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ImpAtom posted:Do you have non-VGChartz sales numbers for FE11? They're the only place I've seen it mentioned and are obviously completely worthless when it comes to that. Everything I've heard is that it underperformed. I'm pretty sure I had seen sales figures in the past, though looking for them now, I can only find VGChartz. So I might be wrong on this part, though the game was still well received by reviewers.
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I totally called that first spoiler on the first page.
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| # ? Apr 18, 2012 01:25 |
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Ahaha, the Marth spoiler is great. I was hoping for it and my friend was pretty confident that it was going to happen, so its great to be vindicated, plus it seems like it'll be a really cool plot/character thing. Time to start making this look like a CIA document! Apparently you can pair up Nono too for Manakete children. I really, really hope that her high voice is just a Japanese female VA thing and her height is just her being short. There's a battle sprite that seems to indicate she has boobs (a sort of breast/bikini thing?) which would indicate development to a somewhat less icky stage to peruse romance in. Yeah, I'm basically clinging to everything I can that indicates I won't have to engage in pedophilia for MAXIMUM DRAGONS.
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| # ? Apr 18, 2012 04:53 |
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Her daughter has a support in which she asks if her father just liked little girls. Sorry, but that's the reality of it.
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Arbitrary Coin posted:(Awakening) Apparently you can pair up Nono too for Manakete children. I really, really hope that her high voice is just a Japanese female VA thing and her height is just her being short. There's a battle sprite that seems to indicate she has boobs (a sort of breast/bikini thing?) which would indicate development to a somewhat less icky stage to peruse romance in. Yeah, (Awakening) Momomo's unfortunately got the right of it. I'm just going to ignore it, or hope for a best case scenario where it gets dummied out during localization. It's a shame really, but I kind of saw it coming when they announced the lovers system coming back. That poo poo prints money, sadly enough. Cake Attack fucked around with this message at Apr 18, 2012 around 16:35 |
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Don't forget though, there's still adult Tiki. Though, I still find the concept kind of creepy.
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| # ? Apr 18, 2012 05:23 |
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On a brighter note, I'm 6 chapters into Maniac mode on my JP copy of PoR, and man, it is not easy. I'm sure it'll lighten up later on, hard modes in FE usually do in my experience, but man.
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FE7 is one of my favorite games of all time, but also the only FE that I ever really got into. It was also hard as poo poo for me because I'm not good at SRPGs. I still haven't beaten HHM  .
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| # ? Apr 18, 2012 05:49 |
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Was there any official statement/reasoning for not porting FE12? I'm currently waiting if there will be a NA release for FE13 after all, because if I'm going to buy a 3DS it will be a US one because I want to play Etrian Odyssey 4 and Rune Factory 4 which likely will never come out in the EU zone. Seriously, gently caress region locks. What a terrible choice.
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| # ? Apr 18, 2012 06:45 |
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FrickenMoron posted:Was there any official statement/reasoning for not porting FE12? I'm currently waiting if there will be a NA release for FE13 after all, because if I'm going to buy a 3DS it will be a US one because I want to play Etrian Odyssey 4 and Rune Factory 4 which likely will never come out in the EU zone. Not officially, but I'd be surprised if we didn't get Awakening. 12 was the sequel to a game that wasn't that popular overseas (apparently Japan loves the Marth games), and was a text heavy game on the tail end of the DS's life cycle. Awakening is coming out on a newer handheld that gets a fair bit of flak for not having enough software. Seems to be a fairly big difference in situation, although maybe I'm just optimistic.
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So, can we have the Awakening spoilers clearly marked as such? I don't want to spoil myself on Awakening, and given that this is a megathread, an unmarked spoiler could be anything from something small like (FE7) Elbert dies so Nergal can open the Dragon's Gate to a detailed dissertation on (FE9/10) Zelgius's motivation as the Black Knight over the course of both games. And I'm sure I'm not the only one who doesn't want spoiled.
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I never played FE9 but I love 10 to death. I know it gets tons of flack for the unbalanced nature of the different groups but I genuinely like that aspect of the game. I think it's a mechanical way to display a theme of how powerful characters are. Does FE9 have an "easy" mode like 10 does, or in battle saves at least? I'm thinking about giving it a shot.
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| # ? Apr 18, 2012 15:41 |
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Levantine posted:I know it gets tons of flack for the unbalanced nature of the different groups but I genuinely like that aspect of the game... Anyway, yeah, FE9 has an easy mode, at least in the US release. No in-battle saves though, unless you count the suspend system.
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| # ? Apr 18, 2012 15:53 |
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Levantine posted:I never played FE9 but I love 10 to death. I know it gets tons of flack for the unbalanced nature of the different groups but I genuinely like that aspect of the game. I think it's a mechanical way to display a theme of how powerful characters are. Trust me, you'll be fine with FE9 as far as the difficulty goes.
