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Fuzz
Jun 2, 2003

I'm an annoying drama queen fuckass with an online videogame grudge, but I still love Starfleet Dental

Samurai Sanders posted:

I did Roche's path first (I think based on bad vibes about Scoiatel left over from the first game), I just started chapter 2 on Iorveth's. So far it's like a crazy parallel world. Boy, this game did story splits like nothing else.

I did Roche's path on my first (and thus far only) playthrough... Christ I felt like an rear end in a top hat at the end of Chapter 1 when I nicely escorted Iorveth up to the shrine, the poo poo hits the fan and Geralt is just looking around confused, and then decides to just go all in, not cut Iorveth free, and then punch him in the face before running away. It was surprising simply because I had been playing pretty Neutral like in the first game (which I used my save from) and up to that point had been buddying up with both sides, mostly, though Geralt had had an undertone of disrespect for the Scoia'tel's methods and chose to distance himself from them as not buying into the whole "I'm a non-human, too, so clearly I should side with you guys" thing... still, up to then, he hadn't thrown in his lot for Temeria, either, and was still just a merc for hire because he had no love of kings or royalty (a theme I kept playing through Act 2-3 with) and he was mostly in it with Roche to clear his name. It really came together when you finally go to Vergen at the end of Act 2 and storm Iorveth's hideout and he was just so annoyed and pissed to see me, and had this totally defeatist attitude, making passive aggressive comments about how Geralt (and I, by proxy) hosed him over.

It was really surprising how much subtlety there was in this game to your dialogue choices and their repercussions sometimes, and how the tone could change drastically based on your choice. So good.

Fuzz fucked around with this message at Apr 23, 2012 around 21:22

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Fuzz
Jun 2, 2003

I'm an annoying drama queen fuckass with an online videogame grudge, but I still love Starfleet Dental

etalian posted:

And Roche is really Pro especially killing someone with a thrown two-hand weapon.

Roche is seriously one of the few genuinely likable characters in these games... Zoltan and Dandelion are two more. That was a large part of why I ended up siding with him my first playthrough, he was so much more likable than Iorveth.

Fuzz
Jun 2, 2003

I'm an annoying drama queen fuckass with an online videogame grudge, but I still love Starfleet Dental

My first playthrough I maxed out both Swords and Signs with like 2 or 3 points in Alchemy... granted, I only got Heliotrope basically right at the end before you fight the army of Nilfgaard guys while rescuing Triss, but still... it made that specific fight all the more ridiculously badass.

Fuzz
Jun 2, 2003

I'm an annoying drama queen fuckass with an online videogame grudge, but I still love Starfleet Dental

Lotish posted:

Didn't they say they buffed the 3rd act for the Enhanced Edition?

Yep. But apparently it's only an extra 2-3 hours worth of stuff.

Fuzz
Jun 2, 2003

I'm an annoying drama queen fuckass with an online videogame grudge, but I still love Starfleet Dental

I still think this game needed more actual Witchering in it like the first one. The best parts of the first one were the times you had to research a specific type of monster, finding out its weaknesses and habitat and how best to approach it (strong or fast style?), then gong out to collect herbs and poo poo for the proper potions/oils, then methodically tracking the thing down and taking it out. There were only like 6 monster contracts in this whole game, and most of them you could forgo the research and just roll around spamming Quen as you swang at the thing.

Really missed the boat on that one, I had really hoped the EE would add a few new contracts with maybe a few new monsters specifically from them, but oh well.

Fuzz
Jun 2, 2003

I'm an annoying drama queen fuckass with an online videogame grudge, but I still love Starfleet Dental

Total aside, but all the bitching about Bioware is a little excessive, considering that for Mass Effect they literally had to concoct an entire fleshed out universe instead of just using an existing IP. A universe that was interesting, engaging, and had some depth. That's not that easy to do, yet everyone is all "RAWR BIOWARE SUCKS." Kinda getting old.

That said, Dragon Age was boring and lovely.

Fuzz
Jun 2, 2003

I'm an annoying drama queen fuckass with an online videogame grudge, but I still love Starfleet Dental

OAquinas posted:

I think you're missing the point about the Bioware complaints: pretty sure most/all of the complainers would agree the universe and general story are well done and engaging. Where it stumbles or falls is in the game mechanics and ham-handed "choice" options you get....and of course that terrible ending. If their game worlds were flat and uninteresting they'd get wholly dismissed as crap subpar efforts and forgotten.

They also have the most directly comparable series to The Witcher in terms of genre, so using them as the bar/foil is inevitable and should come as no surprise to see it driven into the ground...mostly because the Witcher series compares that much more favorably.


Edit: ^The quest is totally optional, and you don't need to fight him if you do go see him. That said, for the Roche path you DO need to if you want to craft some of the endgame items (especially on Dark).

