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T. Finninho
Aug 27, 2004

Likes: Katanas, Corea, Entertainment Centre, Couch, Yellow, Bald

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Saint Darwin posted:

GOD DAMMIT. I would have contributed the gently caress out of this.

That dude is a goon and made a CineD thread about it, it's pretty remarkable

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Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 34 hours!


Farbtoner posted:



Penny arcades and peep shows may be dead but a young entrepreneur wants to bring back "old time 3d burlesque" now that he's single-handedly saved the handlebar mustache.

I'm all for classic cultures and all that, but this guy is just retarded. Seems like his whole motivation for anything in his life is "old timey" and doesn't understand how do anything he's suggesting. He wants to convert an old camera to something different, and then somehow take 3D pictures with one lens. Apparently all you have to do is take a picture and then cut it in half and it's 3D.

Farbtoner
May 17, 2011

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T. Couchfucker posted:

That dude is a goon and made a CineD thread about it, it's pretty remarkable

Yup. Getting 4 times as much money as he had hoped was pretty great, Ben Solo is a good Goon.

http://vimeo.com/35354214

Rohaq
Aug 11, 2006


Zellus posted:

So is he trying to look like Cortana from Halo, or what? Is that the gimmick?


Anyway, here's a kickstarter for Four Tanks and a Healer, a flash cartoon that the creator describes as "think of Family Guy or the Simpsons if it took place inside of World of Warcraft." The guy is asking for $45,000 so he can make a season out of it, and possibly a feature length movie.

That page posted:

"Four Tanks and a Healer" is a funny animated series
I stopped at 'funny'. Describing something as a comedy is fine when that's its intent. When you specifically have to reassure people that your programme is 'funny' in the first line, then it probably isn't.

Cthulu Carl
Apr 16, 2006

Your words are as empty as your cereal bowl. I am the Vanguard of your Hanzo steel's destruction. This exchange is over...



He only wanted $500

He got $77,271

Elysiume
Aug 13, 2009



Cthulu Carl posted:

He only wanted $500

He got $77,271


It's not really a matter of "wanted," it's more along the lines of "the project would have worked with $500; he got $77,271." I'm guessing he needed $500 to make it worth doing, and it just sort of scaled linearly from there so he could just keep going.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 34 hours!


Can you really call that a sculpture? It's printed. Sure he had to create it in some program, but he can literally just print these out whenever he wants.

TunaSpleen
Jan 27, 2007

How do I say, "You're the grossest thing ever" without offending you?


Think of it like Rich Burlew's Order of the Stick book reprint Kickstarter. Most of us who contributed did so because we either needed one or more of the out-of-print books (and thus the donation was the preorder to be shipped upon printing) or just really wanted some more dorky collectible swag.

The skulls are along the same idea. Even if they're easily mass produced, they look cool and they weren't expensive to order. And they're probably a sweet gift for the hipster, goth, otherkin, or Dia de los Muertos fan in your life.

Alteisen
Jun 4, 2007



All these lovely kickstarters don't surprise me that much.

The fact that every single one of them has backers, that surprises me, regardless if its a dollar or 5 dollar, someone backed all this poo poo, the gently caress is going.

Decrepus
May 21, 2008

All that you have found is your inevitable punishment.

Cojawfee posted:

Can you really call that a sculpture? It's printed. Sure he had to create it in some program, but he can literally just print these out whenever he wants.

Artists sell prints all the time.

Ringo Star Get
Sep 18, 2006

JUST FUCKING TAKE OFF ALREADY, SHIT


I just don't get why the money keeps coming in when it reaches its limit. Kind of sets itself up for some more criticism if it isn't that good of a product, right?

Saint Darwin
Jun 19, 2011

The cat problem in the park is Malthusian in scope.

Ringo Star Get posted:

I just don't get why the money keeps coming in when it reaches its limit. Kind of sets itself up for some more criticism if it isn't that good of a product, right?

