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Irish Taxi Driver
Sep 12, 2004

We're just gonna open our tool palette and... get some entities... how about some nice happy trees? We'll put them near this barn. Give that cow some shade... There.

Yodzilla posted:

Crysis 2 was fun as hell and I've been a fan of everything else Crytek has ever done. Bring on da Crysis 3.


Also their engine just keeps getting nicer and nicer looking:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_Ex-_rmGmA&hd=1

I really wish Crytek's designers was as good as their engineers. I've never felt like Far Cry and Crysis were anything special design wise, but Crysis came out 5 years ago and no game has come close to it graphics wise. They're so far ahead of the pack its absurd.

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Monster w21 Faces
May 11, 2006

"What the fuck is that?"
"What the fuck is this?!"


I think their biggest weakness has been art direction all the way back to Far Cry. Great technical art sure, but no characters or flair.

Irish Taxi Driver
Sep 12, 2004

We're just gonna open our tool palette and... get some entities... how about some nice happy trees? We'll put them near this barn. Give that cow some shade... There.

Monster w21 Faces posted:

I think their biggest weakness has been art direction all the way back to Far Cry. Great technical art sure, but no characters or flair.

Yeah I'll agree with that too, I can't remember anything distinct about Far Cry's art direction except for the main character's Hawaiian shirt. Also it reminds me of when I got stuck in Crysis.

Its when you encounter (early game spoilers?) the NK troops in the suits. One laid prone in active camo in a random corner of the arena and I spent an hour trying to figure out why the game wasn't advancing. But then, the point of active camo was to stay hidden, so what was he doing?

Zzulu
May 15, 2009


Shimrra Jamaane posted:

I still don't understand how the relatively simple plot in Crysis 1 turned into...this.

They hired some sci-fi author for the new plot developments didn't they?

Skilleddk
Nov 15, 2008

I don't speak german but I can if you like


Irish Taxi Driver posted:

I really wish Crytek's designers was as good as their engineers. I've never felt like Far Cry and Crysis were anything special design wise, but Crysis came out 5 years ago and no game has come close to it graphics wise. They're so far ahead of the pack its absurd.

I wish we got another giant graphical leap like Crysis in 2007. I remember people drooling over the graphics in Medieval 2, Halo 3 or STALKER, and then Crysis comes out and shows everyone out the door.

Part of why Crysis 2 wasn't as well received was because there was no way they could live up to the hype, especially when designing parallel with consoles. It's still a great shooter with a very long campaign and superb gameplay.

edit: Are there any good tech videos of 4A engine (used in Metro 2033 / Last Light)? It's about the only game that for me surpassed Crysis graphically, though it is like comparing apples to oranges.

Skilleddk fucked around with this message at Apr 16, 2012 around 16:58

Perfect Potato
Mar 4, 2009


Hopefully the level design is better in this one. In Crysis 2 I ended up skipping 80% of the church level on my replay because restricted, small levels with several objectives close to one another, and an insanely useful stealth system do not mesh all that well. You could do something similar in Crysis 1 but at least there you'd usually have to be crawling on your rear end and hiding behind trees for half an hour, instead of the 3-5 minutes it took me in the second one. Most of the game gets around this issue by having what feels like forced encounters, but I'm not sure if that's really a desirable solution.

DatonKallandor
Aug 21, 2009


Shimrra Jamaane posted:

I still don't understand how the relatively simple plot in Crysis 1 turned into...this.

It didn't. They completely ignored Crysis 1 retconning it for Crysis 2. And they've done the same for Crysis 3.

Crysis 1 ending - We just woke up an alien menace who wants to turn the world to ice, fully charged their batteries with a nuke, defeated one of their giant flying battleships and are now going 3-man army on their asses! To be loving continued, hell yeah!

Crysis 2 - aliens now love tropics, aren't squids anymore, don't like ice, forgot they have energy absorbers and oh yeah, all of the awesome set-up from the end of Crysis 1? That poo poo never happened, you're in NEW YORK NOW FUCKA.