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Levantine posted:I never played FE9 but I love 10 to death. I know it gets tons of flack for the unbalanced nature of the different groups but I genuinely like that aspect of the game. I think it's a mechanical way to display a theme of how powerful characters are. FE9 actually has a Normal Mode, an Easy Mode, and a Super Easy Mode. Japan thought that they were the only ones who didn't suck at video games enough to try the real Hard Mode. Speaking of which, Cake Attack, what are some of the bigger changes you've noticed in Maniac Mode?
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I'm pretty glad I played through the Dawn Bridge stuff (Normal) before ever reading any Fire Emblem threads. I never really noticed their segment being egregiously bad and never would have known the popular opinion until I read some threads later on. I mostly just viewed Ike's team and such as just being way better in general!
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Endorph posted:Have you only played FE10 on easy? Don't mean that in a grognardy "you aren't a true FE fan" way but the horrible problems with the Dawn Brigade only really become apparent in Normal and Hard Mode. No no, I played it on easy once (the first time) and on the harder difficulties later. I've played through it a total of maybe about 5 times? Unfortunately real life is a bit of a burden right now so I play a lot of games quickly where I can which is why I asked about Easy mode.
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Wind God Sety posted:FE9 actually has a Normal Mode, an Easy Mode, and a Super Easy Mode. Japan thought that they were the only ones who didn't suck at video games enough to try the real Hard Mode. Speaking of which, Cake Attack, what are some of the bigger changes you've noticed in Maniac Mode? Only 6 chapters in, but all that's really changed is that there are way more enemies with better stats. The first 4 chapters weren't so bad, you just had to be more deliberate, but chapters 5 and 6 were tough as hell. In chapter 5, you pretty much have to use Titania and Gatrie to hold the southern most entrance once the various mounted units show up, when they take turns attacking you they do too much damage for anyone else to survive. If you did that, holding the other side with Oscar/Ike/Shinion isn't so bad, but you still need to be careful. Chapter 6 was probably the worse so far. The enemies were quite literally just as strong as most of my characters, and there were a lot more of them. Oscar could only do ~6 damage per attack, and only occasional double. Ike could double anyone, but he couldn't kill anyone in a round. Even Titania couldn't one round some of the more defensive units. (Hell, she couldn't even double the fastest ones if she used her Steel Axe.) A lot of enemies have Javelins too, which become really threatening on maniac, because you can only take them out on your phase, taking damage in the process. I pretty much had to hole up in the forests near the beginning (using a small chokepoint between two impassable forests), and let Titania hold off the units on the western bridge, while Ike and Oscar used the chokepoint to gradually thin down the units from the east. Also, Oscar's iron lance broke, and he doesn't have a replacement, so it's javelins and short spears for him from now on. Levantine posted:I never played FE9 but I love 10 to death. I know it gets tons of flack for the unbalanced nature of the different groups but I genuinely like that aspect of the game. I think it's a mechanical way to display a theme of how powerful characters are. I was just being objective, I love Radiant Dawn too. It's just so much fun, I think it's the level design. PoR does have an easy mode, although normal on PoR is about the same as easy on RD, if not easier. Cake Attack fucked around with this message at Apr 18, 2012 around 17:27 |
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I agree the level design is pretty good but I also like the double-promotes and such. The game is just so long and it never really has a chance to get boring IMO. I'll give 9 a try, I'm sure I have it around somewhere.
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Cake Attack posted:I was just being objective, I love Radiant Dawn too. It's just so much fun, I think it's the level design. PoR does have an easy mode, although normal on PoR is about the same as easy on RD, if not easier. That's because Radiant Dawn Easy is Normal Mode. In Japan the difficulties were called "Normal, Hard, Maniac" I think this is one of the reasons Radiant Dawn is considered so difficult. People normally go into Normal mode by default. So when they pick that they get a bunch of difficult stuff intended for more experienced players.
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Cake Attack posted:- Great Lord: Krom's promoted class. Gain the ability to use Lances, but remains an infantry unit, which is a series first. I believe you're forgetting about Hector, The Best Lord.
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Momomo posted:Don't forget though, there's still adult Tiki. Though, I still find the concept kind of creepy. (Awakening) Well, good news and bad news on that front. Apparently you can pair adult Tiki for more dragon! Bad news is that only My Unit can be paired with her. On that note, it looks like every female and male character has a child that will time travel to you, and hair colour and maybe some stat and class stuff (I'm not entirely sure because apparently if you pair mu with nono My Unit's corresponding child will be a Manakete) is dependent on who you pair them with. Characters who can only be paired with My Unit (Tiki, Anna, Sairi (myrmidon girl, looks kind of like Ayra), haven't heard anything on the female My Unit side of things but most people playing it are male so.) don't have a child corresponding to them, so you will only get My Unit's child in those pairings.