It's because a lot of donation levels give you a copy of whatever it is at a reduced price.

abigserve
Sep 13, 2009

It was not scary. It was just...abnormal.


What exactly happens to all the money if a project becomes funded and then promptly vanishes?

Or a better example, if I gave 100 bucks to black mesa source back in 2004, would I be able to get that money back now that it's 2012 and there's still no game?

Jimbone Tallshanks
Dec 16, 2005
You can't pull rank on murder.

abigserve posted:

What exactly happens to all the money if a project becomes funded and then promptly vanishes?

This is why it's a donation, not an investment.

Snoop Rocket
Aug 6, 2011



E: Beaten

Do those guys realize that just because they're using Valve resources, they don't have to actually act like Valve in the process?

Cross_
Aug 22, 2008


If you've got an MBA and are looking for a business idea: escrow/insurance services for kickstarter projects.

You take a 30% cut of the funded amount and if anything goes wrong with the project the backers will get a fraction of their initial investment back. All that's needed is a cool seal/logo so that people know they can "fund with confidence".

JazzFlight
Apr 29, 2006

Oooooooooooh!



Cojawfee posted:

Can you really call that a sculpture? It's printed. Sure he had to create it in some program, but he can literally just print these out whenever he wants.
That just reminds me of a bit on Tim & Eric where they sell little tiger sculptures that Tim can make out of thin air.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKvCHDikwX8
Maybe this artist guy has the same idea.
It doesn't work out well, though:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pN6Z...&feature=relmfu

JazzFlight fucked around with this message at Apr 27, 2012 around 01:24

Saint Darwin
Jun 19, 2011

The cat problem in the park is Malthusian in scope.

JazzFlight posted:

That just reminds me of a bit on Tim & Eric where they sell little tiger sculptures that Tim can make out of thin air.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKvCHDikwX8
Maybe this artist guy has the same idea.
It doesn't work out well, though:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pN6Z...&feature=relmfu

This guy's making more than one hundo a day though

Soul Reaver
Mar 8, 2009


octoroon posted:

Anyone who associates "high quality indie" with "one man team" is making a serious miscalculation. One-man teams are almost universally destined for failure on any sort of scale larger than a two-week prototype. That requires either a ton of self-motivation or a ton of savantism, and either way, the finished product is probably going to suffer from the myopic skillset that went into it.

I'm not sure one man teams are the reason indie projects fail. I spent 6 years completing a Warcraft III mod by myself and the general consensus is that it's pretty good

You'll find just as many failed/abandoned projects that had a whole team working on it. In many cases they fail BECAUSE they had a whole team working it. Some 'vital member' drops out, everyone loses interest, and the whole thing just falls to the wayside.

It doesn't matter what the project is or how many people are working on it, it always requires motivation and dedication from every core member involved. It looks to me like a funadmental problem with Kickstarter is that it provides lazy people with a lazy way of trying to get funding for a project. If you're taking the lazy way, then you probably don't have the motivation/dedication required in the first place.

The ease in which you can ask for funding is also why it's so awash with so many hilariously half-baked ideas. Though I like what Kickstarter can do for genuinely good ideas, I'm worried these stupid ideas are going to discredit it.

Why some people still pledge money to those half-baked ideas I'll never know.

dee eight
Dec 18, 2002

MONTANA
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Soul Reaver posted:

The ease in which you can ask for funding is also why it's so awash with so many hilariously half-baked ideas. Though I like what Kickstarter can do for genuinely good ideas, I'm worried these stupid ideas are going to discredit it.

Why some people still pledge money to those half-baked ideas I'll never know.

Sturgeon's Law applies to people's perception of ideas as well as to the ideas themselves?

When Troll Bridge happens, then at least Kickstarter will have done a good thing.

Aintain
Apr 6, 2007

Shit, really? They don't?! :,(


Where is the Zybourne Clock guy? Kickstarter seems like something he would be interested in ..