End of Crysis 2 - We just figured out there's alien bases all over the planet, we're gonna go globe-trotting and kicking some alien rear end!

Crysis 3 - Back in New York again, gotta reuse those Crysis 2 graphical assets.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010


I said come in! posted:

The creative art direction of Crysis 2 is what killed it. The whole thing was just very uninspired and boring looking, despite all of the really fancy special effects, and high-resolution textures thrown at everything. What was really annoying was that the city it takes place in was suppose to be New York City. Yet I don't think there was a single location actually modeled after the real place at all.

The whole fight in "Wall Street Church" was modeled around the church on Trinity Street (and was very close to the real thing, might I add, at least during the outdoors "blow poo poo up" part). I worked in the financial district and spent a lot of time in the areas that Crysis 2 was set in. Even if it wasn't 1:1, it definitely felt like the area in NYC it was supposed to be representing.

Zzulu
May 15, 2009


Domes over cities?

No wait, Nanodomes?

Are they trying to contain the aliens/infection or something? I thought the aliens were all over the planet at the end of Crysis 2. I don't geeeet it

Zzulu fucked around with this message at Apr 16, 2012 around 18:03

General Battuta
Feb 7, 2011


I said come in! posted:

The creative art direction of Crysis 2 is what killed it. The whole thing was just very uninspired and boring looking, despite all of the really fancy special effects, and high-resolution textures thrown at everything. What was really annoying was that the city it takes place in was suppose to be New York City. Yet I don't think there was a single location actually modeled after the real place at all.

You're wrong, there were a bunch of locations modeled on NYC, to the point that after playing the game I went to NYC for the first time and was like 'holy gently caress, I was fighting Ceph here, in this room. drat.'

The game is bad at making environments feel as big as they really are, but the fidelity is there.

I loved Crysis 2 and Crysis 1 for completely different reasons; they're both among my favorite games (though I had to do a bunch of AI modding on Crysis 2 to make it really satisying outside of the surprisingly excellent MP.) Hope Peter Watts and Richard Morgan are involved in this one too. The plot seems completely off the wall, I'm not really sure what to make of it.

General Battuta fucked around with this message at Apr 16, 2012 around 18:15

thetrin
May 4, 2009

I pull down the curtain, wantin to do me some dirtin aint nuthin better then jerkin my gerkin so I start with some flirtin

But my magic find aint working so I can't do no spurtin its got Wirt's feelins all hurtin, and his wooden leg stops all perking


Zzulu posted:

Domes over cities?

No wait, Nanodomes?

Are they trying to contain the aliens/infection or something? I thought the aliens were all over the planet at the end of Crysis 2. I don't geeeet it

The nanodomes are like, evil or something. They're trapping people or some poo poo. I dunno, I don't get it either.

the black husserl
Feb 25, 2005



This game might be fun but that is hands down the worst plot summary I've ever read.

Also isn't Prophet hella dead?

the black husserl
Feb 25, 2005



thetrin posted:

The nanodomes are like, evil or something. They're trapping people or some poo poo. I dunno, I don't get it either.

Yeah I'm not sure why you would build a dome over a city that was hit by a plague, invaded by aliens and subject to a full scale war.

Darth Freddy
Feb 6, 2007

An Emperor's slightest dislike is transmitted to those who serve him, and there it is amplified into rage.

the black husserl posted:

This game might be fun but that is hands down the worst plot summary I've ever read.

Also isn't Prophet hella dead?

I thought that at the end of 2 prophet had basically rewritten who ever was in the suit and they were prophet.

Tezzeract
Dec 25, 2007

How am I going to explain this to my wife?


Gravy Jones posted:

The emphasis on the bow make this look like Hawkeye: The Game.... and I'm down with that.

Also down with the Sandbox aspect of it as well. Sounds a bit like this is to Crysis 2 as Farcry 2 was to Farcry.

