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Dr Pepper
Feb 4, 2012

Don't like it? well...


Momomo posted:

Guess they're saving the best Whitewing for last. Hopefully we can get Nomura to draw someone at least.

But the best Whitewing was first.

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theshim
May 1, 2012

You think you can defeat ME, Ephraimcopter?!?

You couldn't even beat Assassincopter!!!


Momomo posted:

Guess they're saving the best Whitewing for last. Hopefully we can get Nomura to draw someone at least.
What why would you say this

Momomo
Dec 25, 2009



Dr Pepper posted:

But the best Whitewing was first.

Palla was a goddess of death while Est was still playing with dolls.

Also, I just want Nomura to draw someone, since it'd be really funny. Palla is probably the last chance we'll get.

Cake Attack
Mar 26, 2010

Partying. Partying never changes.

They might do Minerva too if they're doing the Whitewings, so we may have two more chances for a Nomura spectacle. (Not that there's actually any chance of that happening).

Also, who knows if the DLC will even be done after this, if they make money they'll keep putting them out.

e: So long as we're doing highly implausible dream artists, I want Kentaro Miura to do Hector. Yes, I know it'll never happen, but can you imagine .

Lotish
Dec 10, 2008

I pick up my Devil Axe...
...and DEVIL!


Cake Attack posted:

e: So long as we're doing highly implausible dream artists, I want Kentaro Miura to do Hector. Yes, I know it'll never happen, but can you imagine .

yeeeeeeeees.

Also, on that art, I'm boggled by those pauldrons. What are they even attached to?

Pfefferbao
Jun 1, 2011


Not commenting on the clothes or accessories, she looks somehow normal. Proportions seems right on first glance. She's not freaky-looking. The artist is one Shinnosuke Hino. He did the Thracia 776 manga. He also did the special character design for Chaos Wars and drew for a manga I never knew existed.

Cake Attack posted:

e: So long as we're doing highly implausible dream artists, I want Kentaro Miura to do Hector. Yes, I know it'll never happen, but can you imagine .

If that comes true we can dream , I don't expect that DLC to come out before 2020.

Lotish
Dec 10, 2008

I pick up my Devil Axe...
...and DEVIL!


Pfefferbao posted:

If that comes true we can dream , I don't expect that DLC to come out before 2020.

Jyrraeth
Aug 1, 2008

I love this dino
SOOOO MUCH


I'd take anime 'armor' any day over bizarre proportions or making the character look like they came from a hentai manga.

Her feet look smallish because of perspective, but not even close to being as bad a Lyn's.

Arbitrary Coin
Feb 17, 2012


Momomo posted:

Guess they're saving the best Whitewing for last. Hopefully we can get Nomura to draw someone at least.

Palla for life I remember when I saw she started off with 16 speed and a silver lance on chapter 3 in 12 if it was a glitch or crazy hard mode bonuses, but nope 16 speed with over 50% strength growth

Ug, well at least Catria's art isn't as bad as others

Momomo
Dec 25, 2009



It doesn't even matter that her speed growth is only 30% (of which 25 comes from her class, apparently Palla is slow as gently caress) because her base is so ridiculously high. Also Silver Lance. Silver Lance is very important. Her stats are only slightly better than they were in the last game, they just matter way more since she joins 10 chapters sooner when you really need some help. She's like the complete opposite of her old self.

Momomo fucked around with this message at Aug 30, 2012 around 21:44

Lotish
Dec 10, 2008

I pick up my Devil Axe...
...and DEVIL!


I got a question about TearRing Saga. I've gotten to one of the points where you can trade stuff between armies, but for some reason I can't get access to Holmes's inventory to give things to Runan's team. I did some grinding and Holmes has more than he needs, while Runan is really scraping by. Anyone know what I'm supposed to do? Even when I toggle to Holmes's army they only seem able to access Runan's miserable stash.

edit: Well poo poo, just as I post I finally find the right button combination that makes it work! Still not quite sure what I did, but I did it.

edit 2: poo poo, can't figure out how to do it again. Seems to be you have to go to items, toggle to Holmes's army, go into a characters inventory to change the window to items or weapons as needed, then press L1 to make the selected "character" Holmes's Item bank, because Runan's item bank always has to be on the left? gently caress.