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

Some missions, you just can't get rid of a bomb

Aintain posted:

Where is the Zybourne Clock guy? Kickstarter seems like something he would be interested in ..

I would unironically donate to a Zybourne Clock kickstarter.

Talks To Cats
Jan 7, 2012
I hate my job and I hate you, but I'll put up with my job because it makes me a shit-ton of money. I can tell you how to do the same...but you won't listen.

I support charity:water with my erotica charity bundles. Water changes everything.


Decrepus posted:

Artists sell prints all the time.
I'd love to argue this with you, but I really can't.

I have a burning desire to someday make a retro-styled videogame but I know it'll take a goddamn lot of money and effort of my own to get it started and into a state where I can actually ask other people for funding. So maybe in 15 years I can fulfill my childhood dreams! The difference between me and 99% of people using kickstarter now is they don't see the need to wait to ask people to fund their retarded dreams.

Mywhatacleanturtle
Jul 23, 2006



I honestly can't believe nobody's brought up Ryan Sohmer (creator of the tasteful and gutbustingly HEE-LARIOUS webcomic sensation Least I Could Do) using Kickstarter to raise $75,000 dollars for a pilot episode of "Least I Could Do: The Animated Series", and then immediately spending every last cent opening a comic book store instead.

Saint Darwin
Jun 19, 2011

The cat problem in the park is Malthusian in scope.

Mywhatacleanturtle posted:

I honestly can't believe nobody's brought up Ryan Sohmer (creator of the tasteful and gutbustingly HEE-LARIOUS webcomic sensation Least I Could Do) using Kickstarter to raise $75,000 dollars for a pilot episode of "Least I Could Do: The Animated Series", and then immediately spending every last cent opening a comic book store instead.



Well I mean, how do we know he spent the money that way?

I guess that's part of the problem with Kickstarter. You don't know if they blew it on hookers and blow, or are legitimately having problems dealing with their Chinese supplier.

octoroon
May 8, 2010


Saint Darwin posted:

Well I mean, how do we know he spent the money that way?

I guess that's part of the problem with Kickstarter. You don't know if they blew it on hookers and blow, or are legitimately having problems dealing with their Chinese supplier.

Yeah, that sort of thing is a serious problem with Kickstarter. The cool thing is, though, the community could rise up to address some of those concerns with the whole concept of "badges" for Kickstarters, like the "Kick it forwards" thing.

In fact, I would be surprised if Kickstarter didn't integrate some sort of official "pledge" system into the site itself before too long. It would be nice to have a "we will release a summary of what we are spending your money on" pledge.

abigserve
Sep 13, 2009

It was not scary. It was just...abnormal.


Saint Darwin posted:

Well I mean, how do we know he spent the money that way?

I guess that's part of the problem with Kickstarter. You don't know if they blew it on hookers and blow, or are legitimately having problems dealing with their Chinese supplier.

This is what I was getting at with my post and it's honestly a huge loving problem. Kickstarter seems to be a way for people to easily and untraceably fleece/scam gullible people out of their money.

Cthulu Carl
Apr 16, 2006

Your words are as empty as your cereal bowl. I am the Vanguard of your Hanzo steel's destruction. This exchange is over...


octoroon posted:

Yeah, that sort of thing is a serious problem with Kickstarter. The cool thing is, though, the community could rise up to address some of those concerns with the whole concept of "badges" for Kickstarters, like the "Kick it forwards" thing.

In fact, I would be surprised if Kickstarter didn't integrate some sort of official "pledge" system into the site itself before too long. It would be nice to have a "we will release a summary of what we are spending your money on" pledge.

I've actually seen a few where start with "$5 e-mail updates as the project progresses" so some of them are apparently trying to have some kind of transparency.

At the same time it's kind of funny because they're treating a newsletter or blog as some 'EXCLUSIVE!"

Zelder
Jan 4, 2012

They still call it the White House
But that's a temporary condition, too.