I'd rather have Saint's Row 3: Hawkeye.

the black husserl
Feb 25, 2005



Is this going to be the first game with a black protagonist?

edit: besides GTA

Dr.Oblivious
Jan 17, 2010


I hate how they portray CELL in these games, their reason for going after Prophet and doing a lot of things that they did in Crysis 2 could have been completely justifiable if they didn't make every single person in CELL a mustache twirling evil doer. Of course, who really cares they didn't take the high road, the game story is pretty beyond salvagable at this point.

Mr. Peepers
Mar 11, 2005

That noise?

...That's Coyote's laughter.


Re: plot. It's because military shooters have been in a race to the loving bottom for years now. It shouldn't come as a surprise that the story is insultingly moronic when, for quite a while now, the #1 goal of developers is to shovel in as much meaningless spectacle and player-fellating "LOOK HOW BAD rear end YOU ARE " set-piece moments into their games to paper over how utterly devoid of creativity and substance they are.

General Battuta
Feb 7, 2011


Mr. Peepers posted:

Re: plot. It's because military shooters have been in a race to the loving bottom for years now. It shouldn't come as a surprise that the story is insultingly moronic when, for quite a while now, the #1 goal of developers is to shovel in as much meaningless spectacle and player-fellating "LOOK HOW BAD rear end YOU ARE " set-piece moments into their games to paper over how utterly devoid of creativity and substance they are.

Crysis 2 actually had some genuinely interesting science fiction buried inside it, though the plot for the most part completely squandered it. The real battle in the game occurs between two adaptive, self-replicating systems - the nanosuit and the Ceph spore - and there are some intriguing themes about the role of the human component in a trans-human weapon system. It's a somewhat more bleak, naturalistic take on the alien invasion story than video games usually offer: instead of trying to beat us by shooting us with lasers, they're just going to eat our entire ecosystem alive with self-replicating nanomachines, and the struggle of guns and tanks is secondary except as a delivery vehicle.

Peter Watts, a marine biologist and capable SF writer, was an advisor on Crysis 2, which is probably where the criminally underused hard-SF material came from. Unfortunately, I just asked him if he was involved in Crysis 3 and he said he's heard nothing from CryTek so far.

e: Crysis 2 also had the opportunity for a BioShock-style twist, if they'd just paid off the hints that the player in the game isn't Alcatraz wearing the suit - you're actually the suit wearing Alcatraz.

General Battuta fucked around with this message at Apr 16, 2012 around 18:50

Zzulu
May 15, 2009


Prototype 2 also has a black protagonist

And we never saw the face of the protagonist in Crysis did we?

Der Waffle Mous
Nov 27, 2009

In the grim future, there is only commerce.


Mr. Peepers posted:

Re: plot. It's because military shooters have been in a race to the loving bottom for years now. It shouldn't come as a surprise that the story is insultingly moronic when, for quite a while now, the #1 goal of developers is to shovel in as much meaningless spectacle and player-fellating "LOOK HOW BAD rear end YOU ARE " set-piece moments into their games to paper over how utterly devoid of creativity and substance they are.

Oh man.

I remember this same quote after DOOM II came out.

Zzulu
May 15, 2009


Wait, is this a prequel? Didn't prophet die at the start of Crysis 2? Or is this the "prophet in the suit" thing with the merged minds/body clusterfuck they had going on near the end?

floor is lava
May 14, 2007

mmfffmf mfmf mff


Zzulu posted:

Prototype 2 also has a black protagonist

And we never saw the face of the protagonist in Crysis did we?

The spawn series on the snes.

Rap Game Forum Mod
Sep 11, 2011



Zzulu posted:

Wait, is this a prequel? Didn't prophet die at the start of Crysis 2? Or is this the "prophet in the suit" thing with the merged minds/body clusterfuck they had going on near the end?

Crysis Expanded Universe Alternate Timeline Reality

Fnoigy
Apr 9, 2007

I'm fine. Why do you ask?


