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Momomo posted:Also, Roy's DLC chapter is exactly the same as Marth's but with different people, and it looks like Micaiah's is also the same too. Looks like Nintendo put the least effort possible into this DLC. This is really disappointing. I can't believe how fast the DLC went from being completely awesome to being so utterly disappointing. I understand they wouldn't be able to do the first map for every game, but they could do something better than recycling the same one over and over.
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| # ? Apr 26, 2012 19:22 |
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TurnipFritter posted:This is really disappointing. I can't believe how fast the DLC went from being completely awesome to being so utterly disappointing. I understand they wouldn't be able to do the first map for every game, but they could do something better than recycling the same one over and over. Why wouldn't they? They're charing like five bucks for these things, they should show some effort.
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| # ? Apr 26, 2012 19:36 |
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The Japanese aren't too thrilled about putting effort into DLC as a whole in general. Much less price them accordingly. Doesn't surprise me one bit.
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| # ? Apr 26, 2012 19:38 |
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yellowcar posted:The Japanese aren't too thrilled about putting effort into DLC as a whole in general. Much less price them accordingly. Doesn't surprise me one bit. Tales of Graces charged like 4 or 5 bucks for a single costume for a single character. 
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| # ? Apr 26, 2012 19:44 |
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Momomo posted:Why wouldn't they? They're charing like five bucks for these things, they should show some effort. Because Seisen no Keifu's map would be a bitch and half because of the scale.
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| # ? Apr 26, 2012 19:44 |
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KoB posted:Tales of Graces charged like 4 or 5 bucks for a single costume for a single character. I figured that was just Namco being Namco.
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| # ? Apr 26, 2012 20:04 |
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Lotish posted:I figured that was just Namco being Namco. Capcom and NIS pulls this poo poo too.
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| # ? Apr 26, 2012 20:11 |
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TurnipFritter posted:Because Seisen no Keifu's map would be a bitch and half because of the scale. Except that's already in Leaf's dlc chapter? I also love how Alm's map is a desert map. As much as I love FE2, they could not be much more accurate when it comes to portraying FE2's content.
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| # ? Apr 26, 2012 20:23 |
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Hikarusa posted:Except that's already in Leaf's dlc chapter? Ahaha oh wow that just makes it all the more worse.
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| # ? Apr 26, 2012 20:30 |
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fivegears4reverse posted:I think what's worse is that it's not even original to the character. It's someone else's costume with Micaiah's head pasted onto it. Yeah, that too. It doesn't even evoke her old costume in any way. It's just something completely different.
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| # ? Apr 26, 2012 20:30 |
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Lotish posted:I figured that was just Namco being Namco. On the flip side Japan never gets anything close to a Steam sale!
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| # ? Apr 26, 2012 20:37 |
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yellowcar posted:The Japanese aren't too thrilled about putting effort into DLC as a whole in general. Much less price them accordingly. Doesn't surprise me one bit. That's moreso the attitude Japan has about things. Japanese audiences see DLC as a bonus, so you play the base game and pick up whatever DLC you want (and only what you want), whereas Western audiences are more concerned with "The complete package" and how bullshit it is that there's $50 of DLC for a $60 game.
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| # ? Apr 26, 2012 21:58 |
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Artix74 posted:That's moreso the attitude Japan has about things. Japanese audiences see DLC as a bonus, so you play the base game and pick up whatever DLC you want (and only what you want), whereas Western audiences are more concerned with "The complete package" and how bullshit it is that there's $50 of DLC for a $60 game. Couple this with Nintendo not even understand the concept, and this part is omitted. You apparently have to own previous DLC to buy the later chapters.
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| # ? Apr 26, 2012 22:13 |
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If someone hadn't told me that was supposed to be Micaiah, I'd have never have guessed really. Goddamn, I don't even like Micaiah as a character and that's still kind of offensive.
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| # ? Apr 27, 2012 02:44 |
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Captain Oblivious posted:If someone hadn't told me that was supposed to be Micaiah, I'd have never have guessed really. Goddamn, I don't even like Micaiah as a character and that's still kind of offensive. No seriously Micaiah loving sucked because she was a boring character who epitomized Mary Sues everywhere made even worse because you HAD to use her but this design is completely ridiculous and completely shits on her previous design. I mean, I'll still buy the goddamn game (if it comes to America) because it's loving Fire Emblem, but I Christ what's wrong with these people.
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| # ? Apr 27, 2012 02:57 |
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It looks like a screen cap from a hentai game.