Cthulu Carl posted:

He only wanted $500

He got $77,271



Yo, of all the kickstarters to get mad at, this isn't one of them

The guy had an idea, has done it before, can show results, and asked for a perfectly reasonable amount of money. This is kickstarter done right, if I understand correctly.

Industrial
May 31, 2001

Everyone here wishes I would ragequit my life

Farbtoner posted:






Haha I knew this dude looked familiar. He works at Art of Shaving in the Mall of America, I just saw him like 2 days ago.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 34 hours!


Industrial posted:

Haha I knew this dude looked familiar. He works at Art of Shaving in the Mall of America, I just saw him like 2 days ago.

Makes sense that a douchey looking guy would work at a douchey, overpriced shaving store.

Saint Darwin
Jun 19, 2011

The cat problem in the park is Malthusian in scope.

Cojawfee posted:

Makes sense that a douchey looking guy would work at a douchey, overpriced shaving store.

Yes indeed he is a terrible person because he enjoys things I do not personally enjoy

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 34 hours!


Saint Darwin posted:

Yes indeed he is a bad person because he likes things I do not personally like

I like shaving. But he dresses like a douche, and works in a store that rips people off.

kazmeyer
Jul 26, 2001

'Cause we're the good guys.



Mywhatacleanturtle posted:

I honestly can't believe nobody's brought up Ryan Sohmer (creator of the tasteful and gutbustingly HEE-LARIOUS webcomic sensation Least I Could Do) using Kickstarter to raise $75,000 dollars for a pilot episode of "Least I Could Do: The Animated Series", and then immediately spending every last cent opening a comic book store instead.



Well, if it's any consolation, opening a comic book store may be the absolute stupidest business idea you could possibly have right now, so if you have any way of keeping tabs you'll be able to watch him crash and burn in slow motion over the next three years or so.

I'm so going to open a kickstarter to fund my pet project, which is the documentation and preservation of the Ed Lover Dance for future generations.

Col. Justice
Apr 14, 2007

TIME TO DIE




This is a mask with small red lights that go off at random while you sleep.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects...ef=discover_pop

$286,693......$286,693?!?!?!

Kenshin
Jan 10, 2007


Col. Justice posted:

This is a mask with small red lights that go off at random while you sleep.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects...ef=discover_pop

$286,693......$286,693?!?!?!
I honestly don't see what's awful about this. Who knows if it actually works, but the few times I've had lucid dreams they were amazing, so I can see why people would want to get something that might increase their chances/ability to do it.



poo poo, now I'm wondering if I want to put $80 toward it.

Kenshin fucked around with this message at Apr 27, 2012 around 04:56

octoroon
May 8, 2010


Col. Justice posted:

This is a mask with small red lights that go off at random while you sleep.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects...ef=discover_pop

$286,693......$286,693?!?!?!

Say what you will about the product -- maybe it's quackery. Probably. But they have an amazing pitch.

Saint Darwin
Jun 19, 2011

The cat problem in the park is Malthusian in scope.

Kenshin posted:

I honestly don't see what's awful about this. Who knows if it actually works, but the few times I've had lucid dreams they were amazing, so I can see why people would want this.

Because I really doubt it actually works?

Kenshin
Jan 10, 2007


Saint Darwin posted:

Because I really doubt it actually works?
Eh, that's not the point.

The people making it have an amazing pitch, and a whole lot of people want to give it a try.

It's only unethical if the people making it know that it doesn't work.

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Col. Justice
Apr 14, 2007

TIME TO DIE




Kenshin posted:

I honestly don't see what's awful about this. Who knows if it actually works, but the few times I've had lucid dreams they were amazing, so I can see why people would want this.


I'm not saying that it's a terrible idea. But that's still a poo poo load of money for perfect strangers to give to a sleeping mask with lights in it.

It'll probably turn out that it works great and I'll buy one in shame.

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