movie seems to be portraying them as wrathfully demanding conformity to established tropes--so much, in fact, that if there is the slightest deviation in the horror movie formula they'll get so pissed off that they'll rise up and destroy the world. The only way this could be interpreted as a metaphor for paving the way for a new, more creative universe of horror movies is if the traditional horror audiences getting pissed off and savaging movies like this would somehow lead to more movies like this, which doesn't really make sense.

Maybe I'm overthinking this....or underthinking this. I don't know. Now where'd I put my collapsible coffee thermos bong?

e: I think axleblaze's interpretation makes the most sense. It's like Whedon and Goddard are saying, "gently caress it. If audiences want to punish horror movies for being innovative and creative, then we might as well cede to them dominion over the genre and let them kill off the last of the talented horror filmmakers like they were nothing more than a bunch of sex-positive co-eds." Like some sort of nihilist defeatist attitude.

Though, once again, this would conflict with Marty's contention that allowing the Ancient Ones to take over actually would be giving something new a chance. Arrrgh.

Billy Idle fucked around with this message at Apr 14, 2012 around 07:58

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Billy Idle
Sep 25, 2009


degauss posted:

Amy Acker in her underwear.

Yeah, I definitely would have remembered that.

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