Lotish fucked around with this message at Aug 30, 2012 around 22:19

Arbitrary Coin
Feb 17, 2012


Momomo posted:

It doesn't even matter that her speed growth is only 30% (of which 25 comes from her class, apparently Palla is slow as gently caress) because her base is so ridiculously high. Also Silver Lance. Silver Lance is very important. Her stats are only slightly better than they were in the last game, they just matter way more since she joins 10 chapters sooner when you really need some help. She's like the complete opposite of her old self.

Seriously, hell, if you have her toss her a speedwing and watch as she doubles everything from then until hampered by the speedcap in endgame.

And then you bust out the brave lance you forged with all of your money. Or the Gradivus. Or a forged dragonpike

Though I found her to be ridiculously good in 11 too? vv

Artix
Apr 26, 2010

Roy's To-Do List
  • Conquer the entire continent.
  • Stop a dragon uprising.
  • Marry Lilina, declare self King of Lycia.
  • Be declared a Nintendo All-Star before game is even released



Huh. Maybe I'm just desensitized because the bar is set so goddamn low, but this doesn't seem so bad? I mean, that thing attached to her javelin looks really dumb, but as far as I'm concerned this is acceptable. It's not like the absolute trainwreck that Micky was, for instance.

Cake Attack
Mar 26, 2010

Partying. Partying never changes.

Artix74 posted:

Huh. Maybe I'm just desensitized because the bar is set so goddamn low, but this doesn't seem so bad? I mean, that thing attached to her javelin looks really dumb, but as far as I'm concerned this is acceptable. It's not like the absolute trainwreck that Micky was, for instance.

It's the most technically proficient of the art for any women that isn't a terrible design. (Eirika and Cellica are well done in the objective artistic sense, but are also terrible designs).

If it weren't for Lyn's peg legs, she'd have both the best design and art (amongst the women, I'm not criticizing Drakengard Roy.)

Dr Pepper
Feb 4, 2012

Don't like it? well...


I think she actually has more armor then the average Pegasus Knight.

Artix
Apr 26, 2010

Roy's To-Do List
  • Conquer the entire continent.
  • Stop a dragon uprising.
  • Marry Lilina, declare self King of Lycia.
  • Be declared a Nintendo All-Star before game is even released


Dr Pepper posted:

I think she actually has more armor then the average Pegasus Knight.

Just pulling one at random to compare...



...Yeah. In fact, I'd say maybe outside of Elincia or Sigrun, she might have the most armor of any peg knight.

Lord Koth
Jan 8, 2012



Ehh, I think it might just be the poofiness of the shoulder/upper arm thingies throwing perspective off.

Most of the Pegasus Knights have had football type armor, with shoulder pads and upper torso armor. There's a few though that are lacking one of their shoulder plates for some reason or have really small armor period, and one (Tana ) who isn't wearing any. Honestly, with the exception of Tana, all the knights since 8 have been better armored, as have several before then too. This amusingly includes Catria's actual design in 11 and 12.

For example:



She's even wearing shoe and ankle armor.


Of course, the two in Awakening are by far the most heavily armored in the series.

Momomo
Dec 25, 2009



Apparently Catria's new design is pretty much the same as the generic Dark Pegasus. Overal I kind of like it, to be honest.

Arbitrary Coin posted:

Seriously, hell, if you have her toss her a speedwing and watch as she doubles everything from then until hampered by the speedcap in endgame.

And then you bust out the brave lance you forged with all of your money. Or the Gradivus. Or a forged dragonpike

Though I found her to be ridiculously good in 11 too? vv

She's good in 11, it's just that by the time you get her, you already have a team of asskickers. Just another for the pile.

Cake Attack posted:

It's the most technically proficient of the art for any women that isn't a terrible design. (Eirika and Cellica are well done in the objective artistic sense, but are also terrible designs).

If it weren't for Lyn's peg legs, she'd have both the best design and art (amongst the women, I'm not criticizing Drakengard Roy.)

I still think Lyn's one of the best drawn of all of them. The legs are weird, but I dunno, they look more stylized and less like they were just badly drawn. I like Drakengard Roy and all, but his head is completely flat.

(Also, I thought Eirika's design was good, it just didn't fit Eirika at all. A victim of context, really.)

Dr Pepper
Feb 4, 2012

Don't like it? well...


I hope that when they inevitably put Palla in with the next DLC I hope we get a Triangle Attack from the three sisters.

Sure, it's impractical as all heck but it's just so much fun to have a way to get a garenteed crit.

Plus it made raising Est a breeze! (Crit with an effective/devil weapon, gain a level with each fight)

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010
Bench press was, is and will never be a great chest builder.