I haven't played Crysis 2, but I really didn't get too worked up over the plot in the first game as I was too busy hiding in the bushes for 10 minutes waiting for the scouting party to pass by again so I could take out the next guy on the end without the others noticing.

Whooping Toff
Oct 21, 2010

*ahem*

I do beg your pardon.


the black husserl posted:

Is this going to be the first game with a black protagonist?

edit: besides GTA

I'm fairly sure 50 Cent: Blood on the Sand had a black protagonist too.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 9, 2007

Remind me to work out until I also am buff and have to keep a pillow in front of my okay I'll be honest this is like the 50th custom title I've done tonight and I'm just phoning it in now.

Whooping Toff posted:

I'm fairly sure 50 Cent: Blood on the Sand had a black protagonist too.

He asked about games, not immortalized works of art.

KrustyKlassic
Dec 27, 2005



Zzulu posted:

Wasn't Crysis 2 less visually impressive than Crysis 1? I doubt we'll see much of a graphical leap this time either

Yep. Any textures that they recycled from Crysis 1 had the resolution cut in half.

Category Fun!
Dec 2, 2008

im just trying to get you into bed


Whooping Toff posted:

I'm fairly sure 50 Cent: Blood on the Sand had a black protagonist too.

What about the first 50 Cent game?

Zzulu
May 15, 2009


What about the Michael Jackson moonwalker game

thetrin
May 4, 2009

I pull down the curtain, wantin to do me some dirtin aint nuthin better then jerkin my gerkin so I start with some flirtin

But my magic find aint working so I can't do no spurtin its got Wirt's feelins all hurtin, and his wooden leg stops all perking


Category Fun! posted:

What about the first 50 Cent game?

I believe the protagonist was a white man who believed himself to be 50 Cent.

Monster w21 Faces
May 11, 2006

"What the fuck is that?"
"What the fuck is this?!"


Zzulu posted:

What about the Michael Jackson moonwalker game

THAT'S A GREY AREA!

Hahaha I'm so funny.

Ah Pook
Aug 23, 2003



the black husserl posted:

Is this going to be the first game with a black protagonist?

edit: besides GTA

Prophet was black in Crysis.

thetrin
May 4, 2009

I pull down the curtain, wantin to do me some dirtin aint nuthin better then jerkin my gerkin so I start with some flirtin

But my magic find aint working so I can't do no spurtin its got Wirt's feelins all hurtin, and his wooden leg stops all perking


Ah Pook posted:

Prophet was black in Crysis.

He wasn't the protagonist, though, iirc.

OneEightHundred
Feb 28, 2008

Soon, we will be unstoppable!


the black husserl posted:

Is this going to be the first game with a black protagonist?

edit: besides GTA
No because Prototype 2 is coming out before it.

Setzer Gabbiani
Oct 13, 2004



Zzulu posted:

Wasn't Crysis 2 less visually impressive than Crysis 1? I doubt we'll see much of a graphical leap this time either

If you're on the fence about C2's visuals, give this mod a shot. If you want more than edge AA that does nothing and spent $800 on a video card, toss in an SSAA injector

the black husserl
Feb 25, 2005



Whooping Toff posted:

I'm fairly sure 50 Cent: Blood on the Sand had a black protagonist too.

Oh snap I also forgot about Deus Ex: You Picked The Black Avatar

OneEightHundred
Feb 28, 2008

Soon, we will be unstoppable!


There's also Bad Day L.A. but that's probably not helpful.

I can't tell if the guy from Sin is black or not.

Jim DiGriz
Apr 28, 2008

Maybe there is no room for guys like us.


General Battuta posted:

Peter Watts, a marine biologist and capable SF writer, was an advisor on Crysis 2, which is probably where the criminally underused hard-SF material came from. Unfortunately, I just asked him if he was involved in Crysis 3 and he said he's heard nothing from CryTek so far.

Didn't he "just" write the official novelization later?

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SimianNinja
Mar 11, 2007

"You've killed me!"
"Good."

Hey, let's not forget about :

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