Well yeah, but my point was that everyone is "RAWR BIOWARE WRITING SUCKS!" but Bioware writing also wrote the whole drat setting... they prioritized the universe and thematic stuff over the nitty gritty story, which is their style and a questionable choice from a gaming perspective, but still... it's not like they make utterly horrible RPGs or something.

Regardless, dumb derail, let's talk more about how awesome Witcher is and hypothesize on how they might change gameplay or allow for branching plots in 3. I'm mostly worried that they'll go full bore on the whole personal storyline of Geralt and Yennefer and the Wild Hunt, which wouldn't be terrible but it really was the least compelling of all the plotlines in this game and felt the most tacked on and out of left field... it mostly had nothing to do with anything, and existed only to tie the games back to the books and make a weak bridge back to the first game. (the Foltest assassination was a better hook)

I really hope CDPR doesn't get so caught up in fanboying the books so hard that they alienate the rest of their playerbase and trim down on all the monster slaying and political intrigue, because while I love Geralt as a character, I really do not care to see him in anything resembling a love story.

Fuzz
Jun 2, 2003

I'm an annoying drama queen fuckass with an online videogame grudge, but I still love Starfleet Dental

Lasher posted:

Bit the bullet and picked it up. Cant wait to get stuck in. I've skipped the thread for fear of spoilers as well so forgive me if I come back asking any daft questions that may have been answered during the thread.

If you liked Alpha Protocol, then you clearly don't mind questionable gameplay in the name of awesome story, in which case I'd recommend playing Witcher 1 first, if only because it's an amazing game that's hard to go back to, gameplay-wise, after playing 2. Has aged really well and still looks and sounds amazing, though.

Fuzz
Jun 2, 2003

I'm an annoying drama queen fuckass with an online videogame grudge, but I still love Starfleet Dental

Samurai Sanders posted:

That would be a massive undertaking, a better goal would be a mod for witcher 1 that, for example, does away with button press timing, and toggling sword styles and assigns different buttons for each type of attack, and things like that to make it less irritating to play. In fact I'm surprised there's not one already.

It uses the Aurora engine (NWN1), and that's not really how that engine works. It's a wonder the combat was as involved as it was to begin with.

Fuzz
Jun 2, 2003

I'm an annoying drama queen fuckass with an online videogame grudge, but I still love Starfleet Dental

Play Roche's path and take a shot every time someone says whoreson. You'll be dead before the first Act is over.

Fuzz
Jun 2, 2003

I'm an annoying drama queen fuckass with an online videogame grudge, but I still love Starfleet Dental

PureRok posted:

They're talking about Witcher 1. Witcher 2 only has three acts.

Yeah, and there's still an active Witcher 1 thread, which is why I don't get why people are talking about it here... it's getting hard to keep track at a glance, particularly when people aren't prefacing which game they're talking about.

Fuzz
Jun 2, 2003

I'm an annoying drama queen fuckass with an online videogame grudge, but I still love Starfleet Dental

CDProjekt officially goes creeper:

http://impulsegamer.com/interviewtrissmerigold.html

Fuzz
Jun 2, 2003

I'm an annoying drama queen fuckass with an online videogame grudge, but I still love Starfleet Dental

Megazver posted:

For all the bitching about the gold filter, DE:HR has really knocked it out of the park with their take on cyberpunk visuals. Now I can't help but look at that mohawk and go "Oh, that's cute."

DX:HR wasn't cyberpunk, it was cyberrenaissance.

Fuzz
Jun 2, 2003

I'm an annoying drama queen fuckass with an online videogame grudge, but I still love Starfleet Dental

I just wish the disc version of this would let me activate it on Steam. Same for Witcher 1.

Fuzz
Jun 2, 2003

I'm an annoying drama queen fuckass with an online videogame grudge, but I still love Starfleet Dental

Alchemy always wind in every game.

Makes you wanna think twice about making fun of Kalkstein in the first game.

Fuzz
Jun 2, 2003

I'm an annoying drama queen fuckass with an online videogame grudge, but I still love Starfleet Dental

Coughing Hobo posted:

Everyone got a complementary GOG backup. http://www.gog.com/en/witcher2/backup/

And... according to that page, it's available for The Witcher as well! I'll update the OP to reflect that shortly.

Yeah but no complimentary Steam version.

I want Steam Achievements.

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Fuzz
Jun 2, 2003

I'm an annoying drama queen fuckass with an online videogame grudge, but I still love Starfleet Dental

Davincie posted:

None of the loot in the prologue ends up really mattering besides 1 item you don't even get there anyway. Feel free to skip ahead.

Also Gothic as an inspiration for W3

Unless you have a good Witcher 1 save and get that blue hoodie armor, which will basically last you through the end of the Swamp.


I should really go back and play the Scoiatel side of this game...

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