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KoB posted:I believe you're forgetting about Hector, The Best Lord. Well, the Great Lord promotion for Hector was to stay infantry with swords and axes, while Ephraims was to get a horse but still use just lances. I always thought it was strange that Ephraim and Eirika didn't share a class and weapon types. I'm pretty sure this is the first time the lord has stayed on foot with lances at promotion. Marth: Does not promote. Foot and swords only. Sigurd: Swords first, then horse and lances. Celice: Swords first, then horse and lances. Leaf: Stays on foot with swords all the time Roy: Stays on foot with swords Eliwood: Swords first, then horse and lances Hector: Axes first, then swords on foot Lyn: Swords first, then bows on foot Eirika: Swords on foot, then horse Ephraim: Lances on foot, then horse Ike PoR: Swords on foot all the time Ike RD: Swords on foot, then axes. Micaiah: On foot with magic, then staves(?) //never played RD Elincia: On a horse with swords and staves? Krom: Swords on foot, then lances.
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Technically Sigurd starts out promoted, so he's never horseless or without lances. You're right about Micaiah and Elincia, though Elincia is actually on a Pegasus instead of a horse.
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You're right, but FE4 promotions are weird--Sigurd is a prepromoted version of his son, basically, so he's most comparable to RD Ike or Elincia, I guess? If you reversed his promotion, you'd presumably get Celice's class (and break the game). He's really one of a kind, is what I'm getting at. For me, though, I'd be happy if they didn't use a sword-lord ever again.
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On the other hand, I'd hate to see the game with a Sniperlord.
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I want a mage lord that's not a self hating racist I'm super excited for this since it will be nice to have a great 3DS rpg that's not a remake of something I played before. DrManiac fucked around with this message at Apr 18, 2012 around 22:14 |
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Endorph posted:On the other hand, I'd hate to see the game with a Sniperlord. But a Warlord (bows and axes) would be (at least thematically) great! Especially with a horse.
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While the call of eugenics power gaming is strong, there is only one qualification for pairing with My Unit. Who do I hate the least? Also I could get behind a Bow/Axe MongolLord.
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| # ? Apr 18, 2012 22:39 |
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They've gotta bring Awakening over, NoA needs as much 3DS software on shelves as possible and even if it's not a huge seller Fire Emblem is an established name. I just hope they fast-track it, I really don't want to wait 8 months because I'm super hyped. All the new stuff sounds awesome and most of the tweaks to old systems sound cool too.
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Endorph posted:On the other hand, I'd hate to see the game with a Sniperlord. Better yet, give him magic after promotion. 
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Captain Oblivious posted:While the call of eugenics power gaming is strong, there is only one qualification for pairing with My Unit. Who do I hate the least? Obviously make it a girl My Unit and pair her up with Krom. 
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Man I'm just now reading up on some of the stuff in Awakening and...Taguel. What in living gently caress  And goddamn Velvet, I guess I shouldn't be surprised that the reintroduction of eugenics would lead to some sexified female characters.
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| # ? Apr 18, 2012 23:11 |
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So, (Awakening) Are the children made in the same way they are in FE4? If so, I can totally imagine the eugenics behind the My Unit pairing to be hilarious
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Dr Pepper posted:So, (Awakening) Children characters are determined by the mother, as in FE4, although I don't think the numbers behind it are known. Apparently the father changes some cosmetic stuff (hair color) though which is pretty cool. Cake Attack fucked around with this message at Apr 18, 2012 around 23:34 |
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Cake Attack posted:Children characters are determined by the mother, as in FE4, although I don't think the numbers behind it are known. Apparently the father changes some cosmetic stuff (hair color) though which is pretty cool. So with a second generation of characters I guessing there's a second part to the story then? This info is pretty new to me so it's a pleasant surprise. Really hoping they bring that bundle over the NA now.
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yellowcar posted:So with a second generation of characters I guessing there's a second part to the story then? No, actually. There are time travel shenanigans. Or at least that's how it appears to work so far.
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Cake Attack posted:No, actually. There are time travel shenanigans. Or at least that's how it appears to work so far. This game. Praying that we don't get any "I'm my own grandpa" poo poo. But you know, Japan.
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(All Awakening spoilers) More stuff (I was busy today and haven't had a chance to look stuff up until now). Regarding length it seems to have 27 chapters and 17 sidequests, which is amazing if true. I'll be editing this post, and adding stuff that isn't spoilers into the OP. So, stat caps. Apparently the high stat cap has been bumped from 30 to 50, with most stats capping anywhere from 40-50. Not sure if level caps have been raised proportionally, or if growths are just insane now. Also Either you can or can't have same sex relationships? I dunno, I wasn't clear what was going on with those love charts at Serenes Forest. There had better be, because if they don't let gay couples be a thing but are okay with some of the other couples... 
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I know that at least one character Can hit level 30
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