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| # ? Apr 27, 2012 03:01 |
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Calaveron posted:I mean, I'll still buy the goddamn game (if it comes to America) because it's loving Fire Emblem, but I Christ what's wrong with these people. I kind of want to give Nintedo/Intsys (whoever actually makes these decisions) and assume that they just gave the artist free reign, and it turned out the artist was a big ol' perv, but then they still could have vetoed it and urgh.. it's just hard to defend stuff like this. On the bright side though, I'd be surprised if the art actually appears in game at all, it seems to be more of concept/ad then anything. Edit: They better not do this poo poo to Lyn though, I actually like her.
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| # ? Apr 27, 2012 03:06 |
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Has Lyn been confirmed as DLC? I skipped over a lot of the Awakening spoilers so I might have missed it
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| # ? Apr 27, 2012 03:15 |
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Not a chapter of her own, no, but she's a unit in Marth's chapter as an enemy. They seem to be doing all the lords, and we already have two versions of Marth, so I'd say Lyn getting a chapter is definitely possible.
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| # ? Apr 27, 2012 03:18 |
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Man I hope so. Lyn is my personal favorite from Blazing Sword. Eliwood was just kinda there and Hector while awesome just doesn't feel the same.
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| # ? Apr 27, 2012 03:29 |
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Erg, not to happy with that art even as someone who's not too fond of Micaiah. One good thing I now realize about her character was that at the very least FE10 didn't try turning her to brainless fan-service as much as I didn't like her powers or how she fit into the story. In other better (?) news, it seems like the pairing system in Awakening is starting to look like Pokemon breeding in regards to creating glorious murder monsters Awakening Eugenics So, it looks like Male MU can have a Manakete kid with Tiki, and that Mark can use the Divine Dragon Stone too. Also, Krom apparently always passes down Aether, so my decision on who to pair him with is going to solely be determined by whether I find the idea of a Pegasus Knight or Battle Monk with Aether more hilarious; might pair with Female MU for the possibility of kids with combinations of Aether, Magnificent Flame, Charisma, Royal Weapon, Rainbow Cry, and other glorious, glorious skills I've been playing Shadow Dragon recently and it is amazingly wonderful to be able to punish faceless drones getting bad levels with death and have the game reward you for it. Though it did end up in a situation where I had one to many characters and had to pick someone out of my main fighters to kill off, guess it'll just be part of the challenge.
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Turns out that Nintendo's not so sure about bringing Awakening overseas yet. I know someone said they're bringing it to Europe, but as the Operation Rainfall incident proved, that doesn't mean much.
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Behonkiss posted:Turns out that Nintendo's not so sure about bringing Awakening overseas yet. I know someone said they're bringing it to Europe, but as the Operation Rainfall incident proved, that doesn't mean much. Oh don't pull this poo poo again Nintendo, I swear to god.
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| # ? Apr 27, 2012 05:45 |
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I saw that, and honestly, I immediately thought of two things. One is that the phrasing is vague. They don't say they don't plan to release it overseas, they say they have not decided on a plan to release it overseas. You don't decide on a plan on how to do something if you're not going to do it. Second, companies say they have no plans to release a game fairly frequently, doesn't mean they always stick by it. Edit: Really, if they're going to announce a localization for Awakening, it'll be at E3, so trying to guess one way or another before then is kind of hopeless. Cake Attack fucked around with this message at Apr 27, 2012 around 06:10 |
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Probably trying to figure out what to do with the DLC.
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| # ? Apr 27, 2012 16:07 |
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Cake Attack posted:Second, companies say they have no plans to release a game fairly frequently, doesn't mean they always stick by it. Yeah, especially Nintendo. January 19 (or whenever it was): "There are no plans to release a new model of the Nintendo DS." January 20: Nintendo announces DS Lite.
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Brawl in the Family (A Good Webcomic) understands the deep strategies involved in playing Fire Emblem: E: AT least, this is how I always play. It mostly leads to many unnecessary deaths but, on the other hand, look at all those numbers going up Amppelix fucked around with this message at Apr 27, 2012 around 19:32 |
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Well, the nice thing about Seth is, he actually has decent growths for a pre-promote, so when the rest of your squad catches up to him, he can go back in the regular rotation. The other nice thing about Seth is he's just drat cool.  Seth.But mostly, yeah, I do that too. It's just so satisfying to take, say, the super-trainees and raise them up into unstoppable gods and goddesses of destruction! 
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I love how amazingly off-model he draws the characters. It's a great style, it just makes Eirika look like Lyn and Seth like Ike. And yeah, I tend to just keep Seth tucked away until the enemies catch up to him.