Artix74 posted:

Just pulling one at random to compare...



...Yeah. In fact, I'd say maybe outside of Elincia or Sigrun, she might have the most armor of any peg knight.

Legs that go all he way down to the floor.

And then down another six inches.

Jyrraeth
Aug 1, 2008

I love this dino
SOOOO MUCH


She is standing on her tip-toes. There's only a little exaggeration on her legs, most of it is illusion from her position.

Though anime style tends to make legs really long, even when it's not a CLAMP character.

KDavisJr
Jul 17, 2010

A real avatar never dies, even when it's replaced!



...So the female DLC art's finally starting to get good?

Also I'm going to say the Whitewings are the best Peg knights of the series.

Azran
Sep 3, 2012

I am the real hero here.


Anyone here got experience with the Nightmare Editor? How easy would be to change character/classes names? I can't get my head around hex values (I think they are hex values, right? Oh dear, I suck at this).

Also, let's congratulate my current Micaiah, who hasn't gained a single point of speed through all her levels, beyond promotion bonuses.

Lotish
Dec 10, 2008

I pick up my Devil Axe...
...and DEVIL!


This post may give you the information you need.

Azran
Sep 3, 2012

I am the real hero here.


Thanks for the post! Somehow I missed it.

It's funny, though, since his screenshots seem to have normal values. I did exactly as the tutorial said, but Oswin appears as a LVL73, 65 base HP behemoth. I guess I'm going to tinker with it; maybe my version is the wrong one.

cap601
Feb 16, 2011


The new DLC art has been revealed.

Artix
Apr 26, 2010

Roy's To-Do List
  • Conquer the entire continent.
  • Stop a dragon uprising.
  • Marry Lilina, declare self King of Lycia.
  • Be declared a Nintendo All-Star before game is even released


Holy poo poo, maybe the perspective is hiding something, but that legitimately looks good. See, that wasn't so hard, was it IntSys?

Bloodly
Nov 3, 2008

Not as strong as you'd expect.

What is going on with her trousers, though?

KDavisJr
Jul 17, 2010

A real avatar never dies, even when it's replaced!


cap601 posted:

The new DLC art has been revealed.

I'm getting a Lamia Loveless vibe from this.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Are you mocking me?

Artix74 posted:

Holy poo poo, maybe the perspective is hiding something, but that legitimately looks good. See, that wasn't so hard, was it IntSys?

She does not appear to have a front on her pants.

Slate Action
Feb 13, 2012

My work here is done.

Artix74 posted:

Holy poo poo, maybe the perspective is hiding something, but that legitimately looks good. See, that wasn't so hard, was it IntSys?

I dunno man I'm still seeing face + upskirt + heels.

theshim
May 1, 2012

You think you can defeat ME, Ephraimcopter?!?

You couldn't even beat Assassincopter!!!


cap601 posted:

The new DLC art has been revealed.
Okay that would be perfectly fine if not for the fact that her shirt seems to end and there is a pretty drat significant gap between it and where her pants begin.

Like the entire crotch and half of the inner thighs.

Why.

(At least she has what appears to be serviceable armor!)

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

I miss being in the heat of battle like this!

On a purely executional note, I'm pretty sure legs don't bend that way.

Dr Pepper
Feb 4, 2012

Don't like it? well...


theshim posted:

(At least she has what appears to be serviceable armor!)

A first for a Pegasus Knight.

Now I need to know of the three can do the Triangle Attack.

Omniphile
Apr 5, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 4 days!


Knight on top, fanservice ninja on bottom.

Fungah!
Apr 30, 2011

I am a Kandyman of my word!


Artix74 posted:

Holy poo poo, maybe the perspective is hiding something, but that legitimately looks good. See, that wasn't so hard, was it IntSys?

Ignoring the gaping window that's the front of her pants, she's doing the boob/butt comic pose and her face looks derpy as hell. It's still pretty bad.

RuBisCO
May 1, 2009

Chilling, like a violin.

Yeah... her face looks kind of doofy and the skirt window... thing is kind of weird.
It's not the worst by far but... eehhhh.

On an another note, the 20 DLC/spotpass character limit is not nearly enough.

Momomo
Dec 25, 2009



Nomura would've done it way better. All well, at least I'll have the Green Goddess on my team.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!


She's a cowboy? Looks like low-riders to me.

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Momomo
Dec 25, 2009



I'm surprised nobody has mentioned her tiny feet. Really, if you cut off the bottom half of the picture, it would be pretty good.

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