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| # ? Apr 27, 2012 22:25 |
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Man, Fire Emblem sure is Fire Emblem sometimes. PoR - just finished the desert map and got all the goodies there. But my Jill is turning out to be a bit of a stinker. She can't really dodge, her DEF isn't growing by much and she can barely hit anything, let alone double attack. She's about level 13 which might be low and I'm comparing against Laguz which are tough but so far really underwhelming compared to Jill of RD. Nephanee on the other hand is a goddess of destruction. Amazing DEF/RES, capped SPD before promotion and almost capped STR and SKL. Didn't even savescum her stats to do it. I am really starting to get into PoR regardless though. I absolutely love RD to death and it's nice to see how events there got started. Ike definitely is a different beast in this as Cake Attack said, but I'm close to his promotion so maybe he'll take a jump up in usefulness. His STR at 20 is currently 12 which worries me.
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Silver Falcon posted:Well, the nice thing about Seth is, he actually has decent growths for a pre-promote, so when the rest of your squad catches up to him, he can go back in the regular rotation. The other nice thing about Seth is he's just drat cool.
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Cake Attack posted:Micky I'm not sure what I'm looking at here but the word creepy comes up.
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Levantine posted:Man, Fire Emblem sure is Fire Emblem sometimes. PoR - just finished the desert map and got all the goodies there. But my Jill is turning out to be a bit of a stinker. She can't really dodge, her DEF isn't growing by much and she can barely hit anything, let alone double attack. She's about level 13 which might be low and I'm comparing against Laguz which are tough but so far really underwhelming compared to Jill of RD. Sometimes you just get RNG screwed, while her growths are good, they're also that perfect level of well-rounded that makes getting RNG screwed so easy. I'd check her stats against her averages before you give up on her though, she still is somewhat of a slow burn. As for Ike, 12 strength is a little low for level 20 as I recall, but far from terrible. Make sure to save an Occult scroll to give him Aether, it'll pretty much singlehandedly save his offense. "Momomo posted:Seth's growths are actually better than Franz's, so there's really no reason not to use him. There's also guys like Ross, Ewan and Amelia who have pretty terrible growths, with ten extra levels being their only advantage. I always feel like a Fire Emblem outcast because I can never manage to use the good Jeigans (Titania and Seth). By the time I start integrating them into my actual party, they're just flat out worse than my other units, and I can never bother to put the effort in to let their growths shine. I mean, I suppose I could start getting them EXP earlier, but then they'd be hogging it from my lower leveled characters  .
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| # ? Apr 27, 2012 22:40 |
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Momomo posted:Seth's growths are actually better than Franz's, so there's really no reason not to use him. There's also guys like Ross, Ewan and Amelia who have pretty terrible growths, with ten extra levels being their only advantage. How I pick units in FE: Do they look cool? They're on the team. Are they really weak right now? They're on the team (at least until they're not weak anymore at which point I can turn my attention to other shrimps) If team does not include a healer after this process, cram one in.
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My rule for using units: Are they a child? If yes, permanent bench, no acceptions. Cake Attack posted:I always feel like a Fire Emblem outcast because I can never manage to use the good Jeigans (Titania and Seth). By the time I start integrating them into my actual party, they're just flat out worse than my other units, and I can never bother to put the effort in to let their growths shine. I mean, I suppose I could start getting them EXP earlier, but then they'd be hogging it from my lower leveled characters Easiest way to do it: Never take them off the team and give them boss kills. Since the numbers favor higher leveled units more, they get the most out of the EXP from the bosses, so they'll still be getting levels while everyone else is still training.
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| # ? Apr 27, 2012 22:53 |
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Cake Attack posted:
Don't even loving joke about that 
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| # ? Apr 27, 2012 22:57 |
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Grozz Nuy posted:Don't even loving joke about that There's a fanart out there of Ike in Kingdom Hearts style outfit.
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| # ? Apr 27, 2012 23:17 |
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It's pretty hard to screw up Ike though. His design is pretty simple and the color contrast is really strong. So if you keep even a few of the design elements (also his ridic biceps from RD) he'll look pretty good. I guess you could put him in a belly shirt or something equally silly but I don't think anyone is really down for that.
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| # ? Apr 27, 2012 23:19 |
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Momomo posted:My rule for using units: I sure hope you didn't use that line of thought in Sacred Stones for characters like Amelia, Ewan and Ross. With a bit of babying they become probably the best units in the game. Especially Amelia if you make her a general, taking 0 damage from everything and attacking twice most of the time. Also Seth and Titania are the best Jeigans characters.
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I think my only rule for unit use in Fire Emblem games is that I almost always use the first character of any given class and prefer not to use any replacement characters. I also try to diversify as much as possible and won't use 2 Cavaliers or Myrmidions if I can help it. I get attached pretty quickly and like to solidify my team as early as possible. So I always take Mat over Legault, Mia over Zihark, Erk over Pent etc. Also, no Jeigans or Oifayes once I have enough of my 'main' team constructed to not